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GiovanniC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 08:20 AM
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82. Why?
If Mary Cheney WOULD say that being gay is not a choice, then John Kerry is right.

If Mary Cheney WOULD NOT say that being gay is not a choice, then she is saying that being gay IS a choice (double negatives cancel each other out). In other words, she would be saying that she choses to be a homosexual. That doesn't play well with the Republican base. Keyes has already said she's a selfish hedonist, as it is.

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  -Could We Lose This Spin War Over the Mary Cheney comment? liberalpragmatist  Oct-14-04 12:52 AM   #0 
  - Yeah, if we let them say that being gay is a bad thing. nt  BullGooseLoony   Oct-14-04 12:53 AM   #1 
  - JK's reference was positive....he was not attacking her at all.  TwentyFive   Oct-14-04 01:10 AM   #21 
     - Exactly. He said it himself- God makes people the way they are,  BullGooseLoony   Oct-14-04 01:16 AM   #26 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-14-04 12:54 AM   #2 
  - no way...I don't think so at all.  Demi_Babe   Oct-14-04 12:54 AM   #3 
  - I don't think so either. Tim Russert pointed out on the Today Show  highplainsdem   Oct-14-04 08:08 AM   #76 
  - Bush's Osama line...  Memekiller   Oct-14-04 12:54 AM   #4 
  - The OBL lie illustrated, print & distribute!  rosebud57   Oct-14-04 07:18 AM   #66 
  - What was the Osma line, I was distracted during that part. n/t  Catfight   Oct-14-04 08:16 AM   #79 
  - Bingo!  ljm2002   Oct-14-04 09:13 AM   #86 
  - Ridiculous.  aquart   Oct-14-04 12:55 AM   #5 
  - It's always risky to say what another person "would say".  MercutioATC   Oct-14-04 12:56 AM   #6 
  - mary cheney thinks being gay is a choice?  sonicx   Oct-14-04 01:05 AM   #19 
  - I don't think so, but is it wise to speak for her?  MercutioATC   Oct-14-04 01:15 AM   #24 
  - Why?  GiovanniC   Oct-14-04 08:20 AM   #82 
  - by doing what? does it offend good Christians in Kansas?  bransonfu   Oct-14-04 12:57 AM   #7 
  - Just a distraction for the pundits..  qcsoapbox   Oct-14-04 12:57 AM   #8 
  - Kerry can say, "I apologize for protecting Mary Cheney's right to exist  nothingshocksmeanymore   Oct-14-04 12:57 AM   #9 
  - I would kill for him to actually say that!  Selwynn   Oct-14-04 01:15 AM   #25 
  - Oooooh, good one.  Francine Frensky   Oct-14-04 06:19 AM   #55 
  - Stop. Really.  satellitesister   Oct-14-04 12:59 AM   #10 
  - NewsMax: "Firestorm Erupts Over Kerry's 'Lesbian' Attack"  NewYorkerfromMass   Oct-14-04 01:04 AM   #17 
  - Kind and respectful---absolutely. They came from the heart. n/t  sr_pacifica   Oct-14-04 05:02 AM   #46 
  - exactly  liberal_in_GA   Oct-14-04 07:11 AM   #64 
  - I doubt it  Dookus   Oct-14-04 12:59 AM   #11 
  - Yep  pmbryant   Oct-14-04 01:02 AM   #14 
  - So keep it in the news. The only one it hurts is the Fundies and haters  Vincardog   Oct-14-04 01:03 AM   #15 
  - Absolutely not. Osama quotes will rule the day.  rsammel   Oct-14-04 01:00 AM   #12 
  - Not if we aren't henny pennys over it  sandnsea   Oct-14-04 01:01 AM   #13 
  - please  sonicx   Oct-14-04 01:04 AM   #16 
  - Here in Missouri the gay marrige amendment passed  missouri dem   Oct-14-04 01:04 AM   #18 
  - I like what Kerry said about Mary Cheney  TwentyFive   Oct-14-04 01:05 AM   #20 
  - It's our wedge issue...  CreekDog   Oct-14-04 01:13 AM   #22 
  - I'm in favor of gay marriage too  baltodemvet   Oct-14-04 05:45 AM   #53 
  - I don't think it was wrong of Kerry to say, BUT I do think the media will  jezebel   Oct-14-04 01:14 AM   #23 
  - If someone gave you a million dollars  mellowinman   Oct-14-04 01:28 AM   #27 
  - NYTIMES article. First paragraph. Kerry "looses" 3 votes over comment  jezebel   Oct-14-04 01:31 AM   #28 
     - Overall that entire article leaned more heavy FOR Kerry  nothingshocksmeanymore   Oct-14-04 02:13 AM   #30 
     - I agree, they seemed Bush voters anyway. My point is it is the first  jezebel   Oct-14-04 02:19 AM   #32 
     - AGAIN, BUSH called Mary Cheney a sinner during is Hate of the Union  Catfight   Oct-14-04 08:19 AM   #81 
  - I can't stop thinking about this shit I'm sorry. I'm anxious as hell about  Bombtrack   Oct-14-04 01:34 AM   #29 
  - HER OWN DAMN FATHER BROUGHT IT UP TWO WEEKS EARLIER  ruggerson   Oct-14-04 07:27 AM   #71 
     - When?  Bombtrack   Oct-14-04 11:49 AM   #88 
  - everybody knows she's gay  ogradda   Oct-14-04 02:17 AM   #31 
  - OK--obviously since  Barney Rocks   Oct-14-04 02:23 AM   #33 
  - Here's what Andrew Sullivan had to say about it  nothingshocksmeanymore   Oct-14-04 02:32 AM   #34 
  - Sullivan's got the right idea here  Francine Frensky   Oct-14-04 06:26 AM   #57 
  - Sullivan makes an excellent point...thanks for the post  RedEarth   Oct-14-04 08:32 AM   #84 
  - Let the Republicans defend gay people  ibegurpard   Oct-14-04 02:34 AM   #35 
  - I hope this stays in the news all the way to the election.  Swamp_Rat   Oct-14-04 02:36 AM   #36 
  - That's rich...  dave123williams   Oct-14-04 02:37 AM   #37 
  - What's to spin?  depakote_kid   Oct-14-04 02:37 AM   #38 
  - Personally...  incapsulated   Oct-14-04 02:40 AM   #39 
  - Only if the democrats form a circle and start shooting each other  DELUSIONAL   Oct-14-04 04:03 AM   #40 
  - this has no legs...  humanbeing   Oct-14-04 04:31 AM   #41 
  - Mary Cheney  lfs5   Oct-14-04 04:39 AM   #42 
  - It did come up in the VP debate. Personally  demokatgurrl   Oct-14-04 04:40 AM   #43 
  - Hi lfs5!!  newyawker99   Oct-14-04 10:19 AM   #87 
  - I'm sure KKKarl and his minions will try...  JDWalley   Oct-14-04 04:46 AM   #44 
  - CNN just played the clip followed by video of Lynne Cheney saying he is  jezebel   Oct-14-04 04:52 AM   #45 
     - Look...its not Kerrys problem if the cheneys  KennedyGuy   Oct-14-04 05:04 AM   #47 
        - That's the bottom line.  BullGooseLoony   Oct-14-04 05:06 AM   #48 
        - I agree with you I just hate the media and their desire to play this up NT  jezebel   Oct-14-04 05:14 AM   #50 
  - I don't know about spin  baltodemvet   Oct-14-04 05:13 AM   #49 
  - There's no reason not to. nt  BullGooseLoony   Oct-14-04 05:18 AM   #51 
  - Kerry needs to point out how the Cheney's respect for their daughter...  bklyncowgirl   Oct-14-04 05:38 AM   #52 
  - I posted this earlier...  sgtyellerdawg   Oct-14-04 06:08 AM   #54 
  - We need to force the issue  lwfern   Oct-14-04 06:29 AM   #58 
     - Exactly!  qcsoapbox   Oct-14-04 07:21 AM   #68 
  - Some right wing conservatives might not vote for */* because of the  DropTheGloves   Oct-14-04 06:26 AM   #56 
  - IMO, I wasn t comfortable with it.  Leilani   Oct-14-04 06:38 AM   #59 
  - I would not have said it  Catt03   Oct-14-04 06:49 AM   #61 
  - Absolutely Not. -- Cheney Himself "Used" His Daughter  arwalden   Oct-14-04 06:42 AM   #60 
  - yes, we could lose the spin war if the press concentrates on this  WI_DEM   Oct-14-04 06:54 AM   #62 
  - we don't have "places" we're all Americans  evilqueen   Oct-14-04 07:16 AM   #65 
  - at first i thought kerry should apologize, i was wrong  seabeyond   Oct-14-04 06:59 AM   #63 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-14-04 07:19 AM   #67 
  - Look WHO IS embarrassed by this????  Free2BMe   Oct-14-04 07:24 AM   #69 
  - It's not a big deal  Onlooker   Oct-14-04 07:27 AM   #70 
  - this is a non issue because in the issues ..bush loses  Free2BMe   Oct-14-04 07:38 AM   #72 
  - The media is hurting the Bush ticket more by keeping it in the news.  ladybugg33   Oct-14-04 07:44 AM   #73 
  - No. I say guns blazing. Open up both barrels the hypocrisy that is  MrsGrumpy   Oct-14-04 07:45 AM   #74 
  - It's so (SNIFF) touching to see the righties' concern for homosexuals  Enraged_Ape   Oct-14-04 07:54 AM   #75 
  - Right on. My analysis exactly.  Liberal Gramma   Oct-14-04 08:36 AM   #85 
  - Don't see much of it at all today on the networks and cable  DemocracyInaction   Oct-14-04 08:13 AM   #77 
  - Bush called Mary Cheney a SINNER during his Hate of the Union  Catfight   Oct-14-04 08:15 AM   #78 
  - Mary Cheney was out of the closet. The Bushies have an uphill climb here.  MallRat   Oct-14-04 08:18 AM   #80 
  - Why is it offensive?  Evergreen Emerald   Oct-14-04 08:23 AM   #83 

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