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153. Define moderate. I used to define myself as moderate until discussion
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  -Wake up call-- Moderates and Conservatives outnumber Liberals in Dem Party Mike L  Nov-16-04 08:15 PM   #0 
  - In other words, 'does it make a flying fig of a difference?'  HypnoToad   Nov-16-04 08:17 PM   #1 
  - First, let's define what it truly means to be liberal, which is this...  Clarkie1   Nov-20-04 03:54 PM   #176 
  - My views, while spread across the spectrum, would make....  PROGRESSIVE1   Nov-16-04 08:17 PM   #2 
  - Apparently I am a "moderate" Democrat also  Blue State Native   Nov-18-04 05:49 PM   #135 
  - WRONG: ON ALL THE ISSUES, DEMS ARE ABOUT 90% LIBERAL  genius   Nov-16-04 08:18 PM   #3 
  - So that's why we don't need to go "to the left".  LoZoccolo   Nov-16-04 08:27 PM   #11 
  - Yeah, I'd actually like to win a few.  Mike L   Nov-16-04 08:38 PM   #22 
  - So would I  Forkboy   Nov-16-04 10:08 PM   #35 
     - when people start feeling the pain of a neo-con controlled gov't.  Iris   Nov-18-04 05:17 PM   #128 
        - Millions already are  Forkboy   Nov-19-04 09:30 AM   #154 
           - Yeah, but wait until the people who are barely hanging on to  Iris   Nov-19-04 04:25 PM   #173 
  - No, "we" in the rank in file don't have to go to the left  deutsey   Nov-17-04 11:47 AM   #65 
  - yeah... "heads i win, tails you lose"  rman   Nov-17-04 07:33 PM   #107 
  - Most Dems voted to ban gay marriage  ventvon   Nov-17-04 08:59 AM   #53 
     - how can you suppor t choice and then say "not have an  Iris   Nov-18-04 05:19 PM   #129 
        - Damn! I replied to the same dead guy twice! eom  Iris   Nov-18-04 07:05 PM   #141 
  - To Kill a Mockingbird  Xipe Totec   Nov-16-04 08:19 PM   #4 
  - So what is the official difference between a moderate and a liberal?  FloridaPat   Nov-16-04 08:20 PM   #5 
  - I call myself a moderate on polls if asked.  madfloridian   Nov-16-04 08:21 PM   #6 
  - So did I, and was called "an enemy of the state."  tsuki   Nov-18-04 05:45 PM   #133 
  - 67% to 30%  tk2kewl   Nov-16-04 08:21 PM   #7 
  - ROFLMPAO!!!! I identify myself as a moderate TO POLLSTERS!!!  Walt Starr   Nov-16-04 08:24 PM   #8 
  - So do I!  party_line   Nov-16-04 08:28 PM   #12 
  - I always tell posters I'm a moderate too  sugar magnolia   Nov-16-04 08:36 PM   #19 
  - Hi sugar magnolia!!  newyawker99   Nov-18-04 08:49 AM   #112 
  - So do I  Jen6   Nov-16-04 09:03 PM   #32 
  - So do I  Jen6   Nov-16-04 09:28 PM   #33 
     - You're serious?  KuTava   Nov-16-04 10:28 PM   #40 
        - I'm not sure what you mean by that.  trogdor   Nov-17-04 08:50 AM   #50 
        - I tell them the truth!  Walt Starr   Nov-17-04 08:53 AM   #51 
        - I agree. Our Democratic positions are already moderate.  Starlight   Nov-20-04 06:40 PM   #178 
        - Hi KuTava!!  newyawker99   Nov-18-04 08:49 AM   #113 
        - It's none of their d*mned business.  tsuki   Nov-18-04 05:47 PM   #134 
  - Wow, and yet they continue to lose elections!  Coyul   Nov-16-04 08:24 PM   #9 
  - They continue to lose because they continue to run liberal candidates,  Mike L   Nov-16-04 08:30 PM   #16 
  - WOW, and you really believe that don't ya?  Coyul   Nov-16-04 08:37 PM   #20 
  - I know where you /don't/ live, and that's Illinois.  LoZoccolo   Nov-16-04 08:49 PM   #27 
  - "The only dems to win this time around were those left of the mark."  Mike L   Nov-16-04 08:54 PM   #29 
  - Yep...and where did the moderates win?  Coyul   Nov-16-04 10:16 PM   #39 
     - Hey, I don't think blue state Dems should become moderates.  Mike L   Nov-17-04 08:50 AM   #49 
  - McKinney won / moderates lost big time  Cheswick2.0   Nov-17-04 02:46 PM   #86 
  - Most Dem moderates today are to the right of Nixon  Lydia Leftcoast   Nov-16-04 10:04 PM   #34 
     - exactly  evilqueen   Nov-20-04 04:13 PM   #177 
  - Oh goodie, a multi-front war --  LittleClarkie   Nov-16-04 08:38 PM   #21 
  - You know what?  Coyul   Nov-16-04 08:49 PM   #28 
  - Kerry was not perceived as a moderate  greenohio   Nov-19-04 09:46 AM   #160 
  - After a day on DU I'd probably consider myself moderate....  vi5   Nov-16-04 08:26 PM   #10 
  - OMG - thank you!  lukasahero   Nov-17-04 09:42 AM   #61 
  - Same here  GRLMGC   Nov-17-04 09:06 PM   #110 
  - Self Identify being the key words there  Djinn   Nov-16-04 08:29 PM   #13 
  - I think those numbers are suspect  YankeyMCC   Nov-16-04 08:29 PM   #14 
  - Be REALLY careful of these statistics.  aquart   Nov-16-04 08:29 PM   #15 
  - I think this is very interesting information...  DjTj   Nov-16-04 08:34 PM   #17 
  - Moderates and Liberals VASTLY Outnumber Conservatives in America  GiovanniC   Nov-16-04 08:35 PM   #18 
  - 2+2=5 n/t  LoZoccolo   Nov-16-04 08:46 PM   #25 
  - How nice of the opinion makers to dump on the progressives  IndianaGreen   Nov-16-04 08:40 PM   #23 
  - Yes, I do  quaker bill   Nov-16-04 08:45 PM   #24 
  - There are lies, damn lies....  greatauntoftriplets   Nov-16-04 08:49 PM   #26 
  - According to latest polls, Dick Cheney is actually a liberal republican.  Zorra   Nov-16-04 08:56 PM   #30 
  - What about Dems losing their party identification lead  Mike L   Nov-16-04 08:58 PM   #31 
  - The level of denial astounds me  sangh0   Nov-16-04 10:10 PM   #36 
  - It's all them crazy libruls they've been running  Forkboy   Nov-16-04 10:11 PM   #37 
  - Right-- McGovern, Mondale, Dukakis, Kerry  Mike L   Nov-17-04 08:45 AM   #46 
  - Having been around in the 1970s, I explain it by  Lydia Leftcoast   Nov-16-04 10:13 PM   #38 
     - Hummm........so McGovern, Mondale, Dukakis, Kerry weren't liberal enough.  Mike L   Nov-17-04 10:58 AM   #63 
     - You seem to be a one-note samba on this board  Lydia Leftcoast   Nov-17-04 01:04 PM   #67 
     - If Cuomo hadn't played hard-to-get in 1988  charlie   Nov-17-04 01:25 PM   #69 
     - Cuomo Lost To An Asshat Like Pataki...  DemocratSinceBirth   Nov-19-04 10:02 AM   #166 
        - And Nixon was whupped by Brown  charlie   Nov-19-04 10:11 AM   #168 
     - Lydia, your excuses don't withstand scrutiny.  Mike L   Nov-17-04 01:50 PM   #70 
        - Dukakis was NOT a liberal, nor was Mondale.  no name no slogan   Nov-17-04 02:13 PM   #73 
        - As far as the country is concerned, any Dem from Massachusetts is a  Mike L   Nov-17-04 02:29 PM   #79 
        - So, you're admitting that we have a PERCEPTION and not a fundamental  ibegurpard   Nov-17-04 04:00 PM   #106 
           - No, Dukakis and Mondale were solid liberals  sangh0   Nov-18-04 09:32 AM   #117 
        - Both Dukakis and Mondale were liberals.  Julien Sorel   Nov-18-04 09:05 AM   #114 
        - Gary Hart Was Not The "Liberal" Candidate In 1984....  DemocratSinceBirth   Nov-19-04 08:24 AM   #145 
           - Gary Hart  Blue Wally   Nov-19-04 10:15 AM   #169 
        - exuses?  Cheswick2.0   Nov-17-04 02:28 PM   #78 
        - That's your opinion, but you don't seem to have any excuses at all for  Lydia Leftcoast   Nov-17-04 10:34 PM   #111 
           - You are very, very wrong about that  sangh0   Nov-18-04 04:55 PM   #125 
              - Hitler was a great actor too.  Mike L   Nov-18-04 05:24 PM   #130 
              - Yes, he was  sangh0   Nov-18-04 08:08 PM   #143 
              - Wrong, without Rove all would have been lost for Bush.  tsuki   Nov-18-04 05:56 PM   #136 
     - Gore won when he went left/populist  Cheswick2.0   Nov-17-04 02:22 PM   #76 
        - EXACTLY the OPPOSITE  greenohio   Nov-19-04 09:22 AM   #148 
           - Nope  Cheswick2.0   Nov-19-04 09:23 AM   #149 
           - From Clintons MY LIFE....  greenohio   Nov-19-04 09:50 AM   #162 
           - Pfft  charlie   Nov-19-04 09:51 AM   #163 
              - Gore never became president.  greenohio   Nov-19-04 09:53 AM   #164 
     - Not necessarily only Republican propaganda  Blue Wally   Nov-19-04 10:09 AM   #167 
  - On DU, I'm a moderate  ZombieNixon   Nov-16-04 10:41 PM   #41 
  - Comparatively speaking, I'm moderate too  LittleClarkie   Nov-16-04 11:39 PM   #44 
  - Liberalism is a bygone ideology of a bygone era (the industrial era).  xequals   Nov-16-04 11:05 PM   #42 
  - The problem is...  YankeyMCC   Nov-17-04 08:03 AM   #45 
  - yes. And we aren't going to create even roughly equal footing  Iris   Nov-18-04 06:21 PM   #137 
  - I would like to address one term in your post: urban welfare  End of all Hope   Nov-17-04 02:54 PM   #90 
  - Kick. Post of the week.  bettys boy   Nov-20-04 03:05 PM   #174 
  - This is GOPer thinking at its worst  sampsonblk   Nov-16-04 11:11 PM   #43 
  - "Repubs always campaign on personal characteristics, religion and greed."  Mike L   Nov-17-04 09:01 AM   #56 
  - Apparently here if you call yourself a New Democrat...  greenohio   Nov-19-04 09:48 AM   #161 
  - Ahhh, clear message to Liberal Activists who worked their asses off in '04  Walt Starr   Nov-17-04 08:46 AM   #47 
  - Can I go with you?  Iris   Nov-18-04 06:22 PM   #138 
     - Think green  greenohio   Nov-19-04 09:25 AM   #150 
  - Wake up call to you  ibegurpard   Nov-17-04 08:49 AM   #48 
  - Clinton was a DLC New Democrat and won twice  greenohio   Nov-19-04 09:26 AM   #152 
  - Duh  ventvon   Nov-17-04 08:57 AM   #52 
  - woah...major ugliness and mysogeny in this post  Cheswick2.0   Nov-17-04 02:43 PM   #83 
  - Tell me  ventvon   Nov-17-04 03:04 PM   #98 
     - so men CAN"T be responsible so women have to be?  Cheswick2.0   Nov-17-04 03:48 PM   #105 
  - Hmm. . . I feel like having an abortion today. Problem is  Iris   Nov-18-04 06:23 PM   #139 
     - Dammit!!!! I replied to a freakin' tombstone!!!  Iris   Nov-18-04 06:28 PM   #140 
        - LOL... sorry, but apparently someone couldn't stand having him around  Cheswick2.0   Nov-19-04 09:26 AM   #151 
  - Well, then I quit the Dems. I will never become a cruel, warmongering,  leesa   Nov-17-04 09:00 AM   #54 
  - Neither are most of the people who voted for Bush, duh  ventvon   Nov-17-04 09:23 AM   #58 
  - Definition of a "Liberal"  PatrioticOhioLiberal   Nov-17-04 09:00 AM   #55 
  - As usual  ventvon   Nov-17-04 09:03 AM   #57 
     - He wasn't defining "liberal"  YankeyMCC   Nov-17-04 09:27 AM   #59 
     - The heading  PatrioticOhioLiberal   Nov-17-04 09:38 AM   #60 
  - yeah, no surprise  Mandate_My_Ass   Nov-17-04 09:43 AM   #62 
  - Hell Yes! What's a moderate?  Armstead2   Nov-17-04 11:05 AM   #64 
  - going to the right or left will not win elections  sonicx   Nov-17-04 11:48 AM   #66 
  - I agree. Moderation is the way to go, and it isn't selling out! nt  vet_against_Bush   Nov-17-04 01:06 PM   #68 
  - Good luck winning without liberal Democrats..we did the work this past  nothingshocksmeanymore   Nov-17-04 02:00 PM   #71 
  - It seems kinda selfish that "liberal Dems" would drop out simply because  Mike L   Nov-17-04 02:10 PM   #72 
  - WHERE THE FUCK HAVE YOU BEEN...IS THERE A LIVING WAGE LAW?  nothingshocksmeanymore   Nov-17-04 02:26 PM   #77 
  - Thanks. I feel more enlightened since I read your post.  Mike L   Nov-17-04 02:36 PM   #81 
     - well maybe they did  NewYorkerfromMass   Nov-17-04 02:41 PM   #82 
     - Then that means you didn't read my post. Nice obtuse response  nothingshocksmeanymore   Nov-17-04 02:45 PM   #84 
     - Actually, I did fudge a little.  Mike L   Nov-17-04 02:53 PM   #88 
        - Nor did he campaign for living wage..btw...why all the haranging of  nothingshocksmeanymore   Nov-17-04 03:03 PM   #96 
     - He did not campaign on all those issues  Cheswick2.0   Nov-17-04 02:55 PM   #92 
  - hey Mike, I have been asking you "moderates" to answer a question  Cheswick2.0   Nov-17-04 02:52 PM   #87 
     - None. And I won't have to. You won't either.  Mike L   Nov-17-04 03:05 PM   #99 
        - nice side later arabesque  Cheswick2.0   Nov-17-04 03:09 PM   #103 
        - Typical squishy centrist copout  Forkboy   Nov-21-04 10:28 PM   #180 
  - So? How's that working out for ya?  Cheswick2.0   Nov-17-04 02:19 PM   #75 
  - Clinton won first time because of Perot  classicfilmfan   Nov-17-04 02:17 PM   #74 
  - Ah...the tyranny of the majority...  Q   Nov-17-04 02:33 PM   #80 
  - go left? I just want them to act like Democrats  WI_DEM   Nov-17-04 02:46 PM   #85 
  - I wish most Americans would take time to study the issues.  Mike L   Nov-17-04 02:55 PM   #91 
  - exactly. just grow a damn backbone, and dont try to out-repub the pubs.  UpsideDownFlag   Nov-17-04 03:08 PM   #101 
  - Kerry did better than Gore.Progressive views are the way to go!!!  LimpingLib   Nov-17-04 02:53 PM   #89 
  - Sorry, Gore got more EVs than Kerry. Kerry lost IA and NM.  Mike L   Nov-17-04 03:00 PM   #93 
     - Compared to the national average , Kerry beat Clinton and Gore in Iowa, NM  LimpingLib   Nov-17-04 03:03 PM   #97 
        - Fun with numbers...  greenohio   Nov-19-04 09:31 AM   #155 
  - I think I am just  Justathought   Nov-17-04 03:01 PM   #94 
  - What do you mean by "go left"?  Bridget Burke   Nov-17-04 03:02 PM   #95 
  - Go left on some issues  Justathought   Nov-17-04 03:08 PM   #102 
     - How the goddam hell would you know why any given woman has an abortion?  eridani   Nov-19-04 08:00 AM   #144 
  - you think people'd call themselves anarcho-communist vegan hippies....  UpsideDownFlag   Nov-17-04 03:07 PM   #100 
  - So have we figured out  Beacho   Nov-17-04 03:10 PM   #104 
  - And 75% of Americans have no clue  TorchesAndPitchforks   Nov-17-04 07:53 PM   #108 
  - fine then. you don't need a coalition w/ the left, then do it yourselves.  ulysses   Nov-17-04 08:28 PM   #109 
  - Inch to the center and win, or vote green  greenohio   Nov-19-04 09:33 AM   #156 
     - heh - I've already voted Green twice  ulysses   Nov-20-04 03:23 PM   #175 
  - so?  Cheswick2.0   Nov-18-04 09:09 AM   #115 
  - and that has anything to do with most issues because...?  salin   Nov-18-04 09:11 AM   #116 
  - Hey Mike..when you get back to your little flamefest check this out  nothingshocksmeanymore   Nov-18-04 11:28 AM   #120 
     - Hi nothingshocksmeanymore. I agree with everything Salin said,  Mike L   Nov-18-04 04:40 PM   #124 
  - question - on the linked issue  salin   Nov-18-04 09:35 AM   #118 
  - Absolutely not.  Mike L   Nov-18-04 05:09 PM   #126 
  - Not by using the Republicans definition of moderate and conservative,  unfrigginreal   Nov-18-04 09:55 AM   #119 
  - Wake up Liberals and Progressives, if the Republican Lite of our party  bacchant   Nov-18-04 11:48 AM   #121 
  - Are you the same guys beating the crud out of greens a few weeks ago?  greenohio   Nov-19-04 09:38 AM   #158 
  - Being a Democrat is being Liberal  sunnystarr   Nov-18-04 11:53 AM   #122 
  - Great post...  Q   Nov-18-04 12:25 PM   #123 
  - If they lose 30% of the vote by going left,  Iris   Nov-18-04 05:11 PM   #127 
  - And THAT... Is The Conundrum !!!  WillyT   Nov-18-04 05:35 PM   #131 
  - Did you hate Clinton?  greenohio   Nov-19-04 09:42 AM   #159 
     - No... But I Hated When He Ran Home To AK To Execute A Retarded Man So...  WillyT   Nov-21-04 07:00 PM   #179 
        - lol  Forkboy   Nov-21-04 10:29 PM   #181 
  - Going left going left going left going left...  Q   Nov-19-04 08:38 AM   #147 
  - Here we go again with the label, label, label.  tsuki   Nov-18-04 05:42 PM   #132 
  - Wake up call-- Liberals Do 90% of the Work and Give 90% of the Cash  David Zephyr   Nov-18-04 07:54 PM   #142 
  - We Throw Around Too Many Labels...  DemocratSinceBirth   Nov-19-04 08:32 AM   #146 
  - Define moderate. I used to define myself as moderate until discussion  MrsGrumpy   Nov-19-04 09:29 AM   #153 
  - It's Not Our Issues As Much As How We Talk About Them...  DemocratSinceBirth   Nov-19-04 09:35 AM   #157 
  - Moderates and Conservatives outnumber Liberals in Dem Party  NoPasaran   Nov-19-04 10:02 AM   #165 
  - You don't have to be a liberal to oppose the Iraq War  Mike L   Nov-19-04 12:27 PM   #170 
  - You could also say that Moderates and Liberals outweigh conservatives  fob   Nov-19-04 01:25 PM   #171 
  - Of Course MSM Says Kerry Was Most Liberal Senator  Razorback_Democrat   Nov-19-04 01:30 PM   #172 
  - Moderates rarely lead anything  bloom   Nov-21-04 10:44 PM   #182 
 

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