| 105. so men CAN"T be responsible so women have to be? |
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Guess what, we are.
Do you really think women have late term abortions because they just decide they don't want to be pregnant? Stick around and educate yourself. There are plenty of smart people here who will explain to you how wrong your are. I don't have the patience right now.
For my part I would like to suggest we make all men give semen deposits and then sterilize them. Later on if they get married and want to have children and the woman agrees, they can unfreeze a sperm pop and have at it. But in the meantime selfish men who can't control themselves, won't be able to put women in the position of being pregnant in the first place.
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| -Wake up call-- Moderates and Conservatives outnumber Liberals in Dem Party |
Mike L |
Nov-16-04 08:15 PM |
#0 |
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In other words, 'does it make a flying fig of a difference?' |
HypnoToad |
Nov-16-04 08:17 PM |
#1 |
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First, let's define what it truly means to be liberal, which is this... |
Clarkie1 |
Nov-20-04 03:54 PM |
#176 |
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My views, while spread across the spectrum, would make.... |
PROGRESSIVE1 |
Nov-16-04 08:17 PM |
#2 |
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Apparently I am a "moderate" Democrat also |
Blue State Native |
Nov-18-04 05:49 PM |
#135 |
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WRONG: ON ALL THE ISSUES, DEMS ARE ABOUT 90% LIBERAL |
genius |
Nov-16-04 08:18 PM |
#3 |
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So that's why we don't need to go "to the left". |
LoZoccolo |
Nov-16-04 08:27 PM |
#11 |
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Yeah, I'd actually like to win a few. |
Mike L |
Nov-16-04 08:38 PM |
#22 |
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So would I |
Forkboy |
Nov-16-04 10:08 PM |
#35 |
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when people start feeling the pain of a neo-con controlled gov't. |
Iris |
Nov-18-04 05:17 PM |
#128 |
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Millions already are |
Forkboy |
Nov-19-04 09:30 AM |
#154 |
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Yeah, but wait until the people who are barely hanging on to |
Iris |
Nov-19-04 04:25 PM |
#173 |
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No, "we" in the rank in file don't have to go to the left |
deutsey |
Nov-17-04 11:47 AM |
#65 |
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yeah... "heads i win, tails you lose" |
rman |
Nov-17-04 07:33 PM |
#107 |
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Most Dems voted to ban gay marriage |
ventvon |
Nov-17-04 08:59 AM |
#53 |
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how can you suppor t choice and then say "not have an |
Iris |
Nov-18-04 05:19 PM |
#129 |
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Damn! I replied to the same dead guy twice! eom |
Iris |
Nov-18-04 07:05 PM |
#141 |
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To Kill a Mockingbird |
Xipe Totec |
Nov-16-04 08:19 PM |
#4 |
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So what is the official difference between a moderate and a liberal? |
FloridaPat |
Nov-16-04 08:20 PM |
#5 |
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I call myself a moderate on polls if asked. |
madfloridian |
Nov-16-04 08:21 PM |
#6 |
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So did I, and was called "an enemy of the state." |
tsuki |
Nov-18-04 05:45 PM |
#133 |
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67% to 30% |
tk2kewl |
Nov-16-04 08:21 PM |
#7 |
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ROFLMPAO!!!! I identify myself as a moderate TO POLLSTERS!!! |
Walt Starr |
Nov-16-04 08:24 PM |
#8 |
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So do I! |
party_line |
Nov-16-04 08:28 PM |
#12 |
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I always tell posters I'm a moderate too |
sugar magnolia |
Nov-16-04 08:36 PM |
#19 |
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Hi sugar magnolia!! |
newyawker99 |
Nov-18-04 08:49 AM |
#112 |
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So do I |
Jen6 |
Nov-16-04 09:03 PM |
#32 |
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So do I |
Jen6 |
Nov-16-04 09:28 PM |
#33 |
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You're serious? |
KuTava |
Nov-16-04 10:28 PM |
#40 |
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I'm not sure what you mean by that. |
trogdor |
Nov-17-04 08:50 AM |
#50 |
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I tell them the truth! |
Walt Starr |
Nov-17-04 08:53 AM |
#51 |
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I agree. Our Democratic positions are already moderate. |
Starlight |
Nov-20-04 06:40 PM |
#178 |
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Hi KuTava!! |
newyawker99 |
Nov-18-04 08:49 AM |
#113 |
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It's none of their d*mned business. |
tsuki |
Nov-18-04 05:47 PM |
#134 |
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Wow, and yet they continue to lose elections! |
Coyul |
Nov-16-04 08:24 PM |
#9 |
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They continue to lose because they continue to run liberal candidates, |
Mike L |
Nov-16-04 08:30 PM |
#16 |
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WOW, and you really believe that don't ya? |
Coyul |
Nov-16-04 08:37 PM |
#20 |
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I know where you /don't/ live, and that's Illinois. |
LoZoccolo |
Nov-16-04 08:49 PM |
#27 |
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"The only dems to win this time around were those left of the mark." |
Mike L |
Nov-16-04 08:54 PM |
#29 |
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Yep...and where did the moderates win? |
Coyul |
Nov-16-04 10:16 PM |
#39 |
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Hey, I don't think blue state Dems should become moderates. |
Mike L |
Nov-17-04 08:50 AM |
#49 |
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McKinney won / moderates lost big time |
Cheswick2.0 |
Nov-17-04 02:46 PM |
#86 |
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Most Dem moderates today are to the right of Nixon |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Nov-16-04 10:04 PM |
#34 |
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exactly |
evilqueen |
Nov-20-04 04:13 PM |
#177 |
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Oh goodie, a multi-front war -- |
LittleClarkie |
Nov-16-04 08:38 PM |
#21 |
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You know what? |
Coyul |
Nov-16-04 08:49 PM |
#28 |
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Kerry was not perceived as a moderate |
greenohio |
Nov-19-04 09:46 AM |
#160 |
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After a day on DU I'd probably consider myself moderate.... |
vi5 |
Nov-16-04 08:26 PM |
#10 |
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OMG - thank you! |
lukasahero |
Nov-17-04 09:42 AM |
#61 |
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Same here |
GRLMGC |
Nov-17-04 09:06 PM |
#110 |
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Self Identify being the key words there |
Djinn |
Nov-16-04 08:29 PM |
#13 |
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I think those numbers are suspect |
YankeyMCC |
Nov-16-04 08:29 PM |
#14 |
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Be REALLY careful of these statistics. |
aquart |
Nov-16-04 08:29 PM |
#15 |
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I think this is very interesting information... |
DjTj |
Nov-16-04 08:34 PM |
#17 |
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Moderates and Liberals VASTLY Outnumber Conservatives in America |
GiovanniC |
Nov-16-04 08:35 PM |
#18 |
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2+2=5 n/t |
LoZoccolo |
Nov-16-04 08:46 PM |
#25 |
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How nice of the opinion makers to dump on the progressives |
IndianaGreen |
Nov-16-04 08:40 PM |
#23 |
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Yes, I do |
quaker bill |
Nov-16-04 08:45 PM |
#24 |
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There are lies, damn lies.... |
greatauntoftriplets |
Nov-16-04 08:49 PM |
#26 |
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According to latest polls, Dick Cheney is actually a liberal republican. |
Zorra |
Nov-16-04 08:56 PM |
#30 |
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What about Dems losing their party identification lead |
Mike L |
Nov-16-04 08:58 PM |
#31 |
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The level of denial astounds me |
sangh0 |
Nov-16-04 10:10 PM |
#36 |
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It's all them crazy libruls they've been running |
Forkboy |
Nov-16-04 10:11 PM |
#37 |
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Right-- McGovern, Mondale, Dukakis, Kerry |
Mike L |
Nov-17-04 08:45 AM |
#46 |
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Having been around in the 1970s, I explain it by |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Nov-16-04 10:13 PM |
#38 |
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Hummm........so McGovern, Mondale, Dukakis, Kerry weren't liberal enough. |
Mike L |
Nov-17-04 10:58 AM |
#63 |
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You seem to be a one-note samba on this board |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Nov-17-04 01:04 PM |
#67 |
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If Cuomo hadn't played hard-to-get in 1988 |
charlie |
Nov-17-04 01:25 PM |
#69 |
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Cuomo Lost To An Asshat Like Pataki... |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Nov-19-04 10:02 AM |
#166 |
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And Nixon was whupped by Brown |
charlie |
Nov-19-04 10:11 AM |
#168 |
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Lydia, your excuses don't withstand scrutiny. |
Mike L |
Nov-17-04 01:50 PM |
#70 |
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Dukakis was NOT a liberal, nor was Mondale. |
no name no slogan |
Nov-17-04 02:13 PM |
#73 |
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As far as the country is concerned, any Dem from Massachusetts is a |
Mike L |
Nov-17-04 02:29 PM |
#79 |
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So, you're admitting that we have a PERCEPTION and not a fundamental |
ibegurpard |
Nov-17-04 04:00 PM |
#106 |
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No, Dukakis and Mondale were solid liberals |
sangh0 |
Nov-18-04 09:32 AM |
#117 |
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Both Dukakis and Mondale were liberals. |
Julien Sorel |
Nov-18-04 09:05 AM |
#114 |
| -
Gary Hart Was Not The "Liberal" Candidate In 1984.... |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Nov-19-04 08:24 AM |
#145 |
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Gary Hart |
Blue Wally |
Nov-19-04 10:15 AM |
#169 |
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exuses? |
Cheswick2.0 |
Nov-17-04 02:28 PM |
#78 |
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That's your opinion, but you don't seem to have any excuses at all for |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Nov-17-04 10:34 PM |
#111 |
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You are very, very wrong about that |
sangh0 |
Nov-18-04 04:55 PM |
#125 |
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Hitler was a great actor too. |
Mike L |
Nov-18-04 05:24 PM |
#130 |
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Yes, he was |
sangh0 |
Nov-18-04 08:08 PM |
#143 |
| -
Wrong, without Rove all would have been lost for Bush. |
tsuki |
Nov-18-04 05:56 PM |
#136 |
| -
Gore won when he went left/populist |
Cheswick2.0 |
Nov-17-04 02:22 PM |
#76 |
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EXACTLY the OPPOSITE |
greenohio |
Nov-19-04 09:22 AM |
#148 |
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Nope |
Cheswick2.0 |
Nov-19-04 09:23 AM |
#149 |
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From Clintons MY LIFE.... |
greenohio |
Nov-19-04 09:50 AM |
#162 |
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Pfft |
charlie |
Nov-19-04 09:51 AM |
#163 |
| -
Gore never became president. |
greenohio |
Nov-19-04 09:53 AM |
#164 |
| -
Not necessarily only Republican propaganda |
Blue Wally |
Nov-19-04 10:09 AM |
#167 |
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On DU, I'm a moderate |
ZombieNixon |
Nov-16-04 10:41 PM |
#41 |
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Comparatively speaking, I'm moderate too |
LittleClarkie |
Nov-16-04 11:39 PM |
#44 |
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Liberalism is a bygone ideology of a bygone era (the industrial era). |
xequals |
Nov-16-04 11:05 PM |
#42 |
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The problem is... |
YankeyMCC |
Nov-17-04 08:03 AM |
#45 |
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yes. And we aren't going to create even roughly equal footing |
Iris |
Nov-18-04 06:21 PM |
#137 |
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I would like to address one term in your post: urban welfare |
End of all Hope |
Nov-17-04 02:54 PM |
#90 |
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Kick. Post of the week. |
bettys boy |
Nov-20-04 03:05 PM |
#174 |
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This is GOPer thinking at its worst |
sampsonblk |
Nov-16-04 11:11 PM |
#43 |
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"Repubs always campaign on personal characteristics, religion and greed." |
Mike L |
Nov-17-04 09:01 AM |
#56 |
| -
Apparently here if you call yourself a New Democrat... |
greenohio |
Nov-19-04 09:48 AM |
#161 |
| -
Ahhh, clear message to Liberal Activists who worked their asses off in '04 |
Walt Starr |
Nov-17-04 08:46 AM |
#47 |
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Can I go with you? |
Iris |
Nov-18-04 06:22 PM |
#138 |
| -
Think green |
greenohio |
Nov-19-04 09:25 AM |
#150 |
| -
Wake up call to you |
ibegurpard |
Nov-17-04 08:49 AM |
#48 |
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Clinton was a DLC New Democrat and won twice |
greenohio |
Nov-19-04 09:26 AM |
#152 |
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Duh |
ventvon |
Nov-17-04 08:57 AM |
#52 |
| -
woah...major ugliness and mysogeny in this post |
Cheswick2.0 |
Nov-17-04 02:43 PM |
#83 |
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Tell me |
ventvon |
Nov-17-04 03:04 PM |
#98 |
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so men CAN"T be responsible so women have to be? |
Cheswick2.0 |
Nov-17-04 03:48 PM |
#105 |
| -
Hmm. . . I feel like having an abortion today. Problem is |
Iris |
Nov-18-04 06:23 PM |
#139 |
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Dammit!!!! I replied to a freakin' tombstone!!! |
Iris |
Nov-18-04 06:28 PM |
#140 |
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LOL... sorry, but apparently someone couldn't stand having him around |
Cheswick2.0 |
Nov-19-04 09:26 AM |
#151 |
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Well, then I quit the Dems. I will never become a cruel, warmongering, |
leesa |
Nov-17-04 09:00 AM |
#54 |
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Neither are most of the people who voted for Bush, duh |
ventvon |
Nov-17-04 09:23 AM |
#58 |
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Definition of a "Liberal" |
PatrioticOhioLiberal |
Nov-17-04 09:00 AM |
#55 |
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As usual |
ventvon |
Nov-17-04 09:03 AM |
#57 |
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He wasn't defining "liberal" |
YankeyMCC |
Nov-17-04 09:27 AM |
#59 |
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The heading |
PatrioticOhioLiberal |
Nov-17-04 09:38 AM |
#60 |
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yeah, no surprise |
Mandate_My_Ass |
Nov-17-04 09:43 AM |
#62 |
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Hell Yes! What's a moderate? |
Armstead2 |
Nov-17-04 11:05 AM |
#64 |
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going to the right or left will not win elections |
sonicx |
Nov-17-04 11:48 AM |
#66 |
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I agree. Moderation is the way to go, and it isn't selling out! nt |
vet_against_Bush |
Nov-17-04 01:06 PM |
#68 |
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Good luck winning without liberal Democrats..we did the work this past |
nothingshocksmeanymore |
Nov-17-04 02:00 PM |
#71 |
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It seems kinda selfish that "liberal Dems" would drop out simply because |
Mike L |
Nov-17-04 02:10 PM |
#72 |
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WHERE THE FUCK HAVE YOU BEEN...IS THERE A LIVING WAGE LAW? |
nothingshocksmeanymore |
Nov-17-04 02:26 PM |
#77 |
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Thanks. I feel more enlightened since I read your post. |
Mike L |
Nov-17-04 02:36 PM |
#81 |
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well maybe they did |
NewYorkerfromMass |
Nov-17-04 02:41 PM |
#82 |
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Then that means you didn't read my post. Nice obtuse response |
nothingshocksmeanymore |
Nov-17-04 02:45 PM |
#84 |
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Actually, I did fudge a little. |
Mike L |
Nov-17-04 02:53 PM |
#88 |
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Nor did he campaign for living wage..btw...why all the haranging of |
nothingshocksmeanymore |
Nov-17-04 03:03 PM |
#96 |
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He did not campaign on all those issues |
Cheswick2.0 |
Nov-17-04 02:55 PM |
#92 |
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hey Mike, I have been asking you "moderates" to answer a question |
Cheswick2.0 |
Nov-17-04 02:52 PM |
#87 |
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None. And I won't have to. You won't either. |
Mike L |
Nov-17-04 03:05 PM |
#99 |
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nice side later arabesque |
Cheswick2.0 |
Nov-17-04 03:09 PM |
#103 |
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Typical squishy centrist copout |
Forkboy |
Nov-21-04 10:28 PM |
#180 |
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So? How's that working out for ya? |
Cheswick2.0 |
Nov-17-04 02:19 PM |
#75 |
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Clinton won first time because of Perot |
classicfilmfan |
Nov-17-04 02:17 PM |
#74 |
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Ah...the tyranny of the majority... |
Q |
Nov-17-04 02:33 PM |
#80 |
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go left? I just want them to act like Democrats |
WI_DEM |
Nov-17-04 02:46 PM |
#85 |
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I wish most Americans would take time to study the issues. |
Mike L |
Nov-17-04 02:55 PM |
#91 |
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exactly. just grow a damn backbone, and dont try to out-repub the pubs. |
UpsideDownFlag |
Nov-17-04 03:08 PM |
#101 |
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Kerry did better than Gore.Progressive views are the way to go!!! |
LimpingLib |
Nov-17-04 02:53 PM |
#89 |
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Sorry, Gore got more EVs than Kerry. Kerry lost IA and NM. |
Mike L |
Nov-17-04 03:00 PM |
#93 |
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Compared to the national average , Kerry beat Clinton and Gore in Iowa, NM |
LimpingLib |
Nov-17-04 03:03 PM |
#97 |
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Fun with numbers... |
greenohio |
Nov-19-04 09:31 AM |
#155 |
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I think I am just |
Justathought |
Nov-17-04 03:01 PM |
#94 |
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What do you mean by "go left"? |
Bridget Burke |
Nov-17-04 03:02 PM |
#95 |
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Go left on some issues |
Justathought |
Nov-17-04 03:08 PM |
#102 |
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How the goddam hell would you know why any given woman has an abortion? |
eridani |
Nov-19-04 08:00 AM |
#144 |
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you think people'd call themselves anarcho-communist vegan hippies.... |
UpsideDownFlag |
Nov-17-04 03:07 PM |
#100 |
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So have we figured out |
Beacho |
Nov-17-04 03:10 PM |
#104 |
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And 75% of Americans have no clue |
TorchesAndPitchforks |
Nov-17-04 07:53 PM |
#108 |
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fine then. you don't need a coalition w/ the left, then do it yourselves. |
ulysses |
Nov-17-04 08:28 PM |
#109 |
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Inch to the center and win, or vote green |
greenohio |
Nov-19-04 09:33 AM |
#156 |
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heh - I've already voted Green twice |
ulysses |
Nov-20-04 03:23 PM |
#175 |
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so? |
Cheswick2.0 |
Nov-18-04 09:09 AM |
#115 |
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and that has anything to do with most issues because...? |
salin |
Nov-18-04 09:11 AM |
#116 |
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Hey Mike..when you get back to your little flamefest check this out |
nothingshocksmeanymore |
Nov-18-04 11:28 AM |
#120 |
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Hi nothingshocksmeanymore. I agree with everything Salin said, |
Mike L |
Nov-18-04 04:40 PM |
#124 |
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question - on the linked issue |
salin |
Nov-18-04 09:35 AM |
#118 |
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Absolutely not. |
Mike L |
Nov-18-04 05:09 PM |
#126 |
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Not by using the Republicans definition of moderate and conservative, |
unfrigginreal |
Nov-18-04 09:55 AM |
#119 |
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Wake up Liberals and Progressives, if the Republican Lite of our party |
bacchant |
Nov-18-04 11:48 AM |
#121 |
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Are you the same guys beating the crud out of greens a few weeks ago? |
greenohio |
Nov-19-04 09:38 AM |
#158 |
| -
Being a Democrat is being Liberal |
sunnystarr |
Nov-18-04 11:53 AM |
#122 |
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Great post... |
Q |
Nov-18-04 12:25 PM |
#123 |
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If they lose 30% of the vote by going left, |
Iris |
Nov-18-04 05:11 PM |
#127 |
| -
And THAT... Is The Conundrum !!! |
WillyT |
Nov-18-04 05:35 PM |
#131 |
| -
Did you hate Clinton? |
greenohio |
Nov-19-04 09:42 AM |
#159 |
| -
No... But I Hated When He Ran Home To AK To Execute A Retarded Man So... |
WillyT |
Nov-21-04 07:00 PM |
#179 |
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lol |
Forkboy |
Nov-21-04 10:29 PM |
#181 |
| -
Going left going left going left going left... |
Q |
Nov-19-04 08:38 AM |
#147 |
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Here we go again with the label, label, label. |
tsuki |
Nov-18-04 05:42 PM |
#132 |
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Wake up call-- Liberals Do 90% of the Work and Give 90% of the Cash |
David Zephyr |
Nov-18-04 07:54 PM |
#142 |
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We Throw Around Too Many Labels... |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Nov-19-04 08:32 AM |
#146 |
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Define moderate. I used to define myself as moderate until discussion |
MrsGrumpy |
Nov-19-04 09:29 AM |
#153 |
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It's Not Our Issues As Much As How We Talk About Them... |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Nov-19-04 09:35 AM |
#157 |
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Moderates and Conservatives outnumber Liberals in Dem Party |
NoPasaran |
Nov-19-04 10:02 AM |
#165 |
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You don't have to be a liberal to oppose the Iraq War |
Mike L |
Nov-19-04 12:27 PM |
#170 |
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You could also say that Moderates and Liberals outweigh conservatives |
fob |
Nov-19-04 01:25 PM |
#171 |
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Of Course MSM Says Kerry Was Most Liberal Senator |
Razorback_Democrat |
Nov-19-04 01:30 PM |
#172 |
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Moderates rarely lead anything |
bloom |
Nov-21-04 10:44 PM |
#182 |
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