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184. Here's an old DU link that dovetails with this current thread
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Nothing Without Hope
Yglesias: WHO FORGED THE NIGER DOCUMENTS? At the heart of the WMD lies
that led to the Iraq invasion, this question has been strangely overlooked by even the Dems. Identifying the forgers and exposing how such transparently fraudulent documents were officially accepted by the Bush Administration despite warnings is potentially far more important than Rovegate/Plamegate. This Matthew Yglesias article should be a must-read for all of us - and then we need to find ways to find the truth about this vital, central question. Surely it's worth as much attention as the Plame leak.



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  -PLAME= IRAN/CONTRA REDUX - Planted WMD from Ghorbanifar & Ledeen. robertpaulsen  Jan-11-06 01:41 PM   #0 
  - k & r  ewagner   Jan-11-06 01:44 PM   #1 
  - ABSOLUTELY. Hard to believe that some people think IranContra and BCCI  blm   Jan-11-06 01:45 PM   #2 
  - BCCI! Still a big story!  Joanne98   Jan-11-06 07:08 PM   #58 
  - Don't forget Iraqgate  Mme. Defarge   Jan-12-06 09:42 AM   #91 
  - Lone wolf bank manager, my ass.  blm   Jan-12-06 11:55 AM   #99 
  - delete  happydreams   Jan-13-06 03:07 PM   #152 
  - Few people know that articles of impeachment were filed against  happydreams   Jan-13-06 02:45 PM   #150 
  - wonders what % of Americans have a clue about BCCI - is the Corp Media  Supersedeas   Jan-12-06 04:45 PM   #124 
     - What I wrote about BCCI on American Judas  robertpaulsen   Jan-12-06 05:14 PM   #125 
     - I went and read your paper  stop the bleeding   Jan-12-06 09:08 PM   #131 
        - Thanks! If you like that, you'll love the Waterman Paper.  robertpaulsen   Jan-13-06 05:41 PM   #156 
     - Just Before Congressional Hearings On BCCI, OJ Simpson Hit The Tv  Christophera   Jan-16-06 10:59 PM   #186 
  - this is huge!  leftchick   Jan-11-06 01:45 PM   #3 
  - wow, good stuff!  sabra   Jan-11-06 01:46 PM   #4 
  - Who is Michael Ledeen?  robertpaulsen   Jan-11-06 01:58 PM   #5 
  - Machiavellian Ledeen is the author of Universal Fascist  robertpaulsen   Jan-11-06 02:13 PM   #6 
  - We need to start asking some hard questions about this treasonous bastard.  robertpaulsen   Jan-11-06 02:42 PM   #9 
  - answer to questions 1 and 2 is:  stop the bleeding   Jan-11-06 03:08 PM   #16 
  - Just to note, my article does not say  lala_rawraw   Jan-11-06 03:17 PM   #20 
  - Good note. Newsweek doesn't say what dailykos does either.  robertpaulsen   Jan-11-06 04:36 PM   #37 
     - Here's an article that notes who was at the meeting  Emit   Jan-16-06 01:39 AM   #177 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-11-06 03:57 PM   #29 
  - Enemies of Israel and anti-Zionists  AntiFascist   Jan-11-06 04:28 PM   #35 
  - Sadly, That Very Tactic Has Clearly Been Put To Use  Me.   Jan-11-06 05:47 PM   #45 
  - Second link shows neo-con relationship to the military-industrial complex  robertpaulsen   Jan-11-06 06:06 PM   #48 
     - We Shouldn't Forget That The Worm's Wife Meyrav  Me.   Jan-11-06 07:35 PM   #64 
  - This doesn't answer your questions, but it's interesting nonetheless  Emit   Jan-15-06 02:40 AM   #172 
     - Emit I have been doing a lot of research on Gladio / P2 and their  stop the bleeding   Jan-15-06 09:21 PM   #175 
        - Actually  Emit   Jan-16-06 12:27 AM   #176 
  - Will be interesting to see how Peres and Netanyahu handle the  phoebe   Jan-12-06 03:53 PM   #119 
  - I Know, I know!!  leftchick   Jan-11-06 03:04 PM   #13 
  - Don't forget his "universal fascism"....  AntiFascist   Jan-11-06 03:29 PM   #24 
  - I don't doubt * latched onto his ideas. Guess what Ledeen does for Rove?  robertpaulsen   Jan-11-06 05:12 PM   #42 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-11-06 05:57 PM   #47 
     - Very important! AntiFascist, you just answered the question of motive!  robertpaulsen   Jan-11-06 06:40 PM   #51 
        - More from Me's second link on post 29.  robertpaulsen   Jan-11-06 06:51 PM   #54 
           - Can You Say Iraq  Me.   Jan-11-06 07:46 PM   #66 
           - I ran across this discussion on FrontPageMag.com....  AntiFascist   Jan-12-06 02:59 AM   #79 
              - Heard An Interesting Theory On Hardball Tonight  Me.   Jan-12-06 09:25 PM   #132 
                 - Wow, Tweety and I must be on the same wavelength....  AntiFascist   Jan-13-06 01:35 AM   #140 
                 - Oh The Leaders Of Iran Don't Want Democratic Reform  Me.   Jan-13-06 10:57 AM   #147 
                    - I understand...  AntiFascist   Jan-13-06 04:07 PM   #154 
                 - Ledeen has talked and written about 'liberating' Iran  Emit   Jan-15-06 01:09 AM   #171 
           - P2 is pure fascism, as befits someone like Ledeen  RazzleDazzle   Jan-11-06 09:47 PM   #76 
           - I googled Operation Gladio, Antonio Martino  robertpaulsen   Jan-12-06 06:56 PM   #128 
              - Yep. That's an amazing cast of characters, isn't it?  RazzleDazzle   Jan-12-06 08:10 PM   #130 
           - Yup  Emit   Jan-15-06 12:50 AM   #170 
     - From what I've read, Ledeen is Rove's ONLY foreign policy advisor.  Wordie   Jan-11-06 07:09 PM   #59 
  - Here are some great articles to shed even more light on these cockroaches!  TheGunslinger   Jan-11-06 05:49 PM   #46 
  - Thanks for spotlighting Karen Kwiatkowski, an important whistleblower.  robertpaulsen   Jan-11-06 07:34 PM   #63 
     - Wish that liberal media wouldn't show her on TV so much though  TheGunslinger   Jan-12-06 12:09 AM   #78 
  - Great article the last paragraph kind of sums it all up..  stop the bleeding   Jan-11-06 07:29 PM   #61 
  - Thought I'd add this  Emit   Jan-15-06 12:42 AM   #169 
  - You're Right, This Is Very Important  Me.   Jan-11-06 02:27 PM   #7 
  - Michael Ledeen arranged it. Read post 9 for details.  robertpaulsen   Jan-11-06 03:08 PM   #15 
  - Perhaps Ledeen and this guy. Naor Gilon. See post #14  leveymg   Jan-11-06 03:17 PM   #19 
  - lol! - we have to communicate a little better, I guess more is better  stop the bleeding   Jan-11-06 02:33 PM   #8 
  - I'll be sure to respond to your thread.  robertpaulsen   Jan-11-06 02:49 PM   #11 
  - Nominated !!!  H2O Man   Jan-11-06 03:35 PM   #26 
     - here is a big piece from Peace Patriot from the LBN thread  stop the bleeding   Jan-11-06 03:40 PM   #27 
  - That's why we need more posters to be aware of the larger picture  blm   Jan-11-06 08:47 PM   #69 
  - Khashoggi, another Iran-Contra go between and Florida 2004  happydreams   Jan-11-06 02:46 PM   #10 
  - Is Hassan Ali Ibrahim Ali the "Ali" in LaLa's story? n/t  leveymg   Jan-11-06 03:09 PM   #18 
  - The Butterfly Queen - Teresa LaPore  DoYouEverWonder   Jan-11-06 03:17 PM   #21 
  - Yea, that's her. Thanks!  happydreams   Jan-11-06 03:22 PM   #22 
  - If LaPone was part of Khashoggi's aircrew, this is a major find  leveymg   Jan-11-06 03:30 PM   #25 
     - GOT IT!!  happydreams   Jan-11-06 04:06 PM   #30 
     - Here's a Newsday article on the Saudis at Election.com  leveymg   Jan-11-06 04:27 PM   #34 
     - I just want to give you a big thumbs up, happydreams.  robertpaulsen   Jan-11-06 05:32 PM   #43 
     - Thank You very much. Same to you friend.  happydreams   Jan-13-06 02:11 PM   #148 
     - Holy christ!!!!  lala_rawraw   Jan-11-06 06:08 PM   #50 
     - Sign me up. Will work for by-lines.  leveymg   Jan-12-06 04:40 AM   #82 
        - Not for research:(  lala_rawraw   Jan-12-06 01:06 PM   #108 
     - Be careful with "Triad"....  AntiFascist   Jan-11-06 06:49 PM   #53 
     - Notice how these topics keep coming back up  happydreams   Jan-13-06 02:14 PM   #149 
     - Holy WOW - didn't Madsen publish an article last year after the election  stop the bleeding   Jan-11-06 07:07 PM   #57 
        - Here's the thread from my post a year ago...  AntiFascist   Jan-11-06 07:24 PM   #60 
           - My post 51 on that thread is a little embarassing...  AntiFascist   Jan-11-06 07:43 PM   #65 
           - Yes - Check aside here is the interesting part  stop the bleeding   Jan-11-06 08:03 PM   #67 
           - I'd sure like to see California recover the $9 billion that Enron stole...  Peace Patriot   Jan-12-06 12:19 PM   #102 
           - I've always felt that Madsen was onto Plan C for the 2004 election theft,  Peace Patriot   Jan-12-06 01:43 PM   #111 
              - The other problem is that....  AntiFascist   Jan-12-06 03:19 PM   #116 
                 - So then our fate rests in McNulty and Fitz working together  stop the bleeding   Jan-12-06 03:32 PM   #117 
     - Found this at several sites from 2004 - WSJ reported LaPore-Adnan  leveymg   Jan-11-06 05:44 PM   #44 
  - Don't overlook Sheldon Lady  Jose Diablo   Jan-11-06 02:53 PM   #12 
  - Here's another side of the story. The Mossad-OSP pipeline.  leveymg   Jan-11-06 03:04 PM   #14 
  - WOW - Great find  stop the bleeding   Jan-11-06 03:49 PM   #28 
  - For those who are really interested, here's the Rozen-Marshall-Cole  leveymg   Jan-11-06 04:13 PM   #31 
  - Kos link doesn't work I get a permission denied. k&r  JohnyCanuck   Jan-11-06 04:18 PM   #32 
  - Try This One  leveymg   Jan-11-06 04:29 PM   #36 
     - Sorry I still get the same permission denied message  JohnyCanuck   Jan-11-06 04:49 PM   #39 
        - Thanks for letting me know that. Article below.  leveymg   Jan-11-06 05:06 PM   #41 
           - Why does Israel have so much influence over America? Is it  stop the bleeding   Jan-11-06 09:32 PM   #71 
              - IMO part of reason for Israel support is guilt that US govt and churches  bobbieinok   Jan-12-06 02:37 PM   #115 
              - I read your question earlier  Emit   Jan-15-06 02:56 AM   #173 
                 - This seems like an incredible find to me....  AntiFascist   Jan-16-06 02:03 AM   #178 
  - Great find, leveymg!  robertpaulsen   Jan-11-06 06:45 PM   #52 
     - Notice how the MSM has virually ignored this.  leveymg   Jan-12-06 04:33 AM   #81 
        - Could McNulty and Fitz be working together to squeeze people over this?  stop the bleeding   Jan-12-06 06:21 AM   #83 
        - Yes, they no doubt talk to each other.  leveymg   Jan-12-06 09:42 AM   #92 
        - New development this morning here on DU see here:  stop the bleeding   Jan-12-06 09:45 AM   #93 
        - Collaboration? You bet! That's why I call it PLAME/AIPACGATE.  robertpaulsen   Jan-12-06 02:16 PM   #113 
        - Do I notice how the MSM has ignored this?  JohnyCanuck   Jan-12-06 07:51 AM   #87 
        - Yes, except I'm not sure about Mossad being cut out on this.  leveymg   Jan-12-06 09:26 AM   #88 
        - Good point, I agree. n/t  JohnyCanuck   Jan-12-06 11:58 AM   #100 
        - "...for Israel to be truly safe." Perle's idea of "safety" being...  Peace Patriot   Jan-12-06 12:44 PM   #106 
        - notice how they also play down the connections to Cheney who was  phoebe   Jan-12-06 04:21 PM   #123 
  - Kick  chelaque liberal   Jan-11-06 03:09 PM   #17 
  - Kick and recommended. Wow!  oblivious   Jan-11-06 03:23 PM   #23 
  - Read Gary Leupp weighing in on the future of Iran.  robertpaulsen   Jan-11-06 04:22 PM   #33 
  - "The point is . . .to stage a show for the American public" Yes.  leveymg   Jan-11-06 04:41 PM   #38 
     - I hope you are right n/t  JohnyCanuck   Jan-11-06 04:50 PM   #40 
     - I hope you're right, Leveymg! That's the first hopeful post I've seen on  Peace Patriot   Jan-11-06 09:29 PM   #70 
     - this part is a great question in your post  stop the bleeding   Jan-11-06 09:43 PM   #73 
     - I've recently been wondering if....  AntiFascist   Jan-12-06 02:14 PM   #112 
     - I hope he's right also, and I too feel relieved that there might be some  Catrina   Jan-14-06 02:21 AM   #165 
     - I have been thinking about this part all day and one question.  stop the bleeding   Jan-12-06 09:39 PM   #134 
  - Are they the same people who planted the radio device inside Libya  cantstandbush   Jan-11-06 06:08 PM   #49 
  - Ledeen-Ledeen-Ledeen  Clara T   Jan-11-06 06:59 PM   #55 
  - LOL  upi402   Jan-11-06 09:46 PM   #75 
  - did Ledeen forge the Niger documents???  welshTerrier2   Jan-11-06 06:59 PM   #56 
  - He was my first guess as soon as I heard the words forged and Italy.  blm   Jan-11-06 07:33 PM   #62 
  - important development indeed. n/t  samhsarah   Jan-11-06 08:19 PM   #68 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-11-06 09:38 PM   #72 
  - It is funny how Able Danger pops up here in your post with google  stop the bleeding   Jan-12-06 09:50 PM   #135 
  - k/r  upi402   Jan-11-06 09:46 PM   #74 
  - Know your BFEE: John Hull  Octafish   Jan-11-06 09:54 PM   #77 
  - Hey, Octafish ! A question:  H2O Man   Jan-12-06 06:53 AM   #84 
  - Some light reading...  Octafish   Jan-12-06 12:22 PM   #103 
  - Thanks for the recommendations & links!  robertpaulsen   Jan-12-06 02:36 PM   #114 
     - Here's what Iran-Contra was all about...  Octafish   Jan-12-06 09:29 PM   #133 
  - Sounds like a great book!  robertpaulsen   Jan-12-06 01:19 PM   #109 
  - Why does media not notice any of this?  blm   Jan-12-06 11:53 AM   #98 
     - DEA Agents Agree: CIA Means 'Cocaine Importation Agency'  Octafish   Jan-12-06 12:27 PM   #104 
  - Excellent article...  ngGale   Jan-12-06 03:53 AM   #80 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-12-06 07:15 AM   #85 
  - SLaD, your research is topnotch. Now see what dots Minstrel Boy connects!  robertpaulsen   Jan-12-06 03:56 PM   #120 
  - Oh no! Now don't you tell MB that I forgot to post his link!  seemslikeadream   Jan-12-06 06:09 PM   #127 
  - SeemsLikeADream, wow! What a trove!  Peace Patriot   Jan-12-06 03:59 PM   #121 
  - Exactly So!  Me.   Jan-12-06 11:08 PM   #137 
     - but once we woke up on 11/03/04  stop the bleeding   Jan-13-06 07:48 AM   #142 
  - How could I have missed this???!?!? hitting self in the head right now  stop the bleeding   Jan-12-06 04:02 PM   #122 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-12-06 06:59 PM   #129 
     - BreathTaking SLaD!  Me.   Jan-12-06 10:58 PM   #136 
  - Kick & Recommend......... n/t  converted_democrat   Jan-12-06 07:42 AM   #86 
  - SOS/HELP! - thread located in another part of GD ties into this - HELP!!  stop the bleeding   Jan-12-06 09:36 AM   #89 
  - This was my response to that post.  leveymg   Jan-12-06 10:01 AM   #94 
     - I agree I am just a little alarmed by what Biden said - how much control  stop the bleeding   Jan-12-06 10:15 AM   #95 
        - I'd say our arms are long enough to reach the head of state  leveymg   Jan-12-06 10:25 AM   #96 
  - Kick for this important story and for Lara at Raw Story! n/t  Nothing Without Hope   Jan-12-06 09:39 AM   #90 
  - kick n/t  Nothing Without Hope   Jan-12-06 10:58 AM   #97 
  - See my comment/question #2 at See my comment/question #2 at  Peace Patriot   Jan-12-06 12:03 PM   #101 
  - This also makes sense from David Kelley's point of view also I am  stop the bleeding   Jan-12-06 12:30 PM   #105 
  - Adnan Khashoggi and Manucher Ghorbanifar  seemslikeadream   Jan-12-06 01:01 PM   #107 
  - Great question, Peace Patriot!  robertpaulsen   Jan-12-06 05:31 PM   #126 
  - kick for the truth  Clara T   Jan-12-06 01:20 PM   #110 
  - Dave Lindorff is in Rome and reports on impeachment investigation...  AntiFascist   Jan-12-06 03:35 PM   #118 
  - KIck!  happydreams   Jan-14-06 02:19 PM   #166 
  - Yeah no Doubt kick this part, I have been over this thread a 100 times  stop the bleeding   Jan-14-06 10:47 PM   #168 
  - kick n/t  bud E. holly   Jan-12-06 11:20 PM   #138 
  - ***Related thread: Ledeen & Gorby doing the same thing 25 years ago:  Nothing Without Hope   Jan-13-06 01:14 AM   #139 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-13-06 07:01 AM   #141 
  - Great find on the words coming right of Ledeen's mouth..  stop the bleeding   Jan-13-06 08:29 AM   #143 
  - This is all in my Film "Rove's War"  symbolman   Jan-13-06 08:54 AM   #144 
  - Done - just ordered it - not for me even though there is always more to  stop the bleeding   Jan-13-06 09:47 AM   #145 
     - Dots, Dots, Dots  lala_rawraw   Jan-13-06 10:22 AM   #146 
     - I've been getting a lot of good reviews on it  symbolman   Jan-13-06 05:58 PM   #157 
  - Holy jumpin! I'm getting e-mails from "Dr. Michael Leyden"!!  happydreams   Jan-13-06 03:04 PM   #151 
  - Who is this joker and why is he contacting you out of the blue with  stop the bleeding   Jan-13-06 03:35 PM   #153 
  - Beyond bizarre.  robertpaulsen   Jan-13-06 06:21 PM   #159 
     - I've gotten two more replies from him and one from BOC  happydreams   Jan-13-06 06:28 PM   #161 
        - happydreams - this smells like a scam, I work in the background industry  stop the bleeding   Jan-13-06 07:56 PM   #163 
           - Thanks for the effort. I don't know what to make of it.  happydreams   Jan-14-06 06:30 PM   #167 
  - Damn this is confusing  Ksec   Jan-13-06 04:12 PM   #155 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-13-06 06:06 PM   #158 
  - Here are some of my bookmarks courtesy of several people/authors  stop the bleeding   Jan-13-06 06:38 PM   #162 
  - Tweety actually just mentioned Ledeen et al, and their press for Iraq war!  Wordie   Jan-13-06 06:22 PM   #160 
  - Didn't see this in the NY Times or on CNN  Clara T   Jan-14-06 12:15 AM   #164 
  - kick n/t  Emit   Jan-15-06 03:42 PM   #174 
  - Holy crap! Kick! n/t  Poll_Blind   Jan-16-06 02:40 AM   #179 
  - Kick...  ngGale   Jan-16-06 03:32 AM   #180 
  - Why was this thread relocated to the 911 forum? n/t  Emit   Jan-16-06 12:06 PM   #181 
  - Because it points to the awful truth.  pauldp   Jan-16-06 02:17 PM   #182 
  - Good question - this is a disgrace.  Tim Howells   Jan-19-06 03:40 AM   #189 
  - Has anyone read this? Ledeen himself - Iran-Contra Revisited  Emit   Jan-16-06 02:30 PM   #183 
  - What a tidy bit of twistocracy this Ledeen piece is!  Peace Patriot   Jan-18-06 04:24 PM   #187 
  - Here's an old DU link that dovetails with this current thread  Emit   Jan-16-06 03:56 PM   #184 
  - There is an interesting link to Madsen articles about P2 related stuff...  AntiFascist   Jan-16-06 04:50 PM   #185 
  - Ledeen travels to Indiana fairly often -ostensibly to be on AM radio.  Ouabache   Jan-19-06 12:30 AM   #188 
  - How did this stuff get to Turkey?  sattahipdeep   Jan-23-06 12:59 PM   #190 
  - So this is where this thread ended up  bud E. holly   Jan-30-06 07:30 PM   #191 
 

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