What do we know & how do we know it ?

[moof]

moof is not a novice at this 9/11 deal and is convinced that LIHOP
in some form is the explanation for 9/11 with the stated goals of PNAC as the justification.

Still it is getting more & more annoying to hear people say things that have no evidence what so ever to back them up.

Being reclusive & skeptical may be part of the problem but for example
has there been any evidence varified or even seen by an independent source that shows any of the following ?

1. There were 19 " hi jackers "

Has someone listened to cell phone tapes or gone over all the statements from people that " Said " they got phone calls from people on the planes to come to this 19 hijackers figure ?

2. The Majority of the " Hi jackers " were Saudis "

Again since some of the people that were said to have been Hijackers have turned up alive why is any of the rest of the info about these hijackers given any play at all ? Not doubting the jets were hijacked but it seems unlikely that so much information could have been gathered on them from what little paper trails were left from buying tickets and the second & third hand accounts of people's cell phone calls from the plane.

So has this info been talked about somewhere that has some credibility
or are people that should know better simply using some of the goverments talking points because otherwise the masses have no idea what is being discussed ?