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31. Iran-Contra for dummies
Edited on Sun Jun-18-06 07:11 AM by DrDebug
To answer your question what Coke can buy, we have to look at Iran-Contra which appears to be very similar to this thing and there are even interlinking players and companies.


Simpilified overview on the inner working

October Surprise X-Files (Part 7): Bush & a CIA Power Play
By Robert Parry

(...) at 2:12 p.m., Oct. 27, 1980, George Bush called Richard Allen, a senior Reagan foreign policy adviser who was keeping tabs on Carter's hostage progress. Bush ordered Allen to find out what he could about Connally's tip. Allen's notes, which I discovered many years later in an obscure Capitol Hill storage room, made clear that Bush was in charge.

"Geo Bush," Allen's notes began, "JBC -- already made deal. Israelis delivered last wk spare pts. via Amsterdam. Hostages out this wk. Moderate Arabs upset. French have given spares to Iraq and know of JC deal w/Iran. JBC unsure what we should do. RVA to act if true or not."

http://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/xfile7.html

Codes used:
Geo Bush = George H.W. Bush
JBC = John Connally
Spare pts / spares = Weapons
RVA = Richard Allen
JC = Jimmy Carter
JC deal = October Surprise, ie. keeping the hostages until after the election of Ronald Reagan.



That little game was totally financed with drugs money and it paid for:
  • The kick starter: President Reagan and Vice President George H.W. Bush
  • Guerrilla warfare in Central and South America
  • A war between Iraq and Iran

    Was the Ayatollah working with Bush against Carter? According to this document they had a deal as well:

    Boomerang
    How our covert wars have created enemies across the Middle East and brought terror to America.
    by Mark Zepezauer
    Common Courage Press, 2003, paper

    (...) Khomeini was indeed willing to bargain for military equipment. But unfortunately for the Carter administration, according to investigative journalist Robert Parry, the bargain was made with a group of ex-CIA officers who supported the Reagan-Bush presidential campaign. Abolhassan Bani-Sadr was the civilian president of Iran in the first year of the revolution. In his memoirs, he explained that Khomeini's anti-American rhetoric was just show business for the masses, and that behind the scenes the Ayatollah had no problems dealing with the "Great Satan." For instance, in 1983 the U.S. secretly provided lists of leftist infiltrators in the Iranian government, which Khomeini used for mass roundups and executions.

    According to numerous witnesses, representatives of the mullahs met in Paris with William Casey (later named CIA director) and other Reagan campaign officials in October 1980. This was done behind Carter's back and also behind Bani-Sadr's back, and though both caught wind of what was happening, they were unable to stop it. Iran agreed to keep the hostages until Carter was defeated for reelection, in return for $40 million in military equipment. Shipments of U.S. arms through Israel commenced shortly (5 minutes) after Reagan was inaugurated. About the same time Bani Sadr was forced from office and fled Iran under threat of assassination. The nationalist fervor surrounding the embassy seizure allowed Khomeini and the mullahs to purge centrists from the government; soon clerics controlled both the judiciary and the military. (...)

    http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Zepezauer_Mark/Iran_B...


    Atta's trip to Canada

    The Official Conspiracy Theory is one huge pile of lies. And that it was drug running operation in Florida just got covered up as well, because maybe the Venice Atta team needed to be dissolved and they agreed to be the patsies for 9/11, because that cleared them from the real deal. So Atta made his appearance in Portland just before leaving the US and was in Canada before the airplane hit the WTC. Some of the other names - many of which are still alive - are just random names picked from a bag, however they needed some other guys with a story, like Atta.
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      Skyway Aircraft investors (6/5 Madcow Update on the 5.5T Bust) Old and In the Way  Jun-11-06 12:33 AM   #0 
       More intrigue,thanks OaItW  mirandapriestly   Jun-11-06 12:41 PM   #1 
       Also a good way to demonize OBL, Atta et al. and Al Qaeda, too.  Americus   Jun-11-06 01:04 PM   #2 
          I just started The Armed Madhouse by Greg Palast  mirandapriestly   Jun-11-06 01:21 PM   #3 
             I read one thing that purportedly was said by OBL  newspeak   Sep-11-06 04:44 PM   #101 
       The original (first) owner of Skyway is interesting too  DrDebug   Jun-13-06 11:03 AM   #4 
       Fascinating, all of these intersections with the Bush family.  Old and In the Way   Jun-13-06 01:53 PM   #5 
       And 30 years of bin Laden family coincidences as well  DrDebug   Jun-13-06 02:03 PM   #6 
       With all DU respect, Not-So, 43 years...  Octafish   Jul-28-06 04:00 PM   #84 
       Skyway's 2 tons in Paris in 1999  DrDebug   Jun-14-06 05:51 PM   #7 
       Sounds like it's all a guise for drug smuggling  mirandapriestly   Jun-15-06 12:59 AM   #8 
          Globalresearch has the UN figures  DrDebug   Jun-15-06 02:57 AM   #9 
          Yeah I saw a documentary on Iranian heroin addicts  mirandapriestly   Jun-15-06 04:21 AM   #10 
             It's all about GOD  DrDebug   Jun-15-06 05:26 AM   #11 
                I always knew there was a reason Jeb was in florida  mirandapriestly   Jun-15-06 12:32 PM   #12 
                   Celerino Castillo was a hero  DrDebug   Jun-15-06 01:29 PM   #13 
                      and the "hijacker's" lifestyle  mirandapriestly   Jun-17-06 02:25 AM   #22 
                         Their lifestyle is very much the same  DrDebug   Jun-17-06 08:21 AM   #25 
                            Oryx Investments - Wallace Hilliard and the Lear Jet  DrDebug   Jun-18-06 08:01 PM   #35 
                            Miscellaneous and weird stuff  DrDebug   Jun-19-06 08:49 AM   #36 
                               Guantanamo Bay, Rum Cay and CIA Rendition Flights  DrDebug   Jun-19-06 08:59 PM   #38 
                                  Great compilations, Doc!  Old and In the Way   Jun-19-06 09:10 PM   #39 
                                     This thing can be solved  DrDebug   Jun-19-06 09:38 PM   #41 
                                        Errata: strike South America. Different ways of transport  DrDebug   Jun-21-06 05:23 PM   #61 
                            but the Congress-Bundestag Program sounds legit  mirandapriestly   Jun-21-06 12:50 AM   #56 
                               It's a legit student transfer program  DrDebug   Jun-21-06 01:04 AM   #57 
          You've probably seen this before.  Bushwick Bill   Jun-15-06 04:14 PM   #18 
             The problem with amounts is that they vary  DrDebug   Jun-15-06 04:27 PM   #19 
             With those numbers,  mirandapriestly   Jun-17-06 02:28 AM   #23 
                You need white and black  DrDebug   Jun-17-06 09:08 AM   #26 
       What does everyone think of Hopsicker?  Bushwick Bill   Jun-15-06 02:36 PM   #14 
       Always evaluate the source  DrDebug   Jun-15-06 02:40 PM   #15 
       In case of this story  DrDebug   Jun-15-06 03:09 PM   #16 
       Well the info about the planes and the cocaine was from AP  mirandapriestly   Jun-17-06 02:30 AM   #24 
       Who is "citizenspook" to make any claims against Hopsicker?  Minstrel Boy   Jul-28-06 05:16 PM   #85 
       Continuing: The Skyway timeline (1980-1999; unk-5,5 tons)  DrDebug   Jun-15-06 03:53 PM   #17 
       Two years ago, Judge Glenn called this case "murky.” (Madcow Jun 5 2006)  DrDebug   Jun-16-06 11:34 AM   #20 
          Skyway, Red Sea Management and Pastrani's Vanish on Demand  DrDebug   Jun-16-06 03:59 PM   #21 
          Flight N900SA  DrDebug   Jun-17-06 02:14 PM   #27 
             A Framework for cia-drugs - N900SA and other 9/11 relateds  loisbatt   Jul-12-06 02:01 AM   #72 
                Welcome  DrDebug   Jul-12-06 07:02 AM   #73 
                Adnan Khashoggi, the CIA & American Support of Middle Eastern Terrorism  DrDebug   Jul-12-06 01:21 PM   #74 
                To get a sense of what Safari Club was  DrDebug   Jul-12-06 01:56 PM   #75 
                al-Cokeda, 9/11, Safari Club, Heritage Foundation, Le Cercle  DrDebug   Jul-12-06 03:17 PM   #76 
                N900SA  HowardAltman   Jul-30-06 11:33 AM   #86 
          You're not talking to yourself  mirandapriestly   Jun-19-06 09:27 PM   #40 
       Any guess about why none of the OCT'ers have responded to this?  Americus   Jun-17-06 04:51 PM   #28 
       Doesn't matter. The story is about done. ( + disclaimer )  DrDebug   Jun-17-06 05:52 PM   #29 
       Fascinating compilation Doc!  Old and In the Way   Jun-18-06 01:44 AM   #30 
          Iran-Contra for dummies  DrDebug   Jun-18-06 06:57 AM   #31 
             Interesting speculation about Atta flying to Canada.  Old and In the Way   Jun-18-06 10:22 AM   #32 
             My speculation is about Atta just showing his face  DrDebug   Jun-18-06 10:42 AM   #33 
             To keep everything together. The Doubles thread  DrDebug   Jun-18-06 04:52 PM   #34 
             recently Hani Hanfour's former partner(?) was found  mirandapriestly   Jun-20-06 05:12 AM   #45 
                I'm guessing...  Dead_Parrot   Jun-20-06 06:36 AM   #47 
                   It's a very interesting story  DrDebug   Jun-20-06 07:29 AM   #49 
                      Hi...  althecat   Jun-28-06 06:34 AM   #71 
             That would explain why his dad turned  mirandapriestly   Jun-20-06 03:35 AM   #43 
             Khashoggi as Oliver North, Wargames and Rummie on Sept 10  DrDebug   Jun-19-06 02:23 PM   #37 
                Al Cokeda, heheheh,  mirandapriestly   Jun-20-06 03:58 AM   #44 
                   Election 2000 / LIHOP vs MIHOP  DrDebug   Jun-20-06 07:18 AM   #48 
                   But MSM never reported that the intelligence agencies were running drugs  DrDebug   Jun-20-06 11:32 PM   #54 
                   Found the Riddler link  DrDebug   Jun-20-06 09:12 AM   #50 
                      No, that was after mine  mirandapriestly   Jun-21-06 03:18 AM   #60 
             wow.nt  mirandapriestly   Jun-20-06 03:30 AM   #42 
             Madcowprod: 'Cocaine One' Bust Lifts Veil on Global Narcotics Car  Octafish   Aug-14-06 12:57 PM   #89 
                It hasn't been covered since we are dealing with the Octopus  DrDebug   Aug-14-06 03:30 PM   #90 
       I'd like to know what you think  mirandapriestly   Jun-20-06 05:24 AM   #46 
          Odd that none of the usual suspects haven't commented on this.  Old and In the Way   Jun-20-06 09:01 PM   #52 
             9/11 benefited many.  DrDebug   Jun-20-06 09:25 PM   #53 
                What a great toon......I never heard about this party that Johnson  Old and In the Way   Jun-21-06 02:02 AM   #58 
                I've checked out the JFK part  DrDebug   Jun-21-06 02:20 AM   #59 
                I didn't know about Madeline Brown"  mirandapriestly   Jun-24-06 02:03 AM   #66 
       Afghanistan (Drugs) History 1978-2004  DrDebug   Jun-20-06 06:56 PM   #51 
       Errata, since I can't edit it anymore  DrDebug   Jun-21-06 12:49 AM   #55 
       Last piece of the puzzle  DrDebug   Jun-22-06 03:54 AM   #62 
       FAA refuses to release record on airplane (6/22/2006 upd.)  DrDebug   Jun-23-06 07:02 PM   #63 
       "exactly 16 seizures of 5.5 tons"  Old and In the Way   Jun-23-06 10:10 PM   #64 
       Some of the stories are pretty old though  DrDebug   Jun-23-06 10:34 PM   #65 
          Well Ruppert pushes the Peak Oil stuff  mirandapriestly   Jun-24-06 02:16 AM   #68 
             I know  DrDebug   Jun-24-06 05:47 AM   #69 
       Don't they HAVE to tell us who the owner is?nt  mirandapriestly   Jun-24-06 02:06 AM   #67 
       Interesting market valuations.  Old and In the Way   Jun-24-06 12:35 PM   #70 
       Database Technologies owner involved drugs smuggling  DrDebug   Jul-12-06 08:12 PM   #77 
       so why...  wildbilln864   Jul-25-06 02:01 PM   #78 
       It's not investigated because black ops and secret services run on drugs  DrDebug   Jul-25-06 02:51 PM   #79 
       If bloggers and DUers can find this stuff and put it together....  cyberpj   Jul-28-06 12:53 PM   #80 
       I have a feeling it's because  mirandapriestly   Jul-28-06 01:12 PM   #82 
       Because the MSM companies are extremely large  DrDebug   Jul-28-06 01:36 PM   #83 
       If bloggers and DUers can find this stuff and put it together....  cyberpj   Jul-28-06 12:54 PM   #81 
       Are you also telling me there are NO LIBERAL OR PROGRESSIVE INVESTORS  Sinti   Aug-17-06 02:47 AM   #91 
       This definitely needs a kick!  wildbilln864   Aug-01-06 07:07 PM   #87 
       Bada...  wildbilln864   Aug-08-06 04:14 PM   #88 
       and definitely this...  wildbilln864   Aug-19-06 03:47 PM   #92 
       kick  wildbilln864   Aug-21-06 03:41 PM   #93 
       Maybe it is because it is true...  DrDebug   Aug-21-06 04:32 PM   #94 
       I had a post deleted because madcowprod was deemed an "unrelaible"  Old and In the Way   Aug-21-06 05:45 PM   #95 
          Oh, the irony.eom  mirandapriestly   Sep-15-06 12:13 AM   #103 
       look into this..  flyarm   Aug-22-06 03:45 AM   #96 
       This needs a kick as well n/t  DrDebug   Aug-30-06 04:29 AM   #97 
       Kick  DrDebug   Sep-07-06 05:17 PM   #98 
       A must...  wildbilln864   Sep-07-06 10:32 PM   #99 
       9/11 CIA drugs kick n/t  DrDebug   Sep-11-06 01:09 AM   #100 
       Must...  wildbilln864   Sep-14-06 11:44 PM   #102 
       June, July, August, September. The story still stands... n/t  DrDebug   Sep-23-06 03:15 AM   #104 
       War on Drugs is intended against the competitors of the CIA  DrDebug   Sep-24-06 04:42 PM   #105 
       Afghanistan: Record harvest of 6,100 tons of opium  DrDebug   Dec-25-06 03:19 PM   #106 
       It was all worth it, wasn't it.  DrDebug   Dec-25-06 05:25 PM   #107 
          Doctor ,Doctor...  wildbilln864   Dec-26-06 07:58 PM   #109 
       kick  BrokenBeyondRepair   Dec-26-06 03:17 PM   #108 
       we just can't....  wildbilln864   Jan-01-07 04:21 PM   #110 
       nope; we can't  BrokenBeyondRepair   Jan-02-07 01:23 PM   #111 
       kick!  wildbilln864   Sep-14-07 01:37 AM   #112 
       Another SA plane crashed with coke on board in Mexico  DrDebug   Sep-28-07 04:10 AM   #113 
          Let's answer my own question + 2 year anniversary kick  DrDebug   Jun-10-08 01:53 AM   #114 
     

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