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MFrohike Donating Member (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 03:16 AM
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11. I'm not a suspicious guy
I'm really not. Generally, I find many things went exactly as they were said to have gone. I'm one of those rare birds who has no trouble with the idea that Oswald killed Kennedy. I say that not to get people worked up (please don't), but to show that I'm not one who really sees sinister machinations on a regular basis.

Having said that, I have real trouble with this story. It makes no sense for Iran to antagonize the US like this. Such an attack would be like Pearl Harbor. It would be a direct attack on the US and would end, rightfully, with the end of their revolution. That's what makes this story reek. Why in the hell would Iran, having closely observed the entire Iraq saga, choose to start a fight with the US over a Saudi ambassador? That's not using strategic options, it's suicide.

The other thing that bothers me is the idea that Mexican cartel would go for this sort of thing. Given the horrendous violence in Mexico over the last few years, the cartels have to know that US policymakers would love to get involved directly. I've seen multiple news stories that note the cartels have been extremely careful not to let the violence spill into the US and give us an excuse. So, assuming that the cartels aren't headed by morons, why would they risk an action designed to bring the wrath of God down on their heads? It makes no sense.

Maybe there's something I'm not seeing. I don't pretend to have all the facts. All I can say is that, on the face of it, this story makes no sense. I feel like I did when I heard the Axis of Evil speech. I was blown away that a bunch of people who didn't crash planes into WTC and the Pentagon were suddenly the enemy. I'm getting that feeling all over again.
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  -I am not buying this "Iranian Terror Plot" one bit Hugabear  Oct-12-11 11:16 PM   #0 
  - Me neither. It stinks to high heaven.  Odin2005   Oct-12-11 11:22 PM   #1 
  - What stinks to high heaven......  AverageJoe90   Oct-13-11 02:28 AM   #8 
  - So, you're saying the Obama Administration is Lying to You...  brooklynite   Oct-12-11 11:25 PM   #2 
  - So you believe the official story?  Hugabear   Oct-12-11 11:43 PM   #7 
  - Everything in the world is not about Obama.  DirkGently   Oct-13-11 12:52 PM   #37 
  - It certainly is not: but the buck surely stops at his desk  indepat   Oct-13-11 01:39 PM   #41 
     - Absolutely. I just question the need to view every OP through the "Obama -- yay or boo?" lens.  DirkGently   Oct-13-11 02:09 PM   #47 
  - Where is the evidence that they are not lying?  BeHereNow   Oct-13-11 12:57 PM   #39 
  - If that's how you want to spin it, no problem.  JackRiddler   Oct-18-11 10:21 AM   #53 
  - No, it's an obvious attempt to replace a dead bogeyman  Warpy   Oct-12-11 11:35 PM   #3 
  - +1  sarcasmo   Nov-24-11 02:59 PM   #54 
  - Sounds like a lot of the other FBI-enabled non-plots trumpeted.  DirkGently   Oct-12-11 11:37 PM   #4 
  - I'm betting your take on it is a pretty close to reality.  octothorpe   Oct-13-11 07:13 AM   #20 
     - Be strange if people didn't at least consider the possibility. Overplayed threats are now the norm.  DirkGently   Oct-13-11 12:54 PM   #38 
  - Honestly, I believe we are being sold propaganda to start an eventual war with Iran.  FarLeftFist   Oct-12-11 11:38 PM   #5 
  - I agree except about the Obama part.  PSPS   Oct-12-11 11:42 PM   #6 
  - No, Obama's not a sociopath. I think in some cases he's too scared to call the actual sociopaths  anAustralianobserver   Oct-13-11 03:05 AM   #9 
     - I agree  MFrohike   Oct-13-11 03:07 AM   #10 
     - Will look up McKinley - I wonder if there's a movie about him.  anAustralianobserver   Oct-13-11 03:51 AM   #13 
        - Kind of weak  MFrohike   Oct-13-11 04:09 AM   #15 
     - Some people that do a similar thing in this country are called "accomplices"  court jester   Oct-13-11 03:28 AM   #12 
     - I like to think Obama is working with the Clintons and good guys in the Pentagon, Agencies and  anAustralianobserver   Oct-13-11 04:37 AM   #17 
        - Recognizing that it IS fantasy is the first step towards healing.  COLGATE4   Oct-13-11 09:46 AM   #27 
     - Then he has no business being President nt  Dreamer Tatum   Oct-13-11 09:55 AM   #32 
  - yup... didn't Biden state that "all options were on the Table"  fascisthunter   Oct-13-11 09:48 AM   #28 
  - We can't start another war. The U.S. cannot afford it. n/t  RebelOne   Oct-13-11 01:54 PM   #43 
     - Not only Iran , but good reason to send more military down to occupy Mexico too  lunasun   Oct-13-11 02:03 PM   #45 
  - I'm not a suspicious guy  MFrohike   Oct-13-11 03:16 AM   #11 
  - An excellent summation of what reeks with this story. The involvement of  snagglepuss   Oct-13-11 07:33 AM   #21 
  - Ding ding ding, we have a winner!  Hugabear   Oct-13-11 09:09 AM   #24 
  - Pearl Harbor or the sinking of the Maine?  DirkGently   Oct-13-11 12:48 PM   #35 
  - All reports from his neighbors have it  quaker bill   Oct-13-11 04:02 AM   #14 
  - I don't buy it either  me b zola   Oct-13-11 04:13 AM   #16 
  - Syria hotbed of major geopolitical game  Dover   Oct-13-11 06:44 AM   #18 
  - Iran, Iraq, Syria Gas Pipeline Deal to rival US-backed Nabucco pipeline  Dover   Oct-13-11 06:50 AM   #19 
  - yup...n/t  BeHereNow   Oct-13-11 01:03 PM   #40 
  - I'll reserve judgement for now, but I don't find the official story all that far fetched  Major Nikon   Oct-13-11 07:36 AM   #22 
  - It's not just you.  chrisa   Oct-13-11 08:03 AM   #23 
  - me neither  Carolina   Oct-13-11 09:15 AM   #25 
  - It could be a "Wag the Dog" type of situation  justiceischeap   Oct-13-11 09:18 AM   #26 
  - On the other hand, we gave them guns that they're now killing us with.  chrisa   Oct-13-11 01:51 PM   #42 
  - You should read on those yahoos  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-13-11 09:49 AM   #29 
  - Oh and as predicted  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-13-11 09:50 AM   #30 
  - I hoped the batshit conspiracy theories would have died down after Jan 2009.  Dreamer Tatum   Oct-13-11 09:54 AM   #31 
  - I would've thought the same if we found WMDs in Iraq, it's logical NOT to trust our intel ciommunity  uponit7771   Oct-13-11 10:11 AM   #33 
  - Nothing batshit in questioning a ludicrous accusation against a ME country suggesting war.  DirkGently   Oct-13-11 12:52 PM   #36 
  - Same here, and even more, I don't even care.  krabigirl   Oct-13-11 10:43 AM   #34 
  - Fergitaboutit. The Iranians have assassinated people for 30+ years.  vets74   Oct-13-11 01:58 PM   #44 
  - How many by way of a public bombing on U.S. soil, by the way?  DirkGently   Oct-13-11 02:19 PM   #48 
     - IRAN COPIES CHILE. Big deal. Orlando Letelier and Ronni Moffat hit.  vets74   Oct-13-11 08:33 PM   #50 
  - I was thinking the same thing  Cali_Democrat   Oct-13-11 02:07 PM   #46 
  - Totally agree n/t  dflprincess   Oct-16-11 09:14 PM   #52 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-13-11 08:30 PM   #49 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-16-11 05:34 PM   #51 
 

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