Reply #2: There can be no "modified limited hangout" on 9/11

[HamdenRice]

Hi SaiGirl, I think I understand your question differently from Peter Frank. I assume you threw out all those scenarios to ask, what "story" could be disclosed about 9/11 LIHOP/MIHOP that could both throw Bush-Cheney overboard, but preserve the larger militiary intelligence infrastructure capable of 9/11.

I'm generally skeptical of the "limited hangout" theory in general, but I'll take a crack at your question this way:

I don't think that the current system could survive the widespread disclosure and acceptance by the majority of the American public that there was government complicity in 9/11 at either the LIHOP or MIHOP levels. If you were not alive and at least old enough to be a cognizant child or pre-teen in the late 1960s to early 1970s, it is difficult to imagine just what American society looks like when there has been a huge deligitimizing event. In the 1960s to mid 1970s, this happened as a result of a number of devastating public events: the resistance in the south to the widely accepted, morally superior claims of the civil rights movement; the Vietnam war, the widespread recognition that the US was both morally wrong and losing; Watergate and the revelation of a vast array of crimes committed at the highest levels of government.

Sometime later, I when I was in college, working in a library, I was given an assignment to help a professor with a research project. I was asked to printout the first page of the New York Times for almost every day of some year, I think it was 1970. It was sobering. The US Army deteriorated in Vietnam to the point that soldiers simply would not go out on patrol or follow orders. There was a violent riot somewhere in America almost every day from around 1969 to about 1972.And that was just the surface issue. There were small violent underground organizations, such as the Panthers, the Weathermen and the FALN, setting off bombs around the country. And those were the semi-rational underground organizations; bizarre, violent offshoot organizations like the Symbionese Liberation Army or Charles Manson's "family" terrorized cities.

This was all the result of the fact that the US government had been completely deligitimized. The elites decided that they would never let that happen again and through the media launched this campaign that it was unacceptable to criticize the basic premises of our society and that the media would not probe beneath the surface of events.

If 9/11 were demonstrated to have happened as a result of government complicity, the results would be a lot like the late 1960s-1970s. The difference would be that while the 60s divided the country on left right grounds, 9/11 fits into the pre-existing rational paranoia of both the left and the far right. Bush-Cheney would be thrown overboard, but so would a substantial chunk of the political system.

I don't believe that the media would necessarily be able to contain the information coming out about 9/11, but I don't know where this leads. This would be uncharted territory.