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OnTheOtherHand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 06:32 PM
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16. say whaa?
"precise" in the sense of the visible execution and end result


He managed to hit a really, really big building.

VMO, per Federal Aviation Regulations, "is a speed that may not be deliberately exceeded in any regime of flight (climb, cruise, or descent), unless a higher speed is authorized for flight test or pilot training operations." So, in effect, you're saying: "OMG, the plane was speeding -- yeah, right." It's odd.

spooked, I don't think it is unreasonable for readers to hope that your posts will reveal more about 9/11 than about yourself. I accept your observation about when you "heard the 'power dive' argument," but really, what does that have to do with anything?
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  -The improbability of piloting UA175 spooked911  Nov-27-11 05:26 PM   #0 
  - "Why"?  zappaman   Nov-27-11 06:04 PM   #1 
  - I don't know.  Larry L. Burks   Nov-27-11 06:33 PM   #2 
  - Thanks Larry!  zappaman   Nov-27-11 07:45 PM   #3 
  - Someone has GOT to look into the abject failure of the chemtrails program  jberryhill   Nov-28-11 12:17 AM   #6 
  - Larry, how is your energy machine coming along?  jberryhill   Nov-27-11 09:49 PM   #5 
  - I don't believe the OP was saying there were planes (nt)  T S Justly   Nov-29-11 01:39 PM   #20 
  - Ah, spooked, enjoying the holiday weekend?  jberryhill   Nov-27-11 09:44 PM   #4 
  - Texas sharpshooter fallacy coming through!  KDLarsen   Nov-28-11 02:01 AM   #7 
  - "correct for crosswind"  spooked911   Nov-28-11 06:56 AM   #8 
  - if it wasn't planned, then in what sense would it be "precise"?  OnTheOtherHand   Nov-28-11 07:37 AM   #9 
     - "precise" in the sense of the visible execution and end result  spooked911   Nov-28-11 12:01 PM   #10 
        - say whaa?  OnTheOtherHand   Nov-28-11 06:32 PM   #16 
           - you're hopeless  spooked911   Nov-28-11 07:51 PM   #17 
              - if you had better arguments, you'd get better results  OnTheOtherHand   Nov-29-11 11:57 AM   #19 
                 - I may not have taken account of every rebuttal, but certainly I pointed out the power-dive rebuttal  spooked911   Dec-02-11 09:47 AM   #28 
                    - wake up  OnTheOtherHand   Dec-02-11 11:27 AM   #31 
                       - are you a lawyer in real life?  spooked911   Dec-03-11 06:53 PM   #33 
                          - I think you should stop impugning me and spend more time on your posts  OnTheOtherHand   Dec-03-11 07:44 PM   #34 
                             - funny, coming from someone who endlessly impugns me  spooked911   Dec-04-11 08:53 AM   #36 
                                - I try very hard to be patient  OnTheOtherHand   Dec-04-11 09:31 AM   #38 
                                   - On your general points, I understand your sentiments, and thanks for the anecdote.  spooked911   Dec-05-11 01:25 PM   #43 
                                   - that is clear, but not at all convincing  OnTheOtherHand   Dec-06-11 08:01 AM   #44 
                                      - do you think the "regulatory limit" of Vmo is arbitrary or for a reason?  spooked911   Dec-06-11 12:28 PM   #45 
                                         - so a bullshit Socratic number is the best thing you've got?  OnTheOtherHand   Dec-06-11 01:14 PM   #47 
                                         - I've answered plenty of your questions... jeesh  spooked911   Dec-07-11 07:24 PM   #54 
                                            - spooked, I could not make it more clear  OnTheOtherHand   Dec-08-11 06:35 AM   #57 
                                         - Since Vne = "never exceed speed" why are you so concerned by Vmo?  hack89   Dec-07-11 04:06 PM   #49 
                                         - The Vne of a 767 is .86 mach = 560 knots at 1000 feet.  hack89   Dec-07-11 04:12 PM   #51 
                                            - I think your first link is as I've pasted below  OnTheOtherHand   Dec-07-11 05:32 PM   #52 
                                            - But you agree that Vne is the speed you need to concern yourself with? nt  hack89   Dec-07-11 06:21 PM   #53 
                                            - let me put it this way  OnTheOtherHand   Dec-08-11 06:51 AM   #58 
                                            - it's not at all clear that Vne = 0.86 mach at 1000 feet  spooked911   Dec-07-11 07:42 PM   #55 
                                               - Then find a different calculation that gives a different result.  hack89   Dec-07-11 09:29 PM   #56 
                                   - btw, it's funny-- you clearly are interested in conspiracies,  spooked911   Dec-06-11 12:32 PM   #46 
                                      - ?  OnTheOtherHand   Dec-06-11 01:22 PM   #48 
  - please explain how you think I used this fallacy  spooked911   Nov-28-11 12:06 PM   #11 
  - I'll be you $1000 dollars I can do it. in a simulator  ryan_cats   Nov-28-11 04:46 PM   #12 
  - "1) Throttles, 2) Yolk, 3) rudder"  jberryhill   Nov-28-11 05:45 PM   #14 
  - I like my yolks, sunny side up  ryan_cats   Nov-29-11 03:59 PM   #22 
  - I don't think you'd need 4 hours to do it.....  Old and In the Way   Nov-29-11 09:13 PM   #23 
  - doing it at 540 mph is impossible  spooked911   Dec-02-11 09:34 AM   #26 
  - Plane breaks up  ryan_cats   Dec-02-11 10:55 AM   #29 
  - did you hit it going 540 mph?  spooked911   Dec-04-11 08:56 AM   #37 
  - I have tried -- using Flight Sim  spooked911   Dec-02-11 09:34 AM   #25 
     - I know you have a high opinion of yourself...  ryan_cats   Dec-04-11 07:22 PM   #42 
  - A few points of discussion  sgsmith   Nov-28-11 05:27 PM   #13 
  - Thanks-- a few points in response  spooked911   Dec-02-11 09:42 AM   #27 
  - Response  sgsmith   Dec-04-11 01:58 PM   #39 
  - I don't get the planned maneuver part  deconstruct911   Dec-02-11 11:15 AM   #30 
     - But flight 11 did bank.  sgsmith   Dec-02-11 01:33 PM   #32 
  - Spooked, you are right on time  LARED   Nov-28-11 06:01 PM   #15 
  - good info, thnx (nt)  T S Justly   Nov-29-11 01:52 AM   #18 
  - cuz they saw it on teevee  mrarundale   Nov-29-11 02:18 PM   #21 
  - The idea that there was mass panicking following Well's WotW broadcast is a myth  salvorhardin   Dec-03-11 07:51 PM   #35 
     - How do you know?  mrarundale   Dec-04-11 04:40 PM   #40 
  - That is an excellent question...  terrafirma   Nov-29-11 10:21 PM   #24 
  - Many don't believe it  mrarundale   Dec-04-11 04:43 PM   #41 
  - The Vne of a 767 is .86 mach = 560 knots at 1000 feet.  hack89   Dec-07-11 04:11 PM   #50 
  - This has been posted before  deconstruct911   Dec-11-11 03:41 PM   #59 
     - It's ALL been posted before D911  mrarundale   Dec-12-11 06:23 PM   #60 
        - You got me  deconstruct911   Dec-12-11 07:31 PM   #61 
 

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