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13. Republicans win just by having the debate. They win if they lose because
they'll tell immigrants (which will make up a huge % of the population) that Democrats are hypocritical: they want you to vote for them when you're a citizen, but don't want to let you run for president.
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  -The Arnold thing is going to be used to make immigrants hate Democrats AP  Nov-14-04 06:39 PM   #0 
  - You know what I support the amendment  JohnKleeb   Nov-14-04 06:40 PM   #1 
  - On many levels, I agree. I'd also like to see non-citizens have the right  AP   Nov-14-04 06:44 PM   #4 
  - well, you can't lose my country's citizenship...  arcos   Nov-14-04 11:18 PM   #44 
     - You can't renounce it? Or you can't be denied it? Or both?  AP   Nov-15-04 12:16 AM   #45 
     - You can't renounce it...  arcos   Nov-15-04 01:32 AM   #48 
     - Yo estaba casado con una tica.  Swamp Rat   Nov-15-04 12:33 AM   #47 
        - No, no creo que sea posible...  arcos   Nov-15-04 01:33 AM   #49 
  - I support it, too  Dookus   Nov-14-04 06:44 PM   #5 
  - I support it, as well (and I know I'll get flamed)  Turn CO Blue   Nov-14-04 06:51 PM   #11 
  - there should be a grandfaher clause  BlueManDude   Nov-15-04 09:53 AM   #54 
  - Hellooo,Kleeb. No. Don't mess with this part of the constitution.  TruelyMe   Nov-15-04 10:02 AM   #55 
  - For Every Ganholm There Are Just As Many Who Might Undermine  cryingshame   Nov-15-04 10:23 AM   #57 
  - I support it if it was fair, bu the current amnedment proposed is not fair  pschoeb   Nov-15-04 10:25 AM   #58 
  - BULLSHIT  George W. Dunce   Nov-15-04 04:36 PM   #65 
  - A Constitutional amendment  UL_Approved   Nov-14-04 06:42 PM   #2 
  - The media could push it through if they wanted to, and they really wanted  AP   Nov-14-04 06:47 PM   #8 
  - it isn't about steroid boy but  xxqqqzme   Nov-14-04 06:43 PM   #3 
  - Immigrants have other things to worry about.  aquart   Nov-14-04 06:44 PM   #6 
  - Time will tell.  AP   Nov-14-04 06:49 PM   #10 
  - It wouldn't happen for a looong time anyways  BluegrassDem   Nov-14-04 06:46 PM   #7 
  - Republicans win just by having the debate. They win if they lose because  AP   Nov-14-04 06:52 PM   #13 
  - I have a counterproposal  fugue   Nov-14-04 06:47 PM   #9 
  - I think it should be that you were a citizen ONLY of the US before your...  AP   Nov-14-04 06:54 PM   #17 
  - I seriously doubt it  HootieMcBoob   Nov-14-04 06:51 PM   #12 
  - Foreign born CITIZENS make up a huge & growing % of the population...  AP   Nov-14-04 06:53 PM   #15 
  - Will the repubs sell their principled souls to get Arnold......  msongs   Nov-14-04 06:53 PM   #14 
  - Immigration issues are a sticky wicket for the GOP....  Jade Fox   Nov-14-04 06:54 PM   #16 
  - But they can't ignore forever that more and more voters are foreign born  AP   Nov-14-04 06:55 PM   #19 
  - You're right  fujiyama   Nov-14-04 07:00 PM   #21 
     - My point is that this won't be so much a debate about whether the foreign  AP   Nov-14-04 07:03 PM   #22 
        - I find myself wondering how many immigrants.....  Jade Fox   Nov-14-04 07:11 PM   #28 
           - Anecdotaly speaking, I think many do.  AP   Nov-14-04 09:33 PM   #38 
  - besides, mexican immigrants already hate Arnold because  msongs   Nov-14-04 06:55 PM   #18 
  - That's actually not true. Lots of immigrants like him and overlook  AP   Nov-14-04 06:57 PM   #20 
     - just referencing the story in today's LA Times. plus  msongs   Nov-14-04 07:03 PM   #23 
  - I would be for this constitutional ammendment - don't assume democrats  Clarkie1   Nov-14-04 07:04 PM   #24 
  - OK. I agree. A lot of Democrats will be fine with it. But I bet state...  AP   Nov-14-04 07:08 PM   #26 
     - A lot of legislatures are GOP controlled now, so we could use it  T Bone   Nov-14-04 09:44 PM   #41 
  - Ok ok As a NATURALIZED Citizen can I have a word here  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-14-04 07:08 PM   #25 
  - Why thank you Nadin. You made my point better than I did.  AP   Nov-14-04 07:10 PM   #27 
  - Karl Rove will mold Ahnuld  sparosnare   Nov-14-04 07:12 PM   #29 
  - Dems need to act like they are ALL for it  Moonbeam_Starlight   Nov-14-04 07:12 PM   #30 
  - you, my friend  pink-o   Nov-14-04 07:30 PM   #34 
  - Another choice is to have a serious debate about why the constitution is  AP   Nov-14-04 09:35 PM   #39 
  - Here's the trap  Obviousman   Nov-14-04 07:15 PM   #31 
  - I honestly dont care what they think  Ksec   Nov-14-04 07:17 PM   #32 
  - If Bush had signed the immigration bill that was passed earlier.. he  Prodemsouth   Nov-14-04 07:18 PM   #33 
  - I don't. Frankly, if you're going to tinker with the C, you should  roguevalley   Nov-14-04 08:11 PM   #35 
  - I would be for it..  deadparrot   Nov-14-04 08:13 PM   #36 
  - I prefer to have Reverend Moon denied his chance, thanks  jpgray   Nov-14-04 08:18 PM   #37 
  - Then we should nominate Madeline Albright - ASAP  RevCheesehead   Nov-14-04 09:40 PM   #40 
  - Not dual nationals (like Arnold) and must have been a citizen at 18  lawladyprof   Nov-14-04 10:25 PM   #42 
  - I like that. That should be the way to talk about it.  AP   Nov-14-04 10:29 PM   #43 
  - Well, I am a dual national myself  lawladyprof   Nov-15-04 09:24 AM   #52 
  - Well, two can play at this game.  Swamp Rat   Nov-15-04 12:26 AM   #46 
  - Go ahead and pass it.  ibegurpard   Nov-15-04 01:35 AM   #50 
  - This is the best position we could take...  tokenlib   Nov-15-04 12:22 PM   #61 
  - I'm against the amendment. I do agree with you that the repukes  Dem2theMax   Nov-15-04 05:14 AM   #51 
  - In the UK  Michael_UK   Nov-15-04 10:16 AM   #56 
  - Republicans will think this is great til a Haitian native decides to run  ohioan   Nov-15-04 09:46 AM   #53 
  - I disagree with changing the laws to let immigrants  Justathought   Nov-15-04 11:16 AM   #59 
  - One way or the other - it will happen  TNOE   Nov-15-04 11:58 AM   #60 
  - I agree with that. Arnold is custom made to be governor when there's a...  AP   Nov-15-04 12:25 PM   #62 
  - We paint the GOP as anti-American and anti-democracy  auburngrad82   Nov-15-04 12:34 PM   #63 
  - All they're trying to do is make the rich even richer without having to...  AP   Nov-15-04 12:48 PM   #64 
  - Fuck it  hiphopnation23   Nov-15-04 04:43 PM   #66 
  - I think the U.S. Constitution does not need to be changed one bit.  w4rma   Nov-15-04 04:51 PM   #67 

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