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Strange Death of Father Judge
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Can anyone please help identify the implements that were videotaped being wielded by alleged FDNY men near the place and time of their "finding" Mychal Judge dead?

http://911foreknowledge.com/judge.htm

Syringe? Cattleprod?
They don't look like any firefighter tools I've ever seen. Was Mr. Backofhead thrusting one of them into Father Judge?

Is that Father Judge's left hand sliding down Chief Pfeifer's back, during Mr. Backofhead's arm-thrust?

Note there are TWO arm-thrust video clips, when we are told there was only ONE camera there. That means either there were TWO cameras OR else the arm-thrusting was a REPETETIVE motion.

The excerpts are from Naudet 911, the first snuff film to ever win an Emmy.


Ray Ubinger
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  Strange Death of Father Judge RayUbinger  Nov-07-05 08:04 PM   #0 
   i cannot tell  sabbat hunter   Nov-07-05 08:32 PM   #1 
   Not completely dark and grainy  RayUbinger   Nov-09-05 07:37 PM   #4 
   What motive?  smirkymonkey   Nov-08-05 08:22 PM   #2 
   Perhaps he knew too much  RayUbinger   Nov-09-05 07:43 PM   #5 
      One possibility-- Father Judge was "onto" the Naudet brothers  spooked911   Nov-22-05 01:56 PM   #53 
         IMO he's oblivious to Jules openly filming him  RayUbinger   Nov-23-05 02:22 AM   #57 
            But what about the possibility that he was killed because he knew  spooked911   Nov-23-05 10:22 AM   #60 
               I think he'd have been looking suspiciously at the camera in that case  RayUbinger   Nov-28-05 08:17 PM   #65 
   what possible significance does this have to 9/11?  spooked911   Nov-09-05 11:41 AM   #3 
   You mean other than the fact that it happened inside WTC-1 on 9/11?  RayUbinger   Nov-09-05 07:44 PM   #6 
   Is there an official explanation for his cause of death?  philb   Nov-09-05 08:25 PM   #7 
   I don't know, please help me research it  RayUbinger   Nov-09-05 08:46 PM   #8 
      revive him?  northzax   Nov-15-05 12:57 PM   #44 
         Try again  RayUbinger   Nov-15-05 06:02 PM   #47 
   Death of Father Judge  piobair   Nov-10-05 05:31 PM   #9 
   Magazine article doesn't make footage go away  RayUbinger   Nov-10-05 07:47 PM   #10 
      That contradicts the many firemen statements who were there  philb   Nov-11-05 12:27 AM   #11 
         Statement transcripts also don't make the footage go away  RayUbinger   Nov-11-05 08:48 AM   #12 
            objects  piobair   Nov-11-05 09:34 AM   #13 
            Footage taken by EARLY responders shot in first-hit Tower ONE  RayUbinger   Nov-11-05 11:27 AM   #14 
               Many firefighter statements put Father Judge in WTC1  philb   Nov-11-05 11:34 AM   #15 
                  As does the footage  RayUbinger   Nov-11-05 12:42 PM   #18 
            I searched for explosion, not father judge, but I saw father judge  philb   Nov-11-05 11:43 AM   #16 
               Then start a thread about explosions  RayUbinger   Nov-11-05 12:36 PM   #17 
                  I did; see link  philb   Nov-11-05 05:06 PM   #19 
                     Confused you with piobair, sorry  RayUbinger   Nov-12-05 12:57 PM   #20 
                        www.saintmychal.com  piobair   Nov-12-05 06:56 PM   #22 
                           Oh, I'm SURE that story is accurate. nt  mirandapriestly   Nov-12-05 11:16 PM   #23 
                           Scrutinizing the saintmychal page  RayUbinger   Nov-13-05 04:18 PM   #25 
                           The messenger is not the message  RayUbinger   Nov-13-05 04:40 PM   #27 
   Photo of Father Judge being carried by firefighters  mirandapriestly   Nov-12-05 01:56 PM   #21 
   how about this one then  piobair   Nov-13-05 12:02 PM   #24 
   How about quoting anyone as seeing Judge's alleged head wound?  RayUbinger   Nov-13-05 04:38 PM   #26 
   Or how about quoting anyone who saw Judge giving last rites?  RayUbinger   Nov-14-05 09:30 AM   #28 
   What does that have to do with this thread?  mirandapriestly   Nov-14-05 06:23 PM   #34 
      Piobair just thought any witness who mentioned Judge would be valid  RayUbinger   Nov-15-05 12:32 PM   #43 
   He was carried to a Church near the Towers; so was this taking him to WTC1  philb   Nov-14-05 09:11 PM   #36 
      I assumed this was after what had been filmed  mirandapriestly   Nov-15-05 03:25 AM   #38 
      No it was taking him from WTC1 to the church  RayUbinger   Nov-15-05 12:21 PM   #41 
   I kinda like....  Sweet Pea   Nov-14-05 11:31 AM   #29 
   You kinda like ducking the questions as much as piobair does  RayUbinger   Nov-14-05 12:37 PM   #30 
      hand slide  piobair   Nov-14-05 12:59 PM   #31 
         Keep it in context  RayUbinger   Nov-14-05 02:49 PM   #32 
            helmet  piobair   Nov-14-05 05:35 PM   #33 
               You are full of changing the subject  RayUbinger   Nov-14-05 08:48 PM   #35 
                  Actually, piobair didn't change the subject, he replied to part of your  MercutioATC   Nov-14-05 11:22 PM   #37 
                  Helmet opinion difference already respectfully acknowledged  RayUbinger   Nov-15-05 12:15 PM   #40 
                  nits  piobair   Nov-15-05 09:07 AM   #39 
                     Still no answer  RayUbinger   Nov-15-05 12:26 PM   #42 
                        no answer  piobair   Nov-15-05 03:32 PM   #45 
                           Revival-attempt explanation of arm thrust doesn't hold water  RayUbinger   Nov-15-05 05:54 PM   #46 
                              autopsy  piobair   Nov-16-05 10:44 AM   #48 
                                 Quit spreading hearsay  RayUbinger   Nov-16-05 11:10 AM   #49 
                                 autopsy  piobair   Nov-16-05 11:29 AM   #50 
                                    Delay and distraction  RayUbinger   Nov-16-05 01:27 PM   #51 
                                    piobair-- did you come to DU just to rebut this story?  spooked911   Nov-22-05 01:53 PM   #52 
                                       rebut  piobair   Nov-22-05 06:50 PM   #54 
                                       You mean YOU can't tell a flashlight from a walkie talkie?  RayUbinger   Nov-22-05 07:32 PM   #55 
                                       Succinct  piobair   Nov-23-05 09:09 AM   #58 
                                          You're too good to answer questions  RayUbinger   Nov-28-05 12:34 AM   #61 
                                       Re: Rebut  RayUbinger   Dec-09-05 07:08 AM   #67 
                                          Theories  piobair   Dec-09-05 06:57 PM   #69 
                                             You became a member right AFTER my first post  RayUbinger   Dec-13-05 06:53 PM   #73 
                                                member  piobair   Dec-13-05 09:58 PM   #76 
                                                Fair enough on membership date  RayUbinger   Dec-14-05 12:17 AM   #78 
                                                truck  piobair   Dec-14-05 09:25 AM   #79 
                                                Pavel Hlava's firetruck  RayUbinger   Dec-15-05 11:59 PM   #81 
                                                authenticity  piobair   Dec-16-05 12:50 PM   #83 
                                                It's not my fault you're unaware of the Pavel Hlava story  RayUbinger   Dec-17-05 07:53 PM   #90 
                                                Walkie talkie antenna claimed by Piobair  RayUbinger   Dec-16-05 01:42 AM   #82 
                                                not what you claim  piobair   Dec-16-05 12:57 PM   #84 
                                                Snapshot of object in question  RayUbinger   Jan-06-06 06:03 PM   #98 
                                                piobair's Brothers  RayUbinger   Dec-16-05 08:05 PM   #85 
                                                "interesting information"  piobair   Dec-17-05 07:06 PM   #87 
                                                Naudets lie; piobair yawns  RayUbinger   Jan-06-06 06:18 PM   #99 
                                                Funerals are one-way processions  RayUbinger   Dec-16-05 10:14 PM   #86 
                                                as I said  piobair   Dec-17-05 07:14 PM   #88 
                                                "Filler," in a DOCUMENTARY?  RayUbinger   Jan-06-06 06:26 PM   #100 
                                                Tony and the Gloveless Exit  RayUbinger   Dec-17-05 07:44 PM   #89 
                                                plain clothes cop  piobair   Dec-14-05 09:30 AM   #80 
                                       Good for you Spooked!  MrSammo1   Nov-28-05 03:11 AM   #63 
                                          cia shill  piobair   Dec-09-05 08:37 PM   #70 
                                             A second camera inside the WTC-1 lobby  RayUbinger   Dec-13-05 06:39 PM   #72 
                                                You've demonstrated nothing  piobair   Dec-13-05 10:03 PM   #77 
                                                   Two vids of same action implies two cameras, implies LYING NAUDETS  RayUbinger   Dec-18-05 08:56 PM   #91 
                                                   no evidence  piobair   Dec-19-05 09:21 AM   #92 
                                                   Ignored evidence  RayUbinger   Dec-19-05 05:55 PM   #95 
                                 was there a suggestion as to what hit him?  philb   Dec-10-05 10:16 AM   #71 
                                    Nope, no such suggestion by any quoted witness yet  RayUbinger   Dec-13-05 07:43 PM   #74 
   New video excerpt published  RayUbinger   Nov-22-05 08:59 PM   #56 
   gun  piobair   Nov-23-05 09:18 AM   #59 
      Yeah everyone knows what the strap of an SCBA for Christ sake is  RayUbinger   Nov-28-05 12:38 AM   #62 
         scba  piobair   Nov-28-05 09:21 AM   #64 
            Fair enough on SCBA, now what's so trivial about a SECOND camera  RayUbinger   Nov-28-05 08:25 PM   #66 
   Horrifying to think, but I believe Father Judge was TRAMPLED  spooked   Dec-09-05 06:36 PM   #68 
   That would leave a number of things unexplained  RayUbinger   Dec-13-05 07:51 PM   #75 
      second-hand story  MakeItSo   Dec-19-05 02:08 PM   #93 
         Ray, when did you learn about holograms?  MakeItSo   Dec-19-05 05:16 PM   #94 
         Not until I noticed the exotic optical effects in some S11 videos  RayUbinger   Dec-19-05 06:01 PM   #96 
         Yep that's second hand all right  RayUbinger   Dec-19-05 06:12 PM   #97 
   Too fuzzy  adolfo   Jan-07-06 10:13 PM   #101 
      Rub the fuzz out of your eyes and look again  RayUbinger   Jan-08-06 09:36 AM   #102 
 

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