WilliamPitt
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Mon Jan-19-04 03:46 PM
Response to Reply #49 |
| 54. Ideals without victory |
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Edited on Mon Jan-19-04 03:47 PM by WilliamPitt
are useful for feeling good about oneself, etc. Without the ability to transfer ideals into policy by way of victory, ideals themselves don't have a lot of muscle. Sad but true.
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| -Raise your hand: Think other campaigns don't have delegate-swap plans? |
WilliamPitt |
Jan-19-04 02:56 PM |
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*does not raise hand* |
Cuban_Liberal |
Jan-19-04 02:57 PM |
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I'm sure they do |
CMT |
Jan-19-04 02:58 PM |
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It's not the strategy that's puzzling |
Lobo_13 |
Jan-19-04 02:58 PM |
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Perhaps |
WilliamPitt |
Jan-19-04 03:00 PM |
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Yep, that's what I think. |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Jan-19-04 03:02 PM |
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But why do anything? |
Lobo_13 |
Jan-19-04 03:04 PM |
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It DOES help him and |
steviet_2003 |
Jan-19-04 03:56 PM |
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Hm, interesting points. |
Clark4VotingRights |
Jan-19-04 03:50 PM |
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Kucinich is not a one dimentional candidate |
arewethereyet |
Jan-19-04 03:12 PM |
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K has his priorities in order. He can trump War and Class, and chooses.... |
AP |
Jan-19-04 03:28 PM |
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Anyone who's going to fall apart because |
DemBones DemBones |
Jan-19-04 03:44 PM |
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thank you |
WhoCountsTheVotes |
Jan-19-04 02:58 PM |
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The problem is Dennis Kucinich spending months claiming he didn't do this |
helleborient |
Jan-19-04 02:59 PM |
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when did DK claim he didn't do delegate swaps at cacuses? |
WhoCountsTheVotes |
Jan-19-04 03:02 PM |
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Speaking for myself, yes, I would question that as will... |
helleborient |
Jan-19-04 03:11 PM |
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Kucinich himself has always claimed being a pragmatist |
ZombyWoof |
Jan-19-04 03:48 PM |
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Many supporters of Dennis claim he's an idealist, not a pragmatist... |
helleborient |
Jan-19-04 03:11 PM |
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of course Dennis is a pragmatist |
WhoCountsTheVotes |
Jan-19-04 03:16 PM |
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You have created DK in your own image. Many other DK supporters |
stickdog |
Jan-19-04 03:20 PM |
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my take |
OhioStateProgressive |
Jan-19-04 03:35 PM |
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Hmm, and Dean supporters haven't |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Jan-19-04 03:38 PM |
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Then go argue with plenty of others who support DK and lectured me |
helleborient |
Jan-19-04 03:26 PM |
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Kucinich voters are STILL voting for Kucinich |
WhoCountsTheVotes |
Jan-19-04 03:31 PM |
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he's a pragmatist |
goodhue |
Jan-19-04 03:17 PM |
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Who said the two have to be mutually exclusive? |
rucky |
Jan-19-04 03:35 PM |
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At a caucus |
Nadienne |
Jan-19-04 03:31 PM |
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You gotta link? Or is that based on the strength of your punditry? |
HereSince1628 |
Jan-19-04 02:59 PM |
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Link |
WilliamPitt |
Jan-19-04 03:01 PM |
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All jokes aside, here's a link: Dean caucusers swapping to Kerry? |
WilliamPitt |
Jan-19-04 03:04 PM |
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I see that one. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Jan-19-04 03:05 PM |
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I'll debunk this right now |
Lobo_13 |
Jan-19-04 03:05 PM |
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'K |
WilliamPitt |
Jan-19-04 03:06 PM |
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And I agree |
Lobo_13 |
Jan-19-04 03:10 PM |
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I disagree that DK backers have Dean as a 2nd ... |
AnAmerican |
Jan-19-04 03:20 PM |
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not only that |
ZombyWoof |
Jan-19-04 03:52 PM |
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Thanks for supporting Dennis is a politician just like the others... |
helleborient |
Jan-19-04 03:13 PM |
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Do you know what your sniping sounds like? |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Jan-19-04 03:44 PM |
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Do you know if cell phones are going to be allowed in the caucus? |
HereSince1628 |
Jan-19-04 03:46 PM |
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That seems an unneccessarily rude way of asking. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Jan-19-04 03:04 PM |
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Will is quite capable of playing with academics |
HereSince1628 |
Jan-19-04 03:09 PM |
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It wasn't support. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Jan-19-04 03:14 PM |
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sorry, I forgot I was in GD04P |
HereSince1628 |
Jan-19-04 03:26 PM |
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Jerk |
WilliamPitt |
Jan-19-04 03:27 PM |
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Erudite |
HereSince1628 |
Jan-19-04 03:47 PM |
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Well said Will |
AnAmerican |
Jan-19-04 03:00 PM |
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I make no claims |
mmonk |
Jan-19-04 03:01 PM |
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*not raising hand* |
goodhue |
Jan-19-04 03:02 PM |
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"Politics is not about issues and ideology" is not just a slogan |
DuctapeFatwa |
Jan-19-04 03:08 PM |
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Many DK supporters are just now |
stickdog |
Jan-19-04 03:17 PM |
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Call it cynicism if you like. Others prefer to call it |
DuctapeFatwa |
Jan-19-04 03:40 PM |
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Other candidates aren't courting true believer anti-war progressives |
stickdog |
Jan-19-04 03:15 PM |
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Whether they do or do not is irrelevant |
Walt Starr |
Jan-19-04 03:20 PM |
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Of course they do, but they do not issue press releases |
GumboYaYa |
Jan-19-04 03:21 PM |
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press release |
goodhue |
Jan-19-04 03:38 PM |
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Well this is a very weird development... |
edzontar |
Jan-19-04 03:33 PM |
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"Naivete"? |
Gman |
Jan-19-04 03:35 PM |
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Thank you, Will |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Jan-19-04 03:36 PM |
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more importantly...stop thinking that politics is about ideals |
Terwilliger |
Jan-19-04 03:41 PM |
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Ideals without victory |
WilliamPitt |
Jan-19-04 03:46 PM |
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And the victory of putting a Democratic face on the PNAC strategies |
DuctapeFatwa |
Jan-19-04 04:00 PM |
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Edwards is my #2 |
ZombyWoof |
Jan-19-04 03:46 PM |
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No I don't |
Sly Kal |
Jan-19-04 03:52 PM |
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