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Tue Dec-14-04 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
| 15. "How can we build a constituency for a real Progressive agenda?" |
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| -DO DEMOCRATS STAND IN THE WAY OF PROGRESSIVE CHANGE? | ulTRAX | Dec-14-04 12:08 PM | #0 |
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Yes, absolutely... |
IrateCitizen | Dec-14-04 12:12 PM | #1 |
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A strong 3rd party on the left would help alot |
justinsb | Dec-14-04 12:15 PM | #2 |
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You guys have a parlamentary system don't you? Not a winner take all. (nt) |
w4rma | Dec-14-04 12:17 PM | #3 |
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Yes but |
justinsb | Dec-14-04 12:22 PM | #4 |
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One big difference, though... |
Telly Savalas | Dec-14-04 12:58 PM | #10 |
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In many areas it's not though... |
justinsb | Dec-14-04 01:08 PM | #11 |
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These are the places though |
Telly Savalas | Dec-14-04 03:07 PM | #16 |
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true but |
ulTRAX | Dec-16-04 08:41 PM | #44 |
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single district plurality voting |
ulTRAX | Dec-14-04 12:37 PM | #6 |
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Here the NDP wins |
justinsb | Dec-14-04 12:43 PM | #8 |
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No it wouldn't. |
LoZoccolo | Dec-14-04 12:34 PM | #5 |
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so did Kerry |
ulTRAX | Dec-14-04 12:43 PM | #7 |
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My point is that not many people want a left-wing third party. |
LoZoccolo | Dec-14-04 12:53 PM | #9 |
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maybe you are making my point |
ulTRAX | Dec-14-04 01:13 PM | #12 |
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Kucinich |
ulTRAX | Dec-14-04 01:25 PM | #13 |
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Then you really can't say anything about the Democrats... |
LoZoccolo | Dec-14-04 01:31 PM | #14 |
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if true then |
ulTRAX | Dec-14-04 05:29 PM | #17 |
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You said that kind of thing when the Kerry message board edited your post. |
LoZoccolo | Dec-14-04 05:41 PM | #18 |
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are you suggesting..... |
ulTRAX | Dec-14-04 09:49 PM | #19 |
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No. |
LoZoccolo | Dec-14-04 11:18 PM | #21 |
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your approach goes nowhere |
ulTRAX | Dec-15-04 01:55 PM | #22 |
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"How can we build a constituency for a real Progressive agenda?" |
F.Gordon | Dec-14-04 01:47 PM | #15 |
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I'm not responsible for the failures of the Dems |
ulTRAX | Dec-15-04 02:11 PM | #24 |
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You personally? No. |
F.Gordon | Dec-15-04 02:35 PM | #26 |
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is 50 years too long? depends |
ulTRAX | Dec-15-04 04:30 PM | #29 |
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Ahhh...I see |
F.Gordon | Dec-15-04 08:16 PM | #30 |
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if Democrats..... |
ulTRAX | Dec-15-04 09:21 PM | #31 |
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Good luck with that. |
Redleg | Dec-14-04 10:41 PM | #20 |
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good luck with what? |
ulTRAX | Dec-15-04 02:21 PM | #25 |
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Good luck with the third party thing. If it works perhaps I'll join. |
Redleg | Dec-15-04 02:40 PM | #27 |
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you misunderstand |
ulTRAX | Dec-15-04 04:21 PM | #28 |
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I think you may be right but I think a lot of Dems do realize reform |
Redleg | Dec-15-04 09:57 PM | #32 |
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When I see the Democrats take a firm stand....... |
ulTRAX | Dec-15-04 10:26 PM | #34 |
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Yes, but the party is people. |
Redleg | Dec-16-04 12:40 PM | #39 |
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Democrats are at war with their Progressives |
ulTRAX | Dec-16-04 01:40 PM | #41 |
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Yes. By offering a themselves as a false "opposition" party. |
Tierra_y_Libertad | Dec-15-04 02:04 PM | #23 |
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touche. nt |
UpsideDownFlag | Dec-15-04 11:45 PM | #36 |
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much of this is because... |
ulTRAX | Dec-16-04 09:45 AM | #37 |
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I find the Democratic Party to be fairly welcoming to progressives. |
Endangered Specie | Dec-15-04 10:06 PM | #33 |
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you may be right... but....... |
ulTRAX | Dec-15-04 10:30 PM | #35 |
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yet DLC says it will not let *their* party be hijacked by progressives |
rman | Dec-16-04 10:58 AM | #38 |
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Arrogance of many Dems |
ulTRAX | Dec-16-04 01:30 PM | #40 |
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no, culture jihadists are who stand in the way |
President Jesus | Dec-16-04 02:39 PM | #42 |
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you miss the point |
ulTRAX | Dec-16-04 04:11 PM | #43 |
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Yes...and the opposite is true. |
Krupskaya | Dec-16-04 08:54 PM | #45 |
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explain |
ulTRAX | Dec-16-04 10:17 PM | #46 |
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We don't need to become republicallite |
aloneinva | Dec-16-04 10:22 PM | #47 |
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