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Thu May-19-11 09:21 AM
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| 79. That says more about their opinion of America than of the alleged perp. n/t |
| -57% of people polled in France think the IMF guy is a victim of a conspiracy. |
Prometheus Bound |
May-18-11 08:43 PM |
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The thing is, it can be both. |
EFerrari |
May-18-11 08:44 PM |
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Right, that makes sense, but that's not the conspiracy they're referring to. |
Prometheus Bound |
May-18-11 08:46 PM |
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That's interesting. |
EFerrari |
May-18-11 08:48 PM |
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and in the scenario of both guilt and set up, is she a victim or conspirator. because in the process |
seabeyond |
May-18-11 08:51 PM |
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No one in DSK's league gets arrested |
Kaleko |
May-18-11 08:55 PM |
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Yeah, regardless of their guilt. Agreed. n/t |
EFerrari |
May-18-11 08:57 PM |
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I suspect that the cops didn't know who he was when he was arrested.. |
Fumesucker |
May-18-11 08:58 PM |
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i agree. i heard neither cops nor maid knew. why we got it as is. i like. nt |
seabeyond |
May-18-11 08:59 PM |
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That may well be true. |
EFerrari |
May-18-11 09:00 PM |
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which would lead one to believe, cops were pretty certain a rape happened. nt |
seabeyond |
May-18-11 09:01 PM |
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Once the media got hold of it, which took about a half hour or so, the freak show was on.. |
Fumesucker |
May-18-11 09:03 PM |
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I don't know. If they can sell us Iraq, they can sell us anything. |
EFerrari |
May-18-11 09:11 PM |
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You know what this really reminds me of... |
Cid_B |
May-19-11 07:59 AM |
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There's no need to drag in a pet issue. |
EFerrari |
May-19-11 08:28 AM |
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No, once the police get involved and it goes viral it's damn near impossible to stop it. |
joshcryer |
May-18-11 09:19 PM |
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I think that after 4 hours had passed they knew who he was, but I think DSK failed to sequester... |
joshcryer |
May-18-11 09:10 PM |
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the hotel didn't know who was in the room & the cops didn't ask? doubtful. |
Hannah Bell |
May-18-11 09:45 PM |
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so they give the mans name. doesnt mean the "know who he is". nt |
seabeyond |
May-18-11 09:48 PM |
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Domee-neek? What is that, a girl's name? |
JackRiddler |
Jun-30-11 04:02 PM |
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Most of us political junkies here on DU had no idea who he was.. |
Fumesucker |
May-18-11 10:14 PM |
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I knew of DSK but he was very under the radar. |
joshcryer |
May-18-11 10:41 PM |
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Few in DSKs league is as blatant with their transgressions. See Joran van der Sloot. |
joshcryer |
May-18-11 09:08 PM |
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How do you know there are not others that are getting away with it? |
Fumesucker |
May-18-11 09:17 PM |
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There very likely are, but they almost always don't allow the police to get involved. |
joshcryer |
May-18-11 09:21 PM |
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Didn't the president of Isreal also go to jail for rape? |
AngryAmish |
May-19-11 02:21 PM |
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Your assumption is that the maid or the cops who showed up for the call knew Mr. Bankster's "league" |
JackRiddler |
Jun-30-11 04:01 PM |
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How would his "elite band of brothers" have handled it? |
joshcryer |
May-18-11 09:14 PM |
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Up until very recently we had never detected planets just floating in space.. |
Fumesucker |
May-18-11 09:23 PM |
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Well, if you assume he's innocent then there's no reason for anyone to try a coverup. |
joshcryer |
May-18-11 09:41 PM |
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Yeah, they can go down but we all know it's extremely rare.. |
Fumesucker |
May-18-11 09:49 PM |
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And the rarety of it is not evidence in and of itself of others refusing to help. |
joshcryer |
May-18-11 10:07 PM |
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It's my suspicion that it all just went down so quickly that there was no time for shenanigans.. |
Fumesucker |
May-18-11 10:11 PM |
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I believe he could've kept her there and tried something. |
joshcryer |
May-18-11 10:39 PM |
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Wow, so much for the BS about the French being so enlightened and progressive. |
Odin2005 |
May-18-11 08:46 PM |
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They are in some ways |
nadinbrzezinski |
May-18-11 08:48 PM |
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or when it comes to molestation or rape of a woman or girl.... u.s. so puritanical |
seabeyond |
May-18-11 08:50 PM |
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How would we feel if our men in uniform were arrested for torture in Iraq, |
Eddie Haskell |
May-18-11 09:18 PM |
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In this case would you prefer a shank in this man's side? |
nadinbrzezinski |
May-18-11 09:38 PM |
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rapists go to jail. are you suggesting we should not prosecute a rapist? they dont deserve |
seabeyond |
May-18-11 09:50 PM |
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Huh? |
Eddie Haskell |
May-18-11 10:23 PM |
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no eddie, you post is absurd suggesting a rapist should not be imprisoned. nt |
seabeyond |
May-18-11 10:25 PM |
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I just explained my post. Are you calling me a liar? |
Eddie Haskell |
May-18-11 10:54 PM |
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I think you make a good point. |
Prometheus Bound |
May-18-11 11:08 PM |
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It's more than that. The French knew that Sarkozy was |
sabrina 1 |
May-19-11 12:04 AM |
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then this supposed rape victim is lying. i hope they charge her and fry her ass for daring |
seabeyond |
May-19-11 07:32 AM |
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You know what I hope? I hope she was not raped, because it is |
sabrina 1 |
May-19-11 02:16 PM |
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wow. nt |
seabeyond |
May-19-11 02:23 PM |
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Yes, 'wow', let's hope she was not raped, for her sake. n/t |
sabrina 1 |
May-19-11 02:26 PM |
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please stop. nt |
seabeyond |
May-19-11 02:29 PM |
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Stop wishing that a woman was not raped? |
sabrina 1 |
May-19-11 02:35 PM |
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you know what game you are playing. it is sick. ya, wouldnt it be nice not to have rape |
seabeyond |
May-19-11 02:38 PM |
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If, like you, I were to ascribe false motives to people I do not know, |
sabrina 1 |
May-19-11 03:01 PM |
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he was indicted by grand jury. nt |
seabeyond |
May-19-11 03:02 PM |
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Yes, of course he was. GJ only hear from the prosecutors and generally |
sabrina 1 |
May-19-11 03:15 PM |
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they also look at evidence, like where she spat out the remaining from force bj, onto carpet. nt |
seabeyond |
May-19-11 04:24 PM |
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Yes, they do. But they do not look at contradictory or exculpatory evidence. |
sabrina 1 |
May-19-11 04:42 PM |
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you had left out evidence. that is a large part of GJ job. to look at evidence. nt |
seabeyond |
May-19-11 05:12 PM |
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Yes, it is, but since the only evidence they see is from the |
sabrina 1 |
May-19-11 05:27 PM |
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the evidence that is gathered by the police. like spittin out the sperm that was in her mouth |
seabeyond |
May-19-11 05:58 PM |
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The defense will receive a transcript of the proceedings. |
sabrina 1 |
May-19-11 08:01 PM |
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police confirmed several pieces physical evidence, including swath of carpet maid spat out forced bj |
seabeyond |
May-19-11 08:19 PM |
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What are you talking about?? Of course they saw some evidence |
sabrina 1 |
May-19-11 09:37 PM |
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May-19-11 09:40 PM |
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May-19-11 11:47 PM |
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i think you pegged it. nt |
seabeyond |
May-18-11 08:49 PM |
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They've always been pretty ok with rape |
WatsonT |
May-19-11 08:28 AM |
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Thanks for the French-phobia...tar a whole nation... |
joeybee12 |
May-19-11 04:27 PM |
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Tar a nation using the expressed opinions of the people of that nation |
WatsonT |
May-19-11 05:11 PM |
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Would you like me to direct you to the 9.11 forum? |
nadinbrzezinski |
May-18-11 08:46 PM |
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was there any to consider the victim, her pain, rape? nt |
seabeyond |
May-18-11 08:48 PM |
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I've found that people from France are extremely paranoid |
Drale |
May-18-11 08:50 PM |
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If all you knew about America came exclusively from the media.. |
Fumesucker |
May-18-11 08:55 PM |
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I have to laugh--my ex is from India. I thought he was kidding |
blondeatlast |
May-18-11 11:46 PM |
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Yes, that's a small sample. n/t |
EFerrari |
May-18-11 09:00 PM |
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The lack of evidence of a conspiracy |
Recovered Repug |
May-18-11 09:04 PM |
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No link, and I don't know if it's true ... |
Eddie Haskell |
May-18-11 09:06 PM |
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Thanks, Eddie Haskell! This time-line needs looking into. |
Peace Patriot |
May-18-11 11:04 PM |
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Agreed on all counts. |
Kaleko |
May-18-11 11:46 PM |
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Interesting read |
Eddie Haskell |
May-18-11 11:53 PM |
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I agree, it's worth watching. |
Eddie Haskell |
May-18-11 11:48 PM |
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This is dead wrong: 'Sarkozy activist "knew about the crime before it happened.' |
Prometheus Bound |
May-19-11 02:59 PM |
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Thank you for a very rational post, as always, Peace Patriot! |
sabrina 1 |
May-19-11 04:09 PM |
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"He is finished either way" |
Art_from_Ark |
May-20-11 01:50 AM |
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Yes, it is an old political weapon and why throw it away, it |
sabrina 1 |
May-20-11 02:50 AM |
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They also think Jerry Lewis is the greatest |
somone |
May-18-11 09:11 PM |
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Slamming the French is so 2001. |
EFerrari |
May-18-11 09:13 PM |
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2003, not 2001 |
JVS |
May-18-11 11:05 PM |
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I'd bet more than 30 Percent of DU'ers think the same thing. |
cherokeeprogressive |
May-18-11 09:13 PM |
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can't be. one of du's resident experts say the french are glad to see him |
Hannah Bell |
May-18-11 09:42 PM |
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Then he walked right into it with eyes wide open. |
Kind of Blue |
May-18-11 10:04 PM |
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Thanks for info. Bizarre, ain't it? |
Peace Patriot |
May-18-11 11:33 PM |
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you are right. it is not merely womanizing. he has assaulted other women |
seabeyond |
May-18-11 11:44 PM |
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I like the part where you always manage to hold jury trials over DU nt |
AlabamaLibrul |
May-20-11 03:25 AM |
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"...self-destruct MEETS set-up." |
Kind of Blue |
May-19-11 07:14 AM |
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Except it was no secret where he was going, according to Mother Jones |
Nevernose |
May-19-11 12:05 AM |
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I'm not quite understanding your response. |
Kind of Blue |
May-19-11 07:22 AM |
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There are unusual aspects to the story |
Nevernose |
May-19-11 08:00 AM |
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the man has been getting away with it for years. and look at the people willing to allow him |
seabeyond |
May-19-11 08:34 AM |
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Gotcha'. |
Kind of Blue |
May-19-11 09:01 AM |
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he didn't check out of the hotel |
TorchTheWitch |
May-19-11 09:48 PM |
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Yes, he did check out of the hotel. And he spoke to the desk |
sabrina 1 |
May-20-11 07:28 PM |
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I'm waiting for the WikiLeaks cable to appear |
OnyxCollie |
May-18-11 11:03 PM |
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Lol, I'm sure that went over a lot of heads, OnyxCollie. First thought |
sabrina 1 |
May-19-11 04:30 PM |
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And they still loved Roman Polanski despite him anally raping a 13 year old girl (nt) |
Nye Bevan |
May-18-11 11:37 PM |
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If anyone cares . . . |
Le Taz Hot |
May-19-11 07:47 AM |
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reading on msnbc, hired a hooker, was "aggressive" and she refused to go back. has another woman |
seabeyond |
May-19-11 07:50 AM |
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My thoughts too. If guilty, of all women |
Kind of Blue |
May-19-11 09:11 AM |
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Good thing the trial will be in the USA instead of France |
Freddie Stubbs |
May-19-11 07:54 AM |
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Stupidity does not recognize international boundaries |
CanonRay |
May-19-11 08:00 AM |
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What a bunch of ignorant hicks |
WatsonT |
May-19-11 08:27 AM |
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Yeah, like there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.. |
Fumesucker |
May-19-11 02:25 PM |
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Oh wait, you don't get satire |
WatsonT |
May-19-11 02:28 PM |
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Poe's law.. |
Fumesucker |
May-19-11 02:32 PM |
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If one predicates their own actions on those of others |
LanternWaste |
May-19-11 02:35 PM |
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dupe |
WatsonT |
May-19-11 02:28 PM |
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That says more about their opinion of America than of the alleged perp. n/t |
kickysnana |
May-19-11 09:21 AM |
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And if they're willing to let their hatred for the US determine their morality on such things |
WatsonT |
May-19-11 02:29 PM |
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The way people think is not based on facts or logic |
AngryAmish |
May-19-11 02:27 PM |
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Look at Assange... |
CJvR |
May-19-11 03:18 PM |
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assault of women, attempted rape is not a crime in france? nt |
seabeyond |
May-19-11 04:25 PM |
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Never know...I am always suspicious of when everyone |
name removved |
May-24-11 07:10 PM |
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Frankly, I can't help but wonder if he truly WAS set up......... |
AverageJoe90 |
Jun-30-11 03:05 AM |
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The US seemed to be in favour of that global currency idea. |
Prometheus Bound |
Jul-03-11 04:35 AM |
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