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Mon Jan-12-04 03:42 PM
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| 49. You are wrong, Dean is right |
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The Washington establishment is frightened by the possibility of a Dean presidency. Why? Because he is beholden to nobody but the people and as such he might be inclined to do A LOT of house cleaning.
I wish everyone would see this. The Primary battle, IMO, will come down to a choice between the old establishment for the corporations (as represented by Clark, Kerry, etc.) or a new way for the people (Dean or Kucinich).
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| -Dean: They're not trying to stop me, they're trying to stop YOU. |
chimpymustgo |
Jan-12-04 03:08 PM |
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More obnoxious presumption from the campaign |
NewYorkerfromMass |
Jan-12-04 03:11 PM |
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obnoxious presumption |
dave29 |
Jan-12-04 03:14 PM |
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Yes. to say it is also an attack on his supporters is a false premise |
NewYorkerfromMass |
Jan-12-04 03:24 PM |
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Hey, I've heard that before |
Walt Starr |
Jan-12-04 03:50 PM |
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Bullshit. The establishment doesn't fear Dean. It fears an awakened |
stickdog |
Jan-12-04 05:06 PM |
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We HAVE been attacked! |
GloriaSmith |
Jan-12-04 05:31 PM |
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Uh, you must be new here |
markus |
Jan-12-04 03:38 PM |
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yes, I'm well aware |
dave29 |
Jan-12-04 05:07 PM |
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Obnoxious presumption? |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Jan-12-04 03:14 PM |
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Hey, I've heard that before |
Walt Starr |
Jan-12-04 03:14 PM |
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Hey, I've heard that before! |
janx |
Jan-12-04 03:20 PM |
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Dean has today taken to calling his opponents "frontrunners". |
flpoljunkie |
Jan-12-04 03:28 PM |
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Hey, I've heard that before |
Walt Starr |
Jan-12-04 03:55 PM |
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Trying to portray himself as something other than what he is |
NewYorkerfromMass |
Jan-12-04 04:24 PM |
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Only CNN can annoint the "frontrunner" |
Jim4Wes |
Jan-13-04 09:32 AM |
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It was GREAT! |
Padraig18 |
Jan-12-04 03:12 PM |
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Yup, Party Power elitists biggest fear is |
Walt Starr |
Jan-12-04 03:12 PM |
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Edwards, Clark, Kerry and Kucinich supporters are pretty empowered. |
chimpymustgo |
Jan-12-04 03:16 PM |
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Hey, I've heard that before |
Walt Starr |
Jan-12-04 03:17 PM |
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Hey, I've heard that before! |
janx |
Jan-12-04 03:28 PM |
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Looking at the percentage of Edwards & Kerry supporters who have |
stickdog |
Jan-12-04 05:10 PM |
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Oh? Just exactly how are they empowered? |
Eloriel |
Jan-12-04 07:42 PM |
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Padraig, a question please? |
jmaier |
Jan-12-04 03:16 PM |
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you're reading too much into it. |
Padraig18 |
Jan-12-04 03:20 PM |
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Well, |
jmaier |
Jan-12-04 03:21 PM |
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Actually, look at Al From, Newt tribute, and the media |
mouse7 |
Jan-12-04 09:09 PM |
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Totally agree Pad.....this is Dean unplugged. nt |
caledesi |
Jan-12-04 03:20 PM |
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yup |
Cheswick |
Jan-12-04 03:54 PM |
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ding ding ding-- a nightmare to rove |
cthrumatrix |
Jan-12-04 07:04 PM |
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Hey, I've heard that before |
Walt Starr |
Jan-12-04 03:12 PM |
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What About Dean's Attacks? What About Clark, Who Hasn't Attacked? |
DoveTurnedHawk |
Jan-12-04 03:13 PM |
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He also said in his speech that he wanted them to make him president on |
Bombtrack |
Jan-12-04 03:13 PM |
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Hey, I've heard that before |
Walt Starr |
Jan-12-04 03:14 PM |
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Me too. |
mzmolly |
Jan-12-04 03:17 PM |
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Really? |
Padraig18 |
Jan-12-04 03:14 PM |
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Nah... I think he's consistent there |
NV1962 |
Jan-12-04 03:13 PM |
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Thanks, NV1962. You get it! there's nothing sinister about it. |
Lisa0825 |
Jan-12-04 08:41 PM |
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Dean's right. |
Hep |
Jan-12-04 03:14 PM |
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Boo! |
Clark Can WIN |
Jan-12-04 03:28 PM |
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Hey, I've heard that before |
Walt Starr |
Jan-12-04 03:30 PM |
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me too |
Cheswick |
Jan-12-04 03:57 PM |
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He is right |
CMT |
Jan-12-04 03:14 PM |
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I hate when Dean goes cultish |
TheDonkey |
Jan-12-04 03:15 PM |
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Hey, I've heard that before |
Walt Starr |
Jan-12-04 03:18 PM |
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more of the with us or against us shit |
bearfartinthewoods |
Jan-12-04 04:10 PM |
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I hate it when insiders try to crush populist movements. (nt) |
stickdog |
Jan-12-04 05:14 PM |
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Still undecided Chimpy? |
mzmolly |
Jan-12-04 03:15 PM |
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Dean's YOU won't let it happen... |
dajabr |
Jan-12-04 03:16 PM |
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Weeble Wobble! |
w4rma |
Jan-12-04 04:27 PM |
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full of stale air |
Clark Can WIN |
Jan-12-04 04:52 PM |
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He's exactly right |
party_line |
Jan-12-04 03:17 PM |
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There's a ton of articles like that on Dean - better get used to it.... |
gore-is-my-president |
Jan-12-04 05:20 PM |
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I guess Dems aren't allowed to criticize the annointed one |
cally |
Jan-12-04 03:19 PM |
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Oddly enough... |
Padraig18 |
Jan-12-04 03:22 PM |
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"annointed one" ? |
janx |
Jan-12-04 03:27 PM |
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Dean and all the supporters |
cally |
Jan-12-04 04:21 PM |
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Please tell me--give me a link or a reference--about all of the |
janx |
Jan-12-04 07:22 PM |
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I think it's a buffy |
dave29 |
Jan-12-04 05:10 PM |
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I was just about to start a topic on this. Can a Dean supporter |
cindyw |
Jan-12-04 03:22 PM |
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Dean's campaign is people powered |
Walt Starr |
Jan-12-04 03:29 PM |
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i am not party elite and i'm out to stop dean |
bearfartinthewoods |
Jan-12-04 07:33 PM |
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I'm not party elite either and I don't want him to be president |
cindyw |
Jan-12-04 07:42 PM |
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DK is the only other candidate who really seems to support the freedom |
helleborient |
Jan-12-04 03:52 PM |
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Dean's talking about the incessant bullshit attacks & low blows. |
stickdog |
Jan-12-04 05:16 PM |
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He also said "WE are stronger than THEY are" speaking of other Democrats |
Clark Can WIN |
Jan-12-04 03:24 PM |
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Link, please? |
janx |
Jan-12-04 03:52 PM |
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No. He was talking about PEOPLE vs. the establishment, both Dem & Repuke. |
stickdog |
Jan-12-04 05:17 PM |
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No. Dean was rallying his troops against other Democrats. |
chimpymustgo |
Jan-12-04 07:15 PM |
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haha, this is funny! |
slinkerwink |
Jan-12-04 03:29 PM |
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"trying to stop you through Dean" |
NewYorkerfromMass |
Jan-12-04 03:34 PM |
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Meanwhile, outside of GD:2004 |
rucky |
Jan-12-04 03:32 PM |
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When he says this, he's normally talking about Chimpy & Co. |
janx |
Jan-12-04 03:51 PM |
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well if you get CSPAN tune in right now 5:00 est |
maddezmom |
Jan-12-04 03:57 PM |
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This is crazy |
DancingBear |
Jan-12-04 03:36 PM |
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Hey, I've heard that before |
Walt Starr |
Jan-12-04 03:38 PM |
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Let me guess |
DancingBear |
Jan-12-04 03:41 PM |
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Well, when the Clark sources of the day are Fox and Limbaugh... |
janx |
Jan-12-04 03:50 PM |
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Gee, why did I know this was coming |
DancingBear |
Jan-12-04 03:58 PM |
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You're welcome! |
janx |
Jan-12-04 04:11 PM |
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Hey, I've heard that before |
Walt Starr |
Jan-12-04 04:00 PM |
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Yes, I'm sure you do |
DancingBear |
Jan-12-04 04:12 PM |
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Noe, not highbrow at all |
Walt Starr |
Jan-12-04 04:12 PM |
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Name removed |
Jan-12-04 04:20 PM |
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They became disenchanted with POOP when someone asked |
QC |
Jan-12-04 07:20 PM |
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Yep. He's on a polarizing populist kick |
NewYorkerfromMass |
Jan-12-04 03:40 PM |
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"Ask not at whom the Chimp smirks-- |
janx |
Jan-12-04 03:37 PM |
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He's been using this line a while |
bain_sidhe |
Jan-12-04 03:40 PM |
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Dean's campaign is not the same as other campaigns... |
helleborient |
Jan-12-04 03:49 PM |
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Hunh. And Clinton won twice. |
library_max |
Jan-12-04 04:46 PM |
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That's all you got. FEAR. Just like the Repuke fear mongers. (nt) |
stickdog |
Jan-12-04 05:19 PM |
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Call off the dogs. |
library_max |
Jan-13-04 09:30 AM |
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Dean is just digging himself a hole. All this "straight talk" that his |
neverforget |
Jan-12-04 03:40 PM |
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scares is my choice of words |
bearfartinthewoods |
Jan-12-04 04:42 PM |
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So, are you going to vote Bush or just stay home? (nt) |
stickdog |
Jan-12-04 05:20 PM |
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Why I agree with Howard Dean's comment.... |
helleborient |
Jan-12-04 03:42 PM |
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You are wrong, Dean is right |
worldgonekrazy |
Jan-12-04 03:42 PM |
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Why? BECAUSE HE WILL LOSE HORRIBLY. |
ClarkGraham2004 |
Jan-12-04 07:35 PM |
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Yes. Keep using fear to intimidate. |
stickdog |
Jan-12-04 08:33 PM |
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Hey, I've heard that before |
Cheswick |
Jan-12-04 03:53 PM |
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Does Dean support my right to want him stopped??? |
sandnsea |
Jan-12-04 03:58 PM |
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It's possible he wasn't talking about you? |
rucky |
Jan-12-04 04:10 PM |
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I've heard this before "I'm taking my bat and ball and going home" |
oasis |
Jan-12-04 04:09 PM |
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Dean Also Says This Isn't About HIM It's About "US" |
cryingshame |
Jan-12-04 04:11 PM |
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Wait--you're calling the Dean campaign a cult and then |
janx |
Jan-12-04 04:15 PM |
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I Removed The Reference To Astrology Before You Responded |
cryingshame |
Jan-12-04 04:19 PM |
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But you referred to it as astrology in your post. |
janx |
Jan-12-04 04:22 PM |
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I wouldn't say that |
Walt Starr |
Jan-12-04 04:45 PM |
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Christianity is far more cult-like. Wouldn't you agree? (nt) |
stickdog |
Jan-12-04 05:23 PM |
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Cults feature a strong leader who is admired with a fervent devoti |
gore-is-my-president |
Jan-12-04 05:26 PM |
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You mean like Ghandi or Jesus or JFK or FDR? |
stickdog |
Jan-12-04 08:10 PM |
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Having been quite involved in the Dean campaign since |
indigo32 |
Jan-12-04 05:26 PM |
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Misleader |
isbister |
Jan-12-04 04:44 PM |
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Dean's right. They don't give a damn about Dean. Their problem with Dean |
stickdog |
Jan-12-04 05:05 PM |
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We're scared of getting Bush in for 4 more years. And of Dean's record. |
gore-is-my-president |
Jan-12-04 05:34 PM |
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The activist nature of said campaign |
DancingBear |
Jan-12-04 06:01 PM |
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So your argument is that if we stand up for ourselves, we'll lose |
stickdog |
Jan-12-04 08:27 PM |
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It was a literal truth |
Lobo_13 |
Jan-12-04 06:41 PM |
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Dean creeps me out. |
ClarkGraham2004 |
Jan-12-04 07:34 PM |
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Clark scares children. |
cynicalSOB1 |
Jan-12-04 08:43 PM |
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Clark has cooties. |
stickdog |
Jan-12-04 08:46 PM |
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They are. This is a grassroots movement, Dean is just part of it. |
cynicalSOB1 |
Jan-12-04 08:42 PM |
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and that's what people still don't understand! |
slinkerwink |
Jan-12-04 08:49 PM |
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I think we have to start doing a better job of presenting our message. |
cynicalSOB1 |
Jan-12-04 09:00 PM |
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So let me see if I've got this straight |
sangh0 |
Jan-13-04 09:54 AM |
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He is correct of course |
quaker bill |
Jan-12-04 09:51 PM |
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