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Sun Oct-31-10 11:54 AM
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wore name tags and so do guys at conventions. coincidence?
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| -Mark Basile / Jeff Farrer |
k-robjoe |
Oct-27-10 08:32 AM |
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These guys are fools and/or liars |
whatchamacallit |
Oct-27-10 03:11 PM |
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You sure called that one Whatcha... |
whatchamacallit |
Oct-29-10 03:03 PM |
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Let's see that ATM article here first. |
Bolo Boffin |
Oct-29-10 05:55 PM |
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Your threshold is arbitrary, as prestige is no guarantor of fact or truth. |
whatchamacallit |
Oct-29-10 06:57 PM |
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You're confusing "prestige" with "competent" and "responsible" n/t |
Bolo Boffin |
Oct-29-10 07:24 PM |
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Jeff Farrer is one of the authors of the Thermitic vanity paper. |
Bolo Boffin |
Oct-28-10 02:03 AM |
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Published where? |
immune |
Oct-28-10 09:28 AM |
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Name removed |
Oct-28-10 10:14 AM |
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Deleted message |
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Oct-28-10 10:43 AM |
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The Journal of Engineering Mechanics. n/t |
Bolo Boffin |
Oct-28-10 11:58 AM |
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Publish or die, eh? |
immune |
Oct-28-10 12:37 PM |
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wtf? |
zappaman |
Oct-28-10 12:41 PM |
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Perhaps you could share with us where Mark Basile or Jeff Farrer got their doctorates? |
Bolo Boffin |
Oct-28-10 03:44 PM |
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Their credentials are |
immune |
Oct-28-10 03:53 PM |
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freely available? |
zappaman |
Oct-28-10 03:59 PM |
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I know where Dr. Bazant got his. |
Bolo Boffin |
Oct-28-10 04:51 PM |
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Are you Dr. Bazant? |
immune |
Oct-28-10 04:53 PM |
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No, but it's Dr. Bazant with articles in the Journal of Engineering Mechanics I'm citing. |
Bolo Boffin |
Oct-28-10 05:15 PM |
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I was about to offer my condolences if |
immune |
Oct-28-10 05:38 PM |
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That's funny. You mentioned James Gourley, who was only published in JEM |
Bolo Boffin |
Oct-28-10 05:44 PM |
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Please remember, I'm not the one who's |
immune |
Oct-28-10 06:05 PM |
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"it reeks of appeals to authority" BWA-HAHAHAHAHA! |
Bolo Boffin |
Oct-28-10 06:07 PM |
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Here's some western civilization humor for you |
immune |
Oct-28-10 06:22 PM |
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Does Dr. Hegwood have Basile's or Farrer's doctorate? n/t |
Bolo Boffin |
Oct-28-10 06:34 PM |
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Who the hell cares. |
immune |
Oct-28-10 07:07 PM |
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The Origins of Royalty |
zappaman |
Oct-28-10 07:11 PM |
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Read through that again and use your head. |
immune |
Oct-28-10 07:20 PM |
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yeah but |
zappaman |
Oct-28-10 07:35 PM |
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Yeah but |
immune |
Oct-28-10 07:41 PM |
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How to make a Gold Star Ways Quilt Pattern |
zappaman |
Oct-28-10 07:50 PM |
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My goodness, you don't seem to be able to stay on topic. |
Bolo Boffin |
Oct-28-10 10:00 PM |
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Okay, lets stay on topic. |
immune |
Oct-30-10 10:20 AM |
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Why JEM? |
Bolo Boffin |
Oct-31-10 01:05 AM |
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1 out of 8? |
immune |
Oct-31-10 10:04 AM |
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Does anyone know what... |
SDuderstadt |
Oct-31-10 10:08 AM |
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no |
zappaman |
Oct-31-10 10:23 AM |
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No, 8 out of 8. All answers to your questions on the review process are at the link. n/t |
Bolo Boffin |
Oct-31-10 11:07 AM |
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I asked "who" specifically. |
immune |
Oct-31-10 11:19 AM |
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Do you know that about the ATM Paper? n/t |
Bolo Boffin |
Oct-31-10 11:47 AM |
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Do you always |
immune |
Oct-31-10 12:37 PM |
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LOL |
zappaman |
Oct-31-10 12:42 PM |
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And you, |
immune |
Oct-31-10 12:50 PM |
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Fine, so you have a double standard for the ATM paper and the Bazant papers. |
Bolo Boffin |
Oct-31-10 12:48 PM |
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No, we'll simply have to agree that you cannot |
immune |
Oct-31-10 01:17 PM |
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"We do, of course, know that it was submitted to James Gourley for review." You know wrong. n/t |
Bolo Boffin |
Oct-31-10 06:27 PM |
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Hmmm. If you know that, |
immune |
Oct-31-10 07:19 PM |
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Your fucking idiotic claim. I'm calling Bullshit. Produce your evidence to back your claim. |
Bolo Boffin |
Oct-31-10 07:21 PM |
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You claimed I was wrong. |
immune |
Oct-31-10 07:24 PM |
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And so you are. Here's proof: |
Bolo Boffin |
Oct-31-10 07:32 PM |
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"Please stick to facts when you speak." |
zappaman |
Oct-31-10 07:34 PM |
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Oh, boy. n/t |
Bolo Boffin |
Oct-31-10 07:38 PM |
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And as it turned out, they were destined to be |
immune |
Oct-31-10 07:52 PM |
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wow |
zappaman |
Oct-31-10 07:57 PM |
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Okay, so who sent him the link? |
immune |
Oct-31-10 07:45 PM |
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Gourley doesn't say. But it obviously wasn't JEM. |
Bolo Boffin |
Oct-31-10 07:54 PM |
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Incoherent and random reply in... |
zappaman |
Oct-31-10 08:00 PM |
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It sounds like |
immune |
Oct-31-10 08:11 PM |
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You are confusing "speaking in an official way" with "able to read, reason, and write." |
Bolo Boffin |
Oct-31-10 08:26 PM |
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Okie dokie. |
immune |
Oct-31-10 08:49 PM |
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"I must've gotten lost again." |
zappaman |
Oct-31-10 08:55 PM |
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Bazant pulled the link. Now the only link is to the published paper. |
Bolo Boffin |
Oct-31-10 09:16 PM |
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Somehow I'm having difficulty connecting |
immune |
Oct-31-10 09:25 PM |
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"Obama Akbar" is mocking Tea Baggers who think liberals are all secret Muslims. |
Bolo Boffin |
Oct-31-10 09:35 PM |
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Actually, |
immune |
Oct-31-10 09:47 PM |
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Ah, so when I say that I was able to access it before it was published |
Bolo Boffin |
Oct-31-10 10:01 PM |
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How should I know if you could or couldn't |
immune |
Oct-31-10 10:17 PM |
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"goosies and ganders" |
zappaman |
Oct-31-10 10:19 PM |
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You could be gracious and civil and accept my word. n/t |
Bolo Boffin |
Oct-31-10 10:34 PM |
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Why would anyone blindly accept the word of Mr. Indian Lake "was yards away from the crash site"? |
Ghost in the Machine |
Nov-01-10 05:03 AM |
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Personally, if I were you, I'd be embarrassed to link to that thread. |
Bolo Boffin |
Nov-01-10 12:03 PM |
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Why should I be embarrassed about your mistakes? |
Ghost in the Machine |
Nov-01-10 02:05 PM |
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Between the people who misidentified paint chips as thermite and the guy who didn't check a title in |
Bolo Boffin |
Nov-01-10 02:15 PM |
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Nov-01-10 02:33 PM |
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No, no, no. You're in the construction industry and you perpetuated such a blatant falsehood? |
Bolo Boffin |
Nov-01-10 02:56 PM |
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And you were what? A cruise ship dancer? Have you ever even been on a construction site? |
Ghost in the Machine |
Nov-01-10 03:13 PM |
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No, I was not a cruise ship dancer. Another flatout falsehood you've stated. |
Bolo Boffin |
Nov-01-10 03:15 PM |
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Yeah, my bad... it was "actor"... |
Ghost in the Machine |
Nov-01-10 03:46 PM |
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Cease your personal obsession with me this instance. |
Bolo Boffin |
Nov-01-10 05:16 PM |
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The topic of this sub-thread is you wanting someone to "be gracious and civil and accept my word".. |
Ghost in the Machine |
Nov-01-10 06:17 PM |
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Holy Catfish, Andy!!! |
immune |
Nov-01-10 01:41 PM |
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It helps when you know what you're dealing with, doesn't it? |
Ghost in the Machine |
Nov-01-10 02:15 PM |
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I've certainly made my share of mistakes |
immune |
Nov-01-10 02:47 PM |
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Oh, t his raises cute to a whole new level. |
Bolo Boffin |
Nov-01-10 03:04 PM |
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you've made more than your share |
zappaman |
Nov-01-10 03:12 PM |
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You might try fact checking... |
SDuderstadt |
Nov-01-10 03:19 PM |
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After you say things like ... |
immune |
Nov-01-10 11:39 AM |
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And you have yet to answer the question why, if Gourley's review was accepted by JEM |
Bolo Boffin |
Nov-01-10 12:02 PM |
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Nov-01-10 01:25 PM |
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Maybe if you wouldn't make... |
SDuderstadt |
Nov-01-10 01:38 PM |
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You could actually look for it yourself, immune. That's one way to know. |
Make7 |
Oct-31-10 11:07 PM |
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Well, gee whiz. |
Bolo Boffin |
Oct-31-10 11:36 PM |
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Back to the drawing board |
immune |
Nov-01-10 01:01 PM |
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"leaked it"? There is no leaking here. |
Bolo Boffin |
Nov-01-10 01:57 PM |
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Without getting involved in this too much |
alcibiades_mystery |
Oct-31-10 11:40 PM |
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I have no doubt that |
immune |
Nov-01-10 11:23 AM |
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I guess I've not been following |
alcibiades_mystery |
Nov-01-10 11:35 AM |
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If a paper is released early by the author |
immune |
Nov-01-10 11:48 AM |
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It happens from time to time |
alcibiades_mystery |
Nov-01-10 12:02 PM |
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Little digs. Gotta love 'em. |
immune |
Nov-01-10 01:12 PM |
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I don't know about all that |
alcibiades_mystery |
Nov-01-10 03:23 PM |
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There's another reason you're missing. |
immune |
Nov-01-10 06:28 PM |
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That would certainly be a reason |
alcibiades_mystery |
Nov-01-10 07:03 PM |
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I hate redundancy, but |
immune |
Nov-01-10 07:57 PM |
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That's pretty thin |
alcibiades_mystery |
Nov-01-10 08:02 PM |
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No problem. |
immune |
Nov-01-10 08:38 PM |
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Yes, by all means, let's get back to the OP, where the people involved in writing the ATM paper |
Bolo Boffin |
Nov-02-10 11:48 AM |
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"tens of millions" |
zappaman |
Oct-31-10 06:31 PM |
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You realize that the... |
SDuderstadt |
Oct-31-10 12:50 PM |
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Yeah, sure. |
immune |
Oct-31-10 01:29 PM |
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Dude... |
SDuderstadt |
Oct-31-10 01:32 PM |
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Allegations? |
immune |
Oct-31-10 01:48 PM |
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Dude... |
SDuderstadt |
Oct-31-10 01:54 PM |
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And the standard you invoke |
immune |
Oct-31-10 02:56 PM |
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Dude... |
SDuderstadt |
Oct-31-10 03:01 PM |
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There is also video evidence |
immune |
Oct-31-10 03:35 PM |
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More of your absolute bullshit... |
SDuderstadt |
Oct-31-10 03:49 PM |
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heh |
zappaman |
Oct-31-10 03:53 PM |
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LOL, |
immune |
Oct-31-10 04:19 PM |
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So... |
SDuderstadt |
Oct-31-10 04:22 PM |
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Set enough examples |
immune |
Oct-31-10 04:36 PM |
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So, what were the names of those other... |
SDuderstadt |
Oct-31-10 04:47 PM |
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Do you dispute |
immune |
Oct-31-10 05:16 PM |
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So, what evidence do you have that Romwro was... |
SDuderstadt |
Oct-31-10 06:04 PM |
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What evidence do we have that |
immune |
Oct-31-10 06:14 PM |
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Name one prominent one... |
SDuderstadt |
Oct-31-10 08:44 PM |
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actually, it's the "regular every day people" |
zappaman |
Oct-31-10 05:00 PM |
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You must only know |
immune |
Oct-31-10 05:30 PM |
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wrong |
zappaman |
Oct-31-10 05:43 PM |
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Another smear from you... |
SDuderstadt |
Oct-31-10 06:06 PM |
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As someone else said just lately, |
immune |
Oct-31-10 07:01 PM |
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Dude... |
SDuderstadt |
Oct-31-10 07:11 PM |
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Can't you tell the difference |
immune |
Oct-31-10 07:21 PM |
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WTF are you babbling about... |
SDuderstadt |
Oct-31-10 08:59 PM |
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exactly |
zappaman |
Oct-31-10 02:23 PM |
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candy stripers |
zappaman |
Oct-31-10 11:54 AM |
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Good lord.. |
KDLarsen |
Oct-29-10 11:47 AM |
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Yes, he's Swedish, But stop criticizing his findings and, |
immune |
Oct-29-10 12:20 PM |
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Only 10,000 euro? |
KDLarsen |
Oct-30-10 03:09 AM |
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You've found your life's goal. |
immune |
Oct-30-10 10:40 AM |
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I have no idea what you're talking about |
KDLarsen |
Oct-30-10 11:02 AM |
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That's funny. |
immune |
Oct-30-10 11:22 AM |
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Dude... |
SDuderstadt |
Oct-30-10 11:26 AM |
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you totally defeated him! |
zappaman |
Oct-30-10 11:54 AM |
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Did you watch the videos? |
Sancho |
Nov-01-10 12:38 AM |
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Thank you! |
Bolo Boffin |
Nov-01-10 01:09 AM |
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I think there is an explanation... |
Sancho |
Nov-01-10 05:31 AM |
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"identifying the compounds was not the issue" |
Bolo Boffin |
Nov-01-10 12:05 PM |
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You don't have a case. |
immune |
Nov-01-10 02:27 PM |
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That's correct..the elements and compounds are not the issue.. |
Sancho |
Nov-01-10 10:20 PM |
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"the material found was reactive to create high temperatures consistent with thermite" |
Bolo Boffin |
Nov-01-10 10:36 PM |
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and you make the point..as they do in the video... |
Sancho |
Nov-02-10 04:14 AM |
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What about the French 9/11 Truth advocate that couldn't confirm thermite... |
Bolo Boffin |
Nov-02-10 11:43 AM |
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exactly - you make the point that is discussed in the videos.. |
Sancho |
Nov-04-10 01:14 AM |
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Glad to see these reinforcements speaking up |
tetedur |
Oct-28-10 10:32 PM |
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"settle the issue once and for all" |
Bolo Boffin |
Oct-28-10 11:43 PM |
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"It is settled." Really? |
tetedur |
Oct-29-10 08:11 AM |
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Serious question... |
SDuderstadt |
Oct-29-10 09:38 AM |
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According to the paper "Active Thermitic Material", |
tetedur |
Oct-29-10 10:25 AM |
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Do you not see the problem with that? |
SDuderstadt |
Oct-29-10 10:29 AM |
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No peer-reviewed refutation of ATM is needed, since IT isn't peer-reviewed. |
Bolo Boffin |
Oct-29-10 11:42 AM |
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"IT isn't peer-reviewed." What is your proof of that assertion? |
tetedur |
Oct-29-10 02:45 PM |
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The ATM paper been published in something beside the Benthem vanity press? Do share. |
Bolo Boffin |
Oct-29-10 05:52 PM |
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For me the importance of the "Active Thermitic Material" paper |
tetedur |
Oct-29-10 08:04 PM |
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the content and its conclusion |
LARED |
Oct-29-10 08:34 PM |
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If what the ATM paper said was important and crucial, getting it published at JCP would be easy. |
Bolo Boffin |
Oct-30-10 02:42 AM |
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Look at AIP's Director's page and check out their funding sources |
mrarundale |
Oct-31-10 02:22 AM |
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I don't know if the dust samples will ever be conclusive.. |
Sancho |
Nov-01-10 12:29 AM |
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Thanks for the pertinent post. |
tetedur |
Nov-01-10 07:49 PM |
#159 |