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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 04:34 AM
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36. That's a damn good article.
I agree that as a "General Theory" the worldview dimension is extremely important in ones day to day attitude toward the barrage of information coming at us.
Under certain circumstances however, "Special Theories" of critical thinking ie logic, can be more appropriate or reliable. For example, if we're evaluating the statement of someone we know nothing about on a message board, the General Theory begins to lose relevance and we're forced to focus on the statement itself. Of course we'd likely take note of any subtle evidence that may be available in a post, but that's treading on even more fuzzy territory, and is best reserved till subtle evidence accumulates.

More importantly I think, when trying to convince someone else that an argument is valid or not, I don't think a strict following of the rules of logic can lead the discussion away from truth. I realize that the worldview dimension is more closely related with attacking the body of arguments someone has presented than with attacking the person(ad hominem) but still, the next claim after 30 false ones may be truthful. ;)
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  -Do right wing trolls who support wild conspiracy theories exist? greyl  Jun-22-06 11:58 PM   #0 
  - do a search for "9-11" and "democratic underground"  mirandapriestly   Jun-23-06 12:18 AM   #1 
  - I agree right up to that last point  salvorhardin   Jun-23-06 02:04 AM   #2 
  - Hmmm, I know exactly where you're coming from, however  greyl   Jun-23-06 10:57 AM   #6 
     - Well, it's complicated  salvorhardin   Jun-23-06 01:37 PM   #7 
        - Ah, very nicely done. The art of critical thinking.  greyl   Jun-23-06 01:59 PM   #8 
        - There isn't anything wrong with using both barrels  salvorhardin   Jun-23-06 03:11 PM   #9 
           - That's a damn good article.  greyl   Jun-28-06 04:34 AM   #36 
              - I disagree... sort of.  salvorhardin   Jun-28-06 10:51 AM   #43 
                 - No you don't. ;)  greyl   Jun-28-06 10:50 PM   #49 
                    - I didn't think of it as a whole disagreement  salvorhardin   Jun-28-06 11:51 PM   #52 
                       - I really like "The Art of Critical Thinking" idea.  greyl   Jun-29-06 12:46 AM   #53 
                          - "Art of Critical Thinking"  salvorhardin   Jun-29-06 12:58 AM   #54 
                             - If only  greyl   Jun-29-06 01:12 AM   #55 
                                - So, you're saying  salvorhardin   Jun-29-06 01:24 AM   #56 
                                   - that's Exactly what I'm saying.  greyl   Jun-29-06 02:10 AM   #57 
        - Communities of expertise.  MervinFerd   Jun-24-06 02:25 PM   #12 
           - Yes! Absolutely!  salvorhardin   Jun-24-06 03:07 PM   #14 
              - Yes. The New World Order?  MervinFerd   Jun-25-06 10:34 AM   #17 
  - Imagine someone with this posting record  HamdenRice   Jun-23-06 10:18 AM   #3 
  - Hmm, the results in GD were very different.  greyl   Jun-23-06 10:19 AM   #4 
  - Imagine someone with a lengthy record of posting lies. nt  greyl   Mar-04-07 05:55 AM   #67 
  - Define "support". Plenty of RW trolls PROMOTE the 9/11 OCT  Americus   Jun-23-06 10:30 AM   #5 
  - I didn't vote but I want to say this..  DemInDistress   Jun-23-06 10:11 PM   #10 
  - But do they fly Holographic Airplanes?  MervinFerd   Jun-24-06 02:36 PM   #13 
     - Well said again! n/t  salvorhardin   Jun-24-06 03:08 PM   #15 
  - Moon landing hoax is FOX's favorite  rman   Jun-24-06 10:25 AM   #11 
  - I have a friend  CJCRANE   Jun-25-06 03:05 PM   #22 
  - Yep, RW-ers love to tell you what you think,  rman   Jun-26-06 03:50 AM   #27 
     - Yes - that's the other one!  CJCRANE   Jun-26-06 04:22 AM   #30 
     - I was accused of that just for being against the Iraq war  Lilith Velkor   Jun-29-06 12:35 PM   #60 
  - You don't have to believe something to "support it" on a message board.  greyl   Jun-25-06 11:55 PM   #23 
     - Tell me about it.  rman   Jun-26-06 03:51 AM   #28 
        - Do you really? Please tell me about it. nt  greyl   Jul-31-06 04:15 AM   #61 
  - Liberal 'corporate' media /nt  libertypirate   Jun-24-06 06:38 PM   #16 
  - There is a difference between ...  Rich Hunt   Jun-25-06 12:31 PM   #18 
  - Yes, it's not so far fetched  mirandapriestly   Jun-25-06 01:49 PM   #21 
  - I would call them a troll as well.  greyl   Jun-25-06 11:58 PM   #24 
  - Absolutely yes.  Tin Man   Jun-25-06 12:58 PM   #19 
  - Sure. Islamofacism is a threat, Al Qaeda terror cells exist,  dailykoff   Jun-25-06 01:23 PM   #20 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jun-25-06 11:59 PM   #25 
  - Not so quick  rman   Jun-26-06 04:01 AM   #29 
     - Uhhhhhhhh. Isn't that what a lot of us Shills have been saying?  MervinFerd   Jun-29-06 06:17 AM   #58 
  - Your O.P. doesn't make any sense  mirandapriestly   Jun-26-06 12:24 AM   #26 
  - Maybe he's trying to suggest/promote the idea that right-wing trolls  BuddyYoung   Jun-26-06 09:52 AM   #31 
     - Where would someone with any reading comprehension skills get that idea?  greyl   Jun-26-06 10:31 AM   #32 
        - I'm sorry about your "caboose" problem, but IMO it really DOES seem  BuddyYoung   Jun-26-06 12:10 PM   #33 
           - That's in total support of my point  greyl   Jun-28-06 03:50 AM   #35 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-28-06 10:04 AM   #42 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-28-06 04:21 PM   #47 
                 - Dearest Buddy Young,  greyl   Jun-28-06 10:29 PM   #48 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-27-06 03:29 AM   #34 
  - Conspiracy Theories ARE Right Wing. Inherently and unavoidably.  MervinFerd   Jun-28-06 06:49 AM   #37 
  - The government is not an evil force  DoYouEverWonder   Jun-28-06 07:55 AM   #38 
     - "People" are and evil force? Wow! I kind of like people.  MervinFerd   Jun-28-06 09:04 AM   #39 
        - I was referring you  DoYouEverWonder   Jun-28-06 09:19 AM   #40 
           - The WH can do nothing without the 'people' who do the actual work.  MervinFerd   Jun-28-06 10:04 AM   #41 
              - People follow orders and try not to make trouble  Lilith Velkor   Jun-29-06 12:23 PM   #59 
  - re: right wing trolls  PerpetualYnquisitive   Jun-28-06 11:28 AM   #44 
  - I don't know about that  salvorhardin   Jun-28-06 12:40 PM   #45 
     - Oh please not a jam band.  greyl   Jun-28-06 11:19 PM   #50 
        - Yes, yes, I think you've nailed the essence  salvorhardin   Jun-28-06 11:37 PM   #51 
  - A statement I agree with...  Hope2006   Jun-28-06 02:01 PM   #46 
  - .  greyl   Dec-20-06 02:55 PM   #62 
  - Kick.nt  greyl   Mar-04-07 05:19 AM   #63 
  - Hey look over here:  CJCRANE   Mar-04-07 05:35 AM   #64 
  - The authenticity of that video was never in question other  greyl   Mar-04-07 05:45 AM   #65 
     - Cool go ahead.  CJCRANE   Mar-04-07 05:51 AM   #66 
        - How can I impress upon you that this labeling bullshit is worthless?  greyl   Mar-04-07 05:58 AM   #68 
           - I was joking!  CJCRANE   Mar-04-07 06:00 AM   #69 
           - The authenticity of that video isn't up for debate. nt  greyl   Mar-04-07 06:06 AM   #70 
              - Fair enough.  CJCRANE   Mar-04-07 06:12 AM   #72 
           - You are using labels also  Hope2006   Mar-04-07 06:09 AM   #71 
              - Is it ok, or isn't it? nt  greyl   Mar-04-07 06:25 AM   #73 
  - i can't answer your question because i'm not sure i get it  barbtries   Mar-04-07 10:04 AM   #74 
     - The biggest conspiracy websites are right wing  SocraticTruths   Mar-04-07 10:35 AM   #75 

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