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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 08:11 AM
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424.  What have you brought, ontheotherhand?
Really, besides your opinion? Not one link. Not one quote. Not one source.

It'd be interesting to run a content analysis on these replies to measure what
independent readers understand them to mean.

Here's what you've posted on this thread (hope I didn't miss any):

82. huh?

What part of this makes it suspicious that Bush would visit Dallas? Would it be exculpatory if he hadn't?

94. FWIW I'm about to hit the road...

I imagine I'll be mostly offline until sometime on Sunday.

114. wait, so he was in Tyler, or he wasn't?

Are you positing that Bush was in Dallas for the assassination, flew to Tyler so he could call and say he was in Tyler, then flew back to Dallas in order to fly to Houston? I'm having a hard time following this.

Why would Bush bother to call the FBI just to record in government files that he was in Tyler and was headed to Dallas?*

Why would Bush volunteer -- or why would the FBI request -- information about where he had been? Wouldn't it be a lot more pertinent to record where he expected to be, in case the FBI had follow-up questions?

*Ooh, I have an idea: maybe it was a deliberate decoy, so that conspiracists decades hence could say how suspicious it was that the document existed, and the rest of us could facepalm. I mean, really, can you see how weird this looks to someone who doesn't already agree with you?

79. why should it bother more people?

Edited on Fri Mar-11-11 01:52 PM by OnTheOtherHand
So Bush, over an hour after the assassination, called the FBI and told them (inter alia) that he was headed to Dallas. Is it intrinsically suspicious for a Texas oilman to visit Dallas? I cannot tell why you expect people to be impressed by this document.

ETA: eh, I'll leave it. No shame in independently having the same question.

85. I agree with that

It would be nice if, at the end of the day, we could just shake our heads and say, "Wow, I cannot understand why you believe that, but at least you care."

I'm not saying that I know how to get there, especially with the few people whom I'm not sure actually do care. But I have little doubt about Octafish and SDuderstadt. They are, in a sense, worthy adversaries.

113. FWIW, I thought your post was great

I don't believe in giving serial smearers a free pass.

It's hard to imagine that this forum could ever become a bastion of respectful discussion. What sometimes happens is that little brush fires of respectful discussion break out. That isn't likely if we treat every interchange prima facie as another skirmish in an eternal pitched battle, but it also isn't likely if we don't show the self-respect to be annoyed when people slander us.

From a game-theoretic standpoint, it seems like some version of (in the technical sense) Tit-for-Tat is called for. I always try to be ready to treat people with the same respect they show me. Maybe a little more, because an online environment lends itself to a ratcheting of hostilities. Not a lot more, because there is just no point.

145. well, the subject/verb thing was kinda cheap

I missed the deleted post, so I actually don't know who threw fuel on this particular fire.

147. yes, and I'm not sure the preceding comment came out right, either

I'm guessing that johnnie meant to post something about questioning the conclusions of the Warren Report, not about questioning the dead witnesses. Just a goof. I think we've all had wee-hour posts come out a bit sideways. If we're going to get chippy, I say let's do it over something more interesting -- like bizarro-world accusations that you're paid to post. (But I don't think he has made any of those.)

Just my two cents, feel free to ignore. I like to confuse the hard-core conspiracists by pretending that we actually have individual minds of our own. :)

143. one unfortunate thing

Believe it or not, it's pretty common for people to express really strong and (IMHO) bizarre opinions, and then to say that they were just "asking questions."

It's the sort of behavior that can give asking questions a bad name. I think you'll find that the vast majority of posters here really have no problem with honest questions, per se. Sometimes we may have some trouble recognizing them as such.

Sometimes I think that SDuderstadt is overreacting, but then again, I remember how I felt about the first half-dozen times I tried to explain why the 2004 exit polls didn't provide much evidence that Kerry had won. Some people were so sure they knew otherwise, and that anyone who disagreed with them must be evil, and that somehow they exemplified openmindedness and critical thinking. Some of them said absolutely brutal things about me and close friends; I tried not to respond in kind.

Lots of people really only heard one side of that issue, and to this day they just assume that anyone with a clue knows that Kerry won. They tend to say things that remind me of those earlier fights, and sometimes I jump to the conclusion that they are just hell-bent on trashing anyone who disagrees, when actually they just didn't really know that there could be any possible basis for disagreement.

Part of the problem is that some outright misinformation became widely accepted. For instance, lots of people "learned" that the exit polls had always been "uncannily accurate" until 2004, or maybe until 2000. That simply isn't true. It's pretty useful to know that that simply isn't true. But after the first half dozen flame wars about it, you might say I learned to lose my temper in advance. It has nothing to do with trying to repress questions about voting machines and election results -- and, yes, I get really ticked off when people claim it does.

I do try to refrain from gratuitously pushing other people's buttons, but I'm sure I do it all the time.

200. (eyes)

I don't know if it's "psychic foreclosure" or what, but it does seem strange that you find it so suspicious that anyone else might care enough to disagree with you.

203. yeah, I think it quacks like psychic foreclosure

But I haven't read enough of Octafish's posts to have much of an opinion about his motivation, and I'm not planning to.

207. I'll file that under "sour grapes"

I doubt you have any idea where I'm coming from -- and it isn't as if you did any better at answering my questions than you did at answering SDuderstadt's.

219. we all have a lot to learn, I thought

The trouble is, I'm not learning anything from you. Your misdirected insults won't change that, and apparently random topic changes won't either. It's mildly interesting to watch, but I would prefer it if you cared enough to make sense.

222. in real life, I tried to catch your back

And SDuderstadt is probably still snickering at me about it. But at least it illustrates just how hollow your complaints are.

As far as I can figure out, in the world according to Octafish:

If no one challenges your posts, it implies that your arguments can't be refuted.

If one person challenges your posts, it reveals that he is hell-bent on defending the Warren Commission and/or the "BFEE."

If two or more people challenge your posts, that is "tag team tactics... to derail discussion."

I don't really see what "greater point" you are making, beyond heads you win, tails everyone else loses.

Yeah, I admit it: Even assuming for the sake of argument that Boettcher's death four years after his book criticizing Rev. Moon was published is suspicious, the connection to the JFK assassination isn't obvious to me.

387. but-- but-- but what about page 224?!!

Oh, snap. That doesn't really help his case. If he even has a case.

As for page 230... it's hard to shake the impression that Octafish was reading the index, badly. That page does show up under Kennedy, John F.: assassination of, but that is the extent of its relevance.

It was a bizarre move anyway. Were we supposed to conclude that page 212 was "for public consumption" but the other pages he mentions weren't? Has someone claimed that those pages contain a steganographic message implicating George Bush the elder? WTF?

The truly weird thing is that Octafish could simply have said something like, "I haven't read True Compass and I'm not familiar with Ted Kennedy's thoughts about this issue, but if he endorsed the findings of the Warren Commission, then I respectfully disagree." Even if he secretly suspects that Ted was blowing smoke for some reason, there is no percentage in saying so. My guess is that he viscerally can't believe that anyone who knows and cares about the JFK assassination could actually disagree with him.

But that's alright, that's OK, he has a DU Journal!!! So somehow this must all make sense and demonstrate his superior intellectual honesty. I'm sure it does.

396. it isn't as if you're taking the high road

In your preceding comment, you ridiculed everyone in the world who disagrees with your opinion that Oswald wasn't the sole shooter.

Do you actually believe that Ted Kennedy, when he said that he accepted the findings of the Warren Commission, either was lying or was revealing "preferred ignorance" about who shot his brother? Really?

401. did you read the post?

The way some people act like the Kennedy assassination was the result of a lone gunman is ludicrous. It's preferred ignorance. And anyone who prefers to be ignorant about the Kennedy assassination should do their homework.

If you want to parse "ridicule," be my guest. Given your handwaving about your own posts, my expectations are not high.

414. what basis do you have for presuming my ignorance?

Oh, right. I agree with Ted Kennedy. Shame on me.

421. I hope this cleared things up for Octafish, at least

It amazes me how you folks can brag so much about your knowledge of an issue, bring so little of it to a discussion, and think you're strutting your stuff, or whatever it is you think.

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  -A DUer told me I've wasted five decades of life trying to learn the truth about JFK. Octafish  Mar-10-11 04:59 PM   #0 
  - No, I don't  XanaDUer   Mar-10-11 05:00 PM   #1 
  - George Herbert Walker Bush told the FBI he was in Dallas on Nov. 22, 1963  Octafish   Mar-11-11 10:42 AM   #67 
     - Why should it "bother people", dude?  SDuderstadt   Mar-11-11 12:33 PM   #74 
     - The first document has George H. W. Bush  johnnie   Mar-11-11 12:37 PM   #75 
     - Thanks for totally missing the point...  SDuderstadt   Mar-11-11 12:43 PM   #76 
        - I was commenting on your second point  johnnie   Mar-11-11 12:53 PM   #81 
           - Then why were you babbling about...  SDuderstadt   Mar-11-11 12:55 PM   #84 
              - I'll explain it to you slowly  johnnie   Mar-11-11 12:59 PM   #86 
                 - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Mar-11-11 01:05 PM   #87 
     - Here's why, sduderstadt: GHW Bush would go on to head the CIA.  Octafish   Mar-11-11 12:50 PM   #78 
        - huh?  OnTheOtherHand   Mar-11-11 12:53 PM   #82 
        - Try Russ Baker's ''Family of Secrets.''  Octafish   Mar-11-11 01:32 PM   #91 
           - Except Baker simply makes a number of...  SDuderstadt   Mar-11-11 01:39 PM   #93 
           - FWIW I'm about to hit the road...  OnTheOtherHand   Mar-11-11 02:30 PM   #94 
           - wait, so he was in Tyler, or he wasn't?  OnTheOtherHand   Mar-12-11 05:58 AM   #114 
        - Which is nothing more than...  SDuderstadt   Mar-11-11 12:53 PM   #83 
           - Try Michael Parenti's ''The JFK Assassination-Defending the Gangster State,'' dude, er, sduderstadt.  Octafish   Mar-11-11 01:17 PM   #89 
              - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Mar-11-11 01:26 PM   #90 
     - why should it bother more people?  OnTheOtherHand   Mar-11-11 12:51 PM   #79 
  - Have you ever read the stuff about Dorothy Kilgallon?  LisaM   Mar-10-11 05:00 PM   #2 
  - Not A Clue As To What This Is About......  global1   Mar-10-11 05:08 PM   #11 
  - Dorothy Kilgallen -- a great reporter.  Octafish   Mar-10-11 05:18 PM   #23 
  - It's been around for a long time (link)  Sonoman   Mar-10-11 05:19 PM   #25 
  - As I recall, she was the reporter that stated she had secured information that was going to  NorthCarolina   Mar-10-11 05:15 PM   #19 
     - Your recollection is quite correct--  Jackpine Radical   Mar-11-11 12:47 PM   #77 
        - The Kilgallen story is really not...  SDuderstadt   Mar-11-11 12:52 PM   #80 
  - Do you really need to ask my opinion?  Jackpine Radical   Mar-10-11 05:03 PM   #3 
  - I welcome other's opinions -- even when I don't hold the same.  Octafish   Mar-11-11 10:59 AM   #69 
  - If this topic has taken over you life  Drale   Mar-10-11 05:04 PM   #4 
  - It's been a major part of my life -- because it's how the USA got to where we are today.  Octafish   Mar-12-11 11:30 AM   #120 
  - Octafish...Why Are You Giving Such An Arrogant Comment A Moment's Worth Of Consideration  Me.   Mar-10-11 05:05 PM   #5 
  - right -- an unsolicited PM from someone who buys canned stories whole hog  villager   Mar-10-11 05:07 PM   #10 
  - We (You & Me) Are Unanimous In Your Opinion  Me.   Mar-10-11 05:13 PM   #16 
  - The thing is, he's right about one thing.  Octafish   Mar-10-11 05:27 PM   #35 
  - I do not agree, because I am a "JFK Truther" if you will. If it's not unhealthy obsessive, fine n/t  AlabamaLibrul   Mar-10-11 05:05 PM   #6 
  - if you don't feel it "wasteful," then i don't. personally, i think spending 5 decades  Hannah Bell   Mar-10-11 05:06 PM   # 
  -'s not wasteful if it's meaningful and/or enjoyable to you. nt  raccoon   Mar-10-11 05:17 PM   #22 
  - No  Rex   Mar-10-11 05:06 PM   #7 
  - truth matters.....ALL of it....the coincidence theorists have been proven wrong every time a long  blm   Mar-10-11 05:06 PM   #8 
  - You do good work Octafish  KatyMan   Mar-10-11 05:07 PM   #9 
  - It's not a waste  LadyHawkAZ   Mar-10-11 05:10 PM   #12 
  - That is really cool that he met Bono.  LoZoccolo   Mar-10-11 05:12 PM   #13 
  - I was just about to post the same thing. Who knew? n/t  Common Sense Party   Mar-10-11 05:19 PM   #26 
  - I don't think any of us will know the truth until they release all the records. If they ever do.  craigmatic   Mar-10-11 05:13 PM   #14 
  - Familiarize yourself with...  SDuderstadt   Mar-11-11 11:17 AM   #71 
     - Familiarize yourself with Jefferson Morley, who showed CIA continues to hide relevant data.  Octafish   Mar-12-11 02:24 PM   #122 
  - The truth is never a waste of time...  walldude   Mar-10-11 05:13 PM   #15 
  - No I don't agree  Xicano   Mar-10-11 05:14 PM   #17 
  - Nice parody  zappaman   Mar-10-11 08:07 PM   #51 
     - *Sigh*  Xicano   Mar-11-11 03:35 AM   #64 
        - NIce to see THE ONION still does videos! n/t  zappaman   Mar-11-11 10:53 AM   #68 
           - Bwhahaha! That's all you got?  Xicano   Mar-11-11 01:17 PM   #88 
              - enjoying fantasyland?  zappaman   Mar-11-11 01:34 PM   #92 
                 - So let me get this straight..  Xicano   Mar-11-11 02:50 PM   #95 
  - I am convinced that Lee Harvey Oswald fired the fatal shots...  derby378   Mar-10-11 05:14 PM   #18 
  - Keep going!  think4yourself   Mar-10-11 05:15 PM   #20 
  - I know who really killed JFK:  originalpckelly   Mar-10-11 05:16 PM   #21 
  - I knew someone that has long sense passed away who was a big corporate  Lint Head   Mar-10-11 05:19 PM   #24 
  - I think we will find out, but unfortunatly by "we" I'm talking about people who weren't born yet  Exultant Democracy   Mar-10-11 05:20 PM   #27 
  - JFK's campaign touched me in so many ways. I was a young 15 year-old whose Bible Church railed  1776Forever   Mar-10-11 05:21 PM   #28 
  - "The subject still hurts to my core..."  defendandprotect   Mar-10-11 05:22 PM   #29 
  - Spending five decades to learn truths about this country (or the world) is not a waste.  former9thward   Mar-10-11 05:23 PM   #30 
  - You realize don't you - that's Bono in the hoodie  jpak   Mar-10-11 05:23 PM   #31 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-10-11 05:24 PM   #32 
  - No you have not wasted your life and this was a watershed moment.  kickysnana   Mar-10-11 05:25 PM   #33 
  - I agree with the other DU'er.  FLPanhandle   Mar-10-11 05:26 PM   #34 
  - You are positively reeking of empathy today, eh?  villager   Mar-10-11 05:43 PM   #41 
  - Any you enjoy buying whatever crap the government tells you.  former9thward   Mar-10-11 07:37 PM   #50 
     - Ahhhhh....  SDuderstadt   Mar-10-11 10:57 PM   #55 
  - I was 30 miles from Dallas  Scottybeamer70   Mar-10-11 05:27 PM   #36 
  - I've always felt JFK was hit by professionals ...  spin   Mar-10-11 05:33 PM   #37 
  - Why was this moved to the Sept 11 forum....?  hlthe2b   Mar-10-11 05:34 PM   #38 
  - I just turned 55  EFerrari   Mar-10-11 05:41 PM   #39 
  - I don't know of a single...  SDuderstadt   Mar-10-11 07:05 PM   #48 
  - You know, when a boor like Jesse Ventura gives Vincent Bugliosi a public intellectual spanking on...  robertpaulsen   Mar-10-11 05:43 PM   #40 
  - I, for one am fascinated by them.  hootinholler   Mar-13-11 11:03 AM   #144 
  - Not a waste at all  zappaman   Mar-10-11 05:43 PM   #42 
  - Hang in there, I look forward to your posts  Holly_Hobby   Mar-10-11 05:43 PM   #43 
  - The search for the Truth is what propelled me  PCIntern   Mar-10-11 05:44 PM   #44 
  - Too late to rec. n/t  k-robjoe   Mar-10-11 05:44 PM   #45 
  - I vowed the last time you decided to thumb your nose at DU's rules to not enable that kind of  apocalypsehow   Mar-10-11 06:37 PM   #46 
  - Who Made You Hall Monitor?  Me.   Mar-10-11 10:13 PM   #52 
     - We actually drew straws for it...  SDuderstadt   Mar-10-11 10:52 PM   #53 
  - Nope, you didn't waste your time  johnnie   Mar-10-11 06:49 PM   #47 
  - I'm on your side...  SDuderstadt   Mar-10-11 07:16 PM   #49 
  - There are far worse ways you could have spent five decades.  Bolo Boffin   Mar-10-11 10:57 PM   #54 
  - Leave Octafish alone!  SDuderstadt   Mar-10-11 10:58 PM   #56 
     - He could be doing something really futile...  Ghost in the Machine   Mar-11-11 01:11 AM   #57 
     - .  johnnie   Mar-11-11 02:02 AM   #58 
        - You left out...  SDuderstadt   Mar-11-11 02:07 AM   #59 
        - I just took it for granted  johnnie   Mar-11-11 02:11 AM   #60 
        - No, I trained...  SDuderstadt   Mar-11-11 02:17 AM   #61 
        - Black belt in what...  Ghost in the Machine   Mar-11-11 02:43 AM   #63 
        - Oh, I see you two have met before...  Ghost in the Machine   Mar-11-11 02:41 AM   #62 
        - LOL! n/t  whatchamacallit   Mar-11-11 11:23 AM   #72 
     - I don't see the need to attack Octafish on this.  Bolo Boffin   Mar-11-11 10:24 AM   #65 
        - I'd be glad to, if...  SDuderstadt   Mar-11-11 10:33 AM   #66 
        - I agree with that  OnTheOtherHand   Mar-11-11 12:57 PM   #85 
        - My response was as measured as I could make it, given the track record of being accused of being a  apocalypsehow   Mar-11-11 03:17 PM   #97 
           - I understand that Octafish and others thoughtlessly assign bad faith to people on our side  Bolo Boffin   Mar-11-11 07:00 PM   #98 
           - That's a question for him...  SDuderstadt   Mar-11-11 07:17 PM   #99 
              - The situation won't change  zappaman   Mar-11-11 07:49 PM   #100 
              - Then read the OP.  Bolo Boffin   Mar-11-11 08:33 PM   #101 
                 - I'd be glad to stop "attacking" when...  SDuderstadt   Mar-11-11 08:38 PM   #102 
                    - "He does make an excellent point." -- Octafish  Bolo Boffin   Mar-11-11 09:04 PM   #103 
                       - Well, when he can walk the walk, rather than...  SDuderstadt   Mar-11-11 09:06 PM   #104 
                          - Talking the talk is the only way to walk the walk on a message board.  Bolo Boffin   Mar-11-11 10:15 PM   #107 
                             - It's up to him...  SDuderstadt   Mar-11-11 10:17 PM   #108 
                                - Yeah-huh. n/t  Bolo Boffin   Mar-11-11 10:30 PM   #109 
                                   - With all due respect...  SDuderstadt   Mar-11-11 10:32 PM   #110 
           - FWIW, I thought your post was great  OnTheOtherHand   Mar-12-11 05:49 AM   #113 
  - I'd say not a waste at all and  whatchamacallit   Mar-11-11 11:13 AM   #70 
  - Define irony...  SDuderstadt   Mar-11-11 12:26 PM   #73 
  - That's the real problem I have with most CT'ers: they don't think the rules apply to them.  apocalypsehow   Mar-11-11 03:04 PM   #96 
     - The people who seem to get most upset at having their belief system questioned  dflprincess   Mar-11-11 09:27 PM   #105 
        - Your post epitomizes precisely the problem I'm pointing out...  SDuderstadt   Mar-11-11 09:46 PM   #106 
        - Sheer projection. n/t.  apocalypsehow   Mar-15-11 07:07 PM   #211 
  - Wait...  SDuderstadt   Mar-12-11 07:19 PM   #123 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-11-11 11:06 PM   #111 
  - How much?  zappaman   Mar-12-11 12:12 AM   #112 
  - "Bush family apologist"  SDuderstadt   Mar-12-11 07:37 AM   #115 
     - Do you agree with the other investigation's findings?  johnnie   Mar-12-11 10:58 AM   #116 
        - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Mar-12-11 11:12 AM   #117 
           - Slow down hot rod  johnnie   Mar-12-11 11:27 AM   #118 
              - Could you translate that for us, dude? n/t  SDuderstadt   Mar-12-11 12:03 PM   #121 
                 - If you can't understand those simple words....  johnnie   Mar-12-11 09:56 PM   #124 
                    - I don't believe you are reading Bugliosi's book  zappaman   Mar-12-11 10:15 PM   #125 
                       - I bought it on Kindle  johnnie   Mar-12-11 10:24 PM   #126 
                          - yes  zappaman   Mar-12-11 10:32 PM   #127 
                             - So your saying that I've only read the intro?  johnnie   Mar-12-11 10:44 PM   #128 
                                - you tell me  zappaman   Mar-12-11 10:49 PM   #129 
                                   - I just said I was reading it  johnnie   Mar-12-11 11:16 PM   #130 
                                      - Great!  zappaman   Mar-12-11 11:28 PM   #131 
                                      - I will read it  johnnie   Mar-12-11 11:36 PM   #132 
                                         - Well, for starters...  SDuderstadt   Mar-12-11 11:42 PM   #133 
                                         - So are Kennedy and Oswald  johnnie   Mar-12-11 11:45 PM   #134 
                                            - Do you even remember your question?  SDuderstadt   Mar-13-11 12:03 AM   #138 
                                               - Dude...  johnnie   Mar-13-11 01:26 AM   #141 
                                               - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Mar-13-11 08:04 AM   #142 
                                               - well, the subject/verb thing was kinda cheap  OnTheOtherHand   Mar-13-11 11:09 AM   #145 
                                               - "Isn't all the people in the Warren Commission"? n/t  SDuderstadt   Mar-13-11 11:15 AM   #146 
                                               - yes, and I'm not sure the preceding comment came out right, either  OnTheOtherHand   Mar-13-11 04:55 PM   #147 
                                         - all those people were questioned so there is no real problem  zappaman   Mar-12-11 11:50 PM   #135 
                                            - Then I will keep on reading  johnnie   Mar-12-11 11:51 PM   #136 
                                               - Like I said  zappaman   Mar-12-11 11:53 PM   #137 
                                               - Editing period is one hour, right?  BeFree   Mar-17-11 07:17 PM   #247 
                                               - You've heard of Daylight Saving Time, right? ( n/t )  Make7   Mar-17-11 07:24 PM   #248 
                                               - good job, Inspector Clouseau  zappaman   Mar-17-11 07:25 PM   #249 
                                               - For once  BeFree   Mar-17-11 07:33 PM   #250 
                                               - Editing period starts after someone makes a post, right?  Make7   Mar-17-11 08:13 PM   #251 
                                               - Well, if Kindle says that you've read 1%...  SDuderstadt   Mar-13-11 12:32 AM   #139 
                                                  - What's a decafe?  johnnie   Mar-13-11 12:47 AM   #140 
                                      - one unfortunate thing  OnTheOtherHand   Mar-13-11 10:51 AM   #143 
  - I see nothing wrong with your hobby  hack89   Mar-12-11 11:28 AM   #119 
  - A question  johnnie   Mar-13-11 10:17 PM   #148 
  - there were only 3 shots  zappaman   Mar-13-11 10:41 PM   #149 
     - I think you mean....  SDuderstadt   Mar-13-11 10:49 PM   #150 
     - Heh  johnnie   Mar-13-11 11:16 PM   #152 
     - And see, that's the thing - I don't think you really believe or care whether there was a conspiracy  apocalypsehow   Mar-15-11 07:27 PM   #212 
        - You see Skippy..  johnnie   Mar-15-11 08:05 PM   #214 
     - yes  zappaman   Mar-13-11 11:18 PM   #153 
     - Acording to Connally who was there and I doubt you were  johnnie   Mar-13-11 11:15 PM   #151 
        - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Mar-17-11 09:55 PM   #253 
        - Probably the one that missed  johnnie   Mar-18-11 01:10 AM   #254 
           - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Mar-18-11 01:16 AM   #255 
              - I didn't miss the point n/t  johnnie   Mar-18-11 01:17 AM   #256 
                 - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Mar-18-11 01:27 AM   #257 
                    - Read the fucking thread  johnnie   Mar-18-11 01:32 AM   #258 
                       - Read the section (your words)...  SDuderstadt   Mar-18-11 01:33 AM   #259 
                          - Yes I know what I said  johnnie   Mar-18-11 01:35 AM   #260 
                             - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Mar-18-11 01:37 AM   #261 
                                - I'll spell it out for you  johnnie   Mar-18-11 01:42 AM   #262 
                                   - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Mar-18-11 01:49 AM   #263 
                                      - Here is what I said  johnnie   Mar-18-11 09:21 AM   #264 
                                         - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Mar-18-11 09:48 AM   #265 
                                            - You're "blowing lids" is getting old  johnnie   Mar-18-11 10:01 AM   #266 
                                               - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Mar-18-11 10:17 AM   #267 
                                               - You have the same problem as your pal Vince  johnnie   Mar-18-11 10:29 AM   #268 
                                               - LOL!  SDuderstadt   Mar-18-11 10:36 AM   #269 
                                               - That's true  johnnie   Mar-18-11 10:44 AM   #270 
                                               - Re : Under his arm  k-robjoe   Mar-18-11 11:21 AM   #271 
        - Check out  k-robjoe   Mar-19-11 09:15 AM   #278 
           - Thanks k-robjoe!  johnnie   Mar-19-11 10:18 AM   #279 
  - Question  johnnie   Mar-14-11 01:33 AM   #154 
  - They said Oswald, acting alone, killed President Kennedy.  Octafish   Mar-14-11 10:06 AM   #156 
     - Jesus...  SDuderstadt   Mar-14-11 10:15 AM   #157 
        - Here's the shirt, jacket and the story, sduderstadt.  Octafish   Mar-14-11 12:29 PM   #158 
           - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Mar-14-11 01:26 PM   #159 
           - shhhhhhh  zappaman   Mar-14-11 02:23 PM   #160 
           - Not a single conspiracist...  SDuderstadt   Mar-14-11 05:49 PM   #161 
           - Simple answer  johnnie   Mar-15-11 09:08 AM   #162 
              - Small problem...  SDuderstadt   Mar-15-11 09:33 AM   #167 
                 - You mean this recreation?  johnnie   Mar-15-11 09:35 AM   #168 
                    - Yes...  SDuderstadt   Mar-15-11 09:44 AM   #171 
                       - So you point to the recreation to back up your point...  johnnie   Mar-15-11 09:50 AM   #172 
                          - It shows it exiting his throat...  SDuderstadt   Mar-15-11 09:53 AM   #173 
                             - Sure, the computer animation shows it  johnnie   Mar-15-11 09:57 AM   #174 
                                - WTF are you...  SDuderstadt   Mar-15-11 09:58 AM   #175 
                                - You're so predictable n/t  johnnie   Mar-15-11 10:02 AM   #176 
                                   - And you are so clueless.  SDuderstadt   Mar-15-11 10:05 AM   #177 
                                - Listen to this  k-robjoe   Mar-15-11 12:16 PM   #198 
                                   - 2:56  k-robjoe   Mar-15-11 12:24 PM   #199 
                                      - Nonsense. You're chasing phantoms and telling your eyes it sees things that are not there now. n/t.  apocalypsehow   Mar-15-11 07:02 PM   #209 
                                      - The Beyond Conspiracy clip is silly  johnnie   Mar-16-11 10:21 AM   #241 
                                         - Re : The Beyond Conspiracy clip is silly  k-robjoe   Mar-16-11 10:42 AM   #242 
           - Still haven't added anything worth reading, zappaman.  Octafish   Mar-15-11 09:25 AM   #165 
              - you are correct  zappaman   Mar-15-11 10:20 AM   #180 
                 - So, what is wrong with what I linked to? Is it an error of fact or your opinion, zappaman?  Octafish   Mar-15-11 03:28 PM   #205 
           - The president's shirt wasn't over his head, as it'd have to be, sduderstadt.  Octafish   Mar-15-11 09:27 AM   #166 
              - That is pure bullshit, dude  SDuderstadt   Mar-15-11 09:36 AM   #169 
                 - Painstakingly explained in your mind, sduderstadt, not mine.  Octafish   Mar-15-11 10:11 AM   #178 
                    - Did you check out the video I posted above?  johnnie   Mar-15-11 10:20 AM   #181 
                    - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Mar-15-11 10:29 AM   #185 
                    - If it weren't for the subject, it'd be funny how that works for some minds.  Octafish   Mar-15-11 11:11 AM   #186 
                       - Except that...  SDuderstadt   Mar-15-11 11:15 AM   #188 
                          - Where do you find the time to follow every single one my posts, sduderstadt?  Octafish   Mar-15-11 11:22 AM   #191 
                             - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Mar-15-11 11:27 AM   #193 
                             - When it comes to the JFK assassination, you're like my shadow, sduderstadt.  Octafish   Mar-15-11 11:42 AM   #194 
                                - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Mar-15-11 11:51 AM   # 
                                - (eyes)  OnTheOtherHand   Mar-15-11 12:37 PM   #200 
                                   - The "psychic foreclosure" observation...  SDuderstadt   Mar-15-11 12:46 PM   #201 
                                      - yeah, I think it quacks like psychic foreclosure  OnTheOtherHand   Mar-15-11 01:26 PM   #203 
                                         - Interesting. I've read enough of your posts, ontheotherhand, to know where you're coming from.  Octafish   Mar-15-11 03:33 PM   #206 
                                            - I'll file that under "sour grapes"  OnTheOtherHand   Mar-15-11 04:15 PM   #207 
                                            - Right you are, professor.  Octafish   Mar-15-11 07:40 PM   #213 
                                            - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Mar-15-11 11:12 PM   #216 
                                            - we all have a lot to learn, I thought  OnTheOtherHand   Mar-16-11 04:06 AM   #219 
                                            - Excellent point, ontheotherhand, right.  Octafish   Mar-16-11 06:46 AM   #220 
                                            - in real life, I tried to catch your back  OnTheOtherHand   Mar-16-11 07:33 AM   #222 
                                            - Right on all points, ontheotherhand.  Octafish   Mar-16-11 07:47 AM   #224 
                                            - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Mar-16-11 07:54 AM   #225 
                                            - Here you go, sduderstadt.  Octafish   Mar-16-11 08:00 AM   #227 
                                            - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Mar-16-11 08:12 AM   #229 
                                            - Here's more, sduderstadt.  Octafish   Mar-16-11 08:25 AM   #231 
                                            - "Doesn't matter how you couch your words"  SDuderstadt   Mar-16-11 08:33 AM   #233 
                             - If you don't want to discuss things on a discussion board, quit posting Octafish. No one is forcing  apocalypsehow   Mar-15-11 07:04 PM   #210 
                                - Still waiting for that bibliography of yours, apocalypsehow, it's been a year and a half.  Octafish   Mar-15-11 08:41 PM   #215 
                                   - The hold-up on that Biblio business is none other than *you*, Octafish, as you well know:  apocalypsehow   Mar-16-11 12:54 AM   #218 
                                      - You said: '' I've forgotten more about the Kennedy administration than you'll ever know.''  Octafish   Mar-16-11 07:36 AM   #223 
                                         - That's obvious to anyone with enabled vision and a web browser, as has been shown repeatedly.  apocalypsehow   Mar-16-11 03:21 PM   #244 
                                            - Lots of opinion there, apocalypsehow. Unfortunately, there's no information.  Octafish   Mar-16-11 04:14 PM   #245 
                                               - Then if you are unwilling to take the steps to satisfy your request, you should not expect that  apocalypsehow   Mar-16-11 04:45 PM   #246 
                    - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Mar-15-11 10:23 AM   #183 
           - Why can't you answer a simple question...  SDuderstadt   Mar-15-11 09:23 AM   #163 
              - Don't change the facts, sduderstadt. The evidence shows JFK was shot in the back, not the neck.  Octafish   Mar-15-11 09:24 AM   #164 
                 - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Mar-15-11 09:41 AM   #170 
                    - Perhaps goofy bullshit to you, sduderstadt, not me.  Octafish   Mar-15-11 10:14 AM   #179 
                       - Do they look like this, my friend?  zappaman   Mar-15-11 10:21 AM   #182 
                       - Keep posting, zappaman.  Octafish   Mar-15-11 11:14 AM   #187 
                          - Which looks remarkably similar to...  SDuderstadt   Mar-15-11 11:18 AM   #190 
                       - More bullshit...  SDuderstadt   Mar-15-11 10:25 AM   #184 
                          - Wrong sduderstadt. You can't show me ''Multiple scientific experirments that have produce (sic)...''  Octafish   Mar-15-11 11:18 AM   #189 
                             - One of them (if not more) is...  SDuderstadt   Mar-15-11 11:22 AM   #192 
                                - A TV show is the best you got, sduderstadt? A TV show?  Octafish   Mar-15-11 11:44 AM   #195 
                                   - The Discovery  johnnie   Mar-15-11 11:51 AM   #196 
                                   - Too late  SDuderstadt   Mar-15-11 11:52 AM   #197 
                                      - You said ''Multiple scientific experiments'' and all you can come up with is a TV show, sduderstadt.  Octafish   Mar-15-11 03:26 PM   #204 
                                         - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Mar-15-11 11:20 PM   #217 
                                            - A TV show, sduderstadt.  Octafish   Mar-16-11 06:47 AM   #221 
                                               - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Mar-16-11 07:56 AM   #226 
                                                  - A TV show, sduderstadt.  Octafish   Mar-16-11 08:01 AM   #228 
                                                     - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Mar-16-11 08:18 AM   #230 
                                                     - A TV show, sduderstadt.  Octafish   Mar-16-11 08:31 AM   #232 
                                                     - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Mar-16-11 08:38 AM   #234 
                                                     - Why don't you just watch the fucking thing, then...  SDuderstadt   Mar-16-11 08:48 AM   #235 
                                                     - How do you know I didn't, sduderstadt?  Octafish   Mar-16-11 09:22 AM   #237 
                                                     - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Mar-16-11 09:27 AM   #238 
                                                     - It's still a TV show, sduderstadt.  Octafish   Mar-16-11 09:55 AM   #239 
                                                     - Aren't smartphones cool?  SDuderstadt   Mar-16-11 10:00 AM   #240 
  - I imagine anyone who believes with an absolute conviction...  LanternWaste   Mar-14-11 09:22 AM   #155 
  - No, it's not a waste  spooked911   Mar-15-11 01:01 PM   #202 
  - LOL!  zappaman   Mar-15-11 05:21 PM   #208 
     - it's not really funny  spooked911   Mar-16-11 09:21 AM   #236 
        - you're right  zappaman   Mar-16-11 12:00 PM   #243 
  - After this thread, I changed my mind - he was right. nt  hack89   Mar-17-11 09:49 PM   #252 
  - Interesting  johnnie   Mar-19-11 01:20 AM   #272 
  - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Mar-19-11 02:08 AM   #273 
  - Good for you  johnnie   Mar-19-11 02:28 AM   #274 
     - Of course not a bit of the false premises you concluded with were based on anything actually stated.  apocalypsehow   Mar-19-11 03:01 AM   #276 
     - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Mar-19-11 08:15 AM   #277 
        - "deliberately mischaracterizing what I have said is pretty smarmy"  johnnie   Mar-19-11 11:37 AM   #284 
           - Point to anywhere that I have...  SDuderstadt   Mar-19-11 02:06 PM   #301 
              - Me? no  johnnie   Mar-19-11 11:44 PM   #342 
  - Once again, distortion and obfuscation - you are misrepresenting what was said in service of a very  apocalypsehow   Mar-19-11 02:56 AM   #275 
     - +1  zappaman   Mar-19-11 11:07 AM   #280 
     - Oswald was in the USSR on company business.  Octafish   Mar-19-11 11:31 AM   #281 
     - More of your goofy...  SDuderstadt   Mar-19-11 11:37 AM   #283 
     - Why call the facts you don't like ''goofy bullshit,'' sduderstadt?  Octafish   Mar-19-11 12:29 PM   #288 
        - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Mar-19-11 01:56 PM   #300 
     - wait...the CIA killed JFK?  zappaman   Mar-19-11 12:20 PM   #285 
        - Did you ever hear of Philip Melanson before this thread, zappaman?  Octafish   Mar-19-11 12:27 PM   #286 
           - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Mar-19-11 12:29 PM   #287 
              - You must've gotten your accounts mixed up, sduderstadt.  Octafish   Mar-19-11 12:31 PM   #289 
                 - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Mar-19-11 12:46 PM   #290 
                    - Right you are, sduderstadt.  Octafish   Mar-19-11 01:17 PM   #291 
                       - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Mar-19-11 01:23 PM   #292 
                          - Sure, sduderstadt.  Octafish   Mar-19-11 01:25 PM   #293 
                             - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Mar-19-11 01:28 PM   #294 
                             - You must've bought the ''Last Word'' upgrade, huh, sduderstadt?  Octafish   Mar-19-11 01:42 PM   #296 
                                - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Mar-19-11 01:49 PM   #299 
                                - Ted Kennedy was dishonest?  johnnie   Mar-19-11 11:58 PM   #344 
                                   - Are you smearing...  SDuderstadt   Mar-20-11 01:03 AM   #345 
                                      - Get over it  johnnie   Mar-20-11 01:20 AM   #346 
                                         - Get over your smear of EMK?  SDuderstadt   Mar-20-11 03:22 AM   #347 
                                - Obviously, Ted Kennedy was in on it  zappaman   Mar-19-11 02:30 PM   #302 
                                   - Apparently, Octafish does not care...  SDuderstadt   Mar-19-11 02:33 PM   #303 
                                      - 'Swinish' is the word I use to describe people who denigrate others, sduderstadt.  Octafish   Mar-19-11 03:05 PM   #304 
                                         - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Mar-19-11 03:09 PM   #306 
                                            - Right you are, sduderstadt.  Octafish   Mar-19-11 04:04 PM   #317 
                                               - WTF are you...  SDuderstadt   Mar-19-11 04:12 PM   #318 
                             - why can't you just tell us who did it and why?  zappaman   Mar-19-11 01:30 PM   #295 
                                - Your writings bely that, zappaman.  Octafish   Mar-19-11 01:45 PM   #297 
                                   - Dodging the question, my friend?  zappaman   Mar-19-11 01:48 PM   #298 
                                   - Going from your writings on DU, it's clear you don't know the first thing about courage, zappaman.  Octafish   Mar-19-11 03:08 PM   #305 
                                      - ouch  zappaman   Mar-19-11 03:12 PM   #307 
                                      - Nothing better to do today, zappaman?  Octafish   Mar-19-11 03:13 PM   #309 
                                      - Says someone who...  SDuderstadt   Mar-19-11 03:12 PM   #308 
                                         - That's about what I expect from you, sduderstadt.  Octafish   Mar-19-11 03:15 PM   #310 
                                            - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Mar-19-11 03:19 PM   #311 
                                            - Just because you say something is so, doesn't make it so, sduderstadt.  Octafish   Mar-19-11 03:53 PM   #313 
                                            - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Mar-19-11 04:15 PM   #319 
                                            - Please post the excerpt from the book for us, sduderstadt.  Octafish   Mar-19-11 04:22 PM   #321 
                                            - Y'know, dude...  SDuderstadt   Mar-19-11 05:12 PM   #327 
                                            - ''If I were you, I'd lay low for awhile'' (sic), sduderstadt.  Octafish   Mar-19-11 05:37 PM   #330 
                                            - Dude..  SDuderstadt   Mar-19-11 05:44 PM   #331 
                                            - Are you ill, sduderstadt?  Octafish   Mar-19-11 08:48 PM   #339 
                                            - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Mar-19-11 08:55 PM   #340 
                                            - wow  zappaman   Mar-19-11 08:57 PM   #341 
                                            - Octafish, my good friend  zappaman   Mar-21-11 04:23 PM   #389 
                                            - looks to me like Teddy  zappaman   Mar-19-11 05:59 PM   #334 
                                            - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Mar-19-11 06:04 PM   #335 
                                            - Well, well, well....  SDuderstadt   Mar-20-11 04:16 PM   #353 
                                            - And Octafish continues to...  SDuderstadt   Mar-21-11 10:32 AM   #386 
                                            - but-- but-- but what about page 224?!!  OnTheOtherHand   Mar-21-11 02:10 PM   #387 
                                            - poor guy  zappaman   Mar-21-11 02:51 PM   #388 
                                            - Hey  zappaman   Mar-19-11 03:55 PM   #314 
                                               - You obviously have a talent for watching television, zappaman.  Octafish   Mar-19-11 04:02 PM   #316 
                                               - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Mar-19-11 04:20 PM   #320 
                                               - Send me a bibliography, sduderstadt.  Octafish   Mar-19-11 04:38 PM   #324 
                                               - Your games are getting really tiring, dude...  SDuderstadt   Mar-19-11 05:20 PM   #328 
                                               - Thank you for your link to a TV show, sduderstadt.  Octafish   Mar-19-11 05:49 PM   #332 
                                               - Funny how you keep trying to...  SDuderstadt   Mar-19-11 05:52 PM   #333 
                                               - Read Melanson  zappaman   Mar-19-11 04:44 PM   #325 
                                               - So, reading all those works and you still believe Lee Harvey Oswald was the assassin, zappaman?  Octafish   Mar-19-11 06:40 PM   #336 
                                               - yes  zappaman   Mar-19-11 07:37 PM   #337 
                                               - If you say so, zappaman.  Octafish   Mar-19-11 08:47 PM   #338 
                                               - I asked you a question  zappaman   Mar-20-11 06:36 PM   #381 
                                               - Why would I want to meet you, zappaman?  Octafish   Mar-21-11 04:37 PM   #390 
                                               - Nah, it would be the one place you would fit in!  zappaman   Mar-21-11 04:42 PM   #391 
                                   - "bely"  SDuderstadt   Mar-19-11 03:22 PM   #312 
                                      - You seem to derive great pleasure from pointing out a spelling error, sduderstadt.  Octafish   Mar-19-11 03:58 PM   #315 
                                         - No, dude...  SDuderstadt   Mar-19-11 04:22 PM   #322 
                                            - Why pretend, sduderstadt? You're exposed. Dude.  Octafish   Mar-19-11 04:35 PM   #323 
                                               - oh me! pick me, my good friend!  zappaman   Mar-19-11 05:08 PM   #326 
                                               - "You're exposed"...  SDuderstadt   Mar-19-11 05:22 PM   #329 
     - I would comment on the whole drawn out reply  johnnie   Mar-19-11 11:35 AM   #282 
        - Not really interested in any comment you might have to make, period. This sums it up:  apocalypsehow   Mar-20-11 06:34 AM   #349 
  - I see this topic is hot... It's because you're not wasting time...  MrMickeysMom   Mar-19-11 11:57 PM   #343 
  - Garrison was a power-abusing fraud with a severe mental illness*, and Prouty was about as credible  apocalypsehow   Mar-20-11 06:32 AM   #348 
  - I don't think I can edit my "video evidence"....  MrMickeysMom   Mar-20-11 02:50 PM   #350 
     - "there is video evidence that the shots DID NOT come from the 6th floor...."  zappaman   Mar-20-11 03:05 PM   #351 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-20-11 04:39 PM   #354 
     - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Mar-20-11 04:44 PM   #355 
     - What's a "pusts"?  johnnie   Mar-20-11 04:48 PM   #356 
        - Take the ending "ts" off and...  SDuderstadt   Mar-20-11 04:50 PM   #357 
           - My smears?  johnnie   Mar-20-11 04:58 PM   #358 
              - Check the EMK sub-thread....  SDuderstadt   Mar-20-11 05:00 PM   #359 
                 - Ha  johnnie   Mar-20-11 05:02 PM   #360 
                    - Yes, dude...  SDuderstadt   Mar-20-11 05:06 PM   #362 
                       - I questioned the honesty of a politician  johnnie   Mar-20-11 05:08 PM   #363 
                          - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Mar-20-11 05:11 PM   #364 
                          - do you have any evidence  zappaman   Mar-20-11 05:13 PM   #366 
                             - Would it matter if I did?  johnnie   Mar-20-11 05:25 PM   #370 
                                - is that your way of saying you don't  zappaman   Mar-20-11 05:33 PM   #372 
                                - Hey, Z-man....  SDuderstadt   Mar-20-11 05:37 PM   #375 
                                - You guys would never stop taking the bait  johnnie   Mar-20-11 05:38 PM   #376 
                                - I hereby nominate this post as the winner of...  SDuderstadt   Mar-20-11 05:33 PM   #373 
                                   - And I thought this one would have won  johnnie   Mar-20-11 05:40 PM   #377 
     - yes I am calling bullshit  zappaman   Mar-20-11 05:04 PM   #361 
        - No, he's come here to....  SDuderstadt   Mar-20-11 05:12 PM   #365 
        - Yup  johnnie   Mar-20-11 05:17 PM   #368 
        - No one's talking about anything but the present....  SDuderstadt   Mar-20-11 05:31 PM   #371 
           - Questioning my "reading comprehension."  johnnie   Mar-20-11 05:50 PM   #378 
              - "You're (sic) so-called skills"  SDuderstadt   Mar-20-11 06:04 PM   #379 
                 - lol  johnnie   Mar-20-11 06:13 PM   #380 
        - nah, apocalypsehow figured him out a while ago  zappaman   Mar-20-11 05:18 PM   #369 
           - And why are you here?  johnnie   Mar-20-11 05:37 PM   #374 
              - nope  zappaman   Mar-20-11 06:46 PM   #382 
                 - .  johnnie   Mar-20-11 07:00 PM   #383 
        - I'm at about 5%  johnnie   Mar-20-11 05:16 PM   #367 
     - No...  MrMickeysMom   Mar-20-11 07:56 PM   #384 
        - Yes I understand  zappaman   Mar-20-11 10:12 PM   #385 
           - What are you laughing about?  MrMickeysMom   Mar-21-11 08:49 PM   #392 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-21-11 10:20 PM   #393 
                 - Nice...  MrMickeysMom   Mar-21-11 11:17 PM   #394 
                    - The proposition on the table is straightforward: LINK. TO. THE. VIDEO. EVIDENCE. YOU. ASSERT. EXISTS  apocalypsehow   Mar-22-11 12:11 AM   #395 
                    - it isn't as if you're taking the high road  OnTheOtherHand   Mar-22-11 06:12 AM   #396 
                       - Take out of context, much, ontheotherhand?  Octafish   Mar-22-11 09:05 AM   #397 
                          - help her out, my good friend  zappaman   Mar-22-11 09:58 AM   #399 
                          - The nonsense is in your reply...  MrMickeysMom   Mar-22-11 05:43 PM   #411 
                             - still waiting  zappaman   Mar-22-11 07:25 PM   #416 
                          - did you read the post?  OnTheOtherHand   Mar-22-11 10:23 AM   #401 
                             - Geez.... do you NOT like being told to do your homework..  MrMickeysMom   Mar-22-11 05:48 PM   #412 
                                - what basis do you have for presuming my ignorance?  OnTheOtherHand   Mar-22-11 05:54 PM   #414 
                                - See post #414  MrMickeysMom   Mar-22-11 10:00 PM   #418 
                                   - I hope this cleared things up for Octafish, at least  OnTheOtherHand   Mar-23-11 04:58 AM   #421 
                                      - What have you brought, ontheotherhand?  Octafish   Mar-25-11 08:11 AM   #424 
                                         - What a petty, smallminded...  SDuderstadt   Mar-25-11 09:26 AM   #425 
                                            - To be regarded lightly by you is a small disappointment, sduderstadt.  Octafish   Mar-25-11 09:59 AM   #426 
                                               - Says the guy who smeared...  SDuderstadt   Mar-25-11 10:06 AM   #427 
                                               - Only in your mind, sduderstadt.  Octafish   Mar-25-11 10:08 AM   #429 
                                               - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Mar-25-11 10:10 AM   #430 
                                               - Self-deleted...  SDuderstadt   Mar-25-11 10:06 AM   #428 
                                - maybe one day you can make it halfway there  zappaman   Mar-22-11 07:27 PM   #417 
                                   - Well... I guess you should do this...  MrMickeysMom   Mar-22-11 10:09 PM   #419 
                                      - wow. n/t  zappaman   Mar-23-11 02:33 AM   #420 
     - There is? Great! You've just cracked the case! And now I'm sure you're going to post that "video  apocalypsehow   Mar-20-11 03:12 PM   #352 
        - Besides you and your tag team mates, no one has claimed to have 'cracked the case,' apocalypsehow.  Octafish   Mar-22-11 09:12 AM   #398 
        - Which is precisely my point...  SDuderstadt   Mar-22-11 01:55 PM   #402 
        - Waikiki cancelled?!?!?!  zappaman   Mar-22-11 02:02 PM   #404 
        - No one ever accused conspiracists of...  SDuderstadt   Mar-22-11 02:05 PM   #406 
        - This post sums it up precisely. If I *were* a devout "Researcher," I'd cringe every time I saw an OP  apocalypsehow   Mar-22-11 02:27 PM   #407 
        - Were you invited?  MrMickeysMom   Mar-22-11 05:51 PM   #413 
        - still waiting  zappaman   Mar-22-11 07:23 PM   #415 
        - The only one engaging in a circle jerk is you, sduderstadt.  Octafish   Mar-24-11 07:40 AM   #422 
           - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Mar-24-11 08:46 AM   #423 
        - That is because the "case" has already definitively been "cracked": Lee Harvey Oswald, acting alone  apocalypsehow   Mar-22-11 02:01 PM   #403 
        - re: baited breath  johnnie   Mar-22-11 10:11 AM   #400 
           - Uninterested in any observation or criticism you might have to make, period. Summed up here:  apocalypsehow   Mar-22-11 02:05 PM   #405 
              - But interested enough to keep posting that link  johnnie   Mar-22-11 03:40 PM   #408 
                 - Yes, I am quite keen on keeping others up to speed and very aware of *why* I am quite dismissive of  apocalypsehow   Mar-22-11 04:04 PM   #409 
                    - .  johnnie   Mar-22-11 04:14 PM   #410 
  - Octafish, you know the JFK assassination  Blue_In_AK   Mar-30-11 02:51 PM   #431 
     - The JFK assassination is one of the most...  SDuderstadt   Mar-30-11 02:58 PM   #432 
     - a tv show?  zappaman   Mar-30-11 04:05 PM   #433 
        - I see you're doing your...  SDuderstadt   Mar-30-11 04:09 PM   #434 
           - if only  zappaman   Mar-30-11 04:54 PM   #435 
     - Thanks, Blue_In_AK!  Octafish   Jan-05-12 01:28 PM   #436 
        - How could I not agree that the JFK is anything but a closed issue  AlwaysQuestion   Jan-05-12 04:37 PM   #437 

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