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RFK must die: The Assassination of Bobby Kennedy- documentary
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For those in the states who have not seen this you can watch on line for free.
This documentary has been shown on TV in Europe. I just watched it and all I can say is WOW.

From Amazon comment section the doc is given 4 stars

This review is from: RFK Must Die: The Assassination of Bobby Kennedy (DVD)
Shane O'Sullivan has done a fine job here. This is a fascinating look at the world of the LAPD such as it was in the sixties. Listen and you will hear of witnesses being pressured by LAPD investigators to change their stories to conform to the official version of events, that Sirhan acted alone. It is possible that certain CIA officials were present that night. Intriguing photographic evidence and eye witness testimony is introduced on that score, and the viewer is left to draw his or her own conclusions. Ed Lopez, a former congressional investigator gives a positive i.d. of George Joannides, a now dead CIA official who was heavily involved with the Cuban exiles. CIA's stern refusal to provide any information on Joannides hardly helps its case before the general public. Wayne Smith, a diplomat under JFK knew David Morales well and gives a positive i.d. of him. The interview with Rocky Carbajal a rough hewn lifelong pal of David Morales, is quite interesting. Carbajal does not believe Morales was at the Ambassador Hotel that night, but he is certain Morales was involved in the murder of JFK. Carbajal believes the murders of both Kennedy brothers were CIA operations. Included also are tapes of Sirhan's hypnosis session which is very eery to listen to. The LAPD destroyed evidence in the case and many documents, leaving the viewer with little confidence in the official story. But O'Sullivan may have opened a door towards the truth, though it may now be too late to get the whole story.
A new development is being announced in this case. This was posted at
" Scientific Audio Evidence

Reveals Second Gunman in RFK Assassination

In 2004 the only known audio tape of the RFK assassination was discovered stored in the California State Archives in Sacramento, CA by an investigative journalist. Recorded by independent journalist Stanislaw Pruszynski, it is the only known audio recording that contains the actual shots fired during the shooting on June 5, 1968 in Los Angeles.

Three years ago, Philip Van Praag, an expert in the forensic analysis of magnetic media recordings, began studying the audio tape with startling results; the tape revealed between 10 and 13 shots fired. The presence of 10 shots is highly significant because Sirhan's handgun could fire no more than eight shots without reloading. Additionally, two of the shots occured so close together that they could not have been fired by the same gunman; strong evidence of a second gun being fired by someone other than Sirhan.

Van Praag will present his unique scientific testing methods and results at 4:00pm on February 21st at the American Academy of Forensic Scientists (AAFS) meeting in Washington DC. His presentation is entitled "Acoustic Analysis of Gunshot Recordings Utilizing Frequency Selective Integrated Loudness Envelope Evaluation". AAFS is the world's most prestigious forensic science organization. As a professional society dedicated to the application of science to the law, the AAFS is committed to the promotion of education and the elevation of accuracy, precision, and specificity in the forensic sciences.

Phil Van Praag's involvement in the audio field has spanned the past 45 years, with forensic analysis of magnetic media recordings included over 35 of those years. The context of his involvement in the field has been embodied both within his professional career and as a result of ongoing independent study. In that regard, he has maintained a substantial laboratory facility with considerable scientific instrumentation with which to conduct his research.

Possessing a Master of Science degree in Engineering (Electrical), Van Praag's professional employment background has included, most recently, a position of Vice President of Information Technology (IT) for the American Heart Association. Prior to that, he was the Chief Information Officer & Vice President of IT for Applied Power, Inc. He had previously worked as a Director of Information Systems at R.R. Donnelley & Sons Co., and the Technical Head of Automated Data Management at Hughes Aircraft Co. He has also held engineering related positions at Ampex Corporation as a Senior Instructor in their Professional Audio/Video Systems division, and in technical laboratory work at Bell Telephone Laboratories, Sandia National Laboratories, and IBM."

From IMDB .... the movie data base /

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RFK Must Die: The Assassination of Bobby Kennedy (2007) More at IMDbPro

A new investigative documentary exploring the controversies surrounding the assassination of Bobby Kennedy on June 5, 1968 as he looked set to challenge Nixon for the White House. Munir Sirhan tells how his brother Sirhan has never been able to remember the shooting. Sandra Serrano speaks for the first time in forty years about the girl in the polka-dot dress fleeing the scene, yelling "We shot him! We shot him!" And Dr. Herbert Spiegel of Columbia University describes how Sirhan was hypnotically programmed to kill Robert Kennedy


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  -RFK must die: The Assassination of Bobby Kennedy- documentary Ichingcarpenter  Apr-11-10 09:06 AM   #0 
  - K and R for the thread  the other one   Apr-11-10 09:25 AM   #1 
  - The first part  Ichingcarpenter   Apr-11-10 09:31 AM   #2 
  - I like the way the maker of this film introduces counter evidence  EFerrari   Apr-14-10 02:25 PM   #62 
  - Do you know about the book...  AntiFascist   May-30-11 03:01 PM   #117 
  - k/r  Echo In Light   Apr-11-10 09:32 AM   #3 
  - CIA Director Richard Helms'  Ichingcarpenter   Apr-11-10 09:41 AM   #5 
     - Sirhan's post-hypnotic suggestion displayed by Michael Wayne  MinM   Apr-14-10 09:20 PM   #65 
        - April 16, 1943: Worlds First Acid Trip  MinM   Apr-16-10 02:38 PM   #70 
        - Sirhan Sirhan: I was brainwashed' into killing  MinM   Mar-27-11 04:57 PM   #115 
           - Sander and Sandy  MinM   May-30-11 01:20 PM   #116 
           - "RFK Assassination: Another U.S. Govt. Cover Up"  k-robjoe   Jun-09-11 03:25 PM   #121 
           - RFK Assassination: Multiple Shooters  MinM   Jun-10-11 05:54 PM   #122 
           - Convicted RFK assassin Sirhan Sirhan seeks prison release  MinM   Nov-29-11 07:02 PM   #136 
  - They laughed at us all when they finally destroyed RFK and MLK. They knew they had beaten us.  Selatius   Apr-11-10 09:40 AM   #4 
  - +1  musette_sf   Apr-11-10 01:09 PM   #27 
  - Thank you for this. I'm bookmarking to watch later.  OmmmSweetOmmm   Apr-11-10 09:46 AM   #6 
  - RFK was shot in the back at point blank range...  Chemical Bill   Apr-11-10 10:00 AM   #7 
  - This Documentary tags the CIA agents that were there in film and photographs  Ichingcarpenter   Apr-11-10 10:05 AM   #8 
  - And that's why people on the scene wrestled Sirhan to the ground,  mistertrickster   Apr-11-10 11:29 AM   #18 
     - Yes...Rosey Grier and George Plimpton to be exact.  RagAss   Apr-11-10 12:51 PM   #25 
  - Thanks.  EFerrari   Apr-11-10 10:19 AM   #9 
  - sometimes a cigar is just a cigar  unabelladonna   Apr-11-10 10:36 AM   #10 
  - What does that mean?  Bucky   Apr-11-10 11:21 AM   #13 
     - ****crickets****  peace frog   Apr-11-10 11:27 AM   #17 
  - I've seen it, it's outstanding  democraticinsurgent   Apr-11-10 10:58 AM   #11 
  - k&r, and thanks for the free documentary link.  rusty quoin   Apr-11-10 11:04 AM   #12 
  - I have another link for Great Documentaries  Ichingcarpenter   Apr-11-10 11:25 AM   #15 
     - Great! Thanks  rusty quoin   Apr-11-10 11:37 AM   #20 
     - Bookmarked. Thank you! Watching the one on MLK today.  EFerrari   Apr-14-10 02:24 PM   #61 
  - Where are the bullets?  mistertrickster   Apr-11-10 11:24 AM   #14 
  - You didn't watch it  Ichingcarpenter   Apr-11-10 11:26 AM   #16 
  - Reply to "where are the bullets?"  k-robjoe   Apr-11-10 11:33 AM   #19 
  - What you're talking about then is a massive conspiracy involving coroners  mistertrickster   Apr-11-10 11:42 AM   #21 
     - Im half way through the documentary  k-robjoe   Apr-11-10 11:54 AM   #22 
     - Disappearing bullets, and disappearing witness testimonies  k-robjoe   Apr-11-10 01:09 PM   #26 
        - "the girl in the polka dot dress" - Just like one of them Film noir whodunit's, huh?  apocalypsehow   Apr-11-10 09:50 PM   #31 
           - So what we have is  k-robjoe   Apr-12-10 08:32 AM   #33 
              - No, what we "have" is the same 'ole CT'er daydream scenario: heavy on speculation (and uninformed  apocalypsehow   Apr-12-10 01:32 PM   #34 
                 - People will have to watch  k-robjoe   Apr-12-10 02:14 PM   #35 
                 - Teach the controversy. n/t  Bolo Boffin   Apr-12-10 02:38 PM   #36 
                    - Sorry, I dont get what youre saying  k-robjoe   Apr-12-10 02:49 PM   #37 
                       - "Teach the controversy" is a phrase used by creationists.  Bolo Boffin   Apr-12-10 02:59 PM   #38 
                          - OK, so when Im saying that bullying  k-robjoe   Apr-12-10 03:05 PM   #39 
                          - Ah, yes, another CT'er standby: just make shit up, and put words in the opposite numbers mouth.  apocalypsehow   Apr-12-10 03:22 PM   #40 
                             - Maybe all three of us agree  k-robjoe   Apr-12-10 04:47 PM   #41 
                                - I can only speak for myself, but I don't agree with you at all. For starters, I don't accept your  apocalypsehow   Apr-12-10 08:02 PM   #42 
                                   - LAPD did a thorough and quite professional investigation???  MinM   Apr-12-10 09:03 PM   #43 
                                      - They most certainly did - and all the links to loon websites & CT'ers own DU posts (*rollseyes*)  apocalypsehow   Apr-12-10 09:35 PM   #45 
                                         - Why did Hank Hernandez push Sandy Serrano to change her story?  MinM   Apr-12-10 10:58 PM   #48 
                                         - Why did the dish run away with the spoon?  apocalypsehow   Apr-12-10 11:49 PM   #49 
                                         - "Admitted to fabricating the story"  k-robjoe   Apr-13-10 04:31 AM   #50 
                                         - Asked & answered. And as for the rest, I don't care WHAT nonsense you wish to believe - there are  apocalypsehow   Apr-13-10 02:17 PM   #54 
                                         - I didnt get much sense out of that  k-robjoe   Apr-13-10 03:11 PM   #56 
                                         - DeWayne Wolfer mislabeled People's Exhibit #55  MinM   Apr-13-10 07:46 AM   #51 
                                         - The Second Gun  k-robjoe   Apr-13-10 08:14 AM   #52 
                                         - Left sleeve  k-robjoe   Apr-18-10 12:12 AM   #72 
                                         - Re : Left sleeve  k-robjoe   Mar-02-11 05:43 PM   #114 
                                         - "Your boy" - Haaaaa! How old are you?  apocalypsehow   Apr-13-10 02:24 PM   #55 
                                         - Do you prefer fellow Lone-Nutter?  MinM   Apr-13-10 08:23 PM   #59 
                                         - I know the debate is over and my facts have prevailed when the name-calling begins in earnest.  apocalypsehow   Apr-14-10 08:13 PM   #64 
                          - Whats your take on the Serrano audio tape Boloboffin?  k-robjoe   Apr-14-10 03:50 AM   #60 
                 - The Autopsy Doctor Does Away  jschurchin   Apr-13-10 10:38 AM   #53 
                    - I guess you think this some kind of biting repartee that "proves" something or the other.  apocalypsehow   Apr-13-10 03:25 PM   #57 
                       - It's not that my friend.  jschurchin   Apr-13-10 05:15 PM   #58 
                          - You are just repeating things that have already been asked, answered, and debunked.  apocalypsehow   Apr-14-10 08:09 PM   #63 
                             - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-16-10 12:03 PM   #66 
                                - "seceded"  SDuderstadt   Apr-16-10 12:28 PM   #67 
                                   - Whats your take on the Serrano audio tape SDuderstadt?  k-robjoe   Apr-16-10 01:06 PM   #68 
                                      - Sorry...I don't care...  SDuderstadt   Apr-16-10 01:57 PM   #69 
                                         - Re : Sorry...I don't care...  k-robjoe   Apr-16-10 02:59 PM   #71 
     - In RFK's case, it is the coroner's report that raised some of the questions  dflprincess   Apr-12-10 09:30 PM   #44 
        - as no witnesses reported seeing the convicted assassin, Sirhan Sirhan, in a position to fire such a  SDuderstadt   Apr-12-10 09:42 PM   #46 
           - I was only responding to the poster who said the coroner would have to be in on a cover up  dflprincess   Apr-12-10 10:20 PM   #47 
           - "no witness desscribed anyone else in a position to do so."  ablewon   Jul-10-10 09:46 PM   #78 
  - Other bullets  HelenWheels   Apr-11-10 11:58 AM   #23 
  - Careful - asking CT'ers to provide *facts* to back up their "documentaries" & "research" almost  apocalypsehow   Apr-11-10 09:43 PM   #30 
  - also bookmarked it to watch tonight; thank you  abq e streeter   Apr-11-10 12:20 PM   #24 
  - interesting that 2 routes were changed..and 2 assassinations  Gin   Apr-11-10 01:34 PM   #28 
     - Evidence? And, hint: Defining a dubious claim as "interesting" doesn't constitute "proof"...  apocalypsehow   Apr-11-10 10:18 PM   #32 
  - K & R!  pnorman   Apr-11-10 05:15 PM   #29 
  - The LAPD were no better in RFK murder than Dallas Police were five years earlier  MinM   Apr-20-10 08:37 PM   #73 
  - "I remember reading somewhere" - LOL! That's about the extent of CT'er "proof" of about anything.  apocalypsehow   Apr-21-10 08:19 PM   #74 
     - I remember reading somewhere - "LAPD did a thorough and quite professional investigation"  MinM   Apr-21-10 09:09 PM   #75 
        - And, of course, they did - as every bit of subsequent circumstantial analysis of the case has shown.  apocalypsehow   Apr-21-10 09:44 PM   #76 
  - Checkout Operation 40 and other 9-11 related victims  blavatsky3   Jun-13-10 07:58 PM   #77 
  - Another story Ted Kennedy was too stupid or apathetic to figure out? /nt  jberryhill   Jul-11-10 12:12 AM   #79 
     - EMK was "in on it"....  SDuderstadt   Jul-11-10 12:24 AM   #80 
        - Pretty much the whole family must be  jberryhill   Jul-11-10 01:00 AM   #81 
           - One would think....  SDuderstadt   Jul-11-10 01:17 AM   #82 
           - Who told you that the Kennedy family isn't?  ablewon   Jul-11-10 07:29 AM   #83 
              - Read "True Compass", EMK's memoir...  SDuderstadt   Jul-11-10 10:43 AM   #84 
              - does it say the K. family isn't interested?  ablewon   Jul-11-10 11:32 AM   #85 
                 - Why don't you show some evidence that they are...  SDuderstadt   Jul-11-10 11:46 AM   #86 
                 - Dude - you didn't answer or address my question  ablewon   Jul-11-10 12:08 PM   #91 
                 - Page 211 /nt  jberryhill   Jul-11-10 12:06 PM   #89 
              - Why don't they embrace any of the alternate theories?  jberryhill   Jul-11-10 12:00 PM   #87 
                 - TK was a smart, savvy, cautious politician  ablewon   Jul-11-10 12:04 PM   #88 
                    - What did he have to lose when...  SDuderstadt   Jul-11-10 12:07 PM   #90 
                    - G. Ford never confessed his role in the SBT lie  ablewon   Jul-11-10 12:21 PM   #92 
                    - I didn't ask you about Ford...  SDuderstadt   Jul-11-10 12:26 PM   #93 
                    - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-11-10 12:38 PM   #96 
                       - WTF?  SDuderstadt   Jul-11-10 12:43 PM   #98 
                          - Ford never found it convenient to apologize for his role ...  ablewon   Jul-11-10 02:06 PM   #100 
                             - You keep trying to shift the argument to Ford. I asked you about EMK...  SDuderstadt   Jul-11-10 02:17 PM   #102 
                                - Ford never forgot how he made his "bones"...  ablewon   Jul-11-10 02:26 PM   #103 
                                   - This is pointless....  SDuderstadt   Jul-11-10 04:28 PM   #106 
                                   - ablewon  zappaman   Jul-11-10 04:43 PM   #107 
                                      - I love how the CT-types come in here....  SDuderstadt   Jul-11-10 06:52 PM   #110 
                    - About Gerald Ford...  AntiFascist   Jun-12-11 04:36 PM   #124 
                    - "About Gerald Ford..."  zappaman   Jun-12-11 04:42 PM   #126 
                       - Laugh all you want, the evidence of a CIA coverup is mounting...  AntiFascist   Jun-12-11 04:52 PM   #127 
                          - Bugliosi is not my hero  zappaman   Jun-12-11 05:48 PM   #128 
                             - You're totally ignoring the main point...  AntiFascist   Jun-12-11 06:26 PM   #129 
                                - not ignoring the main point at all.  zappaman   Jun-12-11 08:47 PM   #130 
                                   - I don't have the book so I'll quote Fulsom...  AntiFascist   Jun-13-11 01:48 AM   #131 
                                      - so you take this publisher's word for it  zappaman   Jun-13-11 10:20 AM   #132 
                                         - Again, you're clearly missing the point...  AntiFascist   Jun-13-11 01:14 PM   #133 
                                            - your link  zappaman   Jun-13-11 01:58 PM   #134 
                                               - My first post on this thread was about what the biographer said...  AntiFascist   Jun-13-11 02:33 PM   #135 
                    - duplicate removed  AntiFascist   Jun-12-11 04:37 PM   #125 
                    - He loved his family, like Ronald Reagan did  Ter   Jun-02-11 12:39 AM   #118 
                    - really?  zappaman   Jun-02-11 12:41 AM   #119 
                       - There's no other explanation  Ter   Jun-02-11 12:15 PM   #120 
                    - There are probably still national security concerns...  AntiFascist   Jun-10-11 08:03 PM   #123 
                    - So you are going with "coward and liar"  jberryhill   Jul-11-10 12:27 PM   #94 
                       - You said what I'm thinking...about  ablewon   Jul-11-10 12:36 PM   #95 
                          - Name one of these "miracles", dude...  SDuderstadt   Jul-11-10 12:39 PM   #97 
                          - SBT  ablewon   Jul-11-10 02:01 PM   #99 
                             - Post # 94, dude.  SDuderstadt   Jul-11-10 02:10 PM   #101 
                                - Study the case.  ablewon   Jul-11-10 02:31 PM   #104 
                                   - "biblical miracles"?  zappaman   Jul-11-10 02:38 PM   #105 
                                   - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Jul-11-10 06:46 PM   #109 
                                      - Dude  ablewon   Jul-11-10 07:03 PM   #111 
                                         - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Jul-11-10 07:11 PM   #112 
                                            - Dude - Belief in goofy 9/11 miracles-based conspiracy...  ablewon   Jul-11-10 07:43 PM   #113 
                          - So it's some kind of miracle the Kennedys never embraced JFK or RFK CT's?  jberryhill   Jul-11-10 06:43 PM   #108 

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