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Prometheus Bound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 08:46 PM
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3. Right, that makes sense, but that's not the conspiracy they're referring to.
I don't think.
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  -57% of people polled in France think the IMF guy is a victim of a conspiracy. Prometheus Bound  May-18-11 08:43 PM   #0 
  - The thing is, it can be both.  EFerrari   May-18-11 08:44 PM   #1 
  - Right, that makes sense, but that's not the conspiracy they're referring to.  Prometheus Bound   May-18-11 08:46 PM   #3 
  - That's interesting.  EFerrari   May-18-11 08:48 PM   #5 
  - and in the scenario of both guilt and set up, is she a victim or conspirator. because in the process  seabeyond   May-18-11 08:51 PM   #11 
  - No one in DSK's league gets arrested  Kaleko   May-18-11 08:55 PM   #13 
  - Yeah, regardless of their guilt. Agreed. n/t  EFerrari   May-18-11 08:57 PM   #14 
  - I suspect that the cops didn't know who he was when he was arrested..  Fumesucker   May-18-11 08:58 PM   #15 
  - i agree. i heard neither cops nor maid knew. why we got it as is. i like. nt  seabeyond   May-18-11 08:59 PM   #16 
  - That may well be true.  EFerrari   May-18-11 09:00 PM   #17 
  - which would lead one to believe, cops were pretty certain a rape happened. nt  seabeyond   May-18-11 09:01 PM   #19 
  - Once the media got hold of it, which took about a half hour or so, the freak show was on..  Fumesucker   May-18-11 09:03 PM   #20 
  - I don't know. If they can sell us Iraq, they can sell us anything.  EFerrari   May-18-11 09:11 PM   #26 
     - You know what this really reminds me of...  Cid_B   May-19-11 07:59 AM   #70 
        - There's no need to drag in a pet issue.  EFerrari   May-19-11 08:28 AM   #74 
  - No, once the police get involved and it goes viral it's damn near impossible to stop it.  joshcryer   May-18-11 09:19 PM   #32 
  - I think that after 4 hours had passed they knew who he was, but I think DSK failed to sequester...  joshcryer   May-18-11 09:10 PM   #24 
  - the hotel didn't know who was in the room & the cops didn't ask? doubtful.  Hannah Bell   May-18-11 09:45 PM   #38 
     - so they give the mans name. doesnt mean the "know who he is". nt  seabeyond   May-18-11 09:48 PM   #39 
     - Domee-neek? What is that, a girl's name?  JackRiddler   Jun-30-11 04:02 PM   #122 
     - Most of us political junkies here on DU had no idea who he was..  Fumesucker   May-18-11 10:14 PM   #45 
        - I knew of DSK but he was very under the radar.  joshcryer   May-18-11 10:41 PM   #49 
  - Few in DSKs league is as blatant with their transgressions. See Joran van der Sloot.  joshcryer   May-18-11 09:08 PM   #23 
  - How do you know there are not others that are getting away with it?  Fumesucker   May-18-11 09:17 PM   #30 
     - There very likely are, but they almost always don't allow the police to get involved.  joshcryer   May-18-11 09:21 PM   #33 
  - Didn't the president of Isreal also go to jail for rape?  AngryAmish   May-19-11 02:21 PM   #81 
  - Your assumption is that the maid or the cops who showed up for the call knew Mr. Bankster's "league"  JackRiddler   Jun-30-11 04:01 PM   #121 
  - How would his "elite band of brothers" have handled it?  joshcryer   May-18-11 09:14 PM   #29 
     - Up until very recently we had never detected planets just floating in space..  Fumesucker   May-18-11 09:23 PM   #34 
        - Well, if you assume he's innocent then there's no reason for anyone to try a coverup.  joshcryer   May-18-11 09:41 PM   #36 
           - Yeah, they can go down but we all know it's extremely rare..  Fumesucker   May-18-11 09:49 PM   #40 
              - And the rarety of it is not evidence in and of itself of others refusing to help.  joshcryer   May-18-11 10:07 PM   #43 
                 - It's my suspicion that it all just went down so quickly that there was no time for shenanigans..  Fumesucker   May-18-11 10:11 PM   #44 
                    - I believe he could've kept her there and tried something.  joshcryer   May-18-11 10:39 PM   #48 
  - Wow, so much for the BS about the French being so enlightened and progressive.  Odin2005   May-18-11 08:46 PM   #2 
  - They are in some ways  nadinbrzezinski   May-18-11 08:48 PM   #6 
  - or when it comes to molestation or rape of a woman or girl.... u.s. so puritanical  seabeyond   May-18-11 08:50 PM   #10 
  - How would we feel if our men in uniform were arrested for torture in Iraq,  Eddie Haskell   May-18-11 09:18 PM   #31 
     - In this case would you prefer a shank in this man's side?  nadinbrzezinski   May-18-11 09:38 PM   #35 
     - rapists go to jail. are you suggesting we should not prosecute a rapist? they dont deserve  seabeyond   May-18-11 09:50 PM   #41 
        - Huh?  Eddie Haskell   May-18-11 10:23 PM   #46 
           - no eddie, you post is absurd suggesting a rapist should not be imprisoned. nt  seabeyond   May-18-11 10:25 PM   #47 
              - I just explained my post. Are you calling me a liar?  Eddie Haskell   May-18-11 10:54 PM   #50 
                 - I think you make a good point.  Prometheus Bound   May-18-11 11:08 PM   #54 
                 - It's more than that. The French knew that Sarkozy was  sabrina 1   May-19-11 12:04 AM   #62 
                    - then this supposed rape victim is lying. i hope they charge her and fry her ass for daring  seabeyond   May-19-11 07:32 AM   #66 
                       - You know what I hope? I hope she was not raped, because it is  sabrina 1   May-19-11 02:16 PM   #80 
                          - wow. nt  seabeyond   May-19-11 02:23 PM   #82 
                             - Yes, 'wow', let's hope she was not raped, for her sake. n/t  sabrina 1   May-19-11 02:26 PM   #84 
                                - please stop. nt  seabeyond   May-19-11 02:29 PM   #88 
                                   - Stop wishing that a woman was not raped?  sabrina 1   May-19-11 02:35 PM   #91 
                                      - you know what game you are playing. it is sick. ya, wouldnt it be nice not to have rape  seabeyond   May-19-11 02:38 PM   #93 
                                         - If, like you, I were to ascribe false motives to people I do not know,  sabrina 1   May-19-11 03:01 PM   #95 
                                            - he was indicted by grand jury. nt  seabeyond   May-19-11 03:02 PM   #96 
                                               - Yes, of course he was. GJ only hear from the prosecutors and generally  sabrina 1   May-19-11 03:15 PM   #97 
                                                  - they also look at evidence, like where she spat out the remaining from force bj, onto carpet. nt  seabeyond   May-19-11 04:24 PM   #100 
                                                  - Yes, they do. But they do not look at contradictory or exculpatory evidence.  sabrina 1   May-19-11 04:42 PM   #104 
                                                  - you had left out evidence. that is a large part of GJ job. to look at evidence. nt  seabeyond   May-19-11 05:12 PM   #106 
                                                  - Yes, it is, but since the only evidence they see is from the  sabrina 1   May-19-11 05:27 PM   #107 
                                                  - the evidence that is gathered by the police. like spittin out the sperm that was in her mouth  seabeyond   May-19-11 05:58 PM   #108 
                                                  - The defense will receive a transcript of the proceedings.  sabrina 1   May-19-11 08:01 PM   #109 
                                                  - police confirmed several pieces physical evidence, including swath of carpet maid spat out forced bj  seabeyond   May-19-11 08:19 PM   #110 
                                                  - What are you talking about?? Of course they saw some evidence  sabrina 1   May-19-11 09:37 PM   #111 
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                                                  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-19-11 11:47 PM   #114 
  - i think you pegged it. nt  seabeyond   May-18-11 08:49 PM   #8 
  - They've always been pretty ok with rape  WatsonT   May-19-11 08:28 AM   #75 
     - Thanks for the French-phobia...tar a whole nation...  joeybee12   May-19-11 04:27 PM   #102 
        - Tar a nation using the expressed opinions of the people of that nation  WatsonT   May-19-11 05:11 PM   #105 
  - Would you like me to direct you to the 9.11 forum?  nadinbrzezinski   May-18-11 08:46 PM   #4 
  - was there any to consider the victim, her pain, rape? nt  seabeyond   May-18-11 08:48 PM   #7 
  - I've found that people from France are extremely paranoid  Drale   May-18-11 08:50 PM   #9 
  - If all you knew about America came exclusively from the media..  Fumesucker   May-18-11 08:55 PM   #12 
  - I have to laugh--my ex is from India. I thought he was kidding  blondeatlast   May-18-11 11:46 PM   #58 
  - Yes, that's a small sample. n/t  EFerrari   May-18-11 09:00 PM   #18 
  - The lack of evidence of a conspiracy  Recovered Repug   May-18-11 09:04 PM   #21 
  - No link, and I don't know if it's true ...  Eddie Haskell   May-18-11 09:06 PM   #22 
  - Thanks, Eddie Haskell! This time-line needs looking into.  Peace Patriot   May-18-11 11:04 PM   #52 
     - Agreed on all counts.  Kaleko   May-18-11 11:46 PM   #59 
     - Interesting read  Eddie Haskell   May-18-11 11:53 PM   #61 
     - I agree, it's worth watching.  Eddie Haskell   May-18-11 11:48 PM   #60 
     - This is dead wrong: 'Sarkozy activist "knew about the crime before it happened.'  Prometheus Bound   May-19-11 02:59 PM   #94 
     - Thank you for a very rational post, as always, Peace Patriot!  sabrina 1   May-19-11 04:09 PM   #99 
        - "He is finished either way"  Art_from_Ark   May-20-11 01:50 AM   #115 
           - Yes, it is an old political weapon and why throw it away, it  sabrina 1   May-20-11 02:50 AM   #116 
  - They also think Jerry Lewis is the greatest  somone   May-18-11 09:11 PM   #25 
  - Slamming the French is so 2001.  EFerrari   May-18-11 09:13 PM   #27 
     - 2003, not 2001  JVS   May-18-11 11:05 PM   #53 
  - I'd bet more than 30 Percent of DU'ers think the same thing.  cherokeeprogressive   May-18-11 09:13 PM   #28 
  - can't be. one of du's resident experts say the french are glad to see him  Hannah Bell   May-18-11 09:42 PM   #37 
  - Then he walked right into it with eyes wide open.  Kind of Blue   May-18-11 10:04 PM   #42 
  - Thanks for info. Bizarre, ain't it?  Peace Patriot   May-18-11 11:33 PM   #55 
  - you are right. it is not merely womanizing. he has assaulted other women  seabeyond   May-18-11 11:44 PM   #57 
  - I like the part where you always manage to hold jury trials over DU nt  AlabamaLibrul   May-20-11 03:25 AM   #117 
  - "...self-destruct MEETS set-up."  Kind of Blue   May-19-11 07:14 AM   #64 
  - Except it was no secret where he was going, according to Mother Jones  Nevernose   May-19-11 12:05 AM   #63 
     - I'm not quite understanding your response.  Kind of Blue   May-19-11 07:22 AM   #65 
     - There are unusual aspects to the story  Nevernose   May-19-11 08:00 AM   #71 
        - the man has been getting away with it for years. and look at the people willing to allow him  seabeyond   May-19-11 08:34 AM   #76 
        - Gotcha'.  Kind of Blue   May-19-11 09:01 AM   #77 
     - he didn't check out of the hotel  TorchTheWitch   May-19-11 09:48 PM   #113 
        - Yes, he did check out of the hotel. And he spoke to the desk  sabrina 1   May-20-11 07:28 PM   #118 
  - I'm waiting for the WikiLeaks cable to appear  OnyxCollie   May-18-11 11:03 PM   #51 
  - Lol, I'm sure that went over a lot of heads, OnyxCollie. First thought  sabrina 1   May-19-11 04:30 PM   #103 
  - And they still loved Roman Polanski despite him anally raping a 13 year old girl (nt)  Nye Bevan   May-18-11 11:37 PM   #56 
  - If anyone cares . . .  Le Taz Hot   May-19-11 07:47 AM   #67 
  - reading on msnbc, hired a hooker, was "aggressive" and she refused to go back. has another woman  seabeyond   May-19-11 07:50 AM   #68 
  - My thoughts too. If guilty, of all women  Kind of Blue   May-19-11 09:11 AM   #78 
  - Good thing the trial will be in the USA instead of France  Freddie Stubbs   May-19-11 07:54 AM   #69 
  - Stupidity does not recognize international boundaries  CanonRay   May-19-11 08:00 AM   #72 
  - What a bunch of ignorant hicks  WatsonT   May-19-11 08:27 AM   #73 
  - Yeah, like there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq..  Fumesucker   May-19-11 02:25 PM   #83 
     - Oh wait, you don't get satire  WatsonT   May-19-11 02:28 PM   #86 
     - Poe's law..  Fumesucker   May-19-11 02:32 PM   #90 
     - If one predicates their own actions on those of others  LanternWaste   May-19-11 02:35 PM   #92 
     - dupe  WatsonT   May-19-11 02:28 PM   #87 
  - That says more about their opinion of America than of the alleged perp. n/t  kickysnana   May-19-11 09:21 AM   #79 
  - And if they're willing to let their hatred for the US determine their morality on such things  WatsonT   May-19-11 02:29 PM   #89 
  - The way people think is not based on facts or logic  AngryAmish   May-19-11 02:27 PM   #85 
  - Look at Assange...  CJvR   May-19-11 03:18 PM   #98 
  - assault of women, attempted rape is not a crime in france? nt  seabeyond   May-19-11 04:25 PM   #101 
  - Never know...I am always suspicious of when everyone  name removved   May-24-11 07:10 PM   #119 
  - Frankly, I can't help but wonder if he truly WAS set up.........  AverageJoe90   Jun-30-11 03:05 AM   #120 
     - The US seemed to be in favour of that global currency idea.  Prometheus Bound   Jul-03-11 04:35 AM   #123 
 

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