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Tue Jan-20-04 11:27 AM
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| 51. To induce YOU to select him? Ah, there's the issue |
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The key is in your post: "Kerry is a Democrat's Democrat." The party needs to pull in Independents and even some (sorry!) Republicans. The question is whether Kerry can do THAT better than Clark and I think the jury is still out on that. We'll have to see how the rest of the primary season goes.
Staying firmly on the fence, here; just trying to see it all pragmatically.
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Jan-20-04 10:25 AM |
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clark is from the south, kerry is from massachusettes |
JI7 |
Jan-20-04 10:28 AM |
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That's certainly part of it... |
returnable |
Jan-20-04 10:36 AM |
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My sentiments exactly, it's a WIN WIN for me |
familydoctor |
Jan-20-04 11:56 AM |
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Conn Game |
panzerfaust |
Jan-20-04 10:47 AM |
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It's already been mentioned but I'll say it again - the south |
wyldwolf |
Jan-20-04 01:53 PM |
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As a life long Dem myself... |
Democrats unite |
Jan-20-04 10:30 AM |
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Because Clark is from the South |
adamrsilva |
Jan-20-04 10:32 AM |
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Bingo! |
XanthaS |
Jan-20-04 10:47 AM |
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An "elitist" who won the votes of working class folks in Mass and Iowa... |
flpoljunkie |
Jan-20-04 01:50 PM |
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Absolutely. |
boloboffin |
Jan-20-04 02:01 PM |
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It that enough reason to be President? Zell Miller is from the South. |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Jan-20-04 12:24 PM |
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But Zell doesn't match up with Kerry on democratic issues and ideals |
wyldwolf |
Jan-20-04 02:03 PM |
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Yes, he does! |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-20-04 03:23 PM |
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I suppose you could argue |
Wetzelbill |
Jan-20-04 10:33 AM |
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good points |
mmonk |
Jan-20-04 10:44 AM |
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Just possibly, some people can't forgive Kerry for IWR. |
BurtWorm |
Jan-20-04 10:34 AM |
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Forgiveness is only possible when there is repentance and penance |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-20-04 12:18 PM |
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Kerry's voting record |
Freddie Stubbs |
Jan-20-04 10:36 AM |
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And Kerry can take the TRUTH about their actions and make them look worse. |
blm |
Jan-20-04 10:41 AM |
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Problem is he isn't running against Ronald Reagan Ollie North |
Freddie Stubbs |
Jan-20-04 01:38 PM |
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Ha. BCCI snagged Shrub's Harken deal and deals with Bin Laden. |
blm |
Jan-20-04 01:45 PM |
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But what specificlly did Bush do? |
Freddie Stubbs |
Jan-20-04 02:03 PM |
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BCCI characters link to 9-11 and Iraq events. |
blm |
Jan-20-04 02:57 PM |
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But what exactly does this have to do with Bush? |
Freddie Stubbs |
Jan-20-04 03:36 PM |
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And we must be ready |
cheryl27 |
Jan-20-04 03:21 PM |
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That is why Kerry/Clark has been my dream ticket for many moons. |
Kerryfan |
Jan-20-04 10:37 AM |
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Your dream ticket.... |
LeinesRed |
Jan-20-04 11:57 AM |
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I love anything |
cheryl27 |
Jan-20-04 03:20 PM |
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I've been thinking Clark/Kerry |
dogman |
Jan-20-04 12:12 PM |
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Here's one. |
in_cog_ni_to |
Jan-20-04 10:38 AM |
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Except Clark is wrong. He may have forgotten that |
blm |
Jan-20-04 10:46 AM |
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I don't challenge Kerry's credentials |
Jerseycoa |
Jan-20-04 02:05 PM |
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Good thing Kerry wrote that terrorism alert book in 1997, The New War. |
blm |
Jan-20-04 03:22 PM |
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As a Dean supporter, I agree with you |
Don Claybrook |
Jan-20-04 10:38 AM |
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Kerry was never fired by Clinton, Cohen & Shelton |
EllieDem |
Jan-20-04 10:41 AM |
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Nor was Clark. |
in_cog_ni_to |
Jan-20-04 10:45 AM |
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We'll be glad for all three |
mmonk |
Jan-20-04 10:47 AM |
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Clark was NOT fired by Clinton: |
phiddle |
Jan-20-04 10:53 AM |
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How nice for him. Neither was Clark |
mikehiggins |
Jan-20-04 11:44 AM |
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Enough said? |
Jerseycoa |
Jan-20-04 02:10 PM |
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Jan-20-04 10:56 AM |
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Better experience internationally. |
quaker bill |
Jan-20-04 10:40 AM |
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Clarks Tax Plan... |
thebgrkng |
Jan-20-04 10:40 AM |
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Repubs will say |
adamrsilva |
Jan-20-04 10:51 AM |
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That's what they'll say... |
returnable |
Jan-20-04 10:54 AM |
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Then he hits them back harder... |
thebgrkng |
Jan-20-04 10:56 AM |
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They can't |
Wife_of_a_Wes_Freak |
Jan-20-04 10:57 AM |
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That would be suicide |
thalerd |
Jan-20-04 03:12 PM |
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General Clark talks TO people... |
GainesT1958 |
Jan-20-04 10:46 AM |
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Here's one. Clark didn't vote for the War. |
bandera |
Jan-20-04 10:46 AM |
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A New Face... |
thebgrkng |
Jan-20-04 10:47 AM |
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REMOVED (nt) |
thebgrkng |
Jan-20-04 10:54 AM |
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Here's one. |
hilzoy |
Jan-20-04 10:49 AM |
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Hugh Shelton is supporting Kerry over a |
EllieDem |
Jan-20-04 10:54 AM |
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And Harkin supported Dean... |
returnable |
Jan-20-04 10:55 AM |
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exactly |
mmonk |
Jan-20-04 10:56 AM |
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Yes, enought said. |
dralston |
Jan-20-04 11:02 AM |
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LOL! |
in_cog_ni_to |
Jan-20-04 11:04 AM |
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I thought Shelton was supporting Edwards |
mikehiggins |
Jan-20-04 11:49 AM |
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Oh, don't be so mean |
Jerseycoa |
Jan-20-04 02:19 PM |
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That's not "enough said" at all... |
familydoctor |
Jan-20-04 12:02 PM |
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I didn't know that |
Jerseycoa |
Jan-20-04 02:16 PM |
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Isn't Shelton a hired adviser for Edwards? |
in_cog_ni_to |
Jan-20-04 03:43 PM |
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Electoral math is another reason |
adamrsilva |
Jan-20-04 10:52 AM |
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I fear that some Gore states may slip away this time |
Ridley Park 704 |
Jan-20-04 10:59 AM |
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me neither |
goodhue |
Jan-20-04 10:54 AM |
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I disagree |
dralston |
Jan-20-04 11:04 AM |
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well |
goodhue |
Jan-20-04 11:11 AM |
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A mixed background |
thebgrkng |
Jan-20-04 10:57 AM |
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Clark's personality will play better with indy voters |
BeyondGeography |
Jan-20-04 11:02 AM |
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Well, you don't have to... |
TreasonousBastard |
Jan-20-04 11:03 AM |
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The Hispanic Vote |
thebgrkng |
Jan-20-04 11:07 AM |
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Great point |
incapsulated |
Jan-20-04 11:10 AM |
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i dont know |
KLA2004 |
Jan-20-04 11:12 AM |
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Clark has the Gravitas w/o the pompusness |
John_H |
Jan-20-04 11:19 AM |
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front page picture Kerry with Ted Kennedy in background |
bobbieinok |
Jan-20-04 11:21 AM |
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For me? |
copithorne |
Jan-20-04 11:31 AM |
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Kerry has ten times the poltical record of Clark... |
edzontar |
Jan-20-04 11:27 AM |
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To induce YOU to select him? Ah, there's the issue |
Maeve |
Jan-20-04 11:27 AM |
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Dropping back to Kissinger |
mikehiggins |
Jan-20-04 11:34 AM |
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Lots of good reasons here... to which I'd add |
bain_sidhe |
Jan-20-04 11:46 AM |
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The "Washington outsider" has broad appeal, and Clark brings this... |
rezmutt |
Jan-20-04 12:02 PM |
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Outsider appeal |
Jerseycoa |
Jan-20-04 02:29 PM |
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That"insider" exposed more govt, corruption than any other lawmaker |
blm |
Jan-20-04 03:00 PM |
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Here's what I can think of off the top of my head |
familydoctor |
Jan-20-04 12:06 PM |
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Clark did not vote for IWR or for PATRIOT Act, and he is not a Bonesman |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-20-04 12:14 PM |
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Clark is less polarizing |
windansea |
Jan-20-04 12:35 PM |
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Across the board appeal? |
Jim4Wes |
Jan-20-04 01:41 PM |
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So Kerry won with 9.5% of the vote of all Iowa Democrats? |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-20-04 02:14 PM |
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And Dean didn't even get half as much |
sangha |
Jan-20-04 02:16 PM |
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Which proves that Iowa caucus is not representative of Democrats |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-20-04 03:26 PM |
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Neither can I -nt- |
Hoppin_Mad |
Jan-20-04 02:13 PM |
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A lot of people don't want a Washington insider. Also - he cannot get the |
gore-is-my-president |
Jan-20-04 03:19 PM |
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Me, too. Clark doesn't have |
cheryl27 |
Jan-20-04 03:19 PM |
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He does have experience |
thalerd |
Jan-20-04 03:34 PM |
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Kerry's domestic experience gave us the PATRIOT Act |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-20-04 03:40 PM |
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The "Elitist" thing will be a major hurdle |
XanthaS |
Jan-20-04 03:45 PM |
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You have a liberal co - worker who repeats wing - nut name calling ? |
Kerryfan |
Jan-20-04 09:28 PM |
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Yes, I've pointed out to her many times that the whole Kerry... |
XanthaS |
Jan-20-04 10:42 PM |
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Did anyone mention the gun issue? |
Leilani |
Jan-20-04 10:05 PM |
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Because Kerry is 2004's Mondale |
DrBB |
Jan-20-04 10:09 PM |
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I would take Clark over Kerry for a number of reasons, but... |
HuckleB |
Jan-20-04 10:15 PM |
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I personally consider Clark a better speaker, for starters. |
SadEagle |
Jan-20-04 10:09 PM |
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I like Clark's tax proposal over Kerry's plan. And... |
HuckleB |
Jan-20-04 10:12 PM |
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Hey PeteCA, Brokaw read a letter to Kerry that stated it well |
Loren645 |
Jan-20-04 10:39 PM |
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