John Doe II
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Thu Feb-03-05 02:18 AM
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Speed is not important. The white plane came from the east. The official UA 93 from the west. So the white plane wasn't chasing UA 93 but had an interesting meeting with UA 93... Moreover every shoot down scenario of UA 93 can't have happened on the west of the crash site. There where UA 93 flew officially and was seen bu many eyewitnesses. But nobody saw a white jet there. Nobody saw a shoot down and especially all debris that was raining down from the sky was EAST of the crash site. So if something was shot down it CAN'T have been the plane cominig in from the west that everybody assumes to have been UA 93. Then we would have two planes: The official UA 93 from the west and an unknown plane coming from the east that was shot down by the white plane. One plane destroyed and one plane .... vanished. This is the only possible scenario of a shoot down. And it immediately proves forknowledge and coordination that can't have been from our 19 hijackers .....
So, what everybody needs to understand. The typical excuse that well the US was forced to shoot down UA 93 and of course covered it up afterwards it simplpy isn't possible.
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John Doe II |
Jan-08-05 10:52 AM |
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Great job! Doesn't this fit with the idea that flight 93 was shot down? |
spooked911 |
Jan-08-05 11:03 AM |
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Thanks! |
John Doe II |
Jan-09-05 03:00 PM |
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This evidence appears to imply a plane from the east was shot down |
philb |
Nov-17-05 10:55 PM |
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I haven't read the whole thing yet, but two points |
IanDB1 |
Jan-08-05 11:20 AM |
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Your most important point is the best I've ever heard it put |
boloboffin |
Jan-08-05 04:29 PM |
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Your points |
John Doe II |
Jan-09-05 01:17 PM |
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Sounds like what the perps did at the Pentagon - using extra planes to... |
Abe Linkman |
Jan-09-05 01:53 PM |
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The government had no desire |
DoYouEverWonder |
Jul-04-05 08:37 AM |
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It is not that clear at all what would be in this Govt's interest. |
tngledwebb |
Jan-11-05 11:28 AM |
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Lawsuit |
Kevin Fenton |
Jul-05-05 07:33 AM |
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Very pertinent point in this discussion. |
Old and In the Way |
Jan-28-06 12:58 PM |
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Where in the world did you find this information, very eye opening |
GetTheRightVote |
Jan-08-05 11:32 AM |
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It took some time ...! |
John Doe II |
Jan-09-05 01:34 PM |
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Loud bang and then plane plunged; was the bang a missile hitting? |
philb |
Nov-18-05 06:27 PM |
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If Shepley & Purbaugh are believed; the plane from NW hit the crash site |
philb |
Nov-18-05 06:33 PM |
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WOW - this is long, but WOW! |
skylarmae |
Jan-08-05 11:34 AM |
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if flight93 was shot down, it would destroy their carefully crafted |
spooked911 |
Jan-08-05 02:11 PM |
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As for why not claim the shooting down of UA93 |
NV Whino |
Jan-08-05 01:10 PM |
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Superb work - a couple of questions |
mikelewis |
Jan-08-05 05:27 PM |
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Good questions-- and this is what most 9/11 researchers have been trying |
spooked911 |
Jan-08-05 09:24 PM |
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You seem to know me |
John Doe II |
Jan-09-05 01:40 PM |
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Were 93, 175,11, and 77 involved in those exercises? |
Old and In the Way |
Jan-28-06 01:13 PM |
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We do know. They weren't. |
MercutioATC |
Jan-28-06 02:28 PM |
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I'll try some answers |
John Doe II |
Jan-09-05 02:18 PM |
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What do you think about the plane from the East & debris at Indian Lake & |
philb |
Nov-20-05 08:49 PM |
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This is a very good question |
Andre II |
Aug-24-06 03:16 AM |
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edit: I regret contributing to the bump - self delete. nt |
greyl |
Aug-24-06 04:07 AM |
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The New Baltimore story was just an erroneuse report. |
planeman |
Aug-24-06 08:37 AM |
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Why do you think |
Andre II |
Aug-26-06 09:15 AM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jan-08-05 05:30 PM |
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That's a good piece-- thanks! |
spooked911 |
Jan-08-05 09:19 PM |
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Not all conspiracies are true, and not all conspiracies are false |
IanDB1 |
Jan-09-05 09:47 AM |
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After you read the article, you'll be better able to know which is which. |
Abe Linkman |
Jan-09-05 10:25 AM |
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No conspiracy theories? |
Make7 |
Jan-09-05 12:29 PM |
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Good job, Make7! |
Ifonly |
Jan-10-05 10:41 PM |
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Absolutely brillliant - as usual! nT |
woody b |
Jan-09-05 04:42 PM |
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Great |
John Doe II |
Jan-10-05 11:55 AM |
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Is it possible that the plane coming from the east... |
mikelewis |
Jan-10-05 05:12 PM |
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yes-- makes sense to me. |
spooked911 |
Jan-13-05 09:17 AM |
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I've heard about the switch plane theory but then what happened to |
meppie-meppie not |
Jan-17-05 03:32 PM |
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That's the catch, isn't it? |
spooked911 |
Jan-17-05 03:59 PM |
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One thing that we DO know. |
Abe Linkman |
Jan-17-05 04:35 PM |
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when you people refer to the OCT are you referring to the one |
meppie-meppie not |
Jan-17-05 05:18 PM |
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I'm about 1/2 way through "The Puzzle Palace" (the NSA) and I'm |
meppie-meppie not |
Jan-17-05 05:15 PM |
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Would you feel more comfortable just believing what unca gdub tells you? |
Abe Linkman |
Jan-17-05 05:45 PM |
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until I get ALL the answers that satisfy me, until there is a real |
meppie-meppie not |
Jan-17-05 06:10 PM |
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Dear OTCler! |
John Doe II |
Jan-11-05 12:43 PM |
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forgive me for a stupid question... |
meppie-meppie not |
Jan-17-05 03:34 PM |
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Official Conspiracy Theorist (I think) |
spooked911 |
Jan-17-05 04:00 PM |
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thanks spooked! I'll get the lingo eventually :-) n/t |
meppie-meppie not |
Jan-17-05 05:02 PM |
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Re part 1. The commission report agrees with the eyewitness reports. |
gbwarming |
Jan-11-05 11:02 PM |
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Thanks very much |
John Doe II |
Jan-13-05 08:48 AM |
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You're very polite, Thank you. |
gbwarming |
Jan-14-05 12:27 AM |
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Do you have any questions at all about the official story? |
tngledwebb |
Jan-14-05 05:18 AM |
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Some answers |
John Doe II |
Jan-14-05 02:31 PM |
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Doubting the wind ... |
John Doe II |
Jan-18-05 03:56 PM |
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Enjoy the silence! |
John Doe II |
Jan-23-05 03:08 PM |
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Donald Rumsfeld told us |
Last Lemming |
Jan-23-05 03:44 PM |
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Second part out |
John Doe II |
Jan-30-05 12:10 PM |
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The two distinct white jets theme is interesting. |
exploited |
Jan-31-05 02:34 PM |
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FWIW, the 911 report contradicts the FBI Falcon 20 claim |
exploited |
Feb-01-05 10:34 AM |
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Thanks a lot for all your info! |
John Doe II |
Feb-01-05 03:07 PM |
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Maybe the waving of wings was for another reason. |
exploited |
Feb-02-05 09:17 AM |
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One more thing |
exploited |
Feb-02-05 04:57 AM |
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Have you EVER heard of an A-10 being used as an air to air weapon? |
MercutioATC |
Feb-02-05 06:23 AM |
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I agree |
exploited |
Feb-02-05 09:01 AM |
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I have issues with an A-10 being used. |
MercutioATC |
Feb-02-05 09:20 AM |
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You could be right |
exploited |
Feb-02-05 11:15 AM |
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Speed |
John Doe II |
Feb-03-05 02:18 AM |
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Seems I'm not the only one to suggest the A-10 |
exploited |
Feb-02-05 08:20 PM |
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Airports |
John Doe II |
Feb-03-05 02:21 AM |
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They have a bunch of A-10s at Willow Grove, PA. Just set an |
stickdog |
Jan-28-06 05:25 AM |
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One thing you have to admit... |
jschurchin |
Jan-28-06 08:47 AM |
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Not only that, the A-10 is SLOW. |
MercutioATC |
Jan-28-06 02:29 PM |
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Some of the witnesses shown pictures of options chose Swedish SAAB |
philb |
Jul-04-05 07:05 PM |
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I thought that the witnesses confirmed jet was a swedish fighter |
philb |
Nov-17-05 11:07 PM |
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White plane |
John Doe II |
Feb-27-05 11:55 AM |
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One thought I had was the white plane clearly wasn't |
spooked911 |
Feb-27-05 05:34 PM |
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The C130 was an electronic warfare plane that had ability to bring down |
philb |
Nov-17-05 11:11 PM |
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Nonsense |
hack89 |
Nov-19-05 10:58 AM |
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I posted what I've seen said about the C130 |
philb |
Nov-19-05 04:26 PM |
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There is no ability to jam aircraft flight controls |
hack89 |
Nov-19-05 06:21 PM |
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White plane theory |
rs3787 |
Jul-04-05 04:51 AM |
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welcome to DU!!! And good post! |
spooked911 |
Jul-04-05 09:05 AM |
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Shot down |
Zaphod 36 |
Jul-04-05 01:51 PM |
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One missile |
DoYouEverWonder |
Jul-04-05 05:26 PM |
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Could the 'white plane' |
DoYouEverWonder |
Jul-04-05 05:24 PM |
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Response to questions: |
rs3787 |
Jul-05-05 05:46 AM |
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Thanks a lot |
John Doe II |
Jul-05-05 09:11 AM |
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Crater and flight path |
rs3787 |
Jul-06-05 10:55 AM |
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Good explanition, but |
Zaphod 36 |
Jul-08-05 06:26 AM |
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Indian Lake |
John Doe II |
Jul-05-05 12:34 PM |
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Indian Lake info |
rs3787 |
Jul-06-05 09:16 AM |
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Thanks for the info! |
John Doe II |
Jul-06-05 11:41 AM |
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Second debris field at Indian Lake 4-8 miles away & jet sounds overhead |
philb |
Nov-18-05 08:32 PM |
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Actually at least 3 separate debris fields in different areas/directions |
philb |
Nov-18-05 08:52 PM |
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More questions |
Zaphod 36 |
Jul-05-05 01:22 PM |
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Re more qustions |
rs3787 |
Jul-07-05 07:14 AM |
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This statement is very confusing to me? |
philb |
Nov-18-05 06:05 PM |
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I think you mean a remote controlled plane rigged with a bomb |
philb |
Nov-17-05 11:32 PM |
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UK radio broadcast |
extrak |
Nov-17-05 08:43 PM |
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Probably because it was a commercial airliner |
Tab |
Nov-17-05 09:26 PM |
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Questions about 93 |
petgoat |
Nov-18-05 01:28 AM |
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This was the FIFTH PLANE... |
woody b |
Nov-19-05 03:51 PM |
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Wind direction facts on 9/11 document official story was bogus |
philb |
Nov-19-05 08:40 AM |
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A one plane scenario consistent with the debris fields |
philb |
Nov-19-05 10:02 AM |
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Problem is |
Andre II |
Apr-08-07 05:24 PM |
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The Neocon Flying Circus! |
MrSammo1 |
Nov-21-05 03:37 AM |
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Is there URL for a site that summerizes your information posted here? |
philb |
Dec-04-05 10:12 AM |
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Locking |
Lithos |
Apr-08-07 05:27 PM |
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