| -Why there were NO BOMBS planted at the WTC. |
benburch |
Feb-22-06 11:08 PM |
#0 |
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Huh? |
cat_girl25 |
Feb-22-06 11:11 PM |
#1 |
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why post this today? Are you worried people will re-examine Bush |
yurbud |
Feb-22-06 11:12 PM |
#2 |
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Because of an agument I had in the Thom Hartmann chat room. |
benburch |
Feb-22-06 11:13 PM |
#3 |
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Well one thing is for sure. |
Wilms |
Feb-22-06 11:15 PM |
#4 |
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I would be incline to say that there were demolition bombs... |
SnoopDog |
Feb-22-06 11:15 PM |
#5 |
| -
Really! |
longship |
Feb-23-06 02:14 PM |
#248 |
| -
Chocolate cake is what I prefer... |
SnoopDog |
Feb-23-06 09:05 PM |
#313 |
| -
Have you listened to the audio tapes from the attack? |
FreedomAngel82 |
Feb-22-06 11:17 PM |
#6 |
| -
On that one, I wonder |
upi402 |
Feb-22-06 11:23 PM |
#12 |
| -
So why did the ground shake around the area? |
FreedomAngel82 |
Feb-22-06 11:36 PM |
#27 |
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Okay, I need to see 'Loose Change' for sure -thanks! |
upi402 |
Feb-22-06 11:57 PM |
#48 |
| -
watch it right now on Google video |
Kire |
Feb-23-06 12:17 AM |
#77 |
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thank you so much! I love this place in cyberspace! |
upi402 |
Feb-23-06 12:24 AM |
#90 |
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it was NOT |
sabbat hunter |
Feb-23-06 08:25 AM |
#187 |
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The 767 wasn't fully loaded either. It has fuel capacity of |
petgoat |
Feb-23-06 02:54 PM |
#264 |
| -
Do you mean like the Titanic was built to never sink? |
longship |
Feb-23-06 01:07 PM |
#230 |
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They heard explosions. |
greyl |
Feb-22-06 11:27 PM |
#15 |
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And that is exactly what I expect this would sound like. nt |
benburch |
Feb-22-06 11:30 PM |
#19 |
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There is a tome of transcripts from first responders who heard and saw |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Feb-22-06 11:34 PM |
#24 |
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Uhhh, don't forget the millions of witnesses to two planes |
greyl |
Feb-23-06 12:10 AM |
#60 |
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Except the first responders were In the two towers. |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Feb-24-06 11:30 AM |
#333 |
| -
missiles? |
sabbat hunter |
Feb-23-06 08:27 AM |
#188 |
| -
shoulder fired missles...would be like a pinprick |
petgoat |
Feb-23-06 02:51 PM |
#262 |
| -
ah yes -- the seemingly unlimited supply of kerosene.. |
frylock |
Feb-23-06 05:34 PM |
#300 |
| -
Invisible missiles, disappearing airliners, |
longship |
Feb-23-06 01:14 PM |
#231 |
| -
From where in the fuck did the missile claim come? |
petgoat |
Feb-23-06 02:43 PM |
#259 |
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Correct, it's called catastrophic structural failure. |
longship |
Feb-23-06 12:30 PM |
#222 |
| -
They heard catastrophic failures |
longship |
Feb-23-06 01:24 PM |
#235 |
| -
massive explosions were detonated in the basements |
DemInDistress |
Feb-25-06 03:28 PM |
#346 |
| -
kinda why I lean toward LIHOP |
upi402 |
Feb-22-06 11:17 PM |
#7 |
| -
qualifications? |
Goldensilence |
Feb-22-06 11:18 PM |
#8 |
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Okay, name 1 or 2 other high rise buildings that were hit by 757/767 |
karlrschneider |
Feb-23-06 12:16 AM |
#75 |
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The whole (sic) in the Pentagon. |
longship |
Feb-23-06 12:10 PM |
#219 |
| -
clean collapse -vs- dirty collapse |
bpilgrim |
Feb-22-06 11:19 PM |
#9 |
| -
the possibility of a controlled demolition |
upi402 |
Feb-22-06 11:28 PM |
#16 |
| -
CD? |
Kire |
Feb-23-06 12:20 AM |
#84 |
| -
They where way to many columns |
Twist_U_Up |
Feb-22-06 11:20 PM |
#10 |
| -
High rise buildings aren't like trees or phone poles. |
drm604 |
Feb-22-06 11:47 PM |
#34 |
| -
I know what they are Im a friggin 20 yr Union Ironworker |
Twist_U_Up |
Feb-22-06 11:56 PM |
#46 |
| -
No offense, but I know a lot of 20+ year ironworkers and don't consider |
karlrschneider |
Feb-23-06 12:13 AM |
#65 |
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No offense taken |
Twist_U_Up |
Feb-23-06 12:16 AM |
#76 |
| -
Someone who's sitting behind a desk looking at numbers |
drm604 |
Feb-23-06 05:52 AM |
#171 |
| -
But even educated people leave out variables in their calculations. |
stevietheman |
Feb-23-06 09:38 AM |
#194 |
| -
Thank you nt |
Twist_U_Up |
Feb-23-06 09:49 AM |
#203 |
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Architects don't study demolition either |
benburch |
Feb-23-06 09:42 AM |
#196 |
| -
Well, you are totally wrong. |
longship |
Feb-23-06 01:01 PM |
#228 |
| -
Hi Longship, |
Kevin Fenton |
Feb-23-06 02:11 PM |
#245 |
| -
Hehehe |
longship |
Feb-23-06 02:20 PM |
#250 |
| -
Which building was the world's number one terrorist target before 9/11? |
Kevin Fenton |
Feb-23-06 02:25 PM |
#253 |
| -
The WTC. |
longship |
Feb-23-06 02:41 PM |
#258 |
| -
You have rejected Kevin's thesis without bothering to |
petgoat |
Feb-23-06 03:04 PM |
#266 |
| -
Sorry Kevin, but that theory doesn't fit either. |
longship |
Feb-23-06 03:18 PM |
#271 |
| -
This and that |
Kevin Fenton |
Feb-23-06 04:25 PM |
#288 |
| -
You're over parsing my words. |
longship |
Feb-23-06 04:50 PM |
#290 |
| -
Seven again |
Kevin Fenton |
Feb-24-06 01:20 AM |
#321 |
| -
Stand corrected. 47 stories. |
longship |
Feb-23-06 05:20 PM |
#297 |
| -
You say WTC 7 was uniquely exposed |
petgoat |
Feb-24-06 01:29 PM |
#335 |
| -
Not a global conspiracy |
Kevin Fenton |
Feb-23-06 04:12 PM |
#285 |
| -
Read my posts above. |
longship |
Feb-23-06 05:05 PM |
#294 |
| -
Your Straw Man is Baloney All Right |
petgoat |
Feb-23-06 05:20 PM |
#296 |
| -
Do NOT put words in my mouth. |
longship |
Feb-23-06 05:42 PM |
#302 |
| -
Numbers |
Kevin Fenton |
Feb-24-06 04:13 AM |
#326 |
| -
The 200m drop is an approximation, half the structure is |
eyepaddle |
Feb-24-06 09:31 AM |
#328 |
| -
Thank you for your explanation |
Kevin Fenton |
Feb-24-06 10:05 AM |
#330 |
| -
It's been awhile since I read the OP, |
eyepaddle |
Feb-24-06 10:32 AM |
#331 |
| -
He says |
Kevin Fenton |
Feb-24-06 11:22 AM |
#332 |
| -
wow, you debunker's howl loudly.. |
DemInDistress |
Feb-25-06 05:01 PM |
#347 |
| -
These questions have simple answers, every one. nm |
petgoat |
Feb-23-06 03:06 PM |
#268 |
| -
You cannot know that anyone is completely wrong. |
dchill |
Feb-23-06 05:31 PM |
#298 |
| -
Two theories. |
longship |
Feb-23-06 07:29 PM |
#307 |
| -
I'll take Two B. |
dchill |
Feb-23-06 10:26 PM |
#315 |
| -
ZERO evidence that they were loaded. |
longship |
Feb-24-06 01:57 AM |
#324 |
| -
Name ONE person who witnessed the preparation of the building |
petgoat |
Feb-24-06 01:59 PM |
#337 |
| -
Hey, if he's done here... |
dchill |
Feb-24-06 10:46 PM |
#342 |
| -
Dishonest Framing Yields Dishonest Answers |
petgoat |
Feb-24-06 01:52 PM |
#336 |
| -
evidently, there were several unscheduled safety drills.. |
frylock |
Feb-23-06 05:54 PM |
#304 |
| -
straight down is not the quickest path |
TheModernTerrorist |
Feb-23-06 12:18 AM |
#81 |
| -
It is the ONLY path. |
benburch |
Feb-23-06 12:20 AM |
#83 |
| -
I have to disagree with that. |
Lerkfish |
Feb-23-06 07:16 AM |
#182 |
| -
Underneath was mostly air |
ThoughtCriminal |
Feb-23-06 09:23 AM |
#191 |
| -
right, all I ask |
northzax |
Feb-23-06 11:56 PM |
#316 |
| -
ok then |
TheModernTerrorist |
Feb-23-06 11:25 AM |
#212 |
| -
exactly, most in the center with no damage |
Twist_U_Up |
Feb-23-06 12:26 AM |
#94 |
| -
If that's true |
drm604 |
Feb-23-06 05:46 AM |
#170 |
| -
To answer your toppling question |
Twist_U_Up |
Feb-23-06 12:22 AM |
#87 |
| -
Firemen on a floor that was hit? I never heard that and don't believe it. |
karlrschneider |
Feb-23-06 12:32 AM |
#102 |
| -
Could you please watch this |
Twist_U_Up |
Feb-23-06 01:16 AM |
#140 |
| -
Chief Palmer radioed from 78 (the impact zone) of WTC2. |
petgoat |
Feb-23-06 03:12 PM |
#269 |
| -
I thought you said you watched Loose Change ? |
Twist_U_Up |
Feb-23-06 07:49 PM |
#309 |
| -
selective memory, drawing out the debate |
rman |
Feb-24-06 01:46 AM |
#323 |
| -
Heat not hot enough? |
longship |
Feb-23-06 12:21 PM |
#220 |
| -
Even if heat made the floors drop, the core should have held. |
petgoat |
Feb-23-06 03:15 PM |
#270 |
| -
NO!!! Not true. |
longship |
Feb-23-06 03:59 PM |
#282 |
| -
'MIHOP making things up.' |
petgoat |
Feb-23-06 05:33 PM |
#299 |
| -
hmmm |
longship |
Feb-23-06 08:19 PM |
#312 |
| -
There you go again. |
petgoat |
Feb-24-06 04:25 AM |
#327 |
| -
If thats the case |
Twist_U_Up |
Feb-23-06 07:53 PM |
#310 |
| -
Plus, the building is not strong laterally. |
longship |
Feb-23-06 03:04 PM |
#267 |
| -
Good pic of the shell and core going up |
upi402 |
Feb-23-06 12:15 AM |
#73 |
| -
Good questions. |
longship |
Feb-23-06 02:34 PM |
#256 |
| -
The Empire State Bldg was hit by a B-25 which is less than 1/10 the size |
karlrschneider |
Feb-23-06 12:23 AM |
#88 |
| -
Silverstein owned all 7 buildings |
Twist_U_Up |
Feb-23-06 12:30 AM |
#96 |
| -
Do you have a link to that? I never heard it. |
karlrschneider |
Feb-23-06 12:47 AM |
#116 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Feb-23-06 12:55 AM |
#124 |
| -
Okay, I read it. Putting the word "fortuitously" in quotes (as I just did |
karlrschneider |
Feb-23-06 01:20 AM |
#142 |
| -
Marvin Bush |
Twist_U_Up |
Feb-23-06 01:30 AM |
#143 |
| -
There where 3 or 4 evacuations also |
Twist_U_Up |
Feb-23-06 01:32 AM |
#144 |
| -
If you trace that line of thought, |
beam me up scottie |
Feb-23-06 01:41 AM |
#149 |
| -
I agree people need to look around more |
Twist_U_Up |
Feb-23-06 01:45 AM |
#151 |
| -
I'm done in here. |
beam me up scottie |
Feb-23-06 01:57 AM |
#155 |
| -
find out where these rumors come from. |
petgoat |
Feb-23-06 03:18 PM |
#272 |
| -
silverstein |
sabbat hunter |
Feb-23-06 07:02 AM |
#179 |
| -
no, silverstein leased the buildings |
northzax |
Feb-24-06 12:00 AM |
#317 |
| -
construction |
sabbat hunter |
Feb-23-06 06:58 AM |
#178 |
| -
Re: to (sic) many columns |
longship |
Feb-23-06 01:46 PM |
#240 |
| -
That's not a radical statement at all. |
drm604 |
Feb-22-06 11:23 PM |
#11 |
| -
Mike Malloy interviews author of "THE NEW PEARL HARBOR" - > mp3 |
bpilgrim |
Feb-22-06 11:26 PM |
#13 |
| -
I heard that. |
benburch |
Feb-22-06 11:29 PM |
#17 |
| -
no way a few madmen could pull off all that... |
bpilgrim |
Feb-22-06 11:34 PM |
#25 |
| -
Thank you! |
benburch |
Feb-22-06 11:27 PM |
#14 |
| -
there is your problem... |
bpilgrim |
Feb-22-06 11:32 PM |
#22 |
| -
There was a similar, but much more detailed, analysis done by |
ConsAreLiars |
Feb-22-06 11:30 PM |
#18 |
| -
Here's the summary in Scientific American |
ConsAreLiars |
Feb-22-06 11:55 PM |
#44 |
| -
explosives pre-planted in the buildings in the very areas the planes hit |
petgoat |
Feb-23-06 03:54 AM |
#161 |
| -
radio controlled? |
sabbat hunter |
Feb-23-06 08:31 AM |
#189 |
| -
When you put your pants on it's left leg first, then right. |
petgoat |
Feb-23-06 02:25 PM |
#252 |
| -
im sorry |
sabbat hunter |
Feb-23-06 02:47 PM |
#260 |
| -
im sorry too |
petgoat |
Feb-23-06 03:26 PM |
#273 |
| -
got a laugh |
sabbat hunter |
Feb-23-06 03:39 PM |
#277 |
| -
Heres some science |
Twist_U_Up |
Feb-22-06 11:31 PM |
#20 |
| -
Bad science. I know that report well. |
benburch |
Feb-22-06 11:32 PM |
#23 |
| -
answer me this then |
Twist_U_Up |
Feb-22-06 11:38 PM |
#29 |
| -
Samples of steel WERE saved. |
benburch |
Feb-23-06 12:00 AM |
#49 |
| -
For govt. analysis, noone else, sent the rest to china |
Twist_U_Up |
Feb-23-06 01:47 AM |
#152 |
| -
That's just not true. |
longship |
Feb-23-06 01:57 PM |
#243 |
| -
numerous independant studies of the WTC collapse. |
petgoat |
Feb-23-06 03:28 PM |
#274 |
| -
NIST steel samples. |
petgoat |
Feb-23-06 03:52 AM |
#160 |
| -
Uh, because they were experienced in removing debris? |
longship |
Feb-23-06 01:56 PM |
#242 |
| -
Steel was Saved |
petgoat |
Feb-23-06 03:32 PM |
#275 |
| -
Google's your friend. |
longship |
Feb-23-06 03:33 PM |
#276 |
| -
I have been googling it a long time. You're the one making |
petgoat |
Feb-23-06 05:35 PM |
#301 |
| -
bingo he wont provide the stated . never has |
Twist_U_Up |
Feb-23-06 07:00 PM |
#305 |
| -
Sorry, but I don't trust this guy, he doesn't even know what thermite IS: |
karlrschneider |
Feb-23-06 12:53 AM |
#122 |
| -
Good catch. |
benburch |
Feb-23-06 09:45 AM |
#197 |
| -
You just want to play gotcha. Dr. Jones is not a chemist, nor |
petgoat |
Feb-24-06 02:14 PM |
#338 |
| -
BIG ERROR: 500,000 tons = 453,592,500 KG |
berni_mccoy |
Feb-22-06 11:32 PM |
#21 |
| -
No. 500,000 tons was EACH TOWER... |
benburch |
Feb-22-06 11:35 PM |
#26 |
| -
Then you have inconsistent statements |
berni_mccoy |
Feb-22-06 11:45 PM |
#31 |
| -
NO... |
benburch |
Feb-23-06 12:05 AM |
#52 |
| -
You'll have to provide some evidence that the live load of a building |
berni_mccoy |
Feb-23-06 12:21 AM |
#86 |
| -
Even if true, the result does not change. |
benburch |
Feb-23-06 12:30 AM |
#97 |
| -
Ok, now you are just plain wrong |
berni_mccoy |
Feb-23-06 12:33 AM |
#103 |
| -
No, a 100% error would be ZERO. nt |
benburch |
Feb-23-06 12:39 AM |
#111 |
| -
Oh, and would comparing it to 250 tons of high explosive be enough... |
benburch |
Feb-23-06 12:44 AM |
#112 |
| -
Well now that you bring it up... |
berni_mccoy |
Feb-23-06 01:02 AM |
#131 |
| -
Good point! |
benburch |
Feb-23-06 01:05 AM |
#135 |
| -
Doubling something is adding 100% of a value to itself. |
berni_mccoy |
Feb-23-06 12:58 AM |
#128 |
| -
Depends on which side of the error you look from... |
benburch |
Feb-23-06 01:04 AM |
#133 |
| -
Weight of one tower = 250,000 tons including everything, |
Kevin Fenton |
Feb-23-06 04:37 AM |
#169 |
| -
I used that number in my revised essay. nt |
benburch |
Feb-23-06 09:46 AM |
#199 |
| -
back peddle quick !! |
Twist_U_Up |
Feb-23-06 11:06 AM |
#208 |
| -
500,000 tons in contents |
Twist_U_Up |
Feb-23-06 11:08 AM |
#209 |
| -
Hmmm. |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Feb-22-06 11:37 PM |
#28 |
| -
Finally, the voice of reason. |
fiziwig |
Feb-22-06 11:39 PM |
#30 |
| -
Unfortunately, his math is 100% wrong. |
berni_mccoy |
Feb-22-06 11:48 PM |
#36 |
| -
Nope. You misread. nt |
benburch |
Feb-23-06 12:07 AM |
#55 |
| -
Where do you say anything in your O.P. about doubling the weight |
berni_mccoy |
Feb-23-06 12:30 AM |
#98 |
| -
pp 7 nt |
benburch |
Feb-23-06 12:33 AM |
#104 |
| -
Must have been added after I read the O.P. |
berni_mccoy |
Feb-23-06 12:38 AM |
#109 |
| -
I had some square brackets in there... |
benburch |
Feb-23-06 12:52 AM |
#121 |
| -
you know, Ben, you and I |
northzax |
Feb-22-06 11:45 PM |
#32 |
| -
We agree on enough. |
benburch |
Feb-22-06 11:46 PM |
#33 |
| -
The top floors acted like a |
kster |
Feb-22-06 11:48 PM |
#35 |
| -
This was a force of a magnitude that steel could not withstand. nt |
benburch |
Feb-22-06 11:52 PM |
#39 |
| -
Not all the beams had the same force on them |
kster |
Feb-23-06 12:25 AM |
#93 |
| -
Ok... Big fucking deal... |
SnoopDog |
Feb-22-06 11:48 PM |
#37 |
| -
I'm sorry. Some thoughts, but first a question - |
Skip Intro |
Feb-22-06 11:49 PM |
#38 |
| -
Exactly. |
Blackthorn |
Feb-22-06 11:53 PM |
#41 |
| -
I'm not trying to explain the WHY. |
benburch |
Feb-22-06 11:54 PM |
#43 |
| -
oh - ok. |
Skip Intro |
Feb-22-06 11:56 PM |
#47 |
| -
That is exactly my take on it |
tatertop |
Feb-23-06 12:04 AM |
#51 |
| -
I agree....As much as I enjoy the occasional conspiracy theory... |
JohnnyRingo |
Feb-22-06 11:53 PM |
#40 |
| -
This explanation works fine for the two towers |
eridani |
Feb-22-06 11:54 PM |
#42 |
| -
I always took it to mean that he wanted to pull the firefighters. |
benburch |
Feb-22-06 11:55 PM |
#45 |
| -
Why didn't he say that, then? |
eridani |
Feb-23-06 12:14 AM |
#67 |
| -
And to firefighters. Or so one told me. nt |
benburch |
Feb-23-06 12:15 AM |
#74 |
| -
They didn't fight the WTC7 fire. There were no firefighters to pull nm |
petgoat |
Feb-23-06 03:53 PM |
#280 |
| -
he wanted to pull the firefighters. |
petgoat |
Feb-23-06 04:00 AM |
#162 |
| -
Sorry Ben, but you're math has 100% error in it |
berni_mccoy |
Feb-23-06 12:02 AM |
#50 |
| -
Nope. You didn't read the text accurately. |
benburch |
Feb-23-06 12:06 AM |
#54 |
| -
Even if I give you the benefit of the doubt and even though you never |
berni_mccoy |
Feb-23-06 12:25 AM |
#91 |
| -
I didn't double check your math but it looks right. As an aeronautical en |
karlrschneider |
Feb-23-06 12:05 AM |
#53 |
| -
Have you ever seen Loose Change 1 or 2 ? |
Twist_U_Up |
Feb-23-06 12:08 AM |
#57 |
| -
Thanks! |
benburch |
Feb-23-06 12:08 AM |
#58 |
| -
They needed a "Pearl Harbor"type event |
Twist_U_Up |
Feb-23-06 01:43 AM |
#150 |
| -
why bother with airplanes? |
petgoat |
Feb-23-06 03:48 PM |
#278 |
| -
the towers didn't fall . . . they dissolved . . . |
OneBlueSky |
Feb-23-06 12:08 AM |
#56 |
| -
Yes, actually, they do. |
benburch |
Feb-23-06 12:09 AM |
#59 |
| -
and what caused the masses of smoldering molton steel . . . |
OneBlueSky |
Feb-23-06 12:25 AM |
#92 |
| -
Where the hell do you get the idea |
greyl |
Feb-23-06 01:17 AM |
#141 |
| -
They did not dissolve. |
greyl |
Feb-23-06 12:15 AM |
#72 |
| -
Must have been Godzilla. nt |
benburch |
Feb-23-06 12:19 AM |
#82 |
| -
Molten Steel before the collapse |
Twist_U_Up |
Feb-23-06 12:10 AM |
#61 |
| -
or this one |
Twist_U_Up |
Feb-23-06 12:12 AM |
#64 |
| -
or this one |
Twist_U_Up |
Feb-23-06 12:14 AM |
#68 |
| -
or this one |
Twist_U_Up |
Feb-23-06 12:36 AM |
#107 |
| -
Exactly. |
stevietheman |
Feb-23-06 09:32 AM |
#192 |
| -
What airliner hit tower 7? |
soothsayer |
Feb-23-06 12:11 AM |
#62 |
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Both of them! Indirectly. |
benburch |
Feb-23-06 12:14 AM |
#69 |
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LOL you amaze me |
Twist_U_Up |
Feb-23-06 11:04 AM |
#207 |
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Oh goodie another lesson |
libertypirate |
Feb-23-06 12:11 AM |
#63 |
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A delightful fantasia. Why not set it to music. |
dailykoff |
Feb-23-06 12:13 AM |
#66 |
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Why not? |
benburch |
Feb-23-06 12:14 AM |
#70 |
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A better word would be illusions. |
dailykoff |
Feb-23-06 12:17 AM |
#78 |
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Because you cannot. |
benburch |
Feb-23-06 12:18 AM |
#80 |
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I already have, many times. |
dailykoff |
Feb-23-06 12:21 AM |
#85 |
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Put it in writing. |
benburch |
Feb-23-06 12:23 AM |
#89 |
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For you, I'll repeat myself. |
dailykoff |
Feb-23-06 12:26 AM |
#95 |
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Because you cannot. nt |
benburch |
Feb-23-06 12:30 AM |
#99 |
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There's no hurry. |
dailykoff |
Feb-23-06 12:49 AM |
#118 |
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Thanks, Lihop yes, Mihop I doubt. |
fearnobush |
Feb-23-06 12:15 AM |
#71 |
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I don't believe that WTC would have survived a loaded 707. |
benburch |
Feb-23-06 12:17 AM |
#79 |
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Plus the 707 scenerio was a "low speed" one. |
longship |
Feb-23-06 12:36 PM |
#224 |
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Tom Eagar said the impact was "Like a bullet hitting a tree" nm |
petgoat |
Feb-23-06 03:50 PM |
#279 |
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i do not believe your 707 facts are correct..please check them out |
flyarm |
Feb-23-06 01:04 AM |
#134 |
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a 767 is about 3 times the size of a 707 |
petgoat |
Feb-23-06 04:04 AM |
#163 |
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thats not true..n/t |
flyarm |
Feb-24-06 12:51 AM |
#320 |
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It was a B-25, not a B-29... |
Cooley Hurd |
Feb-23-06 12:34 PM |
#223 |
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not to mention the whole Pentagon thingq |
northzax |
Feb-24-06 12:08 AM |
#318 |
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I don't buy into your math! |
Rainscents |
Feb-23-06 12:30 AM |
#100 |
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The fuel, impact, and burning contents only needed to cause a slump. |
benburch |
Feb-23-06 12:36 AM |
#108 |
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for this to happen |
Twist_U_Up |
Feb-23-06 12:50 AM |
#119 |
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just a small deformation |
petgoat |
Feb-23-06 04:06 AM |
#165 |
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even with a controlled demolition |
northzax |
Feb-24-06 12:10 AM |
#319 |
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Where'd you work with burning jet fuel? What type? |
karlrschneider |
Feb-23-06 12:45 AM |
#113 |
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Noam Chomsky's opinion; |
upi402 |
Feb-23-06 12:31 AM |
#101 |
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Wise man. nt |
benburch |
Feb-23-06 12:34 AM |
#105 |
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MIHOP definitely involves a large number of people |
eridani |
Feb-23-06 01:03 AM |
#132 |
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People said the same thing about JFK too |
Twist_U_Up |
Feb-23-06 01:54 AM |
#153 |
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It would have had to involve a large number of people |
petgoat |
Feb-23-06 04:10 AM |
#166 |
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Chomsky has "looked at some of it" |
rman |
Feb-23-06 06:41 AM |
#176 |
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Thank you. |
drm604 |
Feb-23-06 08:15 AM |
#186 |
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He's obviously never seen |
MrSammo1 |
Feb-23-06 01:24 PM |
#234 |
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"...they'd have had to be quite mad to try anything like that." |
dchill |
Feb-23-06 05:00 PM |
#292 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Feb-23-06 12:36 AM |
#106 |
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Right! |
benburch |
Feb-23-06 12:38 AM |
#110 |
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This post debunks your whole theory |
Twist_U_Up |
Feb-23-06 12:46 AM |
#114 |
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Faulty logic. |
benburch |
Feb-23-06 12:50 AM |
#120 |
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This isnt about just air sorry |
Twist_U_Up |
Feb-23-06 01:06 AM |
#136 |
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Exactly! Whoever wrote that had the simple equations right but did not |
karlrschneider |
Feb-23-06 01:11 AM |
#138 |
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I think they are using an incorrect collapse time. |
greyl |
Feb-23-06 02:46 AM |
#158 |
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Faulty logic? |
Desertrose |
Feb-23-06 01:12 AM |
#139 |
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Pentagon plane; Titanium burning question re; Loose Change |
upi402 |
Feb-23-06 12:47 AM |
#115 |
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it will ignite it just doesnt get close to hot enough |
Twist_U_Up |
Feb-23-06 12:48 AM |
#117 |
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a CNC machine tool's rotational surface friction is enough to ignite when |
upi402 |
Feb-23-06 12:57 AM |
#127 |
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Heres a better description |
Twist_U_Up |
Feb-23-06 12:58 AM |
#129 |
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is Titanium in that Chinese stuff somewhere |
upi402 |
Feb-23-06 01:01 AM |
#130 |
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I've read a lot of so-called "analyses", but this one is the stupidest one |
karlrschneider |
Feb-23-06 01:36 AM |
#145 |
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Those trusses where not continuous. |
Twist_U_Up |
Feb-23-06 01:41 AM |
#148 |
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10' drop of several stories of weight would crush the floor below |
upi402 |
Feb-23-06 09:13 PM |
#314 |
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No it doesn't. It assumes that all that heat was confined to one floor |
Harald Ragnarsson |
Feb-25-06 01:58 PM |
#344 |
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Loose Change cont. -Boeing secrecy |
upi402 |
Feb-23-06 12:54 AM |
#123 |
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I appreciate YOUR EFFORT, HOWEVER........ |
hangloose |
Feb-23-06 12:55 AM |
#125 |
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Super Cosmo? |
karlrschneider |
Feb-23-06 01:38 AM |
#146 |
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A handful guys that knew how to steer an airplane |
kster |
Feb-23-06 12:55 AM |
#126 |
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That is a non sequitur and an entirely separate discussion. |
karlrschneider |
Feb-23-06 01:40 AM |
#147 |
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And their mastermind ran it from a cave . |
Twist_U_Up |
Feb-23-06 01:56 AM |
#154 |
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Loose Change; great point on Ti engines ramming thru Pentagon |
upi402 |
Feb-23-06 01:10 AM |
#137 |
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Don't also forget that ......... |
MrSammo1 |
Feb-23-06 01:20 PM |
#232 |
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If it was CD |
ThoughtCriminal |
Feb-23-06 02:06 AM |
#156 |
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How did they know which floors |
petgoat |
Feb-23-06 04:14 AM |
#167 |
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Not likely |
ThoughtCriminal |
Feb-23-06 09:07 AM |
#190 |
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You can actually see |
MrSammo1 |
Feb-23-06 01:22 PM |
#233 |
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"Placement of the charges is a huge undertaking " |
petgoat |
Feb-23-06 02:38 PM |
#257 |
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Petgoat have you read this theory ? |
Twist_U_Up |
Feb-23-06 07:18 PM |
#306 |
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C4 in floor pans |
petgoat |
Feb-24-06 01:18 PM |
#334 |
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the explosions in the basement...... |
MrSammo1 |
Feb-24-06 03:07 AM |
#325 |
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A proper 'clean' CD requires considerable preparation |
rman |
Feb-24-06 09:35 AM |
#329 |
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Most people who claim the WTC fell "naturally"... |
Kevin Fenton |
Feb-23-06 02:21 AM |
#157 |
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As I said above... |
benburch |
Feb-23-06 06:28 AM |
#174 |
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Your numbers don't check out: |
Kevin Fenton |
Feb-23-06 07:12 AM |
#180 |
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Are you sure? |
ThoughtCriminal |
Feb-23-06 09:37 AM |
#193 |
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Exactly. |
benburch |
Feb-23-06 09:40 AM |
#195 |
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Pretty sure |
Kevin Fenton |
Feb-23-06 09:48 AM |
#201 |
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Ive seen similar mistake often enough |
ThoughtCriminal |
Feb-23-06 10:01 AM |
#204 |
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NIST or MIT |
Kevin Fenton |
Feb-23-06 01:53 PM |
#241 |
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Your points |
ThoughtCriminal |
Feb-23-06 04:01 PM |
#284 |
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Sagging, etc. |
Kevin Fenton |
Feb-23-06 04:51 PM |
#291 |
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Have you tried to contact |
MrSammo1 |
Feb-23-06 01:26 PM |
#236 |
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GOOBLDEEGOOK! WTC 7 was controlled DEMO |
Griffy |
Feb-23-06 03:47 AM |
#159 |
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There is no evidence of this. |
longship |
Feb-23-06 02:08 PM |
#244 |
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Seven |
Kevin Fenton |
Feb-23-06 02:24 PM |
#251 |
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Structural failure does the same exact thing. |
longship |
Feb-23-06 02:53 PM |
#263 |
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Potential energy is not released explosivly in natural collapse |
rman |
Feb-23-06 04:06 AM |
#164 |
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Don't you dare.......... |
MrSammo1 |
Feb-23-06 01:28 PM |
#237 |
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My two cents - visually, your assertions bear out without question... |
Cooley Hurd |
Feb-23-06 04:27 AM |
#168 |
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No, they don't |
Kevin Fenton |
Feb-23-06 06:07 AM |
#172 |
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UA 175 hit the southeast corner and ripped thru the east side... |
Cooley Hurd |
Feb-23-06 06:19 AM |
#173 |
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South wall |
Kevin Fenton |
Feb-23-06 06:34 AM |
#175 |
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Because UA 175 didn't hit the south wall dead-on... |
Cooley Hurd |
Feb-23-06 06:45 AM |
#177 |
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More damage to south side |
Kevin Fenton |
Feb-23-06 07:15 AM |
#181 |
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ya think ? |
Twist_U_Up |
Feb-23-06 11:15 AM |
#210 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Feb-23-06 07:43 AM |
#183 |
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All yer fancy book lernin don't mean nothin. |
progressoid |
Feb-23-06 07:44 AM |
#184 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Feb-23-06 08:00 AM |
#185 |
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The issue is the rate of fall....the rate was almost free fall.. |
Trish1168 |
Feb-23-06 09:45 AM |
#198 |
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Actually they can fall no other way. |
benburch |
Feb-23-06 09:47 AM |
#200 |
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they can fall no other way |
petgoat |
Feb-23-06 02:33 PM |
#254 |
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Silly......... |
MrSammo1 |
Feb-23-06 01:32 PM |
#238 |
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One last comment because you refuse to listen |
Twist_U_Up |
Feb-23-06 09:48 AM |
#202 |
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I did. |
benburch |
Feb-23-06 10:06 AM |
#205 |
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Well one more then ALL FACTS W/Sources |
Twist_U_Up |
Feb-23-06 10:58 AM |
#206 |
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Are you calling me a liar? |
benburch |
Feb-23-06 11:30 AM |
#213 |
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I never called you that |
Twist_U_Up |
Feb-23-06 11:39 AM |
#214 |
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Yes I am saying that. |
benburch |
Feb-23-06 11:51 AM |
#215 |
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People seem to want to have the WTC packed with |
Twist_U_Up |
Feb-23-06 12:03 PM |
#217 |
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Most structural engineers were surprised when the World Trade Center tower |
petgoat |
Feb-23-06 03:58 PM |
#281 |
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Did you see what else most structural engineers said (according to NOVA) |
eyepaddle |
Feb-24-06 03:52 PM |
#339 |
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Well, DU is like a fairly large town and even a village has at least one |
karlrschneider |
Feb-23-06 07:54 PM |
#311 |
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some |
sabbat hunter |
Feb-23-06 02:56 PM |
#265 |
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a majority of the jet fuel went into the building. |
petgoat |
Feb-23-06 04:00 PM |
#283 |
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I love the scene........ |
MrSammo1 |
Feb-23-06 01:34 PM |
#239 |
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Watch the video... |
fiziwig |
Feb-23-06 11:18 AM |
#211 |
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planted at exactly the floors where the impact took place. |
petgoat |
Feb-23-06 04:14 PM |
#286 |
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I cannot comment on the validity of these calculations but one |
truckin |
Feb-23-06 11:58 AM |
#216 |
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BenBurch, thanks for this. |
longship |
Feb-23-06 12:07 PM |
#218 |
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Benburch has been debunked throughly |
Twist_U_Up |
Feb-23-06 12:29 PM |
#221 |
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Debunked? |
benburch |
Feb-23-06 12:41 PM |
#225 |
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just scan the threads |
Twist_U_Up |
Feb-23-06 12:56 PM |
#227 |
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Obvious? |
longship |
Feb-23-06 12:47 PM |
#226 |
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So beyond obvious its silly |
Twist_U_Up |
Feb-23-06 01:01 PM |
#229 |
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Don't worry too much. |
greyl |
Feb-23-06 02:12 PM |
#247 |
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Your gradiosity is self-discrediting |
petgoat |
Feb-23-06 05:44 PM |
#303 |
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I'm MIHOP whats my "Agenda" ? |
Twist_U_Up |
Feb-23-06 07:43 PM |
#308 |
| -
"...every day it becomes a little more clear..." |
dchill |
Feb-24-06 01:45 AM |
#322 |
| -
cast of characters would be in the high thousands |
petgoat |
Feb-23-06 04:17 PM |
#287 |
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Why don't you debunk Professor Steven E. Jones' research? |
woody b |
Feb-23-06 02:11 PM |
#246 |
| -
Again? It's been done. |
greyl |
Feb-23-06 02:17 PM |
#249 |
| -
OK |
woody b |
Feb-23-06 02:33 PM |
#255 |
| -
One rebuttal to Jones and a "thermite reactions" explanation |
greyl |
Feb-23-06 02:48 PM |
#261 |
| -
"damaged building #7 so badly that it later fell." |
dchill |
Feb-23-06 04:37 PM |
#289 |
| -
there must have been |
MrSammo1 |
Feb-24-06 11:13 PM |
#343 |
| -
Atomic bomb releases it's energy in a few micro-seconds |
TrueStory |
Feb-23-06 05:04 PM |
#293 |
| -
Your THEORY is FULL OF HOLES! |
dchill |
Feb-23-06 05:14 PM |
#295 |
| -
Energy is neither created nor destroyed in a mechanical interaction. |
benburch |
Feb-24-06 09:35 PM |
#340 |
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Your potential is dissipating. |
dchill |
Feb-24-06 10:19 PM |
#341 |
| -
"Two half-kiloton atom bombs went off in Manhattan on 9/11!" |
dailykoff |
Feb-25-06 02:34 PM |
#345 |
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