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requiem99 Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 11:44 PM
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Proving a fix is actually very simple and quick, so here it is:
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Edited on Tue Nov-02-04 11:47 PM by requiem99
The assertion by pundits/Bushies that exit polling was 'way off', and thus, exit polls, which showed an easy Kerry victory in both Ohio and Florida, were incorrecty skewed and did not represent the electorate, is completely bogus.

This is disproved in minutes by simply noting the entire rest of the suite of exit polls conducted by AP and distributed to the news media. View here: /

Notice, if you will, that states with a narrow or wide Bush margin of victory NOT called Ohio or Florida, project perfectly. Missouri leans to Bush in exit polls, and leaned to him in the vote. Tennessee likewise was favorable to Bush in exit polls, and it showed in the final results with a clear Bush margin of victory. Pick a state, any state, there is not one single exit poll off by more than a few percentage points in any semi-competitive race. Not one.

Except 2. Ohio and Florida, the latter of which has already been "awarded" to Bush, and the former, which appears to nearly be a lock for him as he is up 3 percentage points with 80 percent of the electorate tallied. George Bush's win in each of these 2 states is nowhere near what exit polls suggest. In Ohio, Kerry had a small but noticeable lead with both male and female voters, a rare thing for him as males have tended to favor Bush in this election by a small margin. Likewise, independent voters clearly broke for Kerry, by a 21 percent margin, 60-39. This is not anywhere near the result we are seeing now, and along with Florida, whom I will get to in a moment, it is a clear and blatant sign of voter fraud. I don't use that most dangerous of "F" words lightly, but I must call a wolf a wolf and a sheep a sheep, and this whole setup stinks like Karl Rove after he's ran 15 feet.

Florida, as opposed to simply trending for Mr. Bush, has already been "awarded" to him by the media, who all glibly fail to mention the fact that the exit polling yet again does not match up with the result. Did I mention a moment ago that this and Ohio are the only examples of the exit polling not matching up? I'm pretty sure I did... According to the final tally (which some claim isn't final due to absentee, but I digress) George Bush has received a whopping 340,000 more votes than John Kerry, running away to a 52-47 victory and grabbing all 27 of Florida's electoral votes in the process. However, there is this matter of the exit polls, which I believe I have mentioned a few times in this article: While Mr. Kerry had 6 percent less support from his party than Mr. Bush did, he scored among woman yet again (54 percent of Florida's electorate) by a 52-48 margin, small but important, while losing men (46 percent of the electorate) 47-52, essentially the same margin. Independents, however, broke heavily for John Kerry, favoring him a staggering 60-38 over Mr. Bush. At the very least, this would suggest a very close race, and certainly not the lopsided blowout it turned out to be.

As Joe Pesci once said, "Something is fishy in Florida."

Ohio too, Joe. Ohio too.

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  -Proving a fix is actually very simple and quick, so here it is: requiem99  Nov-02-04 11:44 PM   #0 
  - KICK  ciaobox   Nov-02-04 11:46 PM   #1 
  - Here's a great selling point to the media: This keeps the story going  demo@midlife   Nov-02-04 11:57 PM   #14 
  - Don't count on media- get the word to the Kerry campaign  RedEagle   Nov-03-04 12:20 AM   #32 
  - Well, I thought for sure that we Democrats were...........  TheDeb   Nov-03-04 03:23 AM   #61 
  - I did a more detailed analysis of this situation  SoCalDemocrat   Nov-03-04 04:18 AM   #64 
  - This needs another kick. (nt)  Skinner   Nov-02-04 11:49 PM   #2 
  - zing  high density   Nov-02-04 11:50 PM   #3 
  - Kick  teryang   Nov-02-04 11:51 PM   #4 
  - MAJOR KICK!!!!!!!!!!!  Kerry in 04   Nov-02-04 11:52 PM   #5 
  - I'll Kick, but I need to know WHAT TO DO ABOUT IT. Thanks! nt  IdaBriggs   Nov-02-04 11:53 PM   #6 
  - #1 -- Make sure EVERYONE knows the election is fraudulent  Oak2004   Nov-03-04 05:01 AM   #66 
  - THANKYOU!  nothingshocksmeanymore   Nov-02-04 11:53 PM   #7 
  - kicking  imax2268   Nov-02-04 11:53 PM   #8 
  - Another  DemVIctory   Nov-02-04 11:54 PM   #10 
  - Kick -> I Approve This Message Too, thanks requiem99!  Fear   Nov-02-04 11:53 PM   #9 
  - THANK YOU!  crickets   Nov-02-04 11:54 PM   #11 
  - Let's get those 10,000 lawyers to work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  kokomo   Nov-02-04 11:55 PM   #12 
  - YES, YES!  tsuki   Nov-03-04 12:01 AM   #17 
     - Yes! What is that about? It seems so peculiar. Why Thursday, indeed.  ByeByeBushie   Nov-03-04 12:05 AM   #22 
  - KICK!  ydya   Nov-02-04 11:55 PM   #13 
  - KICK  phish420   Nov-02-04 11:57 PM   #15 
  - Yes, Minnesota matches the exit polls quite well and matches  Lydia Leftcoast   Nov-03-04 12:00 AM   #16 
  - NO DEFEAT, NO SURRENDER ! WE HAVE JUST BEGUN TO FIGHT !  RadiDem   Nov-03-04 12:05 AM   #21 
  - Why were we told the stock market lost all gains today as Kerry might win?  socalover   Nov-03-04 12:01 AM   #18 
  - Bookmark this:  robbedvoter   Nov-03-04 12:04 AM   #19 
  - thanks for the link!  sir_arms_50   Nov-03-04 12:05 AM   #20 
     - THIS NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT UP TO THE MEDIA.  Kerry in 04   Nov-03-04 12:07 AM   #23 
  - Kick!  _NorCal_D_   Nov-03-04 12:11 AM   #24 
  - Kick...  IthinkThereforeIAM   Nov-03-04 12:12 AM   #25 
  - kick  yassir   Nov-03-04 12:12 AM   #26 
  - kick  TransitJohn   Nov-03-04 12:12 AM   #27 
  - Hell no we won't go  Monica_L   Nov-03-04 12:13 AM   #28 
  - kick  Kitka   Nov-03-04 12:17 AM   #29 
  - We are hearing nothing from Kerry about what he is going  JPace   Nov-03-04 12:18 AM   #30 
  - kick nt  independentpiney   Nov-03-04 12:18 AM   #31 
  - Kick!!  trag   Nov-03-04 12:20 AM   #33 
  - kick  slinkerwink   Nov-03-04 12:20 AM   #34 
  - Florida Wont Be Called Till November 12th  sandboxface   Nov-03-04 12:25 AM   #35 
  - The whole fishy mock apology from  realpolitik   Nov-03-04 12:27 AM   #36 
  - Huh?  Shadoobie   Nov-03-04 12:28 AM   #37 
  - Total Kick for Us Winning!!! nt  IdaBriggs   Nov-03-04 12:41 AM   #38 
  - KICK!  ydya   Nov-03-04 12:45 AM   #39 
  - 99, great work  neomonkey   Nov-03-04 12:45 AM   #40 
  - This election is broken.  hunter   Nov-03-04 12:49 AM   #41 
  - I agree...we can't give up....  Desertrose   Nov-03-04 12:50 AM   #42 
  - Ohio: 53% of women voted for Kerry. 51% of men voted for Kerry  ticapnews   Nov-03-04 12:51 AM   #43 
  - I approve this message too.  BurtWorm   Nov-03-04 12:51 AM   #44 
  - What can we do about it? As a Floridian I am  Pacifist Patriot   Nov-03-04 12:52 AM   #45 
  - We will not concede this time!  noexcuseforgeorge   Nov-03-04 12:53 AM   #46 
  - Kick!  Kerry in 04   Nov-03-04 12:54 AM   #47 
  - Ken Malhmen (sp) was setting up that Big Lie early in the evening  Joe Turner   Nov-03-04 12:57 AM   #48 
  - It smelled bad to me too. Kick!  soulsick in jp   Nov-03-04 01:11 AM   #49 
  - ATTN FOLKS: They have CHANGED the exit polls since I wrote this!  requiem99   Nov-03-04 01:18 AM   #50 
  -  ticapnews   Nov-03-04 01:45 AM   #51 
  - So.......................  merci_me   Nov-03-04 01:45 AM   #52 
  - They absolutely did change them.  FatDave   Nov-03-04 01:57 AM   #53 
  - this is called "cleaning up the scene of the crime"...... it's obvious  cthrumatrix   Nov-03-04 05:16 AM   #67 
  - kick!  symphony   Nov-03-04 02:02 AM   #54 
  - WAR ROOM WAS SET UP AND THEY DECLARED WAR ON US !  vetwife   Nov-03-04 02:28 AM   #55 
  - Thank you  grace0418   Nov-03-04 02:29 AM   #56 
  - Idiot Pat Buchannan said about Kerry ..Be a like Nixon  vetwife   Nov-03-04 02:30 AM   #57 
  - Has anyone offered any kind of explanation for the changing #'s? (nt)  FatDave   Nov-03-04 02:37 AM   #58 
  - So that's why all the hue and cry about "exit polls" from the Repukes  Proud2BAmurkin   Nov-03-04 02:41 AM   #59 
  - KICK  crickets   Nov-03-04 03:18 AM   #60 
  - Can I cut and paste this on another site ?  Delightful   Nov-03-04 04:02 AM   #62 
  - kick for everyone to read  Zuni   Nov-03-04 04:12 AM   #63 
  - *bump*  sara4kerry   Nov-03-04 04:23 AM   #65 
  - kick  mcg   Nov-03-04 05:22 AM   #68 
  - kick  progdonkey   Nov-03-04 06:16 AM   #69 
  - Kick!  Matilda   Nov-03-04 07:09 AM   #70 
  - kick  txindy   Nov-03-04 09:14 AM   #71 
  - PA returns closely followed the exit poll but near the end  gasperc   Nov-03-04 09:36 AM   #72 
  - KICK  G_j   Nov-03-04 09:58 AM   #73 

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