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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 01:03 PM
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5. thats what I say
but its not so obvious to some.
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  -Purging is an inherently undemocratic policy JohnKleeb  Dec-12-04 12:56 PM   #0 
  - i second that  JI7   Dec-12-04 12:58 PM   #1 
  - I got a picture of a guy who purged those who were "disloyal"  JohnKleeb   Dec-12-04 01:00 PM   #2 
     - The person I think of  Retired AF Dem   Dec-12-04 01:27 PM   #11 
     - Right  JohnKleeb   Dec-12-04 01:28 PM   #12 
        - About as strong as you can get  Retired AF Dem   Dec-12-04 01:32 PM   #13 
     - Well, he WAS pretty successful.  BullGooseLoony   Dec-12-04 02:46 PM   #37 
     - hah it's not about whether purging works or not  JohnKleeb   Dec-12-04 02:47 PM   #39 
        - I'm not sure I'm seeing the connection here.  BullGooseLoony   Dec-12-04 02:50 PM   #44 
           - I didn't say anything about Jews  JohnKleeb   Dec-12-04 02:54 PM   #48 
              - It's ABSOLUTELY democratic.  BullGooseLoony   Dec-12-04 02:55 PM   #49 
                 - Ok I understand your point  JohnKleeb   Dec-12-04 02:57 PM   #52 
                    - Not vote for em.  BullGooseLoony   Dec-12-04 02:59 PM   #55 
                       - Its just I dont know how you guys expect to beat entrenched dems  JohnKleeb   Dec-12-04 03:01 PM   #59 
                          - They're going to get beat either way.  BullGooseLoony   Dec-12-04 03:02 PM   #62 
                             - not exactly  JohnKleeb   Dec-12-04 03:04 PM   #63 
                                - Man, we just saw it. Our Senate Minority LEADER got beat.  BullGooseLoony   Dec-12-04 03:06 PM   #65 
                                   - thats a justification for why we shouldn't have bright red staters  JohnKleeb   Dec-12-04 03:08 PM   #70 
                                   - Remember though  fujiyama   Dec-12-04 03:11 PM   #72 
                                      - right and I think Daschle's problem was the state he was from  JohnKleeb   Dec-12-04 03:13 PM   #74 
                                      - Picking the minority leader  fujiyama   Dec-12-04 04:23 PM   #78 
                                      - How much Bush won it by isn't a good thing for DLC supporters. nt  BullGooseLoony   Dec-12-04 08:47 PM   #86 
     - You are right on, John, and an excellent student of history  Rhiannon12866   Dec-14-04 02:59 AM   #87 
  - duh!  Guarionex   Dec-12-04 01:01 PM   #3 
  - thats what I say  JohnKleeb   Dec-12-04 01:03 PM   #5 
  - Define "purging"...  kentuck   Dec-12-04 01:01 PM   #4 
  - No, thats not purging, thats changing the stragety  JohnKleeb   Dec-12-04 01:06 PM   #7 
  - the only purging I hear mentioned around here is by you and your gang  Cheswick2.0   Dec-12-04 01:14 PM   #9 
     - Not true?  Champ   Dec-12-04 01:38 PM   #14 
        - Thanks I should have specified  JohnKleeb   Dec-12-04 01:49 PM   #15 
  - Of course.  FightinNewDem   Dec-12-04 01:06 PM   #8 
  - I agree. Purge the Purgers!!! (nt)  JaneQPublic   Dec-12-04 01:05 PM   #6 
  - I could never nail purging down.  Tandalayo_Scheisskopf   Dec-12-04 01:15 PM   #10 
  - I think anyone who takes corporate/special interest cash is "undemocratic"  Selatius   Dec-12-04 02:15 PM   #16 
  - a union could be classified as "special interest"  JohnKleeb   Dec-12-04 02:23 PM   #17 
     - Well, now you're just splitting hairs.  Selatius   Dec-12-04 02:29 PM   #18 
        - Well they are a special interest group technically  JohnKleeb   Dec-12-04 02:34 PM   #20 
           - Still, I don't accept the influence of money in a system built for people  Selatius   Dec-12-04 02:39 PM   #24 
           - no, your point is right  JohnKleeb   Dec-12-04 02:43 PM   #30 
           - But they're a DEMOCRATIC special interest.  BullGooseLoony   Dec-12-04 02:40 PM   #26 
              - right  JohnKleeb   Dec-12-04 02:41 PM   #28 
                 - I mean little "d". nt  BullGooseLoony   Dec-12-04 02:43 PM   #32 
                 - ahh  JohnKleeb   Dec-12-04 02:46 PM   #36 
                 - I still disagree  Selatius   Dec-12-04 02:45 PM   #34 
  - Yet it seems to pretty popular with DUers  Freddie Stubbs   Dec-12-04 02:30 PM   #19 
  - I see that  JohnKleeb   Dec-12-04 02:35 PM   #21 
  - the man endorsed Bush.  ulysses   Dec-12-04 02:38 PM   #22 
     - thats not a good example I agree  JohnKleeb   Dec-12-04 02:39 PM   #25 
  - What, you can't fire people if you're a Democrat?  BullGooseLoony   Dec-12-04 02:39 PM   #23 
  - who is us? they represent all sorts of people  JohnKleeb   Dec-12-04 02:41 PM   #27 
     - Who do they represent?  BullGooseLoony   Dec-12-04 02:43 PM   #31 
        - you're telling me, you haven't seen people asking whether we can purge  JohnKleeb   Dec-12-04 02:45 PM   #35 
           - Sorry, man, when they're voting with the neocons more than the Democrats,  BullGooseLoony   Dec-12-04 02:48 PM   #40 
              - Of course its naive  JohnKleeb   Dec-12-04 02:52 PM   #45 
  - exactly so.  ulysses   Dec-12-04 02:42 PM   #29 
  - what's his email?  JohnKleeb   Dec-12-04 02:44 PM   #33 
     - perhaps you weren't.  ulysses   Dec-12-04 02:47 PM   #38 
        - A lot of people don't like From for trying to do away with progressive  JohnKleeb   Dec-12-04 02:50 PM   #42 
           - as if progressives even could purge moderates anyway.  ulysses   Dec-12-04 02:57 PM   #53 
              - right  JohnKleeb   Dec-12-04 03:00 PM   #56 
  - I completely agree, John!  Padraig18   Dec-12-04 02:49 PM   #41 
  - Man, you guys just gotta be tougher.  BullGooseLoony   Dec-12-04 02:53 PM   #47 
     - heh you expect me to have sympathy for republicans we beat?  JohnKleeb   Dec-12-04 02:56 PM   #50 
  - If we dont purge the eunuchs & liars from from our party...  Dr Fate   Dec-12-04 02:50 PM   #43 
  - who will replace them?  JohnKleeb   Dec-12-04 02:53 PM   #46 
     - Either someone on the other side, or someone with the right message  BullGooseLoony   Dec-12-04 02:57 PM   #51 
     - someone on the other side who would be far worse  JohnKleeb   Dec-12-04 02:58 PM   #54 
        - Aside from the "purity" connotations, the party really is better off  BullGooseLoony   Dec-12-04 03:00 PM   #57 
           - I don't see how we'd be better off with fewer people in congress  JohnKleeb   Dec-12-04 03:02 PM   #61 
              - We'll be better off when we have a solid, populist message.  BullGooseLoony   Dec-12-04 03:04 PM   #64 
                 - well you know if the party dies for a while, things will only get worse  JohnKleeb   Dec-12-04 03:07 PM   #68 
                    - Yeah. But things are getting worse.  BullGooseLoony   Dec-12-04 03:11 PM   #71 
                       - things will get worse if we have less people in congress  JohnKleeb   Dec-12-04 03:12 PM   #73 
                          - LOL how? nt  BullGooseLoony   Dec-12-04 08:11 PM   #81 
                             - Easier to pass things with a big ass conservative majority don't you think  JohnKleeb   Dec-12-04 08:19 PM   #83 
                                - No, man, you said "easier"...  BullGooseLoony   Dec-12-04 08:43 PM   #84 
     - No problem-Republicans are replacing them at every election.  Dr Fate   Dec-12-04 03:07 PM   #67 
  - The colonists "purged" this country of the British back in the day.  Zorra   Dec-12-04 03:01 PM   #58 
  - that was a revolution  JohnKleeb   Dec-12-04 03:01 PM   #60 
     - LOL well just consider this a revolution, baby.  BullGooseLoony   Dec-12-04 03:06 PM   #66 
     - strangest revolution Ive herad of  JohnKleeb   Dec-12-04 03:07 PM   #69 
        - Revolutions can be waged with the pen  Selatius   Dec-14-04 03:13 AM   #89 
     - Get rid of the King Mole, first!  Walt Starr   Dec-12-04 03:15 PM   #75 
     - From is a bastard  JohnKleeb   Dec-12-04 03:16 PM   #76 
        - the third way isn't just From  ulysses   Dec-14-04 05:08 PM   #97 
     - Mole:  Zorra   Dec-12-04 04:09 PM   #77 
  - So is refusing to fight  Kitsune   Dec-12-04 04:25 PM   #79 
  - Bow down.  BullGooseLoony   Dec-12-04 08:10 PM   #80 
  - of course thats just as wrong, you assume because I oppose purging  JohnKleeb   Dec-12-04 08:17 PM   #82 
     - You assume just because I think we should get rid of people  BullGooseLoony   Dec-12-04 08:44 PM   #85 
  - I agree,  Crunchy Frog   Dec-14-04 03:12 AM   #88 
  - right and I think they're just as wrong  JohnKleeb   Dec-14-04 12:21 PM   #94 
  - Better?  Rhiannon12866   Dec-14-04 05:43 AM   #90 
  - Just irritate them enough and they will leave voluntarily.  quaker bill   Dec-14-04 05:59 AM   #91 
  - Is the DLC democratically elected?  rman   Dec-14-04 06:56 AM   #92 
  - They're a think tank essentially  JohnKleeb   Dec-14-04 12:20 PM   #93 
     - Seems to me, when the DLC speaks the media repeat it.  rman   Dec-14-04 01:31 PM   #95 
  - not to mention incredibly stupid.  John_H   Dec-14-04 01:56 PM   #96 
  - call it what you will  Blue_Tires   Dec-14-04 05:49 PM   #98 
  - Zell Miller  DaveinMD   Dec-14-04 07:02 PM   #99 
     - Thank you, right it would be bad if we lost people like Salazar  JohnKleeb   Dec-14-04 10:41 PM   #102 
        - thanks John  DaveinMD   Dec-14-04 10:51 PM   #103 
           - Thanks, its been rough, I wish this thread were locked honest since I'm  JohnKleeb   Dec-14-04 10:54 PM   #104 
           - I agree. John brought up an incredibly relevant topic  Rhiannon12866   Dec-18-04 04:15 AM   #106 
  - Big difference between 'purging'--  eridani   Dec-14-04 10:30 PM   #100 
  - Thats not what I am talking about  JohnKleeb   Dec-14-04 10:39 PM   #101 
  - I support Howard Dean for DNC chair.  Rhiannon12866   Dec-18-04 04:38 AM   #107 
  - Hold the phone! I agree with John!  Rhiannon12866   Dec-16-04 05:20 AM   #105 
  - Not democratic, but realistic.  KSAtheist   Dec-18-04 05:34 AM   #108 
 

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