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Nicholas_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 01:55 PM
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28. I didnt check the numbers voted on per day
Edited on Sun Oct-24-04 02:02 PM by Nicholas_J
just assumed that the 1000 give was correct, and then repeated the standard methodology for tracking polls which is that they are polling x number of people over a three day period, and then averaging out the days, so a smaller number of people are polled each day. This method gets an average of polling over that three day period, which is less accurate than taking a poll over three days and then stating what percent of that entire number voted for each candidate.

Both Zogby and Rasmusssen are averaging the results over a three day period, rather than giving the data it figures for the entire group. Which means that oneone day Kerry can be ten points ahead of Bush in the poll, but the next day he could be wo points behind, and the next dead even so the results would show him behind, While in the total of the votes he could actually be ahead.

Oddly enough none of the natioal pollsare reflecting the reality on thge ground, where even in heavily Republican districts, exit polls are showing democrats voting in higher numbers than expected. In most cases 25 percent higher than expected. In fact, the numbers are coming out in the reverse of the percentages Gallop, Rasmussen, Mason Dixon and SUSA use. They are all using models that show Republicans outvoting democrats by anywhere from 5percent to 25 percent while right nowm the daily percentage by which Democrats are voting is 25 percent higher than Gallop anticipated by more than 25 percent in Republican dominated areas

Gallop anticipated that the voter breakdown would be 39 percent Republican 30 percent Democrat, and the rest independent. In fact, right now in the heaviest Republican districts in early voting states. Democrats are voting at about 40 percent in those Republican areas. Which is why Republicans are trying to get tens of thousands of democratic votes thrown out for techicaliteis on the applications in Republican dominated counties in Florida and Ohio. I do not think the courts will disenfranchise voters again for the minor techincal mistakes ointed out be Republicans (such as having two places to sign asserting that you are a U.S. citiizen, and the person only signs in one place, thinking he only needs to assert it once)

Early voting is showing Kerry is ahead of Bush in most of the state where it is happening.

In fact, in some cases state where early voting is occuring are showing that the total number of voters who vote this year may be as much as 78 percent higher than the percentage of people who voted in 2002. This election may show the highest percentage of registered voters voting in the last 50 years.
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  -Rasmussen Tracks Toward Kerry, Zogby Moves Away....... louis c  Oct-24-04 11:31 AM   #0 
  - Thanks louis. We always appreciate your information. It is  Pirate Smile   Oct-24-04 11:33 AM   #1 
  - I still question if..  mvd   Oct-24-04 11:35 AM   #2 
  - Zogby was dead on in 2000 (and I think ) 96....  Clinton Crusader   Oct-24-04 11:35 AM   #3 
  - I'm not nervous with all the other news out  mvd   Oct-24-04 11:36 AM   #5 
  - Isnt he using different meathods this year? Internet polling?  Quixote1818   Oct-24-04 11:40 AM   #9 
  - That's only for his state polls  tritsofme   Oct-24-04 01:16 PM   #25 
  - Zogby has changed his methodology. So, I view his polling..  Kahuna   Oct-24-04 02:53 PM   #30 
  - either way you can always add about 6 points to the Kerry column..  truthpusher   Oct-24-04 11:36 AM   #4 
  - whoa  qazplm   Oct-24-04 11:38 AM   #7 
     - I think that after this election the pollsters and pundits will...  truthpusher   Oct-24-04 11:58 AM   #17 
  - Zogby is NOT moving away  still_one   Oct-24-04 11:36 AM   #6 
  - Oh, I agree  louis c   Oct-24-04 11:45 AM   #10 
  - this is why tracking polls are unreliable  DaveinMD   Oct-24-04 11:39 AM   #8 
  - They're tracking 1,000 a day each.  louis c   Oct-24-04 11:47 AM   #12 
  - nope  DaveinMD   Oct-24-04 12:00 PM   #18 
     - I hate to correct you but it is  louis c   Oct-24-04 01:05 PM   #24 
        - okay  DaveinMD   Oct-24-04 01:25 PM   #27 
           - I have already conceded that  louis c   Oct-24-04 02:45 PM   #29 
  - Look closer  Nicholas_J   Oct-24-04 11:51 AM   #14 
     - You're mistaken  louis c   Oct-24-04 01:19 PM   #26 
        - I didnt check the numbers voted on per day  Nicholas_J   Oct-24-04 01:55 PM   #28 
  - We went up to Cincy yesterday from Louisville to help the Dems  MasonJar   Oct-24-04 11:47 AM   #11 
  - I haven't been polled by Zogby for about 10 days..............  DumpGump   Oct-24-04 11:47 AM   #13 
  - Time's website of battleground states  jerryster   Oct-24-04 11:53 AM   #15 
  - While I don't question Zogby's methods, I do question the likelihood  TwilightZone   Oct-24-04 11:56 AM   #16 
  - Has Rasmussen changed his methodology since 2000?  Freddie Stubbs   Oct-24-04 12:07 PM   #19 
  - Yes.  louis c   Oct-24-04 12:20 PM   #21 
  - Zogby said bush had 2 good polling days, which mean he could go up  sonicx   Oct-24-04 12:10 PM   #20 
  - at this point, the nats are useless, look at the state polls. its the EC.  kodi   Oct-24-04 12:24 PM   #22 
  - A cautionary note folks, tomorrows Zogby might be crappy  WI_DEM   Oct-24-04 12:32 PM   #23 
 

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