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Sat Aug-13-05 08:39 AM
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| 1. Does anyone plan to go through and compile the info from the tapes? |
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Edited on Sat Aug-13-05 08:48 AM by philb
We already know there were a lot of statements about how the fires weren't very hot and regarding witnessing explosions in the towers.
most appear to be audio tapes; and my computer has problems loading them.
would it be because of a slow modum?
or RAM space?
my computer continually has to reload so I can't here any continuous message.
Anyone know how to get around this problem?
Would it be possible to download the full tape to my computer and then play? How to do it and would it make a difference?
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| -City to Release Thousands of Firefighter Oral Histories of 9/11 Today |
philb |
Aug-12-05 11:04 PM |
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Does anyone plan to go through and compile the info from the tapes? |
philb |
Aug-13-05 08:39 AM |
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More of the documentation |
philb |
Aug-13-05 07:01 PM |
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Some of the information is blacked out. What was blacked out and |
philb |
Aug-13-05 09:43 PM |
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Most of statements I've seen were taken by FDNY "commanders' who seem to |
philb |
Aug-14-05 09:01 AM |
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Dr. G. Asaeda, lots of info blacked out, why would that be? |
philb |
Aug-14-05 09:36 AM |
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No debris from first plane; and some firefighters survived WTC1 collapse |
philb |
Aug-19-05 07:49 PM |
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How could people in the tower survive in a pancake collapse? (n/t) |
philb |
Aug-19-05 07:55 PM |
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Were they in the stairwell in the core w/ massive columns around? n/t |
petgoat |
Aug-19-05 08:01 PM |
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It appears that was where they were (n/t) |
philb |
Aug-21-05 11:20 PM |
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Impossible. It would be like surviving in the cockpit |
pox americana |
Aug-19-05 08:14 PM |
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Not True |
vincent_vega_lives |
Aug-21-05 08:38 AM |
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Ahem, you're arguing against yourself. |
pox americana |
Aug-21-05 04:07 PM |
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This might be their story, per Stone Phillips interview; sounds similar |
philb |
Aug-21-05 03:32 PM |
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WTC2 wasn't total collapse; some in lobby survived; and not in core |
philb |
Aug-26-05 07:05 AM |
#119 |
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What does parts of lobby of WTC2 surviving imply? Why did it not get |
philb |
Aug-26-05 07:06 AM |
#120 |
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Several more survivors of WTC2 collapse - in the lobby |
philb |
Aug-29-05 10:39 PM |
#139 |
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Another report of the survivors of WTC1 collapse by firefighter |
philb |
Aug-27-05 11:33 AM |
#131 |
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Firefighter reports civilian on 7th floor of WTC1 survived the collapse |
philb |
Aug-28-05 05:03 PM |
#133 |
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Fireman Sean Brown- appearance of explosion in lobby/basement area |
philb |
Aug-13-05 07:41 PM |
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Yes, I have seen several references to that |
mirandapriestly |
Aug-14-05 02:57 AM |
#11 |
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NY Policemen reported explosions at ground level |
philb |
Aug-27-05 09:09 AM |
#123 |
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Fireman Tim Brown- WTC2- generated wind about 75 mph when collapsed |
philb |
Aug-13-05 08:11 PM |
#4 |
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Heavy debris from towers was hurled over 2 blocks in some cases; how? |
philb |
Aug-24-05 10:27 PM |
#116 |
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James Drury FDNY - sounded like bombs going off in WTC1 |
philb |
Aug-13-05 09:57 PM |
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What caused the boom,boom,boom,boom at WTC1? |
philb |
Aug-18-05 09:32 PM |
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boom boom boom boom |
petgoat |
Aug-19-05 07:58 PM |
#64 |
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boom boom boom |
petgoat |
Aug-21-05 03:25 AM |
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The cutter charges shown in videos were about every 4 floors (n/t) |
philb |
Aug-21-05 03:41 PM |
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I heard the explosion, looked up, and saw 3 floors explode |
philb |
Aug-22-05 11:35 PM |
#109 |
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NY Police & another Fireman- WTC2 exploded at the top |
philb |
Aug-27-05 09:20 AM |
#124 |
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There isn't a statement there by Lou Cacchioli or Tommy Hedsal. |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Aug-13-05 10:55 PM |
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I've only had time to read 4 or 5 statements so far |
philb |
Aug-13-05 11:06 PM |
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Lt. Neil Brosan, FDNY - his company hit by explosion in WTC1 |
philb |
Aug-13-05 11:08 PM |
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WHOA! you're finding all the good ones. NT |
mirandapriestly |
Aug-14-05 03:07 AM |
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WTC1 Ground level explosion before it fell |
philb |
Aug-19-05 09:50 PM |
#67 |
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More reports of ground level explosions |
philb |
Aug-27-05 07:15 AM |
#122 |
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A whole bank of elevators was working in WTC1- transporting firemen |
philb |
Aug-28-05 05:10 PM |
#134 |
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Brosnan event in WTC1 lobby was likely due to WTC2 "collapse" |
philb |
Sep-05-05 02:38 PM |
#147 |
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John O'Neill checking out the FBI Offices before he was killed? |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Aug-15-05 08:54 AM |
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I've seen several of the fireman statements talking about this damage |
philb |
Aug-28-05 05:22 PM |
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I believe this is one of the ones about devastation on that floor |
philb |
Aug-28-05 11:17 PM |
#138 |
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Here is another; |
philb |
Sep-04-05 10:48 PM |
#146 |
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The elevators in WTC1 that were blasted were lower level elevators |
philb |
Sep-05-05 05:46 PM |
#148 |
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Were both Port Authority and FBI on this floor? |
philb |
Sep-08-05 09:24 PM |
#150 |
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another report of wind blast & rubble on 4th floor of WTC1 |
philb |
Aug-14-05 12:19 AM |
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Great work Philb! n/t |
seatnineb |
Aug-14-05 07:57 AM |
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What caused the damage on 5th and 6th floor of WTC1? |
philb |
Aug-28-05 05:19 PM |
#135 |
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Seems like at WTC, a lot of the plane debris was outside the building |
philb |
Aug-14-05 08:45 AM |
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P. Ashby -EMT thought he saw something like a missile shot at WTC |
philb |
Aug-14-05 10:49 AM |
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articles, pictures, videos of the Woolworth Building missiles; and backgro |
philb |
Aug-14-05 12:02 PM |
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This is a copy of one of the sites above that is hard to read at URL |
philb |
Aug-16-05 10:53 PM |
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also one of the police reports |
mirandapriestly |
Aug-14-05 02:58 PM |
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P. Falluca, firefighter.... talks about rockets from the Woolworth Bldg. |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Aug-15-05 12:55 PM |
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Has anyone looked at the Danish Video? See my post re: Woolworth |
philb |
Aug-20-05 08:06 PM |
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What does a missile or rocket sound like?? Similar to a jet engine? |
philb |
Aug-27-05 09:52 AM |
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sounded like incoming missile before collapse- WTC2 firefighter |
philb |
Aug-22-05 11:00 PM |
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Frank Campagna, FDNY experienced explosions in WTC1 |
philb |
Aug-14-05 12:22 PM |
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LIEUTENANT JOHN CITARELLA FDNY WTC1 explosion before collapse |
philb |
Aug-19-05 11:19 PM |
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When firemen first arrived, some elevators worked, little damage, what ha |
philb |
Aug-23-05 12:03 AM |
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More reports: WTC1 lobby ok when FD arrived; devastated later |
philb |
Aug-24-05 10:56 PM |
#118 |
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What would have caused the WTC1 tower to shoot up, then down? |
philb |
Aug-24-05 10:44 PM |
#117 |
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NY Police reported explosions in upper level/top of WTC1 |
philb |
Aug-27-05 09:25 AM |
#126 |
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Firefighter reports WTC1 top mushroomed out. What caused it? |
philb |
Aug-28-05 05:26 PM |
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I've looked at the As on the page with list, and some Bs & Cs that |
philb |
Aug-14-05 01:07 PM |
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FIREFIGHTER RICHARD BANACISKI WTC2- explosions before collapse |
philb |
Aug-14-05 01:26 PM |
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EMT-P ANDRE CHERRINGTON WTC2 Big boom before it fell |
philb |
Aug-19-05 10:33 PM |
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The big boom was about 1-2 minutes before it fell. |
janedoe |
Aug-19-05 11:19 PM |
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A lot of the firemen statements say something happened |
philb |
Aug-20-05 03:55 PM |
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More firemen thought there were explosions & huge chunk fell off WTC2 |
philb |
Aug-29-05 11:23 PM |
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And people say there's no smoking gun? |
pox americana |
Aug-29-05 11:39 PM |
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WTC2 exploded from about midway up the building & controlled dem. |
philb |
Aug-22-05 11:03 PM |
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squib explosions all around one floor as in controlled dem. movie |
philb |
Aug-23-05 10:23 PM |
#114 |
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More firefighter reports of explosions before WTC2 fell |
philb |
Aug-27-05 07:07 AM |
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WCT2 firemen report jet sounds, tipling,explosions. What caused that sound |
philb |
Aug-28-05 04:59 PM |
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What was the jet sound heard by many at WTC before towers "collapsed" |
philb |
Aug-30-05 08:51 PM |
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WTC2- large explosion below plane impact area before the collapse |
philb |
Aug-31-05 11:28 PM |
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What caused the facade of WTC2 to separate, or the big tilt |
philb |
Aug-22-05 11:21 PM |
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summary compilation of firefighter statements begun at: |
philb |
Aug-14-05 02:32 PM |
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It is so damned obvious there were bombs |
mirandapriestly |
Aug-14-05 03:03 PM |
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FIREFIGHTER BERTRAM SPRINGSTEAD . . . |
Klimmer |
Aug-15-05 02:41 AM |
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Still reading, but the FBI had offices in the North Tower.Read my post #7. |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Aug-15-05 08:35 AM |
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Man, that is a loaded one |
mirandapriestly |
Aug-15-05 08:41 AM |
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More thought about the elevators . . . |
Klimmer |
Aug-15-05 09:35 AM |
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Website on what happens when all the cables on an elevator break . . . |
Klimmer |
Aug-15-05 01:07 PM |
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Some elevators were working at WTC1 |
philb |
Sep-02-05 07:44 PM |
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WTC1 lobby and elevators were ok early |
philb |
Aug-20-05 08:52 PM |
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Request |
janedoe |
Aug-20-05 09:11 PM |
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I didn't do that when I collected snips. Someone could look at the main |
philb |
Sep-08-05 09:01 PM |
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philb, you are doing great work! Thank you! I have a question about |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Aug-15-05 08:57 AM |
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This one; is it the only one blacked out? Which are you using |
philb |
Aug-15-05 11:57 AM |
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OK, I just didn't read some of those interviews. Thanks! n/t |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Aug-15-05 01:36 PM |
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WTC TASK FORCE INTERVIEW FIREFIGHTER EDWARD SHEEHEY |
Klimmer |
Aug-15-05 02:01 PM |
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Brian Becker, FDNY blast in lobby of WTC1- away from WTC2 |
philb |
Aug-15-05 02:09 PM |
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Arresting an Arab-looking guy???? |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Aug-15-05 02:30 PM |
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I remember articles about there being a question after 9/11 of |
philb |
Aug-15-05 04:10 PM |
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I hadn't heard of this arrest either, and did hear of the Israelis. |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Aug-15-05 04:53 PM |
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The "Dancing Israelis" were observed across the Hudson at Liberty Park; |
petgoat |
Aug-15-05 05:34 PM |
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I saw fireman report of FBI arresting an arab wearing a suit walking |
philb |
Aug-27-05 10:04 AM |
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firefighters leaving WTC1 find lobby blasted |
philb |
Aug-19-05 10:22 PM |
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How many minutes did it take for WTC2 to collapse??? Jody Bell, EMT |
philb |
Aug-15-05 08:45 PM |
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By chance the 1st I opened was EDWARD CACHIA |
jbnow |
Aug-15-05 09:27 PM |
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thanks for post. I can't do them all. But we need a system. So many. n/t |
philb |
Aug-15-05 09:39 PM |
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Good One, Careful Reading Finds The Gems Of Truth |
Christophera |
Aug-18-05 01:32 AM |
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Another fireman says WTC2 took several minutes to collapse |
philb |
Aug-15-05 09:34 PM |
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EMT: WTC2 explosions & falls in 2 stages |
philb |
Aug-19-05 09:53 PM |
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Wow - thanks for this thread, philb and everyone else |
meganmonkey |
Aug-15-05 09:26 PM |
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unlike news and 9/11 report statements, a lot of the firemen radios worked |
philb |
Aug-16-05 11:42 PM |
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"I saw low-level flashes" and then it looked like the building came down |
rumpel |
Aug-17-05 01:59 AM |
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BTW I can not find Lieutenant Evangelista's testimony.. |
rumpel |
Aug-17-05 06:08 PM |
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Wow-- this is an amazing one-- controlled demo for sure. |
spooked911 |
Aug-20-05 04:35 PM |
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Richard Boeri FDNY WTC2 - crackling & explosion before collapse |
philb |
Aug-17-05 08:39 PM |
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red flashes and explosions before WTC1 "collapsed" |
philb |
Aug-19-05 12:03 AM |
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WTC2- Krakling; IT SOUNDED LIKE A MILLION FIRECRACKERS |
philb |
Aug-20-05 07:51 PM |
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Fireman, lots of info blanked out & missile attack had been reported |
philb |
Aug-17-05 09:24 PM |
#51 |
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EMT reports 3 loud explosions before WTC1 collapsed |
philb |
Aug-17-05 09:56 PM |
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did the firemen hear explosions (or pancaking ) when the buildings fell? |
philb |
Aug-18-05 09:03 PM |
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Its obvious watching media and other influences affected the |
philb |
Aug-18-05 09:09 PM |
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I've noticed that |
mirandapriestly |
Aug-18-05 11:30 PM |
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FIREFIGHTER FERNANDO CAMACHO WTC2 Explosions |
philb |
Aug-18-05 09:14 PM |
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Explosions at WTC2 John Coyle, Fire Marshall |
philb |
Aug-21-05 12:07 AM |
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WTC2 thunderous sound, then sway, then collapse; and debris set him |
philb |
Aug-21-05 12:41 AM |
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PARAMEDIC KEVIN DARNOWSKI 3 Explosions heard before WTC2 fell |
philb |
Aug-21-05 12:51 PM |
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FATHER JOHN DELENDICK FDNY bombs & explosions before WTC2 fell |
philb |
Aug-21-05 02:04 PM |
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4 more firemen thought there were explosions at WTC2 before it fell |
philb |
Aug-21-05 07:06 PM |
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2 more firemen thought there were explosions at WTC2 |
philb |
Aug-21-05 09:16 PM |
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Where did the plane debris and bodies end up? How many of the |
philb |
Aug-18-05 10:26 PM |
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I was trying to figure that out, too. From what I have read so far, FD |
rumpel |
Aug-18-05 11:39 PM |
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It would be really important if we could find out from these histories |
spooked911 |
Aug-20-05 04:37 PM |
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landing gear from plane that hit WTC2 was in parking lot outside |
philb |
Aug-20-05 07:23 PM |
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but it seems, the "jumpers" are co-mingled with the possible plane victims |
rumpel |
Aug-23-05 12:29 AM |
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Funny how LARED, M-ATC, Make7, Hack89 have nothing to say about this |
spooked911 |
Aug-20-05 04:30 PM |
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Shoot, you know the routine by now. |
LARED |
Aug-20-05 07:16 PM |
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Is that the best you got? |
seatnineb |
Aug-21-05 02:00 PM |
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Very Good Observation. Is It Cognitive Failure, Denial, Or Subterfuge? |
Christophera |
Aug-20-05 08:17 PM |
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It's funny how things work out sometimes |
LARED |
Aug-21-05 07:45 AM |
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LMAO |
vincent_vega_lives |
Aug-21-05 08:41 AM |
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Must Be Subterfuge Because MANY Saw Concrete Core And Wrote Of It. USENET! |
Christophera |
Aug-21-05 01:09 PM |
#92 |
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Since there are eyewitnesses..... |
Make7 |
Aug-22-05 05:46 AM |
#103 |
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Some pentagon eye-witnesses contradict themselves and eachother n/t |
seatnineb |
Aug-22-05 08:32 AM |
#104 |
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There are witnesses here that the plane that hit WTC2 was big jet |
philb |
Aug-22-05 08:54 PM |
#105 |
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Yes, where and when they saw Chief Ganci... |
rumpel |
Aug-23-05 12:33 AM |
#112 |
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Are you fucking kidding me? |
Make7 |
Aug-23-05 08:14 AM |
#113 |
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have you ever witnessed one yourself? |
spooked911 |
Aug-27-05 09:22 AM |
#125 |
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I'm talking relative degrees of loudness. |
philb |
Aug-27-05 10:12 AM |
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Which plane did this fuselage come from and how the wheel get this far ? |
philb |
Aug-21-05 12:32 PM |
#90 |
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2nd plane hits & piece of a plane on Liberty St |
philb |
Aug-21-05 07:48 PM |
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Excellent, important work, philb! |
woody b |
Aug-21-05 03:44 PM |
#97 |
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I've grouped the firemen statements about the planes into category types: |
philb |
Sep-14-05 09:14 PM |
#151 |
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People above both crashes survived/walked down stairs; why not more? |
philb |
Aug-24-05 10:15 PM |
#115 |
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what was the high pitched, jet type sound before towers "collapsed"? |
philb |
Aug-27-05 10:18 AM |
#130 |
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Another fireman thought he heard jet sound before WTC2 "collapsed" |
philb |
Aug-31-05 11:34 PM |
#144 |
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