DrDebug
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Wed Jul-05-06 03:40 PM
Response to Reply #3 |
| 5. About the war games part, OEM. Start a little summary |
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Because the "impacts" on both WTC1 and WTC2 were in control of the "Greenberg family" cartel especially WTC1 which was under full control by Marsh, there is the question whether planes are necessary. So I prefer the no-plane option, however they could have installed a plane magnet or a homing beacon at their offices to ensure a perfect hit (personally I think that there never were any planes)
Either way you need to convince people that there were hijacked planes and you need to keep the fast majority occupied and that is where the war games are very useful. Not only does it give the "blimps" on the radar screen, it will allow a small group to engage in 9/11 while the fast majority is playing games which will later add to the confusion of trying to resolve 9/11. 9/11 was also far more extensive than just WTC and the Pentagon. Many things needed to be setup that day, so there would have been flights going back and forth and you nameit.
The same with Ground Zero. The fast majority of people there engaged in the actual disaster, however the OEM was not being used and was by far the best place to coordinate WTC, because it was a bunker high up in the air, so not only did they have a perfect sight on Ground Zero, they were also in a safe place in case a piece of WTC would fall on WTC 7. That place could withstand anything.
The main team at WTC would have comprised of Kroll and Marsh and since those companies have a privatized CIA inside, all kinds of spooks could have been added to the mix. The same could be true for Raytheon which also has an overlap, however EVERYTHING was probably privatized, so no government agencies, since that would endanger deniability.
We can see that Marsh, Kroll, AIG, Raytheon and maybe Citigroup, Fuji Bank and Deutsche Bank were at the heart of the operations. None of those organization can be directly traced back to any government agencies or official and even in their own organization they are just tiny compared to the remainder of those enormous companies, so the corporation also have plausible deniability.
One thing which you would also need for top team. Kroll has several of those in their own organization which are used in Iraq as well. They merged with Armor Holding just before 9/11 and that gave them a top UK team and the best KGB team (remember that was the team during the Cold War. Alpha were the experts). Also within Marsh you two very good teams, so those guys could had the ability to wire all the buildings and set up everything so they could coordinate everything from OEM on 9/11 (because that's the best place).
It makes sense to start with WTC1, because that was their own territory and if that failed, it could be called a weird accident and that's it. WTC2 and the Pentagon were next. Pentagon will be a lot harder to comprehend, because that's an entirely secret organization.
Rudy must have known and was in charge of the Pier 92 that way together with people like Jerome Hauer and many many more. Most of the people on the ground would have had no idea.
I think that that is a plausible scenario.
There are quite a number of corporation where inside trading has occured. The fast majority were insurance companies and a lot of airliners as well, so within these companies there were some people in the higher echelons who knew about it. We'll probably never know who they are because there hasn't been any investigation and all we have is a list.
The number of inside traders was enormous and global, so it wasn't just a couple. Especially Deutsche Bank was the biggest and since the US CEO is also the #3 man at the CIA, it would have been the intelligence community itself who used their own bank because they would never say who was doing it. Many of the others never collected though, so some of the CEOs thought that it was pretty hot. Either way it is one of the few pieces of hard evidence.
The relationship between the companies is that most either knew AIG or Citigroup very well. A lot of companies were not that clean before either and had many scandals. Some didn't though like American Express so in that case it would probably be somebody at the top who acted upon himself and it would not be a board decision.
The part of the Election 2000. That'll be an enormous story as well. The preparation clearly started way before the elections and they needed Bush and his cronies in the White House so the election fraud was very important and the links are there via Greenberg-Traurig who helped a lot during 2000 and later during 2004.
As far as the Bush administration goes, it is clear that many played a part in the cover-up and quite a number would have known from the start. As always most would not have a complete picture of 9/11. Bush didn't. Cheney probably did. Kissinger didn't. Bremer probably did. Most CEO only knew that 9/11 was planned and that's it. As far as government go, it stands to reason that a lot of them knew as well and some participated, some warned, but there were so many warnings before 9/11 that it was not failure of Intelligence. This was an Intelligence success story.
As far as the al-Qaeda terrorists goes, it were the drug dealers in their own organizations who were Arabs so they could be used. The reason why some many are still alive (or maybe all) is because they were drug dealers, so they just have to get used to it...
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Who Killed John O'Neill part III |
DrDebug |
Jul-05-06 01:00 PM |
#0 |

Continued |
DrDebug |
Jul-05-06 01:04 PM |
#1 |
 
Posting multi-part threads is a habit you share with another DD. n/t |
boloboffin |
Jul-05-06 01:14 PM |
#2 |
  
This thread contains amazing research and insight. Is THAT why it's |
BuddyYoung |
Jul-17-06 02:46 PM |
#113 |
 
Showing the big picture and fine detail simultaneously |
Ferry Fey |
Jul-05-06 01:57 PM |
#3 |

It needs a good summary |
DrDebug |
Jul-05-06 02:08 PM |
#4 |

About the war games part, OEM. Start a little summary |
DrDebug |
Jul-05-06 03:40 PM |
#5 |

Here's some links for ya DrDebug |
seemslikeadream |
Jul-05-06 04:26 PM |
#6 |
 
Thanks |
DrDebug |
Jul-05-06 04:30 PM |
#7 |

"Exact spots where they gave way" |
mirandapriestly |
Jul-06-06 01:00 AM |
#8 |

al-Cokeda / Skyways - Martinez and Election fraud mentioned |
DrDebug |
Jul-06-06 04:49 AM |
#9 |

Giuliani ships Twin Towers on a slow boat to China |
DrDebug |
Jul-06-06 06:19 AM |
#10 |

Banco Latinoamericano de Exportaciones (Bladex) |
DrDebug |
Jul-06-06 09:08 AM |
#11 |

Port Authority was 68% liable for WTC '93 |
DrDebug |
Jul-06-06 10:04 AM |
#12 |
 
Their policy to to tell people to stay in the building |
mirandapriestly |
Jul-06-06 01:15 PM |
#15 |

Madrid 11-M also known as 3/11 |
DrDebug |
Jul-06-06 10:55 AM |
#13 |
 
The weird thing is that John Cleary even wrote them a letter |
DrDebug |
Jul-06-06 11:29 AM |
#14 |
 
Iraq oil. Repsol? |
DrDebug |
Jul-06-06 01:29 PM |
#16 |
  
Repsol needs a company profile as well |
DrDebug |
Jul-06-06 01:38 PM |
#17 |
 
Some random thoughts about Repsol... |
DrDebug |
Jul-06-06 05:40 PM |
#22 |
 
Mercenaries EG-coup: Executive Outcome =Defence system limited =Kroll |
DrDebug |
Jul-08-06 11:18 AM |
#40 |
  
Errata. Not a direct link. There is a connection via DeBeers |
DrDebug |
Jul-08-06 07:57 PM |
#43 |
  
Amazing . The name changes fool everyone..nt |
mirandapriestly |
Jul-10-06 12:50 AM |
#46 |
 
From 11-M conspiracy site |
DrDebug |
Jul-08-06 01:48 PM |
#42 |
 
February 2003. The Mbagne dispute between Equatorial Guinea and Gabon |
DrDebug |
Jul-09-06 10:18 AM |
#44 |
 
Most of the people indicted in the M-11 documents were small drug dealer |
DrDebug |
Jul-09-06 06:04 PM |
#45 |
  
Heh-heh, but do you think that was what Atta was/is? |
mirandapriestly |
Jul-10-06 12:54 AM |
#47 |
 
Guys like Hilliard and Dekkers are Barry Seals |
DrDebug |
Jul-10-06 04:41 AM |
#49 |
 
My 11-M hypothesis + additional reading |
DrDebug |
Jul-10-06 10:06 AM |
#50 |

i and i ketch them vampire DrDebug |
seemslikeadream |
Jul-10-06 11:48 AM |
#51 |
 
Jah Nuh Dead! Jah Let I and I catch 9/11 and 11-M |
DrDebug |
Jul-10-06 11:57 AM |
#52 |

11 open questions about 11-M |
DrDebug |
Jul-23-06 10:45 AM |
#118 |

War in Iraq not part of the original plan? |
rman |
Jul-06-06 02:49 PM |
#18 |
 
I don't mean PNAC, because it's bigger than just the PNAC |
DrDebug |
Jul-06-06 03:09 PM |
#20 |

OSP does not predate 9-11: |
rman |
Jul-06-06 04:42 PM |
#21 |

some more on Clearstream and related activities |
rman |
Jul-06-06 02:58 PM |
#19 |

Weatherly Securities Corporation |
DrDebug |
Jul-06-06 07:39 PM |
#23 |

Equally strange GKN Securities |
DrDebug |
Jul-06-06 07:42 PM |
#24 |
 
Freaky. |
mirandapriestly |
Jul-08-06 04:18 AM |
#38 |

I think that many companies were virtual |
DrDebug |
Jul-08-06 05:35 AM |
#39 |

Another weird company: Anderson Davids & Cooper |
DrDebug |
Jul-06-06 07:57 PM |
#25 |
 
Can't find a thing on 'em |
mirandapriestly |
Jul-10-06 12:56 AM |
#48 |

One year ago: 7/7 |
DrDebug |
Jul-07-06 04:34 AM |
#26 |
 
Possible drugs connection to the patsies |
DrDebug |
Jul-07-06 05:43 AM |
#28 |
  
That's right, they exposed the drug angle |
mirandapriestly |
Jul-08-06 12:36 PM |
#41 |
 
Reasonable and Rudy |
DrDebug |
Jul-07-06 07:13 AM |
#32 |

Anthrax and Versar |
DrDebug |
Jul-07-06 05:26 AM |
#27 |

There are a big chunk of Chilean Oil related co's |
mirandapriestly |
Jul-07-06 06:08 AM |
#29 |
 
And our friend Oscar Fanjul who is also from Chile |
DrDebug |
Jul-07-06 06:15 AM |
#30 |

fuji bank |
mirandapriestly |
Jul-07-06 06:24 AM |
#31 |

It's also time to let others continue this investigation |
DrDebug |
Jul-07-06 07:38 AM |
#33 |
 
thank you DrDebug |
rman |
Jul-08-06 03:08 AM |
#36 |

self delete (hit post too soon) |
mirandapriestly |
Jul-08-06 02:19 AM |
#34 |

Avid Technologies, edit work on Atta tape & EMC |
mirandapriestly |
Jul-08-06 03:06 AM |
#35 |
 
What are the odds |
mirandapriestly |
Jul-08-06 03:39 AM |
#37 |

DOD again lost a trillion in 2002 |
DrDebug |
Jul-13-06 07:20 AM |
#59 |

Pentagon finance manager resigns Dov Zakheim |
seemslikeadream |
Jul-13-06 08:16 AM |
#60 |
 
Let's excerpt this part: Flight Termination System |
DrDebug |
Jul-13-06 08:35 AM |
#61 |

THOSE THAT CRIPPLED AMERICA'S POSITION IN THE WORLD |
seemslikeadream |
Jul-13-06 11:04 AM |
#64 |

Bandulas in Babylon. What Did You Do? |
DrDebug |
Jul-13-06 11:28 AM |
#65 |
 
How Much Blood Has To Flow For Your Greed, Babylon? |
seemslikeadream |
Jul-13-06 11:46 AM |
#66 |
  
GET UP, STAND UP |
DrDebug |
Jul-13-06 04:34 PM |
#70 |
  
Haiti 2004 |
DrDebug |
Jul-14-06 09:36 AM |
#83 |
 
Conclusive Evidence of U.S. Role in Kidnapping and Coup |
seemslikeadream |
Jul-14-06 10:04 AM |
#84 |
 
"America was never America to me" |
mirandapriestly |
Jul-14-06 10:41 PM |
#93 |
  
The Corporate Media is the 21st century propaganda machine |
DrDebug |
Jul-15-06 08:09 AM |
#94 |
  
Let America be the dream the dreamers dreamed-- seemslikeadream to me |
seemslikeadream |
Jul-15-06 11:34 AM |
#95 |
 
Know your BFEE |
DrDebug |
Jul-15-06 03:29 PM |
#99 |
 
PINOCHET AND BUSH'S RIGGS BANK THEY DANCE ALONE |
seemslikeadream |
Jul-15-06 04:48 PM |
#100 |
 
Countries participating in Afghanistan |
DrDebug |
Jul-14-06 10:35 AM |
#85 |

That picture of Cunningham is so |
mirandapriestly |
Jul-14-06 06:54 AM |
#79 |

Well, the reason I made the connection was |
mirandapriestly |
Jul-14-06 06:30 AM |
#77 |

Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jul-14-06 07:09 AM |
#80 |
 
TrailBlazer |
DrDebug |
Jul-14-06 07:48 AM |
#81 |
 
Global Hawk |
DrDebug |
Jul-14-06 08:27 AM |
#82 |

Something about the National Geographic: Prof LeBlanc in Flight 175 |
DrDebug |
Jul-14-06 02:05 PM |
#86 |

National Geographic and NOAA |
mirandapriestly |
Jul-14-06 10:05 PM |
#90 |

Global Hawk Technology Capabilities |
mirandapriestly |
Jul-14-06 10:12 PM |
#91 |

9/11 Hypothesis |
DrDebug |
Jul-11-06 08:13 AM |
#53 |
 
Post scriptum: Who Killed John O'Neill |
DrDebug |
Jul-11-06 11:14 AM |
#54 |
  
Prophesy fullfilled |
seemslikeadream |
Jul-11-06 12:07 PM |
#55 |
 
One Love. It was a racket indeed and Marcus Garvey's words come to pass |
DrDebug |
Jul-11-06 12:17 PM |
#56 |
 
Historical Framework / Books / Websites / Videos |
DrDebug |
Jul-13-06 10:39 AM |
#63 |
  
International organizations: Pilgrims Society |
DrDebug |
Jul-16-06 07:42 PM |
#106 |
 
1001 Club / WWF / Wildlife parks with Special Forces |
DrDebug |
Jul-16-06 09:38 PM |
#107 |
 
and the opium production is at an all time high in Afghanistan |
mirandapriestly |
Jul-14-06 06:39 AM |
#78 |

E-Systems (PTEC) software sold to Saudi Arabia |
DrDebug |
Jul-12-06 07:44 AM |
#57 |
 
Nationalize the U.S. Defense Industry |
seemslikeadream |
Jul-12-06 10:25 AM |
#58 |

Stephen Hatfield and Project Anthrax |
DrDebug |
Jul-13-06 08:46 AM |
#62 |
 
How was Kashoggi connected to 911? |
pauldp |
Jul-13-06 01:23 PM |
#67 |
  
Adnan fits in many places |
DrDebug |
Jul-13-06 01:42 PM |
#68 |
  
Adnan is not the type for direct links |
DrDebug |
Jul-13-06 02:35 PM |
#69 |
 
Aside from Rudy being in London on 7/7 |
pauldp |
Jul-13-06 04:36 PM |
#71 |
 
Posts are all here. |
DrDebug |
Jul-13-06 04:47 PM |
#72 |
 
my apologies. |
pauldp |
Jul-13-06 09:25 PM |
#73 |
 
There are many weird people on this board |
DrDebug |
Jul-13-06 09:37 PM |
#74 |
 
it's also weird that most of 'em avoid topics like this 1. Wonder why? nt |
BuddyYoung |
Jul-13-06 09:41 PM |
#75 |
 
Errata: There is probable reason to believe that Stephen Hatfill is not behind Anthrax |
DrDebug |
Oct-31-06 02:51 PM |
#119 |

Science Applications International Corporation |
DrDebug |
Jul-14-06 05:48 AM |
#76 |
 
Link To SAIC and election fraud |
mirandapriestly |
Jul-16-06 12:07 AM |
#101 |
 
Old DU Post on SAIC/Hauer |
mirandapriestly |
Jul-16-06 02:46 AM |
#103 |

Jerome is one of the top suspects. + SAIC's Wayne Downing |
DrDebug |
Jul-16-06 07:56 AM |
#104 |

Tommy Thompson - Jerome M. Hauer |
seemslikeadream |
Jul-16-06 12:30 PM |
#105 |

Hauer looks evil |
mirandapriestly |
Jul-17-06 04:01 AM |
#108 |

15 people in the wireless industry died. All on the planes + Beamer family |
DrDebug |
Jul-14-06 05:44 PM |
#87 |
 
Another Oracle consultant: Jeff Simpson |
DrDebug |
Jul-14-06 05:56 PM |
#88 |
  
that is interesting |
mirandapriestly |
Jul-16-06 12:13 AM |
#102 |
 
Thomas E. Burnett & Peter Kellogg |
DrDebug |
Jul-14-06 09:24 PM |
#89 |
  
Ooh, good one.nt |
mirandapriestly |
Jul-17-06 04:06 AM |
#109 |
 
Flight 93 |
DrDebug |
Jul-14-06 10:40 PM |
#92 |
 
Flight 11 |
DrDebug |
Jul-15-06 12:22 PM |
#97 |
  
A2 Software Solutions |
mirandapriestly |
Jul-17-06 04:35 AM |
#110 |
 
There are more of those stories like Loose Change, but I doubt that |
DrDebug |
Jul-17-06 06:24 AM |
#111 |
 
Flight 175 (+hyperlink to 77) |
DrDebug |
Jul-15-06 02:30 PM |
#98 |

DrDebug every minute of this life is a new home, where ever you are |
seemslikeadream |
Jul-15-06 11:58 AM |
#96 |

American Bureau of Shipping (repost) |
DrDebug |
Jul-17-06 01:43 PM |
#112 |

Costa Rica: 1985 Plot to bomb the American embassy |
DrDebug |
Jul-17-06 06:29 PM |
#114 |
 
What does Oklahoma City have to do with anything? |
boloboffin |
Jul-17-06 06:52 PM |
#115 |
 
Thanks. The state-sponsored Terror pattern goes way back & continues |
BuddyYoung |
Jul-17-06 07:06 PM |
#116 |

Yes. It has a long history |
DrDebug |
Jul-17-06 07:23 PM |
#117 |

Oppenheimer Funds was former Barings Bank |
DrDebug |
Oct-31-06 07:41 PM |
#120 |

Interesting development: Kroll pulls security team out of Iraq |
DrDebug |
Nov-03-06 03:06 PM |
#121 |
 
Sounds like they know something. |
mirandapriestly |
Nov-04-06 12:20 AM |
#122 |

this deserves... |
wildbilln864 |
Nov-04-06 12:20 PM |
#123 |

August 17, 2001 |
mirandapriestly |
Nov-15-06 01:08 AM |
#124 |

here's a kick... |
wildbilln864 |
Dec-10-06 01:13 PM |
#125 |

kicking... |
wildbilln864 |
Dec-11-06 12:11 PM |
#126 |