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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 02:10 PM
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8. Here's what I have to add:
1) One of the reasons we support Kerry is because we believe the US foreign policy will be different under Kerry than it has been under Bush;

2) OBL has a stake in US foreign policy, for the reasons you listed and more. It's foolish to say that OBL doesn't care what the US foreign policy is -- of course he does, otherwise he "hates us for our freedoms";

Therefore, Osama Bin Laden has a stake in who wins the election.

3) Releasing the tape so close to the election was obviously intended to have an effect on the US election. OBL is not stupid, and he is conscious of consequences of his actions;

4) What effect did OBL want to achieve with this tape? Which candidate did he want to help? He does not have a crystal ball, but he has access to all of the public data that we have. And what does that public data say? It says two things: 1. Whenever a terror threat of some kind is released, Bush gets a bump in the polls (see graph below); and 2. His tape will knock all of the negative Bush stories from last week off the front pages, or at least diminish their profile.



Therefore,

the release of this tape under these circumstances and at this time was clearly an attempt to help Bush win the election.

Let's hope that the American people have been underestimated and can rise above the knee-jerk, reptilian-brain reactions that they have exhibited in the aftermath of 9/11.
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  -The right-wing is dead wrong - Osama wants Bush elected EarlG  Oct-30-04 01:29 PM   #0 
  - CNN...  larissa   Oct-30-04 01:30 PM   #1 
  - If you look for it  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-30-04 01:31 PM   #2 
  - Unless Kerry speaks out and hits Bush hard on Osama  Harlan James   Oct-30-04 01:33 PM   #3 
  - No nuke went off. Nobody gives a shit about this tape.  endnote   Oct-30-04 03:46 PM   #18 
  - I am very suspicious about the timing of the Osama videotape release.  kokomo   Oct-30-04 04:06 PM   #21 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-30-04 01:34 PM   #4 
  - nominated for home page...  Triana   Oct-30-04 01:38 PM   #5 
  - Kick!  JohnnyCougar   Oct-30-04 01:53 PM   #6 
  - Bush admitted he panders to terrorists  Cocoa   Oct-30-04 01:58 PM   #7 
  - Here's what I have to add:  slavkomae   Oct-30-04 02:10 PM   #8 
  - Good points  EarlG   Oct-30-04 03:17 PM   #12 
  - Exactly -- it's absurd  slavkomae   Oct-30-04 04:04 PM   #20 
  - The rest of us are simply pawns . . .  PNR   Oct-31-04 06:58 PM   #36 
  - This is TOO TRANSPARENT...  saccheradi   Oct-30-04 05:36 PM   #28 
  - Most excellent post, EarlG!  chiburb   Oct-30-04 03:06 PM   #9 
  - the proof is here  rosebud57   Oct-30-04 03:08 PM   #10 
     - The only problem I have with that flyer  EarlG   Oct-30-04 03:22 PM   #13 
        - I see what you mean, however I wonder if it was said, but the transcript  rosebud57   Oct-31-04 07:08 AM   #34 
  - As I said in another post, it's hard to argue with Osama the Enemy's  KoKo01   Oct-30-04 03:15 PM   #11 
  - Great post....and very enlightening for those who don't have time to  linazelle   Oct-30-04 03:31 PM   #14 
  - This opinion piece provides examples of Arab viewpoints  bloom   Oct-30-04 03:35 PM   #15 
  - Excellent Points, Mr. Earl!  The Magistrate   Oct-30-04 03:39 PM   #16 
  - The entire bush team ,getting air time !  NicRic   Oct-30-04 03:44 PM   #17 
  - "The Americans have made this land truly fertile for terrorism."  bloom   Oct-30-04 03:57 PM   #19 
  - Of COURSE bin Laden wants Bush--that's why he endorsed Kerry  rocknation   Oct-30-04 04:10 PM   #22 
  - All Dems need to remember these talking points  AIndependentTexan   Oct-30-04 04:21 PM   #23 
  - "Everybody hates America now because of the policies of President Bush"  bloom   Oct-30-04 04:23 PM   #24 
  - Bush and Osama NEED EACHOTHER. They further the others cause.  mzmolly   Oct-30-04 04:34 PM   #25 
  - Transcript Here  DaCheat   Oct-30-04 05:30 PM   #27 
     - Hi DaCheat!!  newyawker99   Oct-30-04 06:28 PM   #31 
     - The transcript proves my point. He did mention Bush, did you read it?  mzmolly   Oct-30-04 10:19 PM   #32 
  - Fallujans fighting for the honor of Palestine, Saudis fighting for Falluja  bloom   Oct-30-04 05:23 PM   #26 
  - Bush "allowed" terrorist conference that Clinton got Musharraf to deny  bloom   Oct-30-04 05:55 PM   #29 
  - ALERT! Mods, please lock!! RW sources! Faux cited!!  steviet_2003   Oct-30-04 06:12 PM   #30 
  - Do you think the MSM will figure this out before the election?  Chimpanzee   Oct-31-04 01:14 AM   #33 
  - Earl does anyone here have the real transcript of the OBL video?  loftycity   Oct-31-04 01:15 PM   #35 
 

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