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John Doe II Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 02:18 AM
Response to Reply #55
57. Speed
Speed is not important.
The white plane came from the east. The official UA 93 from the west. So the white plane wasn't chasing UA 93 but had an interesting meeting with UA 93...
Moreover every shoot down scenario of UA 93 can't have happened on the west of the crash site. There where UA 93 flew officially and was seen bu many eyewitnesses. But nobody saw a white jet there. Nobody saw a shoot down and especially all debris that was raining down from the sky was EAST of the crash site. So if something was shot down it CAN'T have been the plane cominig in from the west that everybody assumes to have been UA 93. Then we would have two planes: The official UA 93 from the west and an unknown plane coming from the east that was shot down by the white plane. One plane destroyed and one plane .... vanished. This is the only possible scenario of a shoot down. And it immediately proves forknowledge and coordination that can't have been from our 19 hijackers .....

So, what everybody needs to understand. The typical excuse that well the US was forced to shoot down UA 93 and of course covered it up afterwards it simplpy isn't possible.
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  -... and kiss the official UA 93 theory good-bye! John Doe II  Jan-08-05 10:52 AM   #0 
  - Great job! Doesn't this fit with the idea that flight 93 was shot down?  spooked911   Jan-08-05 11:03 AM   #1 
  - Thanks!  John Doe II   Jan-09-05 03:00 PM   #20 
  - This evidence appears to imply a plane from the east was shot down  philb   Nov-17-05 10:55 PM   #80 
  - I haven't read the whole thing yet, but two points  IanDB1   Jan-08-05 11:20 AM   #2 
  - Your most important point is the best I've ever heard it put  boloboffin   Jan-08-05 04:29 PM   #7 
  - Your points  John Doe II   Jan-09-05 01:17 PM   #15 
  - Sounds like what the perps did at the Pentagon - using extra planes to...  Abe Linkman   Jan-09-05 01:53 PM   #18 
  - The government had no desire  DoYouEverWonder   Jul-04-05 08:37 AM   #62 
  - It is not that clear at all what would be in this Govt's interest.  tngledwebb   Jan-11-05 11:28 AM   #25 
  - Lawsuit  Kevin Fenton   Jul-05-05 07:33 AM   #69 
  - Very pertinent point in this discussion.  Old and In the Way   Jan-28-06 12:58 PM   #101 
  - Where in the world did you find this information, very eye opening  GetTheRightVote   Jan-08-05 11:32 AM   #3 
  - It took some time ...!  John Doe II   Jan-09-05 01:34 PM   #16 
     - Loud bang and then plane plunged; was the bang a missile hitting?  philb   Nov-18-05 06:27 PM   #86 
        - If Shepley & Purbaugh are believed; the plane from NW hit the crash site  philb   Nov-18-05 06:33 PM   #87 
  - WOW - this is long, but WOW!  skylarmae   Jan-08-05 11:34 AM   #4 
  - if flight93 was shot down, it would destroy their carefully crafted  spooked911   Jan-08-05 02:11 PM   #6 
  - As for why not claim the shooting down of UA93  NV Whino   Jan-08-05 01:10 PM   #5 
  - Superb work - a couple of questions  mikelewis   Jan-08-05 05:27 PM   #8 
  - Good questions-- and this is what most 9/11 researchers have been trying  spooked911   Jan-08-05 09:24 PM   #11 
  - You seem to know me  John Doe II   Jan-09-05 01:40 PM   #17 
  - Were 93, 175,11, and 77 involved in those exercises?  Old and In the Way   Jan-28-06 01:13 PM   #102 
     - We do know. They weren't.  MercutioATC   Jan-28-06 02:28 PM   #103 
  - I'll try some answers  John Doe II   Jan-09-05 02:18 PM   #19 
     - What do you think about the plane from the East & debris at Indian Lake &  philb   Nov-20-05 08:49 PM   #96 
        - This is a very good question  Andre II   Aug-24-06 03:16 AM   #105 
           - edit: I regret contributing to the bump - self delete. nt  greyl   Aug-24-06 04:07 AM   #106 
           - The New Baltimore story was just an erroneuse report.  planeman   Aug-24-06 08:37 AM   #107 
              - Why do you think  Andre II   Aug-26-06 09:15 AM   #108 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-08-05 05:30 PM   #9 
  - That's a good piece-- thanks!  spooked911   Jan-08-05 09:19 PM   #10 
  - Not all conspiracies are true, and not all conspiracies are false  IanDB1   Jan-09-05 09:47 AM   #12 
     - After you read the article, you'll be better able to know which is which.  Abe Linkman   Jan-09-05 10:25 AM   #13 
  - No conspiracy theories?  Make7   Jan-09-05 12:29 PM   #14 
     - Good job, Make7!  Ifonly   Jan-10-05 10:41 PM   #24 
  - Absolutely brillliant - as usual! nT  woody b   Jan-09-05 04:42 PM   #21 
  - Great  John Doe II   Jan-10-05 11:55 AM   #22 
  - Is it possible that the plane coming from the east...  mikelewis   Jan-10-05 05:12 PM   #23 
  - yes-- makes sense to me.  spooked911   Jan-13-05 09:17 AM   #29 
     - I've heard about the switch plane theory but then what happened to  meppie-meppie not   Jan-17-05 03:32 PM   #33 
        - That's the catch, isn't it?  spooked911   Jan-17-05 03:59 PM   #35 
           - One thing that we DO know.  Abe Linkman   Jan-17-05 04:35 PM   #37 
           - when you people refer to the OCT are you referring to the one  meppie-meppie not   Jan-17-05 05:18 PM   #40 
           - I'm about 1/2 way through "The Puzzle Palace" (the NSA) and I'm  meppie-meppie not   Jan-17-05 05:15 PM   #39 
              - Would you feel more comfortable just believing what unca gdub tells you?  Abe Linkman   Jan-17-05 05:45 PM   #41 
                 - until I get ALL the answers that satisfy me, until there is a real  meppie-meppie not   Jan-17-05 06:10 PM   #42 
  - Dear OTCler!  John Doe II   Jan-11-05 12:43 PM   #26 
  - forgive me for a stupid question...  meppie-meppie not   Jan-17-05 03:34 PM   #34 
     - Official Conspiracy Theorist (I think)  spooked911   Jan-17-05 04:00 PM   #36 
        - thanks spooked! I'll get the lingo eventually :-) n/t  meppie-meppie not   Jan-17-05 05:02 PM   #38 
  - Re part 1. The commission report agrees with the eyewitness reports.  gbwarming   Jan-11-05 11:02 PM   #27 
  - Thanks very much  John Doe II   Jan-13-05 08:48 AM   #28 
     - You're very polite, Thank you.  gbwarming   Jan-14-05 12:27 AM   #30 
        - Do you have any questions at all about the official story?  tngledwebb   Jan-14-05 05:18 AM   #31 
        - Some answers  John Doe II   Jan-14-05 02:31 PM   #32 
  - Doubting the wind ...  John Doe II   Jan-18-05 03:56 PM   #43 
  - Enjoy the silence!  John Doe II   Jan-23-05 03:08 PM   #44 
  - Donald Rumsfeld told us  Last Lemming   Jan-23-05 03:44 PM   #45 
  - Second part out  John Doe II   Jan-30-05 12:10 PM   #46 
  - The two distinct white jets theme is interesting.  exploited   Jan-31-05 02:34 PM   #47 
  - FWIW, the 911 report contradicts the FBI Falcon 20 claim  exploited   Feb-01-05 10:34 AM   #48 
  - Thanks a lot for all your info!  John Doe II   Feb-01-05 03:07 PM   #49 
  - Maybe the waving of wings was for another reason.  exploited   Feb-02-05 09:17 AM   #53 
  - One more thing  exploited   Feb-02-05 04:57 AM   #50 
     - Have you EVER heard of an A-10 being used as an air to air weapon?  MercutioATC   Feb-02-05 06:23 AM   #51 
        - I agree  exploited   Feb-02-05 09:01 AM   #52 
        - I have issues with an A-10 being used.  MercutioATC   Feb-02-05 09:20 AM   #54 
           - You could be right  exploited   Feb-02-05 11:15 AM   #55 
           - Speed  John Doe II   Feb-03-05 02:18 AM   #57 
           - Seems I'm not the only one to suggest the A-10  exploited   Feb-02-05 08:20 PM   #56 
           - Airports  John Doe II   Feb-03-05 02:21 AM   #58 
           - They have a bunch of A-10s at Willow Grove, PA. Just set an  stickdog   Jan-28-06 05:25 AM   #99 
              - One thing you have to admit...  jschurchin   Jan-28-06 08:47 AM   #100 
                 - Not only that, the A-10 is SLOW.  MercutioATC   Jan-28-06 02:29 PM   #104 
        - Some of the witnesses shown pictures of options chose Swedish SAAB  philb   Jul-04-05 07:05 PM   #67 
        - I thought that the witnesses confirmed jet was a swedish fighter  philb   Nov-17-05 11:07 PM   #81 
  - White plane  John Doe II   Feb-27-05 11:55 AM   #59 
  - One thought I had was the white plane clearly wasn't  spooked911   Feb-27-05 05:34 PM   #60 
  - The C130 was an electronic warfare plane that had ability to bring down  philb   Nov-17-05 11:11 PM   #82 
     - Nonsense  hack89   Nov-19-05 10:58 AM   #92 
        - I posted what I've seen said about the C130  philb   Nov-19-05 04:26 PM   #94 
           - There is no ability to jam aircraft flight controls  hack89   Nov-19-05 06:21 PM   #95 
  - White plane theory  rs3787   Jul-04-05 04:51 AM   #61 
     - welcome to DU!!! And good post!  spooked911   Jul-04-05 09:05 AM   #63 
     - Shot down  Zaphod 36   Jul-04-05 01:51 PM   #64 
        - One missile  DoYouEverWonder   Jul-04-05 05:26 PM   #66 
  - Could the 'white plane'  DoYouEverWonder   Jul-04-05 05:24 PM   #65 
  - Response to questions:  rs3787   Jul-05-05 05:46 AM   #68 
  - Thanks a lot  John Doe II   Jul-05-05 09:11 AM   #70 
  - Crater and flight path  rs3787   Jul-06-05 10:55 AM   #74 
     - Good explanition, but  Zaphod 36   Jul-08-05 06:26 AM   #77 
  - Indian Lake  John Doe II   Jul-05-05 12:34 PM   #71 
  - Indian Lake info  rs3787   Jul-06-05 09:16 AM   #73 
  - Thanks for the info!  John Doe II   Jul-06-05 11:41 AM   #75 
  - Second debris field at Indian Lake 4-8 miles away & jet sounds overhead  philb   Nov-18-05 08:32 PM   #88 
     - Actually at least 3 separate debris fields in different areas/directions  philb   Nov-18-05 08:52 PM   #89 
  - More questions  Zaphod 36   Jul-05-05 01:22 PM   #72 
  - Re more qustions  rs3787   Jul-07-05 07:14 AM   #76 
  - This statement is very confusing to me?  philb   Nov-18-05 06:05 PM   #85 
  - I think you mean a remote controlled plane rigged with a bomb  philb   Nov-17-05 11:32 PM   #83 
  - UK radio broadcast  extrak   Nov-17-05 08:43 PM   #78 
  - Probably because it was a commercial airliner  Tab   Nov-17-05 09:26 PM   #79 
  - Questions about 93  petgoat   Nov-18-05 01:28 AM   #84 
  - This was the FIFTH PLANE...  woody b   Nov-19-05 03:51 PM   #93 
  - Wind direction facts on 9/11 document official story was bogus  philb   Nov-19-05 08:40 AM   #90 
  - A one plane scenario consistent with the debris fields  philb   Nov-19-05 10:02 AM   #91 
     - Problem is  Andre II   Apr-08-07 05:24 PM   #109 
  - The Neocon Flying Circus!  MrSammo1   Nov-21-05 03:37 AM   #97 
  - Is there URL for a site that summerizes your information posted here?  philb   Dec-04-05 10:12 AM   #98 
  - Locking  Lithos   Apr-08-07 05:27 PM   #110 
 

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