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New Dems formed to get corporate donors, be free from party base ideology.
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Edited on Thu Nov-11-04 10:43 AM by madfloridian
Simon Rosenberg 2001:
SNIP..."Simon Rosenberg, the former field director for the DLC who directs the New Democrat Network, a spin-off political action committee, says, "We're trying to raise money to help them lessen their reliance on traditional interest groups in the Democratic Party. In that way," he adds, "they are ideologically freed, frankly, from taking positions that make it difficult for Democrats to win."

Dear Simon,
Which traditional interest groups would those be? Could you spell it out?
"How the DLC Does It"

Corporate donations:
SNIP.."Sensing an opportunity, Representative Cal Dooley, a moderate California Democrat closely allied with that state's high-tech sector, moved in. As co-chairman of the House New Democrat Coalition, a bloc allied with the Democratic Leadership Council (DLC), Dooley was targeting fence-sitters to vote aye. Along with fellow New Democrats Harold Ford, Jr., of Tennessee and Bob Matsui of California, Dooley hooked Meeks up with a stream of corporate officials from Silicon Valley and the New York financial district. "My boss made sure there'd be support for Meeks from the business community," says a Dooley aide. "He spread the word, through groups like the Business Roundtable, that here was a guy who deserved their support."

SNIP..."A Business-Led Party

Freeing Democrats from being, well, Democrats has been the Democratic Leadership Council's mission since its founding 16 years ago by Al Gore, Chuck Robb, and a handful of other conservative, mostly southern Dems as a rump faction of disaffected elected officials and party activists. Producing and directing the DLC is Al From, its founder and CEO, who's been the leader, visionary, and energizing force behind the New Democrat movement since Day One. A veteran of the Carter White House and Capitol Hill, where he'd worked for Louisiana Representative Gillis Long and served as executive director of the House Democratic Caucus, From helped build the Committee on Party Effectiveness, a forerunner of the DLC, in the early 1980s. To From, a key rationale for establishing the DLC in those days was to protect the Democrats' eroding bastion in the South against mounting Republican gains, and indeed one of the DLC's chief projects in the 1980s was to create and promote the Super Tuesday primary across the South, aimed at enhancing the clout of southern Dems in selecting presidential candidates...."

DLC formed to get the Southern Democratic vote....we failed. Now they are renaming and regrouping to do the same thing, to lessen the voice of "traditional Democratic interests."

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  -New Dems formed to get corporate donors, be free from party base ideology. madfloridian  Nov-11-04 10:19 AM   #0 
  - In other words...  Q   Nov-11-04 10:24 AM   #1 
  - Did you hear him on AAR this morning? I missed it.  madfloridian   Nov-11-04 10:27 AM   #2 
     - Didn't hear it on AAR...  Q   Nov-11-04 10:33 AM   #4 
        - He also believes that most Democrats  FrustratedDemInNC   Nov-11-04 11:38 AM   #14 
           - Rosenberg thinks most Democrats supported the war?  madfloridian   Nov-11-04 11:47 AM   #15 
              - He stated that belief several times during the interview.  FrustratedDemInNC   Nov-11-04 12:01 PM   #20 
                 - If the party were listening, they would know we were mostly anti-war.  madfloridian   Nov-12-04 12:28 PM   #37 
  - That was the guy on C-SPAN earlier this week.  Skidmore   Nov-11-04 10:31 AM   #3 
  - Maybe he's changed, and is different today?  madfloridian   Nov-11-04 10:36 AM   #5 
  - This is old shit.  Teaser   Nov-11-04 10:56 AM   #6 
  - "you people" "you people" Please define or quit using that term.  madfloridian   Nov-11-04 11:07 AM   #7 
     - Oh yeah....  ShaneGR   Nov-11-04 11:13 AM   #9 
        - Who is "you people" is it you define me.  madfloridian   Nov-11-04 11:22 AM   #12 
  - Failed to get the Southern Vote?  ShaneGR   Nov-11-04 11:11 AM   #8 
  - Check out the congress loss.  madfloridian   Nov-11-04 11:15 AM   #10 
  - the DLC turned the south against us..  flaminbats   Nov-11-04 05:39 PM   #28 
     - We tried to be too much like them...and it did NOT work.  madfloridian   Nov-11-04 06:12 PM   #30 
  - We won this time - too bad you won't accept it  robbedvoter   Nov-11-04 11:17 AM   #11 
  - I believe the point is that...  Q   Nov-11-04 11:26 AM   #13 
  - yeah, I agree with you. I'm so confused about this post... change the  TruelyMe   Nov-11-04 04:30 PM   #24 
     - If you have corporations, you don't need the people..  madfloridian   Nov-11-04 04:34 PM   #25 
  - Perot helped Clinton get the south  WI_DEM   Nov-11-04 11:56 AM   #19 
  - Remember what they do to members who criticize them.  madfloridian   Nov-11-04 11:50 AM   #16 
  - I've heard it all--ideologically freed  Malva Zebrina   Nov-11-04 11:50 AM   #17 
  - and this guy is a leading contender for DNC Chairman  WI_DEM   Nov-11-04 11:55 AM   #18 
  - An additional thought, as it really is about funding......a corporate war.  madfloridian   Nov-11-04 01:10 PM   #21 
  - They wanted to replace the labor support with corporate support.  madfloridian   Nov-11-04 04:23 PM   #22 
  - Time to cut off grassroots donations and volunteering...  Skidmore   Nov-11-04 04:29 PM   #23 
  - RW corporations created the DLC to destroy the Democratic Party.  Zorra   Nov-11-04 04:36 PM   #26 
  - Bingo!  FrustratedDemInNC   Nov-11-04 05:43 PM   #29 
  - These guys have no political sense. Period.  BullGooseLoony   Nov-11-04 04:58 PM   #27 
  - No surprise at all -- more links on the subject  Eloriel   Nov-11-04 06:27 PM   #31 
  - Yep, and it's bait and switch  BlueInRed   Nov-11-04 08:31 PM   #32 
  - Your posts are quite good and sensible. A comment about their directory.  madfloridian   Nov-12-04 10:09 AM   #36 
  - DEAN for DNC!!!!!  Poor Richard Lex   Nov-11-04 08:43 PM   #33 
     - our last successful DNC chair was Ron Brown..  flaminbats   Nov-11-04 09:07 PM   #34 
     - I'm with you on Dean  BlueInRed   Nov-11-04 11:23 PM   #35 

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