| -Ten Thoughts on This Tenth Anniversary |
spooked911 |
Sep-11-11 08:01 AM |
#0 |
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I would prefer if this first reply |
spooked911 |
Sep-11-11 08:04 AM |
#1 |
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True -- seems to be a case of .... |
defendandprotect |
Sep-25-11 05:25 AM |
#269 |
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LOL |
terrafirma |
Sep-11-11 09:21 AM |
#2 |
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yeah, hiLARious |
spooked911 |
Sep-11-11 01:47 PM |
#3 |
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What's even more hiLARious |
terrafirma |
Sep-11-11 02:59 PM |
#5 |
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mini-nukes!!!! |
zappaman |
Sep-11-11 05:00 PM |
#10 |
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Wow ... that is an amazing site for information --- thank you -- !!! |
defendandprotect |
Sep-25-11 05:38 AM |
#270 |
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number one is my favorite. |
zappaman |
Sep-11-11 02:16 PM |
#4 |
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My favs are 9, 5, and 4 |
LARED |
Sep-11-11 05:03 PM |
#11 |
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Question |
greytdemocrat |
Sep-11-11 03:08 PM |
#6 |
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Check with Cheney --- |
defendandprotect |
Sep-25-11 05:38 AM |
#271 |
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Spooked, I would have to say that you are one of the most interesting |
Flatulo |
Sep-11-11 03:59 PM |
#7 |
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Wow, just wow. I'm speechless. nt |
LARED |
Sep-11-11 04:49 PM |
#8 |
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I agree with most of your observations, spooked, but am going to need convincing on |
Mist |
Sep-11-11 04:51 PM |
#9 |
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Wait... what? |
Flatulo |
Sep-11-11 07:21 PM |
#18 |
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Thanks |
spooked911 |
Sep-11-11 07:24 PM |
#19 |
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Maybe it's because your positions on 9/11 are rather unique and |
Flatulo |
Sep-11-11 08:28 PM |
#26 |
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I wasn't talking about people not being interested in my view of 9/11 |
spooked911 |
Sep-12-11 08:04 AM |
#39 |
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Ah, I see. Well, I think we can chalk that up to the attention-defecit |
Flatulo |
Sep-12-11 04:38 PM |
#49 |
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But you can't be the judge of that |
jberryhill |
Sep-12-11 06:25 PM |
#53 |
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And she makes a damn fine rabbit rabbit stew. nt |
Flatulo |
Sep-12-11 09:59 PM |
#56 |
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Well, that would account for the handy empty cages |
jberryhill |
Sep-12-11 10:49 PM |
#57 |
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As I've said 100 times |
BobbyBoring |
Sep-13-11 11:08 AM |
#62 |
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Hey, the Native American Indian was "surprised" over and over again ... !!! |
defendandprotect |
Sep-25-11 05:48 AM |
#272 |
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I don't suppose that it will surprise anyone that I agree totally with |
teddy51 |
Sep-11-11 05:03 PM |
#12 |
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I believe number 9. |
LARED |
Sep-11-11 05:09 PM |
#13 |
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In this shitty economy, those Bushco checks really come in handy. |
Flatulo |
Sep-11-11 05:11 PM |
#14 |
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Why is it important to convince them? People have their minds made up, just as those of us |
Mist |
Sep-11-11 06:23 PM |
#15 |
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So true |
terrafirma |
Sep-11-11 06:38 PM |
#16 |
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yet PM and NIST present deeply flawed analyses |
spooked911 |
Sep-11-11 07:27 PM |
#21 |
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You thoroughly debunked NIST?? |
terrafirma |
Sep-11-11 08:11 PM |
#25 |
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is there any point trying to have a discussion about this with you? |
spooked911 |
Sep-12-11 08:23 AM |
#41 |
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mini-nukes! n/t |
zappaman |
Sep-12-11 12:38 PM |
#43 |
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Actually, I really wish you'd give up .... |
defendandprotect |
Sep-25-11 05:54 AM |
#275 |
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I guess I'm just doing it for sport now, and as you say we believe what we believe |
teddy51 |
Sep-11-11 06:53 PM |
#17 |
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Belief without objective proof = religion. nt |
Flatulo |
Sep-11-11 08:30 PM |
#27 |
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Huh? WTF are talking about? n/t |
teddy51 |
Sep-11-11 09:46 PM |
#29 |
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I guess my question is, what do you consider objective proof? n/t |
teddy51 |
Sep-11-11 10:05 PM |
#30 |
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Objective proof is evidence that isn't subject to interpretation. |
Flatulo |
Sep-11-11 10:32 PM |
#32 |
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I call bullshit! 911 was was done by insiders (Thermite most likely) and I would like you |
teddy51 |
Sep-11-11 10:48 PM |
#34 |
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Have fun in lala land. I'll be out here enjoying reality. nt |
Flatulo |
Sep-11-11 10:54 PM |
#36 |
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LOL |
zappaman |
Sep-12-11 12:00 AM |
#37 |
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your words: "as you say we believe what we believe" |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-12-11 05:13 AM |
#38 |
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Then you disagree with the OP |
jberryhill |
Sep-12-11 06:28 PM |
#54 |
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Please .... |
defendandprotect |
Sep-25-11 05:56 AM |
#276 |
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Let me hasten to add that the 9/11 Commission Report, which I've actually read, |
Flatulo |
Sep-11-11 10:39 PM |
#33 |
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Again, Bullshit! n/t |
teddy51 |
Sep-11-11 10:50 PM |
#35 |
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It's far from unassailable |
BobbyBoring |
Sep-13-11 11:13 AM |
#63 |
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Sorry, we're done here. |
Flatulo |
Sep-14-11 05:59 AM |
#78 |
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nice attempt at deflection |
hang a left |
Sep-14-11 03:10 PM |
#85 |
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The towers weren't blown up. |
Flatulo |
Sep-14-11 03:13 PM |
#86 |
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Tell these first responders, victims, and eyewitnesses |
hang a left |
Sep-14-11 03:38 PM |
#91 |
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I see. And do these first responders know that explosions |
Flatulo |
Sep-14-11 04:40 PM |
#98 |
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And this is an old attempt at debunking.... |
hang a left |
Sep-14-11 05:06 PM |
#103 |
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Hang. Use your common sense. Why go through all the trouble of waiting until some useful idiots flew |
Flatulo |
Sep-14-11 05:46 PM |
#108 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Sep-14-11 06:19 PM |
#115 |
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Treasonous? You'd better wake up and retract that, my friend. |
Flatulo |
Sep-14-11 06:23 PM |
#116 |
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I cleaned it up. I don't want to get in trouble |
hang a left |
Sep-14-11 06:30 PM |
#119 |
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Tell you what. If you feel strongly enough about it, why don't you address my points? |
Flatulo |
Sep-14-11 06:37 PM |
#124 |
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They are all masterfully answered in the video I posted |
hang a left |
Sep-14-11 06:44 PM |
#127 |
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Not a surprising response. nt |
Flatulo |
Sep-14-11 06:48 PM |
#128 |
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Just one that you didn't want. |
hang a left |
Sep-14-11 06:57 PM |
#132 |
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bad post, dumb video |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-14-11 06:27 PM |
#117 |
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Is that all you got?? |
hang a left |
Sep-14-11 06:31 PM |
#121 |
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you post stupid-ass links, and you want me to waste my time writing? |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-14-11 08:27 PM |
#134 |
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Your failure to address my points speaks volumes. Oh well, at least |
Flatulo |
Sep-14-11 06:34 PM |
#122 |
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Who you gonna trust??? |
hang a left |
Sep-14-11 06:53 PM |
#130 |
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Oops, you forgot door #3 |
Flatulo |
Sep-14-11 10:52 PM |
#140 |
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Empty post |
hang a left |
Sep-15-11 12:15 AM |
#143 |
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You mean the evidence I addressed here? |
Flatulo |
Sep-15-11 01:21 AM |
#148 |
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Old and tired. |
hang a left |
Sep-15-11 01:38 AM |
#155 |
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assuming they wanted to take down the towers, the '93 attacks showed they couldn't simply |
spooked911 |
Sep-15-11 06:58 AM |
#173 |
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Was '93 attack simply a practice run -- objective to get Clinton to attack Iraq ... ???? |
defendandprotect |
Sep-25-11 06:01 AM |
#278 |
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Just like D.B. building |
deconstruct911 |
Sep-27-11 11:15 AM |
#294 |
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Too incriminating for security? |
terrafirma |
Sep-27-11 06:13 PM |
#295 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Sep-25-11 05:58 AM |
#277 |
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The towers weren't blown up. |
zappaman |
Sep-14-11 03:49 PM |
#92 |
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Yes they were |
hang a left |
Sep-14-11 04:19 PM |
#95 |
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of all the "truthers" I have encountered |
zappaman |
Sep-14-11 04:53 PM |
#100 |
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That video scares the crap out of you doesn't it?? |
hang a left |
Sep-14-11 05:02 PM |
#102 |
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LOL |
zappaman |
Sep-14-11 05:14 PM |
#105 |
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Chicken |
hang a left |
Sep-14-11 05:16 PM |
#106 |
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well, no, they're far from the ultimate authorities |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-14-11 07:23 AM |
#80 |
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Unassailable?? that is a good one! |
hang a left |
Sep-14-11 03:07 PM |
#84 |
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Okay, assail away. Be sure to show all your math. |
Flatulo |
Sep-14-11 03:15 PM |
#88 |
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Assail the eyewitnesses |
hang a left |
Sep-14-11 03:34 PM |
#90 |
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no math in that video |
zappaman |
Sep-14-11 03:52 PM |
#93 |
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The movement has PROVEN beyond any reasonable doubt that the |
hang a left |
Sep-14-11 04:22 PM |
#96 |
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than why not answer my questions? |
zappaman |
Sep-14-11 04:52 PM |
#99 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Sep-14-11 05:00 PM |
#101 |
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A claim is a smoking gun? Jesus, only in your mind. |
Flatulo |
Sep-14-11 05:57 PM |
#112 |
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That is not a claim |
hang a left |
Sep-14-11 06:41 PM |
#126 |
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yo, the videos don't show explosives bringing down the towers |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-14-11 08:35 PM |
#136 |
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I think we can leave it to the observer to figure out |
hang a left |
Sep-15-11 12:36 AM |
#144 |
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Agreed. So run along and stop smearing those who disagree with you. |
Flatulo |
Sep-15-11 01:28 AM |
#150 |
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You run along |
hang a left |
Sep-15-11 01:33 AM |
#152 |
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Want to have a contest to see who can stay awake the longest and get the last word in? |
Flatulo |
Sep-15-11 01:35 AM |
#154 |
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I would be willing to bet that you have others that will help |
hang a left |
Sep-15-11 01:41 AM |
#156 |
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Nope, I'm here all by my lonesome. I have a box of cigars |
Flatulo |
Sep-15-11 01:43 AM |
#157 |
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OK when you come up with something interesting to talk about |
hang a left |
Sep-15-11 01:45 AM |
#158 |
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We could talk about the points in Gage's video that I addresed here... |
Flatulo |
Sep-15-11 01:48 AM |
#159 |
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It is not Gage's video |
hang a left |
Sep-15-11 01:51 AM |
#160 |
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Show me which link you mean... all I've seen are the links to Gage's Magic Show. |
Flatulo |
Sep-15-11 01:53 AM |
#161 |
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Haven't dozed off, have you? The night is still young and my |
Flatulo |
Sep-15-11 01:58 AM |
#162 |
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Gage is the narrator.... |
hang a left |
Sep-15-11 02:01 AM |
#164 |
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Sorry, I did see that one. Yes, it does look like it's exploding, but. |
Flatulo |
Sep-15-11 02:12 AM |
#165 |
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It looks like it is exploding because it is. |
hang a left |
Sep-15-11 02:24 AM |
#166 |
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I've seen pictures of cherry red steel, which would be about 1200 degrees, but |
Flatulo |
Sep-15-11 02:45 AM |
#167 |
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Here is John Gross denying any knowledge and the |
hang a left |
Sep-15-11 02:51 AM |
#168 |
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Yeah, saw that one ages ago as well. |
Flatulo |
Sep-15-11 04:11 AM |
#170 |
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no, it looks like it is collapsing because it is |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-15-11 06:57 AM |
#172 |
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When you start to flash NIST around as the go to authority... |
hang a left |
Sep-15-11 03:24 AM |
#169 |
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When you trust only your eyes, you can be fooled by charlatans. |
Flatulo |
Sep-15-11 04:12 AM |
#171 |
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no, you don't think that at all |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-15-11 06:58 AM |
#174 |
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^^^ Not a claim? I beg to differ. |
Flatulo |
Sep-14-11 10:13 PM |
#138 |
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The buildings are exploding... |
hang a left |
Sep-15-11 12:50 AM |
#145 |
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Thanks for proving my case for me. Well done. |
Flatulo |
Sep-15-11 01:05 AM |
#146 |
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Nice try |
hang a left |
Sep-15-11 01:13 AM |
#147 |
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Hahahahahaha, you really are quite a piece of work, aren't you? |
Flatulo |
Sep-15-11 01:22 AM |
#149 |
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I didn't call you a name... |
hang a left |
Sep-15-11 01:30 AM |
#151 |
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You mean when you called myself and other "treasonous"? |
Flatulo |
Sep-15-11 01:34 AM |
#153 |
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The Movement has proven shit and I think you know this very well. |
Flatulo |
Sep-14-11 05:51 PM |
#110 |
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They have proven that all 3 towers were brought down by explosives |
hang a left |
Sep-14-11 06:39 PM |
#125 |
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Wow, such zeal. Such blind faith. |
LARED |
Sep-14-11 06:52 PM |
#129 |
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Don't be tripped up by those that would try to divert your attention |
hang a left |
Sep-14-11 07:00 PM |
#133 |
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It seems the answer is yes to all my questions. nt |
LARED |
Sep-14-11 09:24 PM |
#137 |
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No LARED |
hang a left |
Sep-15-11 12:14 AM |
#142 |
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Still accusing posters of being paid shiils? That's against the rules, you know. |
Flatulo |
Sep-15-11 01:59 AM |
#163 |
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Easy. They heard explosions. Explosions do not equal bombs. |
Flatulo |
Sep-14-11 05:50 PM |
#109 |
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Hang, eyewitnesses can be wrong. There were hundreds of eyewitnesses |
Flatulo |
Sep-14-11 06:04 PM |
#113 |
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I don't think it's about "convincing" anyone -- I think it's about getting information out -- |
defendandprotect |
Sep-25-11 05:52 AM |
#274 |
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maybe if you tried to post something persuasive? |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-11-11 07:25 PM |
#20 |
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how incredibly superficial |
spooked911 |
Sep-11-11 07:30 PM |
#22 |
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ROFLMAO |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-11-11 07:43 PM |
#24 |
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good for you |
spooked911 |
Sep-12-11 08:22 AM |
#40 |
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none of these arguments makes sense |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-12-11 08:56 AM |
#42 |
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I'm not sure why you picked that piece, as it was just a quick summary |
spooked911 |
Sep-12-11 12:57 PM |
#45 |
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Mini-nukes! n/t |
zappaman |
Sep-12-11 01:00 PM |
#46 |
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yep, I just cherry-picked the top 35 points |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-12-11 02:32 PM |
#47 |
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do you even accept that the WTC was destroyed by demolition? |
spooked911 |
Sep-13-11 06:55 AM |
#58 |
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of course I don't accept that |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-13-11 08:48 AM |
#60 |
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I didn't say I was unable to discuss the topic, I just said it was pointless |
spooked911 |
Sep-13-11 12:54 PM |
#65 |
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Mini-nukes! |
zappaman |
Sep-13-11 02:00 PM |
#66 |
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that would depend on the quality of the evidence |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-13-11 02:52 PM |
#67 |
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come on |
spooked911 |
Sep-13-11 09:10 PM |
#73 |
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if you want to argue demolition first, that's fine |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-14-11 04:48 AM |
#76 |
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so... just as a starting point-- |
spooked911 |
Sep-14-11 01:54 PM |
#81 |
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Mini-nukes! |
zappaman |
Sep-14-11 02:58 PM |
#82 |
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I think I'm familar with the basic points |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-14-11 08:30 PM |
#135 |
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"Incredulity, incredulity, woo, incredulity." |
spooked911 |
Sep-15-11 07:01 AM |
#176 |
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the top four arguments for demolition |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-15-11 10:07 AM |
#178 |
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Fair enough... |
spooked911 |
Sep-16-11 06:30 AM |
#183 |
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maybe you should choose one? |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-16-11 07:24 AM |
#185 |
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how is #7 an argument from incredulity? |
spooked911 |
Sep-16-11 08:09 PM |
#188 |
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you asserted, without basis, that the official accounts are impossible |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-17-11 08:30 AM |
#192 |
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Dude |
spooked911 |
Sep-17-11 10:52 AM |
#196 |
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stopping at the first error |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-17-11 11:26 AM |
#198 |
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you really need to keep going |
spooked911 |
Sep-17-11 11:28 AM |
#199 |
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actually not |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-17-11 11:35 AM |
#200 |
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maybe this will convince you... |
zappaman |
Sep-17-11 02:27 PM |
#201 |
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in each case, I guess I should give him credit for trying |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-17-11 02:46 PM |
#203 |
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what exactly is wrong with her argument so that it isn't strong proof? |
spooked911 |
Sep-17-11 02:29 PM |
#202 |
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I can't really find the argument, actually |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-17-11 03:23 PM |
#206 |
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Hmmm. It's like you simply don't want to even TRY |
spooked911 |
Sep-18-11 09:43 AM |
#208 |
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spooked, you evidently think that about many, many people |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-18-11 12:05 PM |
#209 |
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Do you think that the upper block of floors started falling as a solid accreted mass of |
spooked911 |
Sep-18-11 12:47 PM |
#210 |
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your questions are confused |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-18-11 01:43 PM |
#211 |
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but the collision involves individual floors |
spooked911 |
Sep-18-11 03:19 PM |
#212 |
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it involves individual molecules, in fact |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-18-11 03:56 PM |
#213 |
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OK, we were talking about timing, and so we need to understand the basic nature of the collisions. |
spooked911 |
Sep-18-11 04:03 PM |
#214 |
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not really either |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-18-11 04:14 PM |
#215 |
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why is it "much better to construe the upper block as a block than as a single floor"? |
spooked911 |
Sep-18-11 07:36 PM |
#216 |
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I'll try |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-18-11 08:55 PM |
#217 |
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as a matter of fact, I have not seen someone seriously deal with this issue before |
spooked911 |
Sep-19-11 06:58 AM |
#218 |
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truly, it's hard to know what you would construe as relevant |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-19-11 07:37 AM |
#219 |
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I'm not sure why you don't understand the significance of that question |
spooked911 |
Sep-19-11 12:10 PM |
#220 |
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it's important to get your assumptions out into the open |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-19-11 02:21 PM |
#221 |
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please, what does a hand hitting a board have to do with two floors colliding with each other? |
spooked911 |
Sep-19-11 08:19 PM |
#222 |
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What makes you think |
terrafirma |
Sep-19-11 08:23 PM |
#223 |
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do you seriously not know this? |
spooked911 |
Sep-19-11 10:03 PM |
#224 |
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Fair enough |
terrafirma |
Sep-19-11 11:06 PM |
#225 |
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why do you keep saying "two floors"? |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-20-11 06:38 AM |
#226 |
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why do I keep saying "two floors"? |
spooked911 |
Sep-20-11 04:18 PM |
#227 |
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the upper block falls on the lower block |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-20-11 05:13 PM |
#228 |
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wow, just fucking wow |
spooked911 |
Sep-20-11 07:57 PM |
#229 |
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did you not even read my post? |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-20-11 08:36 PM |
#230 |
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who is confused here? |
spooked911 |
Sep-21-11 08:21 AM |
#234 |
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yeah, sure, keep digging |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-21-11 09:58 AM |
#235 |
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please enlighten me why the uper floor was so much more invincible than the lower floor |
spooked911 |
Sep-21-11 08:02 PM |
#238 |
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keep digging |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-22-11 05:15 AM |
#239 |
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pray tell-- what physical principles have I invented? |
spooked911 |
Sep-22-11 05:55 AM |
#240 |
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no less irrelevant |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-22-11 06:15 AM |
#241 |
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First of all, you didn't say what physical principles I have violated |
spooked911 |
Sep-22-11 01:34 PM |
#242 |
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an odd form of moving the goalposts |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-22-11 01:59 PM |
#243 |
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Dude |
spooked911 |
Sep-22-11 10:21 PM |
#249 |
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"meeting across a large surface" |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-23-11 05:05 AM |
#252 |
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No, I'm done with you, I think. |
spooked911 |
Sep-23-11 08:40 AM |
#255 |
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it isn't a simple assumption at all |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-23-11 04:06 PM |
#259 |
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Tilting is a whole other ballgame and yes, I am aware of it. |
spooked911 |
Sep-23-11 06:03 PM |
#260 |
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say what? |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-23-11 07:07 PM |
#261 |
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"but every time I've looked at the official calculations of the "collapses", I see fatal weaknesses" |
zappaman |
Sep-23-11 09:43 PM |
#262 |
| -
what happened to the towers is a very complex problem if you don't believe in demolition |
spooked911 |
Sep-24-11 10:23 AM |
#266 |
| -
sort of like "God did it"? |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-24-11 09:30 PM |
#267 |
| -
Do you agree that floor bowing due to truss failure is the start of the collapse sequence? |
spooked911 |
Sep-25-11 08:56 PM |
#286 |
| -
one could actually refer to the collapse sequence |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-26-11 06:06 AM |
#287 |
| -
What? |
spooked911 |
Sep-26-11 11:39 AM |
#290 |
| -
the columns were bowing because sagging floors were pulling them in |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-26-11 12:18 PM |
#291 |
| -
Semantic issue? Really? |
spooked911 |
Sep-27-11 08:39 AM |
#292 |
| -
yes, really |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-27-11 10:16 AM |
#293 |
| -
my point (and I do have one) |
spooked911 |
Sep-28-11 12:38 PM |
#297 |
| -
"the official story revolves around" |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-30-11 05:49 AM |
#304 |
| -
Bazant and Verdure model |
spooked911 |
Sep-29-11 11:47 AM |
#298 |
| -
this isn't the "Bazant and Verdure model" |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-29-11 12:53 PM |
#299 |
| -
Gimme a break |
spooked911 |
Sep-29-11 09:52 PM |
#300 |
| -
I'm "nitpicking" because I think you are wrong |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-30-11 05:35 AM |
#303 |
| -
As much "fun" as it is going back and forth with you on this, |
spooked911 |
Sep-30-11 05:24 PM |
#305 |
| -
"Mainstream engineers".... |
terrafirma |
Sep-30-11 05:39 PM |
#306 |
| -
I go with A. |
zappaman |
Sep-30-11 05:42 PM |
#307 |
| -
Occam's Razor |
terrafirma |
Sep-30-11 05:50 PM |
#308 |
| -
the truth movement isn't so fringe, and more... |
spooked911 |
Oct-01-11 11:17 AM |
#309 |
| -
I'm impressed |
terrafirma |
Oct-01-11 12:07 PM |
#310 |
| -
it's sad, really |
spooked911 |
Oct-02-11 07:39 AM |
#316 |
| -
Nice try |
terrafirma |
Oct-02-11 07:49 AM |
#317 |
| -
and I'm sure you should have no problem using google to either find a supporting article or |
spooked911 |
Oct-02-11 04:01 PM |
#319 |
| -
So you have nothing to back your assertion up... |
terrafirma |
Oct-02-11 04:26 PM |
#321 |
| -
Is there a book out there... |
terrafirma |
Oct-02-11 09:49 PM |
#326 |
| -
ooh, there go the goalposts again |
OnTheOtherHand |
Oct-02-11 05:56 PM |
#323 |
| -
Unbelievable |
zappaman |
Oct-01-11 12:18 PM |
#311 |
| -
you have barely tried to make your points |
OnTheOtherHand |
Oct-01-11 10:46 PM |
#312 |
| -
But... |
terrafirma |
Oct-02-11 06:00 AM |
#313 |
| -
I have a "word argument", I'm sorry I don't have the time to put it into a "mathematical argument" |
spooked911 |
Oct-02-11 07:23 AM |
#314 |
| -
Don't have the time? |
terrafirma |
Oct-02-11 07:32 AM |
#315 |
| -
terrafirma got it in one |
OnTheOtherHand |
Oct-02-11 08:01 AM |
#318 |
| -
"terrafirma got it in one"-- not sure what that means |
spooked911 |
Oct-02-11 04:06 PM |
#320 |
| -
With what's at stake... |
terrafirma |
Oct-02-11 04:28 PM |
#322 |
| -
yeah |
OnTheOtherHand |
Oct-02-11 08:26 PM |
#325 |
| -
because there is an obvious counterargument |
OnTheOtherHand |
Oct-02-11 08:23 PM |
#324 |
| -
Actually, I wasn't talking about the *distribution* of the downward force |
spooked911 |
Oct-03-11 12:03 PM |
#327 |
| -
indeed you weren't |
OnTheOtherHand |
Oct-03-11 12:32 PM |
#328 |
| -
alternatives |
spooked911 |
Oct-04-11 06:30 AM |
#329 |
| -
well, yes, it probably would take you quite a while |
OnTheOtherHand |
Oct-04-11 10:57 AM |
#330 |
| -
So-- |
spooked911 |
Oct-04-11 03:29 PM |
#331 |
| -
mmmmmm |
OnTheOtherHand |
Oct-05-11 06:04 AM |
#332 |
| -
The good news is that after 300+ posts, we are finally communicating somewhat more directly-- |
spooked911 |
Oct-05-11 07:41 AM |
#333 |
| -
wow |
OnTheOtherHand |
Oct-05-11 08:44 AM |
#334 |
| -
sorry if I misinterpreted you, but I thought you said |
spooked911 |
Oct-05-11 02:27 PM |
#335 |
| -
"some people can't seem to recognize the conflict of interest that most professional engineers have |
zappaman |
Oct-05-11 02:54 PM |
#336 |
| -
Not bullshit |
spooked911 |
Oct-06-11 08:00 PM |
#345 |
| -
? |
OnTheOtherHand |
Oct-05-11 03:59 PM |
#337 |
| -
I gave the conflicts in an earlier post. |
spooked911 |
Oct-06-11 08:02 PM |
#346 |
| -
you "gave the conflicts in an earlier post"? |
OnTheOtherHand |
Oct-06-11 09:36 PM |
#347 |
| -
the conflicts are in post 309 |
spooked911 |
Oct-07-11 06:52 AM |
#353 |
| -
it was already pointed out that you didn't support your assertions |
OnTheOtherHand |
Oct-07-11 10:03 AM |
#354 |
| -
the points are based on logic and do not need sourcing |
spooked911 |
Oct-07-11 06:09 PM |
#355 |
| -
that's a pretty loose construction of "logic" |
OnTheOtherHand |
Oct-07-11 06:33 PM |
#359 |
| -
No I don't understand the non-demolition explanation of how WTC 7 came down at free-fall speed |
spooked911 |
Oct-07-11 08:01 PM |
#361 |
| -
I think you will just get the NIST |
deconstruct911 |
Oct-07-11 08:14 PM |
#363 |
| -
neither of them explained how the tower could go down at free-fall speed |
spooked911 |
Oct-08-11 12:18 PM |
#371 |
| -
except they didn't. Period. |
zappaman |
Oct-08-11 01:07 PM |
#374 |
| -
I agree. They didn't explain the fre-fall of WTC7 and neither did that link. |
spooked911 |
Oct-08-11 04:38 PM |
#380 |
| -
no, you wouldn't |
OnTheOtherHand |
Oct-08-11 07:26 AM |
#368 |
| -
for the record, it IS free-fall, once the main body starts falling |
spooked911 |
Oct-08-11 12:17 PM |
#370 |
| -
for the record--you have no idea what you are talking about....again. |
zappaman |
Oct-08-11 01:08 PM |
#375 |
| -
well, I think we were supposedly focusing on WTC 7 right here |
OnTheOtherHand |
Oct-08-11 04:05 PM |
#378 |
| -
wow, thanks, Joe Clueless |
spooked911 |
Oct-08-11 04:55 PM |
#383 |
| -
WTC 7 mostly didn't go down at free-fall |
OnTheOtherHand |
Oct-08-11 05:02 PM |
#384 |
| -
the reason for giving a link that had nothing to do with WTC7? |
spooked911 |
Oct-08-11 08:11 PM |
#390 |
| -
no, he probably wasn't paying much attention |
OnTheOtherHand |
Oct-09-11 05:50 AM |
#393 |
| -
for the record, you're flat out wrong on both points |
OnTheOtherHand |
Oct-08-11 04:03 PM |
#377 |
| -
what are the "both points"? You conceded the facade falls approximately at free-fall speed. |
spooked911 |
Oct-08-11 05:15 PM |
#386 |
| -
bullshit |
OnTheOtherHand |
Oct-08-11 05:23 PM |
#387 |
| -
????????????????? |
spooked911 |
Oct-08-11 08:14 PM |
#391 |
| -
from NIST: |
spooked911 |
Oct-08-11 08:18 PM |
#392 |
| -
at least you found the FAQ, but your "fix" is broken |
OnTheOtherHand |
Oct-09-11 06:09 AM |
#394 |
| -
I saw that quote |
spooked911 |
Oct-09-11 04:49 PM |
#396 |
| -
well, it's the same old pattern on your part |
OnTheOtherHand |
Oct-09-11 05:55 PM |
#397 |
| -
"Pretty obvious, if you think about it." |
zappaman |
Oct-09-11 07:15 PM |
#398 |
| -
Pretty obvious that you have some cognitive dissonance going on |
spooked911 |
Oct-10-11 09:22 AM |
#399 |
| -
actually not |
OnTheOtherHand |
Oct-10-11 04:25 PM |
#400 |
| -
the bottom line is that WTC7 went down at the same speed or even faster than known |
spooked911 |
Oct-10-11 08:13 PM |
#415 |
| -
Speaking of precedents... |
terrafirma |
Oct-10-11 08:37 PM |
#416 |
| -
it's sort of hilarious that you link to that, actually |
OnTheOtherHand |
Oct-11-11 05:06 AM |
#418 |
| -
It's ALL such a mystery isn't it? |
spooked911 |
Oct-11-11 08:58 PM |
#420 |
| -
Your sarcasm is noted. |
terrafirma |
Oct-11-11 09:18 PM |
#421 |
| -
"why does Spooked911 think such silly things?" |
zappaman |
Oct-11-11 09:38 PM |
#422 |
| -
your response looks like a surrender to me |
OnTheOtherHand |
Oct-12-11 06:20 AM |
#423 |
| -
It's a bit of a surrender, yes, in terms of trying to convince you |
spooked911 |
Oct-12-11 10:04 AM |
#424 |
| -
I'll await your physics, but the following is odd: |
OnTheOtherHand |
Oct-12-11 11:41 AM |
#426 |
| -
every article or fact that spooked does not agree with is an "intel op" |
zappaman |
Oct-12-11 01:22 PM |
#427 |
| -
depends, but in this case it is fairly clear that it is an op |
spooked911 |
Oct-12-11 07:24 PM |
#428 |
| -
Oops |
zappaman |
Oct-09-11 11:15 AM |
#395 |
| -
bullshit |
OnTheOtherHand |
Oct-08-11 05:23 PM |
#388 |
| -
hey, I think this is my first time with this glitch |
OnTheOtherHand |
Oct-08-11 06:43 PM |
#389 |
| -
fwiw, this thread here has two different people saying that engineers are |
spooked911 |
Oct-07-11 06:22 PM |
#356 |
| -
Well then by your reasoning |
terrafirma |
Oct-07-11 07:28 PM |
#360 |
| -
It's really funny how hysterically clueless you are about my argument about engineers-- |
spooked911 |
Oct-07-11 08:05 PM |
#362 |
| -
It's funny you think you're argument about engineers |
terrafirma |
Oct-07-11 08:30 PM |
#364 |
| -
are you at all familiar with what whistleblowers have to go through? |
spooked911 |
Oct-08-11 12:14 PM |
#369 |
| -
Actually, yes. |
AZCat |
Oct-08-11 12:58 PM |
#372 |
| -
Great! |
spooked911 |
Oct-08-11 04:44 PM |
#382 |
| -
Being lectured on the "grown-up" world |
terrafirma |
Oct-08-11 03:46 PM |
#376 |
| -
No, that's not what I am saying. |
spooked911 |
Oct-08-11 04:40 PM |
#381 |
| -
No? |
terrafirma |
Oct-08-11 05:11 PM |
#385 |
| -
Wow - that evidence is overwhelming! |
AZCat |
Oct-08-11 12:59 PM |
#373 |
| -
damn, this is annoying |
OnTheOtherHand |
Oct-08-11 04:32 PM |
#379 |
| -
What conflict of interest??? |
terrafirma |
Oct-05-11 04:28 PM |
#338 |
| -
Nothing so sinister |
spooked911 |
Oct-06-11 07:56 PM |
#344 |
| -
So... |
terrafirma |
Oct-06-11 09:38 PM |
#348 |
| -
Oh my fucking god! |
AZCat |
Oct-05-11 09:53 PM |
#339 |
| -
Oh please, |
ocpagu |
Oct-06-11 01:01 PM |
#340 |
| -
oh, please |
zappaman |
Oct-06-11 01:46 PM |
#341 |
| -
So... |
terrafirma |
Oct-06-11 05:37 PM |
#342 |
| -
I have answered his questions. For years. |
AZCat |
Oct-06-11 10:09 PM |
#350 |
| -
Really, sorry |
spooked911 |
Oct-06-11 07:52 PM |
#343 |
| -
No, of course you can't. |
AZCat |
Oct-06-11 10:06 PM |
#349 |
| -
as if you cared about the truth |
spooked911 |
Oct-07-11 06:28 PM |
#358 |
| -
I care more about the truth than you do (at least in my opinion). |
AZCat |
Oct-07-11 11:29 PM |
#366 |
| -
as if you cared about the truth |
zappaman |
Oct-08-11 12:24 AM |
#367 |
| -
you don't seem to give a shit about any facts or information |
zappaman |
Oct-06-11 11:28 PM |
#351 |
| -
ha ha |
spooked911 |
Oct-07-11 06:25 PM |
#357 |
| -
Truly an embarassment. n/t |
zappaman |
Oct-07-11 10:09 PM |
#365 |
| -
Don't have the time..? |
KDLarsen |
Oct-07-11 12:17 AM |
#352 |
| -
shall we talk about your new "partial conservation of velocity" law? |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-24-11 07:32 AM |
#263 |
| -
your points about velocity versus momentum and increasing mass are perfectly valid |
spooked911 |
Sep-24-11 10:13 AM |
#265 |
| -
that's classy, but also confusing |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-25-11 09:33 AM |
#283 |
| -
I confess that I was under undue influence from Wood |
spooked911 |
Sep-25-11 08:53 PM |
#285 |
| -
assuming what you intend to prove is just a bad idea |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-26-11 07:14 AM |
#288 |
| -
It's actually very easy to poke holes in models. |
spooked911 |
Sep-26-11 10:50 AM |
#289 |
| -
I'm pretty sure the flaws in Wood's billiard ball model were pointed out here... |
AZCat |
Sep-27-11 08:23 PM |
#296 |
| -
Deleted message |
Name removed |
Sep-25-11 06:07 AM |
#279 |
| -
Do you have a video that shows the top section of either building out surviving the lower section? |
cpwm17 |
Sep-22-11 03:55 PM |
#244 |
| -
the 30 story top of WTC2 disappeared pretty quickly |
spooked911 |
Sep-22-11 09:20 PM |
#247 |
| -
nonsense |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-22-11 09:42 PM |
#248 |
| -
Newton's Third Law would apply in the collision of the top and bottom sections |
cpwm17 |
Sep-20-11 09:45 PM |
#231 |
| -
that seems about right |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-21-11 06:37 AM |
#232 |
| -
Yes, that seems to be what he thinks |
cpwm17 |
Sep-21-11 03:22 PM |
#236 |
| -
one thing I argued with myself about wading into... |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-21-11 04:30 PM |
#237 |
| -
I'm not sure of everything you mean |
cpwm17 |
Sep-22-11 05:40 PM |
#245 |
| -
ah, well... |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-22-11 07:06 PM |
#246 |
| -
Perhaps for the fun of it, I'll study this later |
cpwm17 |
Sep-23-11 12:49 AM |
#251 |
| -
I see you have the right idea here |
spooked911 |
Sep-22-11 10:32 PM |
#250 |
| -
another, quite perverse example of moving the goalposts |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-23-11 07:00 AM |
#253 |
| -
I did state them |
spooked911 |
Sep-23-11 08:24 AM |
#254 |
| -
or NOTHING you write makes any sense |
zappaman |
Sep-23-11 01:30 PM |
#256 |
| -
that's BS |
spooked911 |
Sep-23-11 02:15 PM |
#257 |
| -
not really |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-23-11 04:01 PM |
#258 |
| -
uh huh |
spooked911 |
Sep-24-11 08:34 AM |
#264 |
| -
technical discussion |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-24-11 09:34 PM |
#268 |
| -
Yes, those are the general concepts, except I think it is debateable about how |
spooked911 |
Sep-21-11 07:43 AM |
#233 |
| -
FYI, here's a 50 ton press. It's about the size of a doorway. |
Flatulo |
Sep-14-11 06:04 AM |
#79 |
| -
thanks |
spooked911 |
Oct-12-11 10:06 AM |
#425 |
| -
Mini-nukes!!! n/t |
zappaman |
Sep-11-11 10:28 PM |
#31 |
| -
I've seen this accusation so many times |
Ohio Joe |
Sep-12-11 05:02 PM |
#50 |
| -
I thought you believed in thermite |
jberryhill |
Sep-13-11 10:17 AM |
#61 |
| -
It is not the responders in this forum that are important |
hang a left |
Sep-14-11 03:05 PM |
#83 |
| -
+1 --- |
defendandprotect |
Sep-25-11 06:08 AM |
#280 |
| -
Deleted message |
Name removed |
Sep-25-11 05:50 AM |
#273 |
| -
Awesome... |
SidDithers |
Sep-11-11 07:33 PM |
#23 |
| -
Thanks Spooked |
LARED |
Sep-11-11 09:32 PM |
#28 |
| -
+1 |
zappaman |
Sep-12-11 12:39 PM |
#44 |
| -
Sometimes I do not understand you Spooked |
Ohio Joe |
Sep-12-11 03:41 PM |
#48 |
| -
all valid points, but... |
zappaman |
Sep-12-11 05:59 PM |
#51 |
| -
I've addressed all these issues repeatedly over the years |
spooked911 |
Sep-13-11 08:13 AM |
#59 |
| -
Mini-nukes! |
zappaman |
Sep-13-11 12:30 PM |
#64 |
| -
If you see no point in presenting your arguments, why post at all? |
Ohio Joe |
Sep-13-11 05:05 PM |
#68 |
| -
Mini-nukes! |
zappaman |
Sep-13-11 05:07 PM |
#69 |
| -
Just suppose --for the sake of argument-- that the 9/11 operation involved |
spooked911 |
Sep-13-11 06:00 PM |
#70 |
| -
OK, lets say it was... |
Ohio Joe |
Sep-13-11 07:38 PM |
#71 |
| -
you are making it way too complicated |
spooked911 |
Sep-13-11 09:07 PM |
#72 |
| -
You are ignoring things |
Ohio Joe |
Sep-13-11 09:51 PM |
#74 |
| -
Really. |
spooked911 |
Sep-14-11 06:37 PM |
#123 |
| -
What about the folks |
terrafirma |
Sep-14-11 10:23 PM |
#139 |
| -
I already did |
spooked911 |
Sep-15-11 06:59 AM |
#175 |
| -
Paid actors? |
terrafirma |
Sep-15-11 08:56 AM |
#177 |
| -
so you know some people who saw what exactly? |
spooked911 |
Sep-15-11 08:28 PM |
#181 |
| -
Not really in the habit |
terrafirma |
Sep-15-11 08:53 PM |
#182 |
| -
SO typical |
spooked911 |
Sep-16-11 06:35 AM |
#184 |
| -
For starters... |
terrafirma |
Sep-16-11 09:43 AM |
#186 |
| -
I wasn't expecting you to blindly give me their email addresses and names, |
spooked911 |
Sep-16-11 08:13 PM |
#189 |
| -
how the hell would knowing the vantage point |
zappaman |
Sep-16-11 09:22 PM |
#190 |
| -
What other kind of communication is there? |
terrafirma |
Sep-17-11 05:41 AM |
#191 |
| -
I missed that address, could you post in response to this, please? |
spooked911 |
Sep-17-11 10:03 AM |
#194 |
| -
Oh what an email that would be... |
terrafirma |
Sep-17-11 10:25 AM |
#195 |
| -
who knows, maybe they would have a good sense of humor about it-- |
spooked911 |
Sep-17-11 11:13 AM |
#197 |
| -
Yeah. |
terrafirma |
Sep-17-11 03:00 PM |
#204 |
| -
the Charlie Veitch scenario |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-17-11 03:34 PM |
#207 |
| -
"maybe they would have a good sense of humor about it" |
zappaman |
Sep-17-11 03:19 PM |
#205 |
| -
"Maybe I would be convinced by them." |
zappaman |
Sep-16-11 12:51 PM |
#187 |
| -
people all over NYC were speaking out quite volubly about what they saw |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-15-11 10:18 AM |
#179 |
| -
spooked, had you ever visited NYC while the Towers were there? |
OnTheOtherHand |
Sep-14-11 05:16 AM |
#77 |
| -
Yes, I had visited NYC when the towers were there, and I went to the top of WTC2 in the mid-80s |
spooked911 |
Sep-14-11 06:31 PM |
#120 |
| -
garbage |
zappaman |
Sep-14-11 06:55 PM |
#131 |
| -
Question about the black boxes and your general stream of thought... |
terrafirma |
Sep-15-11 07:42 PM |
#180 |
| -
my reasoning is that the videos and "witnesses" "proved" planes at the WTC |
spooked911 |
Sep-17-11 10:00 AM |
#193 |
| -
Spooked -- Are there any INSURANCE records on the airlines being reimbursed for the planes lost ??? |
defendandprotect |
Sep-25-11 06:12 AM |
#281 |
| -
AIG |
deconstruct911 |
Sep-29-11 10:18 PM |
#301 |
| -
Back kind late on this -- but THANK YOU for the info ... was interested in |
defendandprotect |
Oct-10-11 05:46 PM |
#402 |
| -
Yea probably the planes but maybe the industry also.... |
deconstruct911 |
Oct-10-11 06:20 PM |
#404 |
| -
Actually it would be the planes... |
deconstruct911 |
Oct-10-11 06:29 PM |
#405 |
| -
How do you mean that ? |
defendandprotect |
Oct-10-11 06:41 PM |
#407 |
| -
Yea I see what you mean |
deconstruct911 |
Oct-10-11 06:43 PM |
#408 |
| -
Right --- convenient -- if a terrorist attack the public pays so no questions really |
defendandprotect |
Oct-10-11 06:49 PM |
#409 |
| -
GW is also interesting for them |
deconstruct911 |
Oct-10-11 06:54 PM |
#410 |
| -
Wow -- Had no idea --- and I bet you very few taxpayers know -- !!! |
defendandprotect |
Oct-10-11 07:04 PM |
#413 |
| -
Yas exactly |
deconstruct911 |
Oct-10-11 06:34 PM |
#406 |
| -
What's "WKJO"? |
defendandprotect |
Oct-10-11 06:59 PM |
#411 |
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just short for who killed john o neil. nt |
deconstruct911 |
Oct-10-11 07:00 PM |
#412 |
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So -- after 10 years .... |
defendandprotect |
Oct-10-11 07:10 PM |
#414 |
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Not really for a long time... |
deconstruct911 |
Oct-11-11 05:17 PM |
#419 |
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Here: |
deconstruct911 |
Sep-29-11 10:26 PM |
#302 |
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Thanks again for the info -- |
defendandprotect |
Oct-10-11 05:55 PM |
#403 |
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wow |
zappaman |
Sep-13-11 10:57 PM |
#75 |
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I don't care where you lived |
hang a left |
Sep-14-11 03:14 PM |
#87 |
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LOL! |
zappaman |
Sep-14-11 03:53 PM |
#94 |
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You find the subject amusing? There were people in those buildings. |
hang a left |
Sep-14-11 04:34 PM |
#97 |
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Thats nice |
Ohio Joe |
Sep-14-11 05:11 PM |
#104 |
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No, Military-grade explosives |
hang a left |
Sep-14-11 05:32 PM |
#107 |
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Shame on me for being a tool? |
Ohio Joe |
Sep-14-11 05:52 PM |
#111 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Sep-14-11 06:15 PM |
#114 |
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I am both a tool and a traitor? |
Ohio Joe |
Sep-14-11 06:29 PM |
#118 |
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::Head hits desk:: |
Flatulo |
Sep-14-11 03:27 PM |
#89 |
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God Bless Spooked911 And All Who Sail In Her! |
jberryhill |
Sep-12-11 06:18 PM |
#52 |
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Ow, my back hurts when I laugh. |
uppityperson |
Sep-12-11 08:01 PM |
#55 |
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Mea Culpa - just realized a major error... |
Flatulo |
Sep-14-11 11:06 PM |
#141 |
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# 10 -- Since 11-22/63 -- we've had many events piled up -- |
defendandprotect |
Sep-25-11 06:30 AM |
#282 |
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same old tired bullshit |
zappaman |
Sep-25-11 10:43 AM |
#284 |
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It not often one gets to be the 401th post.. Thanks Spooked nt |
LARED |
Oct-10-11 05:38 PM |
#401 |
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"the only way 9/11 would have been more obvious inside job is if the official death toll were 3,333" |
zappaman |
Oct-10-11 09:00 PM |
#417 |
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hi Zap |
Larry L. Burks |
Oct-14-11 11:50 AM |
#429 |
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