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Is Howard Dean the next "Ronald Reagan"?
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"But the comparison that comes to mind when Lieberman bashes candidates who are popular with the party's base voters is not to the 1972 race, but rather to the 1980 contest for the Republican presidential nomination.

That year, moderate Republicans were horrified by the prospect that the party cadres were preparing to nominate former California Governor Ronald Reagan for president. Reagan's foes warned that if the conservative icon became the nominee, the November election results would be as disastrous as the 1964 campaign where standard-bearing conservative Barry Goldwater got trounced.

... There was even talk that former President Gerald Ford might have to be drafted into the primary competition in order to stop Reagan. But the party faithful could not be dissuaded. They followed their principles and their hearts and went with Reagan. The November election results proved them right. Even if Americans did not agree with Reagan's ideology, they preferred his confident style to the more nuanced and centrist offerings of Jimmy Carter and John Anderson.

Democrats who counsel compromise going into the 2004 contest are likely to find themselves disregarded in much the same way that Republican compromisers were in 1980. And rightly so. If the party chooses a candidate who is confident enough to aggressively challenge George W. Bush, Democrats might well find that steering a bold course is far more appealing to the great mass of American voters that the circumnavigations proposed by Joe Lieberman."












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  -Is Howard Dean the next "Ronald Reagan"? TDubyaA  Dec-21-03 12:58 PM   #0 
  - Dean is the anti-Reagan  brainshrub   Dec-21-03 01:04 PM   #1 
  - The article wasn't talking about ideological differences  TDubyaA   Dec-21-03 02:32 PM   #6 
  - By Way of Analogy, Yes  tsipple   Dec-21-03 01:23 PM   #2 
  - I think the parallels are more suited for Clark  worldgonekrazy   Dec-22-03 06:59 PM   #29 
     - re: "I think the parallels are more suited for Clark"  TDubyaA   Dec-23-03 06:49 AM   #30 
        - If we compare 2004 to 1980 than Clark is GHW *, not Reagan  mot78   Dec-23-03 09:16 PM   #37 
           - You mean the next VP?  TDubyaA   Dec-24-03 12:06 PM   #45 
  - Perhaps in some ways...  wyldwolf   Dec-21-03 01:25 PM   #3 
  - Try here  Egnever   Dec-21-03 01:33 PM   #4 
  - No. e/o/m  Skwmom   Dec-21-03 02:15 PM   #5 
  - I've Been Saying this for Months  Crisco   Dec-21-03 02:55 PM   #7 
  - 1976?  TDubyaA   Dec-21-03 04:25 PM   #8 
     - Not Carter - Reagan  Crisco   Dec-23-03 07:37 AM   #32 
        - I had never heard of Ronald Reagan until 1980  TDubyaA   Dec-25-03 10:44 PM   #52 
  - kick  ldoolin   Dec-21-03 04:47 PM   #9 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-21-03 05:03 PM   #10 
  - Wow  _NorCal_D_   Dec-21-03 05:05 PM   #11 
  - I disagree!  TDubyaA   Dec-21-03 06:51 PM   #13 
  - What? Dean's brain dead?  Gman   Dec-21-03 05:06 PM   #12 
  - What? Bush is an heir head?  TDubyaA   Dec-21-03 08:37 PM   #15 
  - maybe  w4rma   Dec-21-03 06:53 PM   #14 
  - Now that's a thread!  mzmolly   Dec-21-03 08:39 PM   #16 
  - hes the ronald reagan of the left  Fahrenheit911   Dec-21-03 08:42 PM   #17 
  - Ronald Reagan is "loved by America"  mzmolly   Dec-21-03 08:44 PM   #18 
     - what America are you living in pal..  Fahrenheit911   Dec-21-03 08:50 PM   #19 
        - Same America you are in 'pal'  mzmolly   Dec-21-03 08:55 PM   #21 
        - "I am really lost ..."  dajabr   Dec-21-03 09:00 PM   #22 
        - re: Dean does none of those things  TDubyaA   Dec-22-03 09:24 AM   #27 
  - No  andym   Dec-21-03 08:52 PM   #20 
  - It's not a comparison of ideologies  TDubyaA   Dec-21-03 10:56 PM   #24 
  - He's more Nixon than McGovern  ZombyWoof   Dec-21-03 09:11 PM   #23 
  - Replace "Ronald Reagan" with "Michael Dukkakis"  ClarkGraham2004   Dec-21-03 10:57 PM   #25 
  - I don't think the Constitution permits it  TDubyaA   Dec-22-03 12:43 AM   #26 
  - Did someone say Dukakis?  ResistTheCoup   Dec-23-03 10:52 PM   #38 
     - I KNEW this guy looked familiar !  arewethereyet   Dec-23-03 11:05 PM   #40 
  - "The Democratic Party is a lot like the Republican Party in 1980"  TDubyaA   Dec-22-03 06:29 PM   #28 
  - Depending on what he's got hidden away in his sealed records,  deminflorida   Dec-23-03 06:55 AM   #31 
  - Dean may be the next Richard Nixon?  TDubyaA   Dec-23-03 05:50 PM   #33 
  - Both are fiscal conservatives. Hopefully he wouldn't deregulate like  catherineD   Dec-23-03 07:35 PM   #34 
  - Yes, Reagan was a HUGE fiscal conservative </sarcasm>  ClarkGraham2004   Dec-24-03 02:09 PM   #47 
  - No, he's more like the next Jesse Ventura  no name no slogan   Dec-23-03 08:26 PM   #35 
  - Ventura  TDubyaA   Dec-24-03 12:53 AM   #41 
     - You must have missed the pre-Saddam newsweek cover...  SahaleArm   Dec-24-03 08:54 PM   #49 
        - Kerry Says Dean Has No Chance Vs. Bush  TDubyaA   Dec-28-03 10:18 AM   #53 
  - Nope. Reagan took away Carter's only issue--Populism.  John_H   Dec-23-03 09:08 PM   #36 
  - Reagan was/is an illusion, created by our right wing corporate media  saywhat   Dec-23-03 10:55 PM   #39 
  - Uh no  Scoopie   Dec-24-03 01:06 AM   #42 
  - Stop the comparisons!  amyforclark04   Dec-24-03 01:12 AM   #43 
  - 2000/2004  TDubyaA   Dec-24-03 08:31 PM   #48 
     - Dean/McCain  TDubyaA   Dec-25-03 07:40 AM   #50 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-24-03 06:23 AM   #44 
  - anyone ever read "why I want to bleep ronald reagan"  amazona   Dec-24-03 02:05 PM   #46 
     - quick kick  amazona   Dec-25-03 12:54 PM   #51 
 

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