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58. The relationship between AIG and CIA

American International Group

(...) AIG is a public company. Its largest single shareholder with 13.62 percent of AIG stock is Starr International Company (SICO), a private company headquartered in the tax haven of Bermuda. Greenberg owns 21.86 percent of SICO. Forbes says Greenberg has a net-worth of $3.6 billion, making him the worlds 132nd richest man. Greenberg was elected AIG president in 1962, CEO in 1967 and chairman in 1989.

(...) Greenberg has enviable political clout, never so much in evidence as when, with the help of Henry Kissinger -- chair of AIG's international advisory committee and a paid consultant via Kissinger Associates AIG became in 1995, the first company licensed to sell insurance in China. AIG was the only foreign firm that owned 100 percent of its license there.

The American International Group at its origins was linked to the OSS (Office of Strategic Services) the forerunner of the CIA. It grew from the Asia Life/C. V. Starr companies founded by Cornelius Starr who started his insurance empire in Shanghai in 1919, the first westerner to market insurance in China.

Starr served with the OSS during World War II, and the Starr Corporation, located in the same building as the OSS in New York, provided intelligence on shipping, manufacturing and industrial bombing targets in Asia and Germany. The companies' biggest shareholder was Starr International Company (SICO), a private holding company incorporated in offshore Panama and with principal executive offices in offshore Bermuda, to avoid U.S. regulation and taxes. Starr left Greenberg a large block of Starr International stock.

August 14, 2001
Part Two of a Multi-Part Series
Michael C. Ruppert

There are mounting holes in the story of a woman, Coral Talavera Baca (henceforth referred to by her maiden name Talavera), who has claimed to be the wife of Medellin Cartel co-founder, Carlos Lehder, deepening the mystery about relationships between her, Lehder himself, the insurance giant American International Group (AIG), and the Central Intelligence Agency. These new discrepancies, including her prior confirmation of the authenticity of documents now suspected of being forged, have raised the possibility that the U.S. Government, in partnership with AIG, has been deliberately planting false information in the press to support the woman's claims about Lehder's reported freedom and activities. Talavera has been simultaneously described as either Staff Counsel for AIG's in house San Francisco law firm or as its office manager.

In Part I of this series we reported that other journalists, who have asked not to be identified, had received the same documents we continue to examine here. Some of those documents purport to be official reports from the U.S. Treasury and U.S. Attorney's offices. As FTW moves deeper into its multi-part investigation - inspired by revelations of possible 1987-92 drug money laundering involving AIG, Goldman Sachs and the Arkansas Development Financial Authority (ADFA) - attention now focuses on Talavera's employer, AIG. These events increased my interest in the 1987 founding of Coral Reinsurance (Coral Re) by AIG, Goldman Sachs (whose then Vice Chairman Robert Rubin served as Treasury Secretary in the Clinton Administration) and ADFA. Lehder, arrested in 1987, was allowed to keep almost $3 billion in assets in a move severely criticized by Merkle. Where did that money go? Was it hidden it in a major insurance company with cash flows large enough to conceal it? This question, more than any other, except establishing Lehder's current status, prompted me to begin this investigation.

What is known about the firm which employs Talavera, who is not a lawyer, and permits her to represent herself as "Staff Counsel" for its San Francisco legal office while simultaneously representing herself as the wife of a one-time cocaine cartel head? On June 22, just two days after I had lunch with her and confirmed that I was writing a story, a receptionist at Brown and Boland, AIG's San Francisco in-house counsel, told me and others that Talavera had fled her employment and gone to Cuba. Yet the firm, located in the AIG building and using AIG e-mail addresses, is currently announcing in new, dated voice mail messages, that she is still the office manager.

FTW has also conducted an extensive investigation into AIG and its predecessors, including the C. V. Starr Insurance Companies, revealing deep connections to US intelligence dating back to the Office of Strategic Services (OSS) in World War II. These connections include documented CIA operatives connected to drug smuggling from Southeast Asia and a current board member, Frank Wisner, Jr., whose father was a key figure in the creation of the CIA. History, as well as AIG's current operations, suggest that these relationships continue unabated today.

Are we allowed to know what is behind the scenes. At least Von Buelow, former German Minister of Defense, seems to think so and said back in Jan 2002 that 9/11 looked like an inside job.

He doesn't like intelligence bureaus either, because even as a mere Minister of Defense he wasn't allowed to know what it was what they did. Just to give you an idea how shadow government they really are.

Former Top German Minister Rejects Official Story Of 911 Attacks

15/16 January 2002

Former German Cabinet Minister Attacks Official Brainwashing On September 11 Issue
Points at "Mad Dog" Zbig and Huntington

Original source: Tagesspiegel, 13 Jan 2002

Your career actually speaks against the idea that you are not in your right mind. You were already in the 1970s, state secretary in the Defense Ministry; in 1993 you were the SPD (Social Democratic Party) speaker in the Schalk-Golodkowski investigation committee--

Von Buelow:
And it all began there! Until that time, I did not have any great knowledge of the work of intelligence agencies. And now we had to take note of a great discrepancy: We shed light on the dealings of the Stasi and other East bloc intelligence agencies in the field of economic criminality, but as soon as we wanted to know something about the activities of the BND (German intelligence) or the CIA, it was mercilessly blocked. No information, no cooperation, nothing! That's when I was first taken aback.

Why don't you speculate on who it might have been.

Von Buelow:
With the help of the horrifying attacks, the Western mass democracies were subjected to brainwashing. The enemy image of anti-communism doesn't work any more; it is to be replaced by peoples of Islamic belief. They are accused of having given birth to suicidal terrorism.

Brainwashing? That's a tough term.

Von Buelow:
Yes? But the idea of the enemy image doesn't come from me. It comes from Zbigniew Brzezinski and Samuel Huntington, two policy-makers of American intelligence and foreign policy. Already in the middle of he 1990s, Huntingon believed, people in Europe and the U.S. needed someone they could hate - this would strengthen their identification with their own society. And Brzezinski, the mad dog, as adviser to President Jimmy Carter, campaigned for the exclusive right of the U.S. to seize all the raw materials of the world, especially oil and gas.

You don't think much of the earlier proposals by the Greens, who wanted to dismantle these agencies?

Von Buelow:
No. It is right to take a look behind the scenes. Getting intelligence about the intentions of an enemy, makes sense. It is important when one tries to put oneself into the mind of the enemy. Whoever wants to understand the CIA's methods, has to deal with its main tasks, covert operations: below the level of war, and outside international law, foreign states are to be influenced, by organizing insurrections, terrorist attacks, usually combined with drugs and weapons trade, and money laundering. This is essentially very simple: One arms violent people with weapons. Since, however, it must not under any circumstances come out, that there is an intelligence agency behind it, all traces are erased, with tremendous deployment of resources.

I have the impression that this kind of intelligence agency spends 90% of its time this way: creating false leads. So that, if anyone suspects the collaboration of the agencies, he is accused of the sickness of conspiracy madness. The truth often comes out only years later. CIA chief Allen Dulles once said: In case of doubt, I would even lie to the Congress!

How did you get the idea that there could be a link between the attacks and the American intelligence agencies?

Von Buelow:
Do you remember the first attack on the WorldTrade Center in 1993?

Six people were killed and over a thousand wounded, by a bomb explosion.

Von Buelow:
In the middle was the bombmaker, a former Egyptian officer. He had pulled together some Muslims for the attack. They were snuck into the country by the CIA, despite a State Department ban on their entry. At the same time, the leader of the band was an FBI informant.

And he made a deal with the authorities: At the last minute, the dangerous explosive material would be replaced by a harmless powder.

The FBI did not stick to the deal. The bomb exploded, so to speak, with the knowledge of the FBI. The official story of the crime was quickly found: The criminals were evil Muslims.

Do you criticize the German government for its reaction after Sept. 11?

Von Buelow:
No. To assume that the government were independent in these questions, would be naive.
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        - Good.  mirandapriestly   Jun-21-06 10:41 PM   #35 
           - To John  DrDebug   Jun-21-06 10:52 PM   #36 
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           - hard to say..  BrokenBeyondRepair   Jun-30-06 02:43 PM   #135 
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  - The relationship between AIG and CIA  DrDebug   Jun-24-06 08:25 AM   #58 
  - AIG and Mena  DrDebug   Jun-25-06 07:01 AM   #63 
  - Starr (AIG forerunner) - drugs - Enron - Enron coverup via AIG - Khashoggi  DrDebug   Jun-26-06 04:31 PM   #81 
  - The CIA sneaked them in  mirandapriestly   Jun-27-06 03:20 AM   #86 
  - It is weird that we are solving 9/11 and hardly anybody cares  DrDebug   Jun-27-06 03:56 AM   #87 
  - Partners in Fraud: The Bush and Greenberg Families  DrDebug   Jun-27-06 07:58 AM   #90 
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     - The Greenberg Family  DrDebug   Jun-29-06 08:12 PM   #122 
  - No plane at WTC 2 either  DrDebug   Jun-24-06 12:20 PM   #60 
  - Part about the planes/missiles  DrDebug   Jun-25-06 06:32 AM   #62 
  - Smoke rising from behind the Old Executive Office Building?  Ferry Fey   Jun-25-06 09:50 PM   #73 
     - I've kicked the post about the Eisenhower building to page 1 again  DrDebug   Jun-26-06 04:10 AM   #74 
        - That building is pretty big  Lilith Velkor   Jun-26-06 03:21 PM   #80 
           - That is what makes it strange. There is no report of damage  DrDebug   Jun-26-06 04:33 PM   #82 
              - From the Pentagon.  Lilith Velkor   Jun-26-06 06:28 PM   #85 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-27-06 04:28 AM   #88 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-27-06 04:02 PM   #92 
     - Don't know, but check passenger lists, WTC occupation lists etc.  DrDebug   Jun-27-06 04:47 PM   #97 
  - Airlines + Boeing (inside traitors)  DrDebug   Jun-30-06 10:49 PM   #138 
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  - Welcome to DU  mirandapriestly   Jun-28-06 03:59 AM   #105 
  - I am adding  Hope2006   Jun-28-06 05:29 PM   #111 
  - xlnt  BrokenBeyondRepair   Jun-30-06 02:03 AM   #123 
     - Welcome to the Dungeon as well  DrDebug   Jun-30-06 02:21 AM   #124 
        - thx  BrokenBeyondRepair   Jun-30-06 02:47 PM   #136 
  - One of the best 9-11 threads ever.  rman   Jun-30-06 04:34 AM   #130 
  - Yes, it's a refuge  mirandapriestly   Jul-01-06 12:40 AM   #143 
  - Artistically  Andre II   Jun-30-06 05:01 AM   #131 
  - is the easiest  DrDebug   Jun-30-06 05:16 AM   #132 
  - Thanks a lot!  Andre II   Jul-07-06 02:19 PM   #152 
     - Thanks  DrDebug   Jul-07-06 02:42 PM   #153 
        - Don't worry  Andre II   Jul-07-06 03:17 PM   #155 
  - Yes, I'd like to see that all mapped out  mirandapriestly   Jun-30-06 09:30 PM   #137 
  - Part II (Continuation of thread)  DrDebug   Jul-01-06 01:22 AM   #144 
     - kick  democraticinsurgent   Jul-02-06 08:59 AM   #145 
     - .. nt  petgoat   Jul-02-06 02:35 PM   #146 
     - Part III is out as well  DrDebug   Jul-07-06 02:44 PM   #154 

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