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Mon Dec-20-04 06:10 AM
Response to Reply #28 |
| 34. Suckered into or misguided. |
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All of the Dems that voted for the Iraq resolution were either duped or they had their heads up their ass. After Kerry said that he would still vote for it after knowing that there were no WMDs it was over for him in my view. All the Dems that stuck to that betrayed the progressives in the party and took the core Dems for granted due to ABB.
It's bullshit to say that liberals &/or leftists are anti-war. Most are anti-foolish wars that lead to disaster. The U.S. created the anti-American blast around the world by supporting any right wing dick that said he/she was anti-commie. The USSSR folded due to their foolish defense spending which the U.S goaded them into. The ME countries for the most part oppress their masses and the U.S aides that. The people there know it. The Iraq invasion threw gasoline onto their fire.
The mantra that the Dems need to move more right is a fool's song.
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| -We need a "New Liberalism" that fights America's enemies decisively |
Forever Free |
Dec-19-04 02:57 AM |
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Have conservatives "articulated with passion" THEIR vision... |
Placebo |
Dec-19-04 03:01 AM |
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Yeah - "Peter Beinart " the neo-con in sheep clothing |
mazzarro |
Dec-19-04 03:01 AM |
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I agree... |
itzamirakul |
Dec-19-04 04:10 AM |
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Peter Beinart is a pro-war whore |
Rockerdem |
Dec-20-04 11:31 PM |
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Fourth Generation warfare |
sandnsea |
Dec-19-04 03:32 AM |
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Since when has the US ever been interested in fighting totalitarian Islam? |
eridani |
Dec-19-04 05:09 AM |
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There are so many flawed assumptions |
kenzee13 |
Dec-19-04 05:19 AM |
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Borrowed rant |
gottaB |
Dec-19-04 06:07 AM |
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'The Ref' |
Placebo |
Dec-19-04 07:57 PM |
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all that hyping of muscular, hard guntoting made me want to scream |
gottaB |
Dec-20-04 05:58 AM |
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It's both, one of my hubby's and my favorite movies. |
blondeatlast |
Dec-20-04 06:38 AM |
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peter beinart = fraud |
xchrom |
Dec-19-04 06:18 AM |
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Wow. What breathtaking propaganda! |
Q |
Dec-19-04 06:24 AM |
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Have you read any of Beinart's work? He's a loathesome, Zell-like |
blondeatlast |
Dec-20-04 06:41 AM |
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You are disgustingly misrepresenting real liberals. |
BullGooseLoony |
Dec-19-04 06:29 AM |
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I'll take your point a bit further |
mandyky |
Dec-19-04 06:52 AM |
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blatant rip-off |
imsocoolerthanyou |
Dec-19-04 06:54 AM |
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since I have no clue who the person you mention is |
mandyky |
Dec-19-04 06:32 PM |
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No, he's saying the original post is a rip-off of Berman's pro-DLC |
BullGooseLoony |
Dec-20-04 05:25 AM |
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Oops. Nothing to see here! Deleted. |
blondeatlast |
Dec-20-04 06:42 AM |
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What we need is sleuth journalists. |
The Backlash Cometh |
Dec-19-04 07:50 AM |
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How about a new liberalism that rejects Govt.-created Boogeymen? |
tasteblind |
Dec-19-04 07:52 AM |
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But I think militant fundamentalist Islam is a direct result of the US |
hollowdweller |
Dec-19-04 08:19 AM |
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All of these bizarre arguments stem from acceptance of Bush at his word. |
tasteblind |
Dec-19-04 08:27 AM |
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They SAID |
Debs |
Dec-20-04 06:12 AM |
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Well said--"Bush at his word." |
blondeatlast |
Dec-20-04 06:46 AM |
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Cut it out. |
BullGooseLoony |
Dec-20-04 05:30 AM |
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The "New Liberalism" is old Republicanism - complete with bogeyman. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Dec-19-04 07:57 PM |
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You too. |
BullGooseLoony |
Dec-20-04 05:39 AM |
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Neither of you are wrong |
Debs |
Dec-20-04 06:16 AM |
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"terrorist-sympathizing"? How did you get that? |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Dec-20-04 08:36 AM |
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Al Qaeda is NOT a "bogeyman," as you called it. |
BullGooseLoony |
Dec-20-04 09:17 AM |
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How do you propose "killing" them? |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Dec-20-04 11:10 AM |
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It's not "adolescent." The causes should be addressed, |
BullGooseLoony |
Dec-21-04 06:20 AM |
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Read a lot of Tom Clancy books? |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Dec-21-04 08:06 AM |
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Give me a fucking BREAK. |
BullGooseLoony |
Dec-21-04 08:37 AM |
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Been stoking up on your Testeronios? |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Dec-21-04 10:28 AM |
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Uh...just now. You were saying that we shouldn't go after |
BullGooseLoony |
Dec-21-04 10:59 AM |
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I did? Show me where. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Dec-21-04 11:24 AM |
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You said: |
BullGooseLoony |
Dec-21-04 12:12 PM |
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I'll stick with what you quoted. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Dec-21-04 12:36 PM |
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Actually, hunting down and killing terrorists in Israel HAS worked. |
impeachdubya |
Dec-21-04 03:25 PM |
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Solid points! Couldn't agree more. |
Bush was AWOL |
Dec-21-04 11:22 AM |
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Right. Which is why the Bush administration always deals so agressively |
impeachdubya |
Dec-20-04 11:43 PM |
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That's my POINT! Are you reading what I'm saying?? nt |
BullGooseLoony |
Dec-21-04 06:19 AM |
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I gotcha and I totally agree. |
Bush was AWOL |
Dec-21-04 11:23 AM |
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Well, I don't begrudge anyone calling Al Qaeda a boogeyman |
impeachdubya |
Dec-21-04 03:09 PM |
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A lot of you are missing the point |
Forever Free |
Dec-19-04 08:21 PM |
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THAT IS NOT OUR FUCKING ARGUMENT. |
BullGooseLoony |
Dec-20-04 05:24 AM |
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And IF |
Debs |
Dec-20-04 06:23 AM |
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For pity's sake--we as individuals are powerless at stopping Bin Laden. |
blondeatlast |
Dec-20-04 06:53 AM |
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Bin Laden should never have been a threat |
eridani |
Dec-20-04 11:22 PM |
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So... Only loonies think there is any threat from a |
impeachdubya |
Dec-20-04 11:44 PM |
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As the founding fathers warned, the greatest threats are within... |
IrateCitizen |
Dec-21-04 11:42 AM |
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Decline of State loyalty |
sandnsea |
Dec-21-04 12:18 PM |
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nope. sorry. too much bullshit there. |
kodi |
Dec-19-04 09:24 PM |
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Orcinus's response to this |
Telly Savalas |
Dec-19-04 09:56 PM |
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and damn nicely done, too. |
kodi |
Dec-19-04 10:10 PM |
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I'll snip it |
RafterMan |
Dec-20-04 05:51 AM |
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They're both saying liberals don't care about terrorism. |
BullGooseLoony |
Dec-20-04 05:51 AM |
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Glad to know that there are some sane people are there |
Forever Free |
Dec-21-04 04:02 PM |
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Excellent. I've had to stop reading New Republic since Beinart became |
blondeatlast |
Dec-20-04 06:55 AM |
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My main problem with this article. My country right or wrong attitude. |
bklyncowgirl |
Dec-20-04 05:45 AM |
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That's his way of subtley whoring for the Bush administration |
BullGooseLoony |
Dec-20-04 05:52 AM |
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Suckered into or misguided. |
Disturbed |
Dec-20-04 06:10 AM |
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Nice post. nt |
BullGooseLoony |
Dec-20-04 06:16 AM |
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"We need a "New Liberalism" that fights America's enemies decisively" |
Debs |
Dec-20-04 05:58 AM |
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I suspect there are some old Conservatives who would say exactly the same. |
blondeatlast |
Dec-20-04 07:01 AM |
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The RWinger's 'image' of 'strong on security' is all public relations... |
Q |
Dec-20-04 06:33 AM |
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Beinart? No thanks--where's the "talk to the hand icon?" nt |
blondeatlast |
Dec-20-04 06:35 AM |
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So--which country should we invade next? |
Bridget Burke |
Dec-20-04 09:09 AM |
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What a load of steaming DLC bullshit |
AntiCoup2K4 |
Dec-20-04 09:14 AM |
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Appears to me that most of Americas enemies |
Jose Diablo |
Dec-20-04 09:45 AM |
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The fact that you don't try and CRUSH something with a hammer.. |
kamqute |
Dec-20-04 09:50 AM |
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Let's call a spade a spade: Fundamentalist Kooks are the problem. |
impeachdubya |
Dec-20-04 11:48 PM |
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Here's how liberals want to stop terrorism. |
DireStrike |
Dec-21-04 12:14 AM |
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That's the problem... |
Q |
Dec-21-04 06:36 AM |
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become energy independent, force Israel and Palestine into peace and... |
Bush was AWOL |
Dec-21-04 11:26 AM |
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We'd also better know damned well WHO we're hitting... |
IrateCitizen |
Dec-21-04 11:30 AM |
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YESSSS. |
BullGooseLoony |
Dec-21-04 12:15 PM |
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We need to stop being told what we need |
Capn Sunshine |
Dec-21-04 11:31 AM |
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Al-Qaeda IS a threat, those that say otherwise are insanely naive |
Forever Free |
Dec-21-04 04:07 PM |
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FACT: Al Qaeda was a creation of George Bush Sr's CIA |
AntiCoup2K4 |
Dec-21-04 04:14 PM |
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A threat that means invading and occupying Iraq? |
Q |
Dec-21-04 04:22 PM |
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Yet again, you miss the point |
Forever Free |
Dec-21-04 04:46 PM |
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But isn't the 'point' that there ISN'T a 'real war' against Al-Qaeda? |
Q |
Dec-21-04 04:58 PM |
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We need some Old Liberalism to resolve this problem wisely. |
rman |
Dec-21-04 04:25 PM |
#85 |
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