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| 30. So now the extreme left thinks Imperial Japan were the victims of the evil FDR. |
| -Pearl Harbor: A Successful War Lie |
davidswanson |
Dec-07-10 09:34 AM |
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K & R. Unfortunately, my rec only brought it back up to zero. |
Luminous Animal |
Dec-07-10 09:46 AM |
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American Presidents have been lying the US into wars |
unhappycamper |
Dec-07-10 09:46 AM |
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Another K&R brought the count back to zero. |
unhappycamper |
Dec-07-10 09:48 AM |
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It was +3 when I opened this post |
tnlurker |
Dec-07-10 10:04 AM |
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People don't appreciate pro-Imperial Japan propaganda. |
geek tragedy |
Dec-07-10 12:19 PM |
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Pearl Harbor was a military target. |
Ginto |
Dec-07-10 12:21 PM |
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Pearl Harbor was an act of aggression and a war crime. |
geek tragedy |
Dec-07-10 12:34 PM |
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Let's say I agree with you. |
Ginto |
Dec-07-10 12:45 PM |
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Have you addressed the Rape of Nanking? |
Old and In the Way |
Dec-05-11 01:43 PM |
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Delete - Dupe |
Old and In the Way |
Dec-05-11 02:40 PM |
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They were military targets |
ryan_cats |
Dec-07-10 05:07 PM |
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A close friend of my family was a captain of artillery on Corregidor. |
Ikonoklast |
Dec-07-10 07:37 PM |
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Don't forget about the drug war |
deconstruct911 |
Dec-07-10 04:02 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Dec-07-10 10:00 AM |
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no but you can pretend that if you like |
davidswanson |
Dec-07-10 10:08 AM |
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It is probably our most shameful war in just the sheer pride we take in it. |
Ginto |
Dec-07-10 10:08 AM |
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true |
davidswanson |
Dec-07-10 10:10 AM |
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absurdly simplistic |
cali |
Dec-07-10 12:06 PM |
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sigh, ultra libs |
BoneDaddy |
Dec-07-10 12:14 PM |
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And what is that supposed to mean? nt |
Ginto |
Dec-07-10 12:20 PM |
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It means that although |
BoneDaddy |
Dec-08-10 10:47 AM |
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THIS |
davidswanson |
Dec-07-10 03:04 PM |
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Probably thanking the guards as they got a boot in the face |
Confusious |
Dec-07-10 03:55 PM |
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Yes, I'm sure the millions of chinese the japanese killed feel the same way |
Confusious |
Dec-07-10 12:52 PM |
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Don't believe the hype that we went in there to "save" people. nt |
Ginto |
Dec-07-10 04:08 PM |
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They both invaded other countries, killed millions |
Confusious |
Dec-07-10 05:11 PM |
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Did I say we're the reason? nt |
Ginto |
Dec-07-10 05:13 PM |
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Well, you haven't said it |
Confusious |
Dec-07-10 05:16 PM |
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Actually |
BoneDaddy |
Dec-08-10 11:58 AM |
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Well gee, |
immune |
Dec-08-10 12:20 PM |
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once again |
zappaman |
Dec-08-10 12:40 PM |
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Cui bono? |
immune |
Dec-08-10 01:20 PM |
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my answer? |
zappaman |
Dec-08-10 01:25 PM |
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I do know |
immune |
Dec-08-10 02:01 PM |
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"I do know" |
zappaman |
Dec-08-10 02:07 PM |
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Maybe you should |
immune |
Dec-08-10 02:15 PM |
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Read a history book |
Confusious |
Dec-08-10 02:30 PM |
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Well see, |
immune |
Dec-08-10 04:20 PM |
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so, if I can follow your rambling nonsense... |
zappaman |
Dec-08-10 04:23 PM |
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How did the US profit? |
immune |
Dec-08-10 04:35 PM |
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why can't you answer a simple question? |
zappaman |
Dec-08-10 04:43 PM |
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No, it was never about prosperity for the US. |
immune |
Dec-08-10 04:54 PM |
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United States Citizens |
Confusious |
Dec-08-10 04:55 PM |
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you beat me to it! |
zappaman |
Dec-08-10 05:03 PM |
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I am very familiar with the propaganda push |
immune |
Dec-08-10 05:19 PM |
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Reduced to bashing FDR? Unrec and ESAD. |
FSogol |
Dec-07-10 10:01 AM |
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did you have some correction to offer |
davidswanson |
Dec-07-10 10:09 AM |
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Pearl Harbor was an act of military aggression and a war crime |
geek tragedy |
Dec-07-10 12:17 PM |
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+1 |
HuckleB |
Dec-07-10 12:21 PM |
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Unlike Hiroshima and Nagasaki. |
Ginto |
Dec-07-10 12:22 PM |
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Hiroshima was a military target |
Confusious |
Dec-07-10 12:53 PM |
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a city |
davidswanson |
Dec-07-10 03:07 PM |
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Any target that houses military factories or the military |
Confusious |
Dec-07-10 03:30 PM |
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Sounds like something Bush would say. Got to love the DLC types. nt |
Ginto |
Dec-07-10 04:05 PM |
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I think you missed the "geneva conventions" part. |
Confusious |
Dec-07-10 05:09 PM |
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Which ones? Obviously not the 4th convention. Neither did we. nt |
Ginto |
Dec-07-10 05:12 PM |
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We adhered to them more then they did |
Confusious |
Dec-07-10 05:15 PM |
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i see |
davidswanson |
Dec-07-10 09:57 PM |
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Wow, another person who gets it wrong |
Confusious |
Dec-07-10 10:17 PM |
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I've lived near a target almost all my life and probably, so have you. |
ryan_cats |
Dec-08-10 09:06 AM |
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that |
davidswanson |
Dec-07-10 03:05 PM |
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Yes, we tricked Japan |
Confusious |
Dec-08-10 03:24 PM |
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Good Post .....k&r |
BlueJac |
Dec-07-10 10:01 AM |
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We are a nation based on war crimes. nt. |
Ginto |
Dec-07-10 10:02 AM |
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Then why do you live here? |
BoneDaddy |
Dec-07-10 12:15 PM |
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So "love it or leave it?" |
Ginto |
Dec-07-10 12:25 PM |
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I am just wondering |
BoneDaddy |
Dec-07-10 12:46 PM |
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That's the same argument some use to discount racism and slavery. |
Ginto |
Dec-07-10 04:06 PM |
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Really? Haven't heard that |
Confusious |
Dec-07-10 05:18 PM |
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Not a justification or an agreement |
BoneDaddy |
Dec-08-10 10:42 AM |
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I stay because I love the country, not some flag, a government, or its lies and crimes. |
JackRiddler |
Dec-07-10 06:26 PM |
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Revisionist history ftw!...nt |
SidDithers |
Dec-07-10 10:02 AM |
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it certainly is. |
cali |
Dec-07-10 12:07 PM |
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+1 |
HuckleB |
Dec-07-10 12:18 PM |
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Nice ad for your book, but I think I'll pass on this one. |
MineralMan |
Dec-07-10 10:02 AM |
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thanks please do |
davidswanson |
Dec-07-10 10:11 AM |
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Not this shit again |
WilmywoodNCparalegal |
Dec-07-10 10:12 AM |
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Someone has to jump the shark again, every year. No? -eom- |
HuckleB |
Dec-07-10 12:29 PM |
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Rec'd. David, I've made room for you under the bus. Thanks n/t |
Catherina |
Dec-07-10 10:14 AM |
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We didn't call them repug talking points back then but they were |
jwirr |
Dec-07-10 10:18 AM |
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Yep--it's an old Republican campaign meme--Dewey used it in 1944. |
msanthrope |
Dec-07-10 12:26 PM |
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This is true. |
RC |
Dec-07-10 10:50 AM |
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Then why was the Empire of Japan planning for a Pacific war with the U.S. |
Ikonoklast |
Dec-07-10 11:19 AM |
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Why are we planning a war with Russia in the Baltics? |
Luminous Animal |
Dec-07-10 11:21 AM |
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Russia isn't currently building up its fleet. |
Ikonoklast |
Dec-07-10 11:24 AM |
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Because every country plans for war with every other country |
Confusious |
Dec-07-10 03:49 PM |
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instead of chanting slogans |
davidswanson |
Dec-07-10 12:03 PM |
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uh, that poster didn't chant a slogan- good revisionism there- |
cali |
Dec-07-10 12:10 PM |
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But we didn't bomb Tokyo Harbor. |
Ikonoklast |
Dec-07-10 12:15 PM |
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you know |
davidswanson |
Dec-07-10 03:10 PM |
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You know, the russian army would have had a much tougher time |
Confusious |
Dec-07-10 03:47 PM |
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I guess I needed the sarcasm smiley. |
Ikonoklast |
Dec-07-10 07:23 PM |
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Because china and russia were invaded |
Confusious |
Dec-07-10 03:58 PM |
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I found to many mistakes to count |
Confusious |
Dec-07-10 04:02 PM |
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Why did Japan invade China? |
geek tragedy |
Dec-07-10 12:20 PM |
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Because the poor Japanese were tricked into the war |
Confusious |
Dec-07-10 03:45 PM |
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So now the extreme left thinks Imperial Japan were the victims of the evil FDR. |
geek tragedy |
Dec-07-10 12:16 PM |
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And they want Obama to be more like FDR. |
Scurrilous |
Dec-07-10 12:17 PM |
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Oh, this is nothing |
WolverineDG |
Dec-07-10 12:49 PM |
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K & (believe it or not ) an R |
Desertrose |
Dec-07-10 12:17 PM |
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I doubt we'll ever know |
davidthegnome |
Dec-07-10 12:18 PM |
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Does your book come with illustrations? |
MilesColtrane |
Dec-07-10 12:43 PM |
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no but |
davidswanson |
Dec-07-10 03:11 PM |
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Thanks for this post! |
smiley |
Dec-07-10 12:54 PM |
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Bad form |
creon |
Dec-07-10 02:22 PM |
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It's an interesting take. |
Dappleganger |
Dec-07-10 02:28 PM |
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so war lies must last |
davidswanson |
Dec-07-10 03:12 PM |
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Hahaha, thank god this stupid shit got exiled to the 9/11 dungeon |
WildEyedLiberal |
Dec-07-10 02:28 PM |
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lol. and the dungeon is where this turd deserves to be. |
cali |
Dec-07-10 04:19 PM |
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A bunch of bullshit |
Confusious |
Dec-07-10 03:33 PM |
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Yes and no, David. |
JackRiddler |
Dec-07-10 06:50 PM |
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admitting the lies |
davidswanson |
Dec-07-10 10:08 PM |
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Deleted message |
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Dec-07-10 10:15 PM |
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Deleted message |
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Dec-07-10 11:56 PM |
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David: Why is it remarkable? |
JackRiddler |
Dec-07-10 11:55 PM |
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The military could have put Pearl Harbor on high alert |
spooked911 |
Dec-08-10 09:24 AM |
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Why put someone on high alert for no reason? |
Confusious |
Dec-08-10 03:15 PM |
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obviously you didn't read the OP |
spooked911 |
Dec-09-10 11:13 AM |
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Even if I read them |
Confusious |
Dec-09-10 03:23 PM |
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I'm not defending or excusing Japan |
spooked911 |
Dec-11-10 06:03 AM |
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days before pearl Harbor, the country was 50/50 split on whether to enter the war. |
Old and In the Way |
Dec-05-11 03:43 PM |
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to quote a longtime poster... |
zappaman |
Dec-08-10 04:09 PM |
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this is not a conspiracy theory |
spooked911 |
Dec-09-10 11:14 AM |
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It's another version of |
Confusious |
Dec-09-10 03:25 PM |
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did you read the original post? |
spooked911 |
Dec-11-10 06:00 AM |
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Good golly miss Molly this made the moonbat vault! |
obliviously |
Dec-07-10 07:23 PM |
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Reading your book now actually |
spooked911 |
Dec-08-10 09:26 AM |
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Kick... |
SidDithers |
Dec-05-11 12:28 AM |
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Dang,... |
MarianJack |
Dec-05-11 11:37 AM |
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Huh, I could have sworn this OP was just published. |
Old and In the Way |
Dec-05-11 03:47 PM |
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Correct. |
deconstruct911 |
Dec-05-11 03:54 PM |
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You know the old term, SSCDD |
MarianJack |
Dec-05-11 09:58 PM |
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