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| 8. Only if the media propaganda worked on you. |
| -Alright - Am I the only DU'er who thinks Kerry actually lost? |
liberalpragmatist |
Nov-27-04 01:41 AM |
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absolutely not |
Syrinx |
Nov-27-04 01:44 AM |
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I dont know |
JohnKleeb |
Nov-27-04 01:47 AM |
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Kerry would have made a FANTASTIC President |
liberalpragmatist |
Nov-27-04 01:50 AM |
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I know, I agree with you |
JohnKleeb |
Nov-27-04 01:54 AM |
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Here's what Supreme Court Justice Stevens said |
pnorman |
Nov-27-04 03:22 AM |
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I wish I could see it this year |
JohnKleeb |
Nov-27-04 03:33 AM |
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Karl Rove is getting better at it. |
pnorman |
Nov-27-04 03:47 AM |
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well then we should work toward taking his banana away from |
okieinpain |
Nov-27-04 08:39 AM |
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Worry about future |
GFGOHR |
Nov-27-04 08:52 AM |
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Hi GFGOHR!! |
newyawker99 |
Nov-27-04 09:44 AM |
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I agree, and I would add |
ModerateMiddle |
Nov-27-04 11:34 AM |
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Of course not |
Mojambo |
Nov-27-04 01:48 AM |
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You are not the ONLY ONE |
alittlelark |
Nov-27-04 01:49 AM |
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In the minority? |
Freddie Stubbs |
Nov-27-04 04:45 PM |
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Nov-27-04 01:49 AM |
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What happened ? |
Yupster |
Nov-27-04 03:31 AM |
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Absentee Ballots have to ARRIVE on election day to be counted.... |
indigolady |
Nov-27-04 02:23 PM |
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Depends on the state |
Blue Wally |
Nov-27-04 04:27 PM |
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I respectfully disagree. The Exit Polls were right and the vote was |
missouri dem 2 |
Nov-27-04 01:52 AM |
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Only if the media propaganda worked on you. |
lthuedk |
Nov-27-04 01:53 AM |
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No. Kerry lost. I hate it but he did. |
LOSTintheSOUTH |
Nov-27-04 01:54 AM |
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Ah, what's the point of your post? |
Erika |
Nov-27-04 01:56 AM |
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I never said the country was against Democrats |
liberalpragmatist |
Nov-27-04 02:01 AM |
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I disagree totally |
Erika |
Nov-27-04 02:06 AM |
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The problem with the analogy is I don't see any credible case ... |
liberalpragmatist |
Nov-27-04 02:18 AM |
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You will never convince these people. |
Julien Sorel |
Nov-27-04 09:10 AM |
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Thanks, Julien, that was one of best posts I've read in awhile |
Carson |
Nov-27-04 10:58 AM |
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The gremlins did it!!!! Great post! |
scarletwoman |
Nov-27-04 05:01 PM |
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I hate to admit it but I have been feeling the same way |
Truman01 |
Nov-27-04 05:10 PM |
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Nov-27-04 02:02 AM |
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Yes, Bush is a King George |
Erika |
Nov-27-04 02:10 AM |
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Nov-27-04 02:20 AM |
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No, 2000 wasn't "rigged" |
Blue Wally |
Nov-27-04 04:37 PM |
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OMG a voice of cold reason.... What are we to do? |
Truman01 |
Nov-27-04 05:17 PM |
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Wow! Is this DU or Freeperland? |
John BigBootay |
Nov-27-04 06:28 PM |
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I disagree But you are entitled to your opinion. |
saracat |
Nov-27-04 02:10 AM |
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I agree |
Erika |
Nov-27-04 02:18 AM |
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This might be some kind of relevant argument |
gumby |
Nov-27-04 02:13 AM |
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I'm in between |
realisticphish |
Nov-27-04 02:13 AM |
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I agree! |
sushi |
Nov-27-04 02:47 AM |
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That's because you're a....PRAGMATIST. Nice post, don't agree. |
autorank |
Nov-27-04 02:18 AM |
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We're all pragmatists and idealists, but we're never each |
JohnKleeb |
Nov-27-04 02:20 AM |
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eh, I kinda wish I'd called myself "Pragmatic Liberal" |
liberalpragmatist |
Nov-27-04 02:21 AM |
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Ive been calling myself a progressive realist for the past month or so |
JohnKleeb |
Nov-27-04 02:24 AM |
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Idealism=Raiders; Pragmatism=Steelers |
autorank |
Nov-27-04 02:28 AM |
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nah |
JohnKleeb |
Nov-27-04 02:36 AM |
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OK, so explain the logo? Just kidding. |
autorank |
Nov-27-04 02:38 AM |
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ha |
JohnKleeb |
Nov-27-04 02:51 AM |
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False Dichotomy |
sangh0 |
Nov-27-04 11:35 AM |
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Pragmatist tradition, e.g., William James, John Dewey... |
autorank |
Nov-27-04 02:27 AM |
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weren't those guys also behavioralists |
JohnKleeb |
Nov-27-04 02:37 AM |
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Good point but you're a bit early. |
autorank |
Nov-27-04 03:25 PM |
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There is a large difference between think and know. |
realpolitik |
Nov-27-04 02:19 AM |
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nope |
NoodleBoy |
Nov-27-04 02:27 AM |
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Several bad scenarios, and what to do... |
LibeMatt |
Nov-27-04 02:29 AM |
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Start persuading them |
Blue Wally |
Nov-27-04 04:44 PM |
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At the risk of being berated again for being a low-post count "newbie" ... |
BansheeDem |
Nov-27-04 02:36 AM |
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Welcome to DU, and thanks for your post! |
liberalpragmatist |
Nov-27-04 02:41 AM |
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Actually, we are not in disagreement ... |
BansheeDem |
Nov-27-04 05:40 AM |
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I think insuring election cedibility |
Erika |
Nov-27-04 02:41 AM |
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Valid elections are fundamenal to a democracy. |
Eric J in MN |
Nov-27-04 05:51 AM |
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Excellent post. |
Silverhair |
Nov-27-04 09:03 AM |
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Still waiting as to quoted poll figures |
Erika |
Nov-27-04 02:39 AM |
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I concede I don't have the figures readily at my fingertips |
liberalpragmatist |
Nov-27-04 02:42 AM |
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You throw out figures that you cannot confirm |
Erika |
Nov-27-04 02:48 AM |
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I will vouch for liberal pragmatist |
Leilani |
Nov-27-04 02:55 AM |
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Ill vouch for the OP as well |
Uzybone |
Nov-27-04 06:21 PM |
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you're not alone. most democrats do think Kerry lost |
WI_DEM |
Nov-27-04 02:48 AM |
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You're a daring one, LP |
Lexingtonian |
Nov-27-04 02:52 AM |
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With some many possibilities for fraud... |
Krocksice |
Nov-27-04 02:53 AM |
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Hi Krocksice!! |
newyawker99 |
Nov-27-04 09:53 AM |
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The provisional count in OH has given me closure. This election is over |
fujiyama |
Nov-27-04 03:39 AM |
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Dunno. this data tends to shut my trap whenever I get uppity about the |
jadedcherub |
Nov-27-04 04:06 AM |
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It violates the Equal Protection clause of the US Constitution |
Eric J in MN |
Nov-27-04 05:48 AM |
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I agree with you, liberalpragmatist. |
robcon |
Nov-27-04 08:26 AM |
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I agree too. |
Zynx |
Nov-27-04 09:06 AM |
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Denial is a river in Egipt. tell me who were the 11 million extra voters |
robbedvoter |
Nov-27-04 08:56 AM |
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I agree |
driver8 |
Nov-27-04 09:37 AM |
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The problem is that the numbers already speak....... |
Truman01 |
Nov-27-04 04:52 PM |
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I really don't know if he lost, but I sort of lean toward accepting he did |
deutsey |
Nov-27-04 10:40 AM |
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Imagine what would be happening right now if Kerry hadn't conceded |
KerryDownUnder |
Nov-27-04 10:41 AM |
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You're not alone. |
Carson |
Nov-27-04 10:43 AM |
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I'm starting to think I'm in a liberal bubble -- the country IS rightwing |
mainer |
Nov-27-04 11:03 AM |
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I raised that possibility once. |
janx |
Nov-27-04 11:17 AM |
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Ironically you have to becareful...... |
Truman01 |
Nov-27-04 05:02 PM |
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The American people lost |
The Flaming Red Head |
Nov-27-04 11:20 AM |
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No, I've reached acceptance, too. |
Padraig18 |
Nov-27-04 11:22 AM |
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Actually we did get our troops out. |
Julien Sorel |
Nov-27-04 03:57 PM |
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Good clarification. |
Padraig18 |
Nov-27-04 03:59 PM |
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Yeah, their turnout completely rewrote the game in Ohio |
liberalpragmatist |
Nov-27-04 04:26 PM |
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Not sure we got out the vote |
Blue Wally |
Nov-27-04 04:56 PM |
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The country *is* right wing |
CarbonDate |
Nov-27-04 11:31 AM |
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We assume many times that we are in the majority.... |
Truman01 |
Nov-27-04 04:54 PM |
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I'm still not sure, but agree the recount efforts are for future elections |
ktowntennesseedem |
Nov-27-04 12:19 PM |
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kerry lost because he had no message |
shawrick |
Nov-27-04 02:09 PM |
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it's the counter-message that democrats keep failing at |
noiretblu |
Nov-27-04 03:32 PM |
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Big guvmint health programs |
sandnsea |
Nov-27-04 03:39 PM |
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how is it that democrats KEEP excusing disenfranshisement? |
noiretblu |
Nov-27-04 02:15 PM |
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I agree we should address the issues |
Truman01 |
Nov-27-04 04:58 PM |
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did i SAY it WAS a race issue? |
noiretblu |
Nov-27-04 05:16 PM |
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Certainly but I don't think long lines are a disenfranchisement. n/t |
Truman01 |
Nov-27-04 05:18 PM |
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what are they? if people "can't" vote because of long lines? |
noiretblu |
Nov-27-04 05:21 PM |
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I voted, and thousands of others did too |
Truman01 |
Nov-27-04 05:24 PM |
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as i said...perhaps we need to raise our expectations |
noiretblu |
Nov-27-04 05:31 PM |
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I certainly concede that point. n/t |
Truman01 |
Nov-27-04 05:40 PM |
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The repugs would be going ape if these things had happened to |
mbee |
Nov-27-04 02:25 PM |
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well said, mbee |
driver8 |
Nov-27-04 05:29 PM |
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No . Kerry LOST. |
ramapo |
Nov-27-04 03:31 PM |
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Your kidding, right? |
AngryAmish |
Nov-27-04 03:32 PM |
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No, Kerry lost |
jsw_81 |
Nov-27-04 03:42 PM |
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I'm sorry, but you seem to have have your head in the sand for the past |
mbee |
Nov-27-04 03:58 PM |
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The Kerry cabinet threads really piss me off |
liberalpragmatist |
Nov-27-04 04:27 PM |
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yet * is so willing to point fingers at the Ukraine election |
RegexReader |
Nov-27-04 05:23 PM |
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Kerry had an opportunity to ensure voting integrity |
FubarFly |
Nov-27-04 04:16 PM |
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No, you're not the only one. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Nov-27-04 04:31 PM |
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Until I see some credible evidence he lost fair and square |
PrisonerLazy8 |
Nov-27-04 04:50 PM |
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The smoking gun may be there, I doubt we will ever see it. |
gordianot |
Nov-27-04 05:02 PM |
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Life is horrible now? |
PrisonerLazy8 |
Nov-27-04 05:21 PM |
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I am living well, so far. |
gordianot |
Nov-27-04 08:48 PM |
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Can't stand Kerry and fellow defeatists such as you, but ABB won! |
robbedvoter |
Nov-27-04 04:58 PM |
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Not by the numbers we've been given |
Generator |
Nov-27-04 06:01 PM |
#117 |
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