Reply #16: Kick. I usually don't like 2 hour downloads, but this was awesome

[DrDebug]

I like the part that it wasn't that much about physical evidence which is basically the topic here in the forum and the sad part is that it will rarely proof or disproof any theory, so both MIHOP and OCT are mainly unproven based on physical evidence.

I loved that part about OKC, because it really doesn't make sense that it wasn't al-Qaeda, since there are clues to some Islamic networks as well yet they remained unexplored in the official investigation which was just as sloppy as 9/11.

It was your comment on the Hopsicker 5,5t story which made it really interesting, because this story with al-Qaeda as a drug cartel + Hopsicker's Atta investigation + 5,5t story + Skyway's previous 2 ton bust in 1999 in Paris makes it something worth considering. The whole Mena to Venice story makes sense.

The involvement of the Saudis would then be explained as their jihad against the heathen infidels by controlling their drug trade; for the War Party it would be Shackley's Third Option. It also explains why Osama bin Laden was chosen as the leader of the pack.

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John O'Neill: "The main obstacles to investigate Islamic terrorism were US oil corporate interests, and the role played by Saudi Arabia in it."
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http://archive.democrats.com/view.cfm?id=7352

And we don't even have to talk about concrete cores or whether Atta was flying the planes or whether it was a missile or a Boeing which hit the Pentagon... because those are mere details.

P.S. If we can't have an independent 9/11 investigation, who about an independent investigation into John O'Neill.