Reply #20: The admirals at pearl harbor

[davidswanson]

were not told, much less your grandfather. That's the point. I'm not going to argue that you-plural, whoever this big you is, knew, because I'm arguing against that. In fact, nobody can be found to dispute it and the evidence is overwhelming. The scapegoats were not informed. I also don't think your family started WWII. I think pro-war policies from 1918 forward created WWII and that FDR was hell-bent on getting into it for years. Military jobs are jobs, but you get many more jobs for the same dollars with nonmilitary industires, and you avoid killing people. Yes, I very much want to dishonor military "service." I want to stigmatize it. I want to turn thoughtful people away from it. I don't think we have any other choice if we are to survive as a species terribly much longer. Why the hell would Germans guilty of complicity in mass-murder be innocent??