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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-11 10:28 PM
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THIS is why some of us are saying that bin Laden has been dead for years..
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Fox News: "Bin Laden Already Dead"

Wednesday, December 26, 2001

Usama bin Laden has died a peaceful death due to an untreated lung complication, the Pakistan Observer reported, citing a Taliban leader who allegedly attended the funeral of the Al Qaeda leader.

"The Coalition troops are engaged in a mad search operation but they would never be able to fulfill their cherished goal of getting Usama alive or dead," the source said.

Bin Laden, according to the source, was suffering from a serious lung complication and succumbed to the disease in mid-December, in the vicinity of the Tora Bora mountains. The source claimed that bin Laden was laid to rest honorably in his last abode and his grave was made as per his Wahabi belief.,2933,41576,00.html

The Death of bin Ladenism
Published: July 11, 2002

Osama bin Laden is dead. The news first came from sources in Afghanistan and Pakistan almost six months ago: the fugitive died in December and was buried in the mountains of southeast Afghanistan. Pakistan's president, Pervez Musharraf, echoed the information. The remnants of Osama's gang, however, have mostly stayed silent, either to keep Osama's ghost alive or because they have no means of communication.

With an ego the size of Mount Everest, Osama bin Laden would not have, could not have, remained silent for so long if he were still alive. He always liked to take credit even for things he had nothing to do with. Would he remain silent for nine months and not trumpet his own survival?

Even if he is still in the world, bin Ladenism has left for good. Mr. bin Laden was the public face of a brand of politics that committed suicide in New York and Washington on Sept. 11, 2001, killing thousands of innocent people in the process.

What were the key elements of that politics?

The first was a cynical misinterpretation of Islam that began decades ago with such anti-Western ideologues as Maulana Maudoodi of Pakistan and Sayyid Qutb of Egypt. Although Mr. Maudoodi and Mr. Qutb were not serious thinkers, they could at least offer a coherent ideology based on a narrow reading of Islamic texts. Their ideas about Western barbarism and Muslim revival, distilled down to bin Ladenism, became mere slogans designed to incite zealots to murder.

There's absolutely nothing inflammatory or conspiratorial about it, nor is it meant to be a slam on Obama. Both of these stories, as you can see, are still up and available on the respective sites. They have never been corrected, nor retracted. If there was any conspiracy at all, it was to hide these stories to help keep the boogeyman alive, thus keeping the war machine rolling.

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  -THIS is why some of us are saying that bin Laden has been dead for years.. Ghost in the Machine  May-01-11 10:28 PM   #0 
  - Apparently he was shot..  Peacetrain   May-01-11 10:30 PM   #1 
  - We'll never know the truth. We'll only know the official spin. But the important  valerief   May-01-11 10:30 PM   #2 
  - That's what I'd like to know. We can't stand too many "new eras"  nc4bo   May-01-11 10:33 PM   #5 
  - Musharraf said he was dead years ago  Vinnie From Indy   May-01-11 10:31 PM   #3 
  - That Pakistani politician who was assassinated  EFerrari   May-01-11 10:42 PM   #18 
     - Benazir Bhutto even claimed to know who killed him.  Kurovski   May-01-11 11:00 PM   #21 
        - Thanks. I never get her name right. n/t  EFerrari   May-01-11 11:30 PM   #22 
  - I personally think he's been dead for a while.....  marmar   May-01-11 10:32 PM   #4 
  - if that's the case, why now, why Obama and not Bush.....  nc4bo   May-01-11 10:34 PM   #7 
     - The bin Ladin family are long time family friends of the Bush Crime Family. nm  rhett o rick   May-01-11 10:36 PM   #10 
     - Neocons should have no problem eating their own...  nc4bo   May-01-11 10:40 PM   #13 
     - Makes for a good distraction from some very grim economic news.  girl gone mad   May-01-11 10:42 PM   #16 
        - More than that, it will give a perspective and dividing line  nolabels   May-02-11 06:38 AM   #26 
  - K&R  leftstreet   May-01-11 10:33 PM   #6 
  - thank you Ghost, nt  wildbilln864   May-01-11 10:35 PM   #8 
  - False stories get reported all the time...  Imajika   May-01-11 10:35 PM   #9 
  - So, to be blunt, the President is lying to us right now.  brooklynite   May-01-11 10:36 PM   #11 
  - We will never know.  nc4bo   May-01-11 10:39 PM   #12 
  - wouldn't be the first...nor the last time....I dare say! n/t  jus_the_facts   May-01-11 10:41 PM   #15 
  - Not necessarily. Someone could be lying to the President n/t  leftstreet   May-01-11 10:42 PM   #17 
  - Thank you Ghost  proud2BlibKansan   May-01-11 10:40 PM   #14 
  - No Hes not.  Larry L. Burks   May-02-11 12:24 AM   #23 
  - +1  canetoad   May-02-11 01:22 AM   #24 
  - 2007: Benazir Bhutto identified Omar Sheikh as the murderer of Osama Bin Laden  seafan   May-01-11 10:48 PM   #19 
  - Such a poor memory so many have  proud2BlibKansan   May-01-11 10:52 PM   #20 
  - Thank you. n/t  rosesaylavee   May-02-11 06:11 AM   #25 
  - So the Pakistani government, military, and intelligence people that were  Ikonoklast   May-02-11 02:30 PM   #27 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-02-11 05:37 PM   #28 
  - You know who else was a veteran?  Make7   May-02-11 05:43 PM   #29 
  - Thanks Ghost, one of the few voices of sanity on the boards today. n/t  MadHound   May-02-11 05:56 PM   #30 

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