Reply #82: RE: Who is "Donna"

[rschop]

First according to the dictionary the meaning of "prima fascia" is given below:

"prima fascia".

In layman's terms, it means "at face value."
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The term in the legal sense is "prima facie", a Latin term which means "at first look", at first sight. This term basically means that certain cases could be perceived to be open and shut cases due to evidence presented before a trial.

The term I used was in the layman’s sense, the legal term is "prima facie". I did not use this term in the legal sense as I was not in a court of law where legal terms are used.

In your "answer" to question #1...
" who is Donna"?

There again it shows that you never even bothered to read the DOJ IG report, when you claim that you have.

"Donna" is the DOJ IG alias for FBI HQ IOS Agent Dina Corsi, she is sometimes referred to as "Jane". She is the FBI HQ agent who set up the meeting in New York City on June 11, 2001, between the CIA and the FBI Cole bombing investigators, at the request of Tom Wilshire, the former Deputy Chief of the CIA bin Laden unit. At this meeting she presented three photos of Mihdhar that she had been given by Wilshire, taken at Kuala Lumpur. It is obvious that when CIA officer Clark Shannon asked Bongardt and some of his team if they could recognize anyone in the photos of Mihdhar, and one photo only had Mihdhar and Hazmi in it, a fact that the CIA was well aware of, that this meeting had been set up to do nothing more than find out if the Cole bombing investigators had found out about Mihdhar and Hazmi in their search for Khallad, the master mind of the Cole bombing. At the time of this meeting in New York, the CIA also had a photo of Khallad at this Kuala Lumpur meeting with Mihdhar and Hazmi planning the Cole bombing, and wanted to keep this information completely secret from the FBI Cole bombing investigators.

According to the DOJ IG report, the CIA was aware that Khallad had been at the Kuala Lumpur meeting, when he was identified in a Kuala Lumpur photo on January 4, 2001 by the FBI/CIA joint Source. Again according to the DOJ IG report, Wilshire was aware of this same information prior to the New York meeting and then had the photographic proof of this information on July 13, 2001.

NOTE: No one with the 9/11 Commission or DOJ IG investigation has ever explained how a very high level FBI manager, Tom Wilshire, could know that Mihdhar and Hazmi had taken part in the murder of 17 US sailors, and then not only hide this information from the FBI Cole investigators, which in itself is a horrific crime, but allow Corsi and Middleton, who worked under Wilshire, to shut down this FBI investigation of these al Qaeda terrorists when Wilshire knew a huge al Qaeda attack was about to take place inside of the US that would kill thousands of Americans, and even knew Mihdhar and Hazmi were going to take part in this attack!

Corsi was aware by at least August 22, 2001 that the "Source" had identified Khallad at the Kuala Lumpur meeting and her boss Rod Middleton on August 30, 2001 when the CIA finally for the first time sent a cable to FBI HQ and Middleton with Khallad's photo from Kuala Lumpur and stating that Khallad had been positively identified at the Kuala Lumpur meeting with Mihdhar and Hazmi planning the Cole bombing.

All of these people keep this information completely secret from the FBI Cole bombing investigators. Corsi and Middleton, clearly acting under orders from Wilshire, shut down Bongardt’s investigation of Mihdhar and Hazmi with the excuse that the NSA information in Corsi’s EC had not been approved by the NSA for transfer to the Cole investigators when it had the day before. But since Corsi had admitted on August 29, 2001 in a email to Bongardt, that "if substantial evidence of a crime is found, by Mihdhar and Hazmi, this information will be passed over the wall," and she and Middleton already knew that Mihdhar and Hazmi had taken part in the planning of the Cole bombing, the NSA release was actually superfluous, and unnecessary. When she and Middleton shut down Bongardt’s investigation of Mihdhar and Hazmi, they, Wilshire, and the CIA and other FBI HQ managers directing their efforts, knew that this was going to result in the al Qaeda terrorists murdering thousands of Americans.

Bongardt and the American people were never made aware even after the attacks on 9/11 that Corsi had admitted to the DOJ IG investigators, on p 302 of the DOJ IG report, that she was aware by al least August 22, 2001 that the CIA had been hiding the photo of Khallad taken at Kuala Lumpur. She also was aware of the fact he had been positively identified with Mihdhar and Hazmi at that meeting planning the Cole bombing, and even knew that the CIA was hiding this photo so the FBI Cole investigators would never have the information they needed and were desperately searching for to start an investigation of Mihdhar and Hazmi. The FBI Cole investigators wanted to start an investigation and search for Mihdhar and Hazmi to prevent the attacks they were sure these terrorists were going to carry out inside of the US.

There is no way anyone can wash this away, with “the evidence is not compelling” or the “evidence does not convince me” when the evidence from the government’s own investigations and reports is now completely over whelming.