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Sun Dec-19-04 06:29 AM
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| 10. You are disgustingly misrepresenting real liberals. |
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You've got ONE quote, from ONE liberal, Michael Moore, underrepresenting the threat poised by Al Qaeda. I totally disagree with that ONE quote.
But EVERYTHING else he has said is entirely correct- and has only been represented by us "far-left" (ha ha!) liberals. While I wholeheartedly supported the invasion of Afghanistan, and push to find Osama bin Laden (which Bush has not done, and the "New Liberal" DLC Dems, as you call them, have NOT CALLED HIM ON), the invasion of Iraq was a DISGRACE to our country, and not only that, it was, and still is, DANGEROUS. Further, corporations, whom these "New Liberal" Dems represent, truly HAVE taken over our country for their financial interest- all branches of government, TV, radio, the internet, the military, healthcare, the environment....on and on. All so that they kind find new ways to fleece America's people. And these are who are represented by your "Joe Liebermans and Joe Bidens."
THAT is what needs to be stood up against.
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| -We need a "New Liberalism" that fights America's enemies decisively |
Forever Free |
Dec-19-04 02:57 AM |
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Have conservatives "articulated with passion" THEIR vision... |
Placebo |
Dec-19-04 03:01 AM |
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Yeah - "Peter Beinart " the neo-con in sheep clothing |
mazzarro |
Dec-19-04 03:01 AM |
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I agree... |
itzamirakul |
Dec-19-04 04:10 AM |
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Peter Beinart is a pro-war whore |
Rockerdem |
Dec-20-04 11:31 PM |
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Fourth Generation warfare |
sandnsea |
Dec-19-04 03:32 AM |
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Since when has the US ever been interested in fighting totalitarian Islam? |
eridani |
Dec-19-04 05:09 AM |
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There are so many flawed assumptions |
kenzee13 |
Dec-19-04 05:19 AM |
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Borrowed rant |
gottaB |
Dec-19-04 06:07 AM |
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'The Ref' |
Placebo |
Dec-19-04 07:57 PM |
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all that hyping of muscular, hard guntoting made me want to scream |
gottaB |
Dec-20-04 05:58 AM |
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It's both, one of my hubby's and my favorite movies. |
blondeatlast |
Dec-20-04 06:38 AM |
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peter beinart = fraud |
xchrom |
Dec-19-04 06:18 AM |
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Wow. What breathtaking propaganda! |
Q |
Dec-19-04 06:24 AM |
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Have you read any of Beinart's work? He's a loathesome, Zell-like |
blondeatlast |
Dec-20-04 06:41 AM |
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You are disgustingly misrepresenting real liberals. |
BullGooseLoony |
Dec-19-04 06:29 AM |
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I'll take your point a bit further |
mandyky |
Dec-19-04 06:52 AM |
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blatant rip-off |
imsocoolerthanyou |
Dec-19-04 06:54 AM |
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since I have no clue who the person you mention is |
mandyky |
Dec-19-04 06:32 PM |
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No, he's saying the original post is a rip-off of Berman's pro-DLC |
BullGooseLoony |
Dec-20-04 05:25 AM |
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Oops. Nothing to see here! Deleted. |
blondeatlast |
Dec-20-04 06:42 AM |
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What we need is sleuth journalists. |
The Backlash Cometh |
Dec-19-04 07:50 AM |
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How about a new liberalism that rejects Govt.-created Boogeymen? |
tasteblind |
Dec-19-04 07:52 AM |
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But I think militant fundamentalist Islam is a direct result of the US |
hollowdweller |
Dec-19-04 08:19 AM |
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All of these bizarre arguments stem from acceptance of Bush at his word. |
tasteblind |
Dec-19-04 08:27 AM |
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They SAID |
Debs |
Dec-20-04 06:12 AM |
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Well said--"Bush at his word." |
blondeatlast |
Dec-20-04 06:46 AM |
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Cut it out. |
BullGooseLoony |
Dec-20-04 05:30 AM |
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The "New Liberalism" is old Republicanism - complete with bogeyman. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Dec-19-04 07:57 PM |
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You too. |
BullGooseLoony |
Dec-20-04 05:39 AM |
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Neither of you are wrong |
Debs |
Dec-20-04 06:16 AM |
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"terrorist-sympathizing"? How did you get that? |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Dec-20-04 08:36 AM |
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Al Qaeda is NOT a "bogeyman," as you called it. |
BullGooseLoony |
Dec-20-04 09:17 AM |
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How do you propose "killing" them? |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Dec-20-04 11:10 AM |
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It's not "adolescent." The causes should be addressed, |
BullGooseLoony |
Dec-21-04 06:20 AM |
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Read a lot of Tom Clancy books? |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Dec-21-04 08:06 AM |
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Give me a fucking BREAK. |
BullGooseLoony |
Dec-21-04 08:37 AM |
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Been stoking up on your Testeronios? |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Dec-21-04 10:28 AM |
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Uh...just now. You were saying that we shouldn't go after |
BullGooseLoony |
Dec-21-04 10:59 AM |
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I did? Show me where. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Dec-21-04 11:24 AM |
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You said: |
BullGooseLoony |
Dec-21-04 12:12 PM |
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I'll stick with what you quoted. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Dec-21-04 12:36 PM |
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Actually, hunting down and killing terrorists in Israel HAS worked. |
impeachdubya |
Dec-21-04 03:25 PM |
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Solid points! Couldn't agree more. |
Bush was AWOL |
Dec-21-04 11:22 AM |
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Right. Which is why the Bush administration always deals so agressively |
impeachdubya |
Dec-20-04 11:43 PM |
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That's my POINT! Are you reading what I'm saying?? nt |
BullGooseLoony |
Dec-21-04 06:19 AM |
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I gotcha and I totally agree. |
Bush was AWOL |
Dec-21-04 11:23 AM |
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Well, I don't begrudge anyone calling Al Qaeda a boogeyman |
impeachdubya |
Dec-21-04 03:09 PM |
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A lot of you are missing the point |
Forever Free |
Dec-19-04 08:21 PM |
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THAT IS NOT OUR FUCKING ARGUMENT. |
BullGooseLoony |
Dec-20-04 05:24 AM |
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And IF |
Debs |
Dec-20-04 06:23 AM |
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For pity's sake--we as individuals are powerless at stopping Bin Laden. |
blondeatlast |
Dec-20-04 06:53 AM |
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Bin Laden should never have been a threat |
eridani |
Dec-20-04 11:22 PM |
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So... Only loonies think there is any threat from a |
impeachdubya |
Dec-20-04 11:44 PM |
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As the founding fathers warned, the greatest threats are within... |
IrateCitizen |
Dec-21-04 11:42 AM |
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Decline of State loyalty |
sandnsea |
Dec-21-04 12:18 PM |
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nope. sorry. too much bullshit there. |
kodi |
Dec-19-04 09:24 PM |
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Orcinus's response to this |
Telly Savalas |
Dec-19-04 09:56 PM |
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and damn nicely done, too. |
kodi |
Dec-19-04 10:10 PM |
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I'll snip it |
RafterMan |
Dec-20-04 05:51 AM |
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They're both saying liberals don't care about terrorism. |
BullGooseLoony |
Dec-20-04 05:51 AM |
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Glad to know that there are some sane people are there |
Forever Free |
Dec-21-04 04:02 PM |
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Excellent. I've had to stop reading New Republic since Beinart became |
blondeatlast |
Dec-20-04 06:55 AM |
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My main problem with this article. My country right or wrong attitude. |
bklyncowgirl |
Dec-20-04 05:45 AM |
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That's his way of subtley whoring for the Bush administration |
BullGooseLoony |
Dec-20-04 05:52 AM |
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Suckered into or misguided. |
Disturbed |
Dec-20-04 06:10 AM |
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Nice post. nt |
BullGooseLoony |
Dec-20-04 06:16 AM |
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"We need a "New Liberalism" that fights America's enemies decisively" |
Debs |
Dec-20-04 05:58 AM |
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I suspect there are some old Conservatives who would say exactly the same. |
blondeatlast |
Dec-20-04 07:01 AM |
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The RWinger's 'image' of 'strong on security' is all public relations... |
Q |
Dec-20-04 06:33 AM |
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Beinart? No thanks--where's the "talk to the hand icon?" nt |
blondeatlast |
Dec-20-04 06:35 AM |
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So--which country should we invade next? |
Bridget Burke |
Dec-20-04 09:09 AM |
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What a load of steaming DLC bullshit |
AntiCoup2K4 |
Dec-20-04 09:14 AM |
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Appears to me that most of Americas enemies |
Jose Diablo |
Dec-20-04 09:45 AM |
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The fact that you don't try and CRUSH something with a hammer.. |
kamqute |
Dec-20-04 09:50 AM |
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Let's call a spade a spade: Fundamentalist Kooks are the problem. |
impeachdubya |
Dec-20-04 11:48 PM |
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Here's how liberals want to stop terrorism. |
DireStrike |
Dec-21-04 12:14 AM |
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That's the problem... |
Q |
Dec-21-04 06:36 AM |
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become energy independent, force Israel and Palestine into peace and... |
Bush was AWOL |
Dec-21-04 11:26 AM |
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We'd also better know damned well WHO we're hitting... |
IrateCitizen |
Dec-21-04 11:30 AM |
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YESSSS. |
BullGooseLoony |
Dec-21-04 12:15 PM |
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We need to stop being told what we need |
Capn Sunshine |
Dec-21-04 11:31 AM |
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Al-Qaeda IS a threat, those that say otherwise are insanely naive |
Forever Free |
Dec-21-04 04:07 PM |
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FACT: Al Qaeda was a creation of George Bush Sr's CIA |
AntiCoup2K4 |
Dec-21-04 04:14 PM |
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A threat that means invading and occupying Iraq? |
Q |
Dec-21-04 04:22 PM |
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Yet again, you miss the point |
Forever Free |
Dec-21-04 04:46 PM |
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But isn't the 'point' that there ISN'T a 'real war' against Al-Qaeda? |
Q |
Dec-21-04 04:58 PM |
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We need some Old Liberalism to resolve this problem wisely. |
rman |
Dec-21-04 04:25 PM |
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