DrDebug
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Sun Jun-25-06 07:32 AM
Response to Reply #60 |
| 62. Part about the planes/missiles |
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Edited on Sun Jun-25-06 08:15 AM by DrDebug
Given the extremely unlikely coincidence that one of the main players occupied WTC1 at the exact point of impact and also had an office in the top floor of the impact at WTC2, the planes become optional since it is no longer a requirement and it could be an inside job with explosion since they had full access to WTC1 and could have worked their way down from WTC2 and maybe had access to Fuji bank as well who was the main occupant at WTC2's point of impact. If it was an inside job, the planes could have been added as part of the overall plan of deceipt and would have increased the likelyhood of installing a massive trauma in the minds of people which was one of the major objectives and they already had a team of Arab pilots working on their al-Cokeda team. Let me stress that the planes/missiles are optional. They could have fitted some sort of "plane magnet" in WTC1 and WTC2 as well, thus ensuring the exact point of impact, however no planes would have been the easiest plan as far as success rate goes and there is photographic evidence to suggest that the planes have been added to the pictures electronically and there are plenty of people here who follow the no planes option as a result. The Pentagon footage is very unclear and doesn't show any plane or missile which is another clue. A fourth clue is that there was a plume of smoke at the Eisenhower Building and there was also massive inside trading on KLM who didn't participate. Maybe the Eisenhower building was part of the overall operation, however it failed and was forgotten about. Attacks on U.S. Change Life at NIH By Rich McManus Photos by Rich McManus, Bill Branson, Lew Bass On the Front Page... The transition from peacetime's reliable routine to wartime anxiety took place in only minutes as NIH employees came to work on an otherwise spectacular late summer morning Sept. 11 and discovered by 9:45 — via office televisions, radio, the web, phone calls and hallway conversations — that terrorism on an almost unimaginable scale was taking place in New York City and in the heart of Washington, D.C. The workday froze as workers tuned in to the news — the World Trade Center towers in flames, and smoke rising from behind the Old Executive Office building near the White House. And some other clippings about the Old Executive Office: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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"Who Killed John O'Neill" video -something new? |
mirandapriestly |
Jun-04-06 03:40 AM |
#0 |

Thank you for this, Miranda |
Hope2006 |
Jun-04-06 03:48 AM |
#1 |
 
It is just one video |
mirandapriestly |
Jun-04-06 03:50 AM |
#2 |

Kicking my own thread |
mirandapriestly |
Jun-04-06 04:16 PM |
#3 |

I watched it |
Hope2006 |
Jun-04-06 05:41 PM |
#4 |

I chose to download from google/video and with my dial up |
DemInDistress |
Jun-04-06 08:04 PM |
#5 |
 
"Jews against Zionism" doesn't have anything to do with |
mirandapriestly |
Jun-04-06 09:25 PM |
#6 |

miranda, no racism or jewish disrespect intended here, just an inquiry |
DemInDistress |
Jun-05-06 12:08 AM |
#7 |

I didn't mean you , DiD, I should have made myself more clear |
mirandapriestly |
Jun-05-06 12:25 AM |
#8 |
 
I am going to post a major flash on the sw side of wt2.. |
DemInDistress |
Jun-05-06 12:59 AM |
#9 |

Zionism in its current form |
rman |
Jun-05-06 07:32 AM |
#11 |

Pssssttt.... all Israeli's are NOT Jewish. |
Clark2008 |
Dec-10-06 07:44 PM |
#156 |

that particular poster (DemInDistress) was tombstoned |
Anarcho-Socialist |
Dec-12-06 06:17 AM |
#157 |

Wanted to add |
Hope2006 |
Jun-05-06 06:54 AM |
#10 |
 
only that guy was civil.nt |
mirandapriestly |
Jun-08-06 11:12 PM |
#14 |

Thanks for the link. |
pauldp |
Jun-05-06 12:07 PM |
#12 |
 
I noticed that -no physical evidence |
mirandapriestly |
Jun-06-06 05:14 AM |
#13 |

Bump for people to watch |
mirandapriestly |
Jun-08-06 11:15 PM |
#15 |

Kick. I usually don't like 2 hour downloads, but this was awesome |
DrDebug |
Jun-14-06 04:44 PM |
#16 |
 
Short Summary: Means, Motive, Opportunity |
DrDebug |
Jun-26-06 06:42 PM |
#84 |
  
keep digging.... |
tyrauber |
Jun-27-06 05:41 PM |
#96 |
 
Feel free to add any sublink to this story |
DrDebug |
Jun-27-06 05:59 PM |
# |
  
Blackstone / Silverstein / Enormous Insurance Scam |
DrDebug |
Jun-27-06 06:58 PM |
#102 |
 
ACE's WilProp to prevent Silverstein's double whammy |
DrDebug |
Jun-27-06 07:50 PM |
#104 |
 
Silverstein is suing for payment |
mirandapriestly |
Jun-30-06 04:32 AM |
#126 |
 
Indeed. That's a weird part as well |
DrDebug |
Jun-30-06 11:07 AM |
#133 |
 
The following weird list |
DrDebug |
Jun-30-06 12:49 PM |
#134 |
 
One thing about CFR etc. |
DrDebug |
Jun-27-06 07:24 PM |
#103 |
 
You, sir, are correct. |
tyrauber |
Jun-27-06 05:33 PM |
#94 |

Welcome to the Dungeon |
DrDebug |
Jun-27-06 05:39 PM |
#95 |

Kroll Inc in Brazil a.k.a. Brazil's biggest corporate scandal |
DrDebug |
Jun-20-06 11:02 AM |
#17 |
 
Kroll - A private CIA |
mirandapriestly |
Jun-20-06 07:17 PM |
#18 |
  
I think it has something to do with Poppy's privatized CIA |
DrDebug |
Jun-20-06 07:38 PM |
#19 |
   
and they profited hugely from 911.nt |
mirandapriestly |
Jun-20-06 08:58 PM |
#21 |
   
And they can operate for various governments. Kroll working for Russia |
DrDebug |
Jun-26-06 05:37 PM |
#83 |
  
Marsh is Kroll + Definition Risk Management |
DrDebug |
Jun-20-06 08:20 PM |
#20 |
 
WTC 1 impact was at Marsh!! |
DrDebug |
Jun-21-06 09:48 PM |
#29 |
  
Insurance fraud from an insurance company! |
DrDebug |
Jun-21-06 10:25 PM |
#32 |
   
I read somewhere the reason why the insurance co's |
mirandapriestly |
Jun-23-06 03:14 AM |
#41 |
    
They are very good at hiding and covering up. About white/black |
DrDebug |
Jun-23-06 05:38 AM |
#49 |
   
I've been trying to get people to talk about marsh |
mirandapriestly |
Jun-23-06 03:25 AM |
#42 |
    
Just keep on talking to people |
DrDebug |
Jun-23-06 03:41 AM |
#44 |
    
One thing which will help if there is a good summary |
DrDebug |
Jun-23-06 04:30 AM |
#46 |
     
The Script is on the way! |
tyrauber |
Jun-27-06 05:59 PM |
#99 |
    
Keep it simple and in HTML |
DrDebug |
Jun-27-06 06:02 PM |
#100 |
    
The relationship is that they are all intermixed (+Overview) |
DrDebug |
Jun-23-06 05:53 PM |
#54 |
   
Demopedia on JM/WAVE |
mirandapriestly |
Jun-30-06 03:45 AM |
#125 |
   
Paul Bremer and Marsh Crisis Consulting |
DrDebug |
Jun-23-06 09:42 AM |
#51 |
  
Paul Bremer bio |
DrDebug |
Jun-23-06 05:09 PM |
#52 |
  
He started the full scale insurgency in Iraq |
DrDebug |
Jun-23-06 09:42 PM |
#56 |
  
which means if they are involved they could have |
mirandapriestly |
Jun-21-06 11:20 PM |
#33 |
   
Marsh did it |
DrDebug |
Jun-21-06 11:29 PM |
#34 |
  
Disclaimer |
DrDebug |
Jun-22-06 04:54 AM |
#39 |
  
So Marsh=Kroll=CIA, kind of? |
mirandapriestly |
Jun-23-06 03:36 AM |
#43 |
  
The CIA got split in lots of companies |
DrDebug |
Jun-23-06 03:46 AM |
#45 |
  
How many coincidences can 9/11 hold before they turn into evidence? |
Old and In the Way |
Jun-23-06 05:44 PM |
#53 |
   
I think we are fitting the puzzle |
DrDebug |
Jun-23-06 06:00 PM |
#55 |
  
Now, that *is* interesting |
psychopomp |
Jun-26-06 10:45 AM |
#75 |
 
How to make a buck off 9/11 + Marsh pre-9/11 inside trading |
DrDebug |
Jun-24-06 07:15 AM |
#57 |
  
Deutsche Bank / Mayo Shattuck III's early retirement / CIA / Promis |
DrDebug |
Jun-26-06 03:24 PM |
#79 |
  
good finds, I hadn't seen those connections made before.nt |
mirandapriestly |
Jun-28-06 05:10 AM |
#106 |
  
9/11 inside traders overview |
DrDebug |
Jun-29-06 09:41 AM |
#114 |
 
The Secret World Of Marsh Mac |
DrDebug |
Jun-24-06 10:06 AM |
#59 |
 
Edward P. Felt: BEA Systems and risk management? |
Ferry Fey |
Jun-25-06 11:32 AM |
#64 |
 
Interesting because Andrew talks about software as well |
DrDebug |
Jun-25-06 11:44 AM |
#65 |
  
Errata: They never had an office in WTC |
DrDebug |
Jun-25-06 05:46 PM |
#67 |
 
You ought to post more often |
mirandapriestly |
Jun-25-06 11:54 AM |
#66 |
 
Indira Singh was also Risk software and also 106th floor |
DrDebug |
Jun-25-06 06:40 PM |
#68 |
  
Indira Singh on PTech (Is this software "connection"?) |
mirandapriestly |
Jun-25-06 07:48 PM |
#69 |
 
BEA was direct competitor of SilverStream |
DrDebug |
Jun-25-06 08:05 PM |
#71 |
 
Another coincidence with a competitor Cantor/eSpeed vs Kyoto Mo |
DrDebug |
Jun-25-06 08:44 PM |
#72 |
 
AON corporation in WTC2 lost 170. Also Risk. #2 competitor of Marsh |
DrDebug |
Jun-28-06 05:31 PM |
#108 |
 
Sandler O'Neill and Partners lost 67/180. Big investor in eSpeed |
DrDebug |
Jun-28-06 05:47 PM |
#109 |
 
CARR Futures. Another Risk firm. Lost all 68 people in WTC |
DrDebug |
Jun-28-06 06:01 PM |
#110 |
  
now that is notable. |
mirandapriestly |
Jul-03-06 04:57 AM |
#147 |
  
Carr Parent Co. - Credit agricole Indo Suez |
mirandapriestly |
Jul-03-06 05:44 AM |
#148 |
 
Good find. Calyon = Credit Lyonnais. And Credit Lyonnais was Enronian |
DrDebug |
Jul-03-06 07:09 AM |
#149 |
 
I noticed there is a lot of that |
mirandapriestly |
Jul-04-06 06:51 AM |
#151 |
 
Euro Brokers 61/65 employees. part of Tradesoft Technologies. Risk |
DrDebug |
Jun-28-06 06:37 PM |
#112 |
 
Losers and survivors |
DrDebug |
Jun-29-06 06:50 AM |
#113 |
  
Silverstream Fraud Class Action June 20, 2000 |
DrDebug |
Jun-29-06 01:48 PM |
#115 |
  
Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jun-29-06 04:41 PM |
#116 |
   
Thanks. Very interesting. nt |
BuddyYoung |
Jun-29-06 05:37 PM |
#117 |
  
Global Crossing was there as well |
DrDebug |
Jun-29-06 06:10 PM |
#118 |
  
Errata: Fireman's Fund Insurance Company (owned by Myron du Bain) |
DrDebug |
Jun-29-06 07:05 PM |
#119 |
  
Martin Progressive. "Extremely pleased" |
DrDebug |
Jun-30-06 05:07 AM |
#128 |
 
Hmm, reminds me of how fast DowJones |
mirandapriestly |
Jun-30-06 05:25 AM |
#129 |
 
Whistleblower Andrew Grove blames Kroll for 9/11 |
DrDebug |
Jun-21-06 12:39 PM |
#22 |
  
Their benefit would be the revenues from |
mirandapriestly |
Jun-21-06 08:38 PM |
#26 |
   
It has been overlooked, I can't see exactly how they did it |
DrDebug |
Jun-21-06 09:00 PM |
#27 |
   
Let's throw in Sybel Edmonds again |
DrDebug |
Jun-21-06 09:09 PM |
#28 |
  
Stewart International Airport |
DrDebug |
Jun-25-06 07:17 AM |
#61 |
   
Stewart Airport: recently run with binoculars and TARDIS |
Ferry Fey |
Jun-25-06 07:54 PM |
#70 |
  
Buttonwood International Group. The company that doesn't exist |
DrDebug |
Jun-29-06 07:55 PM |
#120 |
 
bizarre |
mirandapriestly |
Jul-01-06 01:19 AM |
#140 |
  
They probably never existed |
DrDebug |
Jul-01-06 01:23 AM |
#141 |
 
1 WTC 7967 - All companies at that address don't exist |
DrDebug |
Jul-03-06 03:47 PM |
#150 |
 
9/11: The BCCI Connection ( Kroll mentioned ) |
DrDebug |
Jun-21-06 04:20 PM |
#23 |
  
Is he raising the possibility that John O'Neill & Richard |
mirandapriestly |
Jun-21-06 10:08 PM |
#30 |
 
Clarke is BFEE as well. Just not as bad as the rest, but still... |
DrDebug |
Jun-21-06 10:20 PM |
#31 |
 
Good. |
mirandapriestly |
Jun-21-06 11:41 PM |
#35 |
 
To John |
DrDebug |
Jun-21-06 11:52 PM |
#36 |
 
WTC security / WTC hard disks and various |
DrDebug |
Jun-21-06 07:50 PM |
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I don't get why the insider trading can't be tracked |
mirandapriestly |
Jun-22-06 12:09 AM |
#37 |
 
They had to stop the investigation so they bought Convar |
DrDebug |
Jun-22-06 12:23 AM |
#38 |
 
requires an option account.. outrageous is putting it mildly |
BrokenBeyondRepair |
Jun-29-06 08:08 PM |
#121 |
 
Where is the accountability? |
mirandapriestly |
Jun-30-06 04:43 AM |
#127 |
 
hard to say.. |
BrokenBeyondRepair |
Jun-30-06 03:43 PM |
#135 |
 
I didn't know that about mutual funds -makes me sick.nt |
mirandapriestly |
Jul-01-06 01:12 AM |
#139 |
 
Jerome Hauer |
DrDebug |
Jun-26-06 12:52 PM |
#76 |
  
Armor Holdings a.k.a. RENT-A-SPY, INC. |
DrDebug |
Jun-26-06 01:08 PM |
#77 |
   
Alpha Firm. KGB's top team |
DrDebug |
Jun-28-06 12:12 PM |
#107 |
  
Bin Laden: The Forbidden Truth About Bush, Oil |
DrDebug |
Jun-26-06 02:06 PM |
#78 |
  
Louis Freeh -> Thomas Pickard -> Robert Mueller |
DrDebug |
Jun-27-06 08:26 AM |
#89 |
 
Are we to believe this was an isolated incident? |
tyrauber |
Jun-27-06 05:49 PM |
#98 |

The French kicked them out as well for spying |
DrDebug |
Jun-27-06 06:25 PM |
#101 |

Interlinking al-Cokeda |
DrDebug |
Jun-21-06 04:25 PM |
#24 |

kick |
DrDebug |
Jun-23-06 01:23 AM |
#40 |
 
Standard Charter Bank |
mirandapriestly |
Jun-23-06 04:31 AM |
#47 |

WTC7 was spook and intelligence central |
DrDebug |
Jun-23-06 04:38 AM |
#48 |

AMEC Kingstar and Tully Construction Controlled Demolition Inc |
DrDebug |
Jun-23-06 07:49 AM |
#50 |

The relationship between AIG and CIA |
DrDebug |
Jun-24-06 09:25 AM |
#58 |
 
AIG and Mena |
DrDebug |
Jun-25-06 08:01 AM |
#63 |
 
Starr (AIG forerunner) - drugs - Enron - Enron coverup via AIG - Khashoggi |
DrDebug |
Jun-26-06 05:31 PM |
#81 |
 
The CIA sneaked them in |
mirandapriestly |
Jun-27-06 04:20 AM |
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It is weird that we are solving 9/11 and hardly anybody cares |
DrDebug |
Jun-27-06 04:56 AM |
#87 |
 
Partners in Fraud: The Bush and Greenberg Families |
DrDebug |
Jun-27-06 08:58 AM |
#90 |

Example fraud: Tri-Lateral Investment Group |
DrDebug |
Jun-27-06 09:12 AM |
#91 |

The Greenberg Family |
DrDebug |
Jun-29-06 09:12 PM |
#122 |

No plane at WTC 2 either |
DrDebug |
Jun-24-06 01:20 PM |
#60 |
 
Part about the planes/missiles |
DrDebug |
Jun-25-06 07:32 AM |
#62 |
  
Smoke rising from behind the Old Executive Office Building? |
Ferry Fey |
Jun-25-06 10:50 PM |
#73 |
 
I've kicked the post about the Eisenhower building to page 1 again |
DrDebug |
Jun-26-06 05:10 AM |
#74 |
 
That building is pretty big |
Lilith Velkor |
Jun-26-06 04:21 PM |
#80 |
 
That is what makes it strange. There is no report of damage |
DrDebug |
Jun-26-06 05:33 PM |
#82 |
 
From the Pentagon. |
Lilith Velkor |
Jun-26-06 07:28 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jun-27-06 05:28 AM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jun-27-06 05:02 PM |
#92 |
 
Don't know, but check passenger lists, WTC occupation lists etc. |
DrDebug |
Jun-27-06 05:47 PM |
#97 |
 
Airlines + Boeing (inside traitors) |
DrDebug |
Jun-30-06 11:49 PM |
#138 |
 
The helicopters and what looks like another plane in the |
mirandapriestly |
Jul-01-06 01:25 AM |
#142 |

Introduction |
tyrauber |
Jun-27-06 05:11 PM |
#93 |
 
Welcome to DU |
mirandapriestly |
Jun-28-06 04:59 AM |
#105 |
 
I am adding |
Hope2006 |
Jun-28-06 06:29 PM |
#111 |
 
xlnt |
BrokenBeyondRepair |
Jun-30-06 03:03 AM |
#123 |

Welcome to the Dungeon as well |
DrDebug |
Jun-30-06 03:21 AM |
#124 |

thx |
BrokenBeyondRepair |
Jun-30-06 03:47 PM |
#136 |

One of the best 9-11 threads ever. |
rman |
Jun-30-06 05:34 AM |
#130 |
 
Yes, it's a refuge |
mirandapriestly |
Jul-01-06 01:40 AM |
#143 |

Artistically |
Andre II |
Jun-30-06 06:01 AM |
#131 |
 
archive.org is the easiest |
DrDebug |
Jun-30-06 06:16 AM |
#132 |
  
Thanks a lot! |
Andre II |
Jul-07-06 03:19 PM |
#152 |
 
Thanks |
DrDebug |
Jul-07-06 03:42 PM |
#153 |
 
Don't worry |
Andre II |
Jul-07-06 04:17 PM |
#155 |
 
Yes, I'd like to see that all mapped out |
mirandapriestly |
Jun-30-06 10:30 PM |
#137 |

Part II (Continuation of thread) |
DrDebug |
Jul-01-06 02:22 AM |
#144 |

kick |
democraticinsurgent |
Jul-02-06 09:59 AM |
#145 |
 
.. nt |
petgoat |
Jul-02-06 03:35 PM |
#146 |

Part III is out as well |
DrDebug |
Jul-07-06 03:44 PM |
#154 |