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71. John McCloy.
A fact curiously missing from American history and any mention of the Warren Commission
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  -Ret. Col. Lawrence Wilkerson discusses possibility of a conspiracy to kill JFK deutsey  Nov-30-09 07:09 PM   #0 
  - Thanks  WeDidIt   Nov-30-09 07:12 PM   #1 
  - The Warren Commission was hogwash.  Octafish   Nov-30-09 07:28 PM   #4 
  - Hi, Octafish  deutsey   Nov-30-09 07:31 PM   #5 
  - Hi, Dwayne!  Octafish   Nov-30-09 07:44 PM   #16 
  - i'll drink to that!  Soylent Brice   Dec-01-09 12:06 PM   #31 
  - Anybody who believes the JFK conspiracy shit is a nutball  WeDidIt   Nov-30-09 07:32 PM   #7 
  - You've said that before.  Octafish   Nov-30-09 07:42 PM   #14 
  - End of discussion? So--you're out of here?  librechik   Dec-01-09 12:20 PM   #33 
  - What about people like me that know the identity of real "government protected" operatives that have  bobthedrummer   Dec-01-09 02:28 PM   #50 
  - Why aren't you out there exposing these people who you say you know  stopbush   Dec-01-09 02:31 PM   #52 
     - Troll land.  peacetalksforall   Dec-01-09 08:44 PM   #77 
     - For starters, Senator Feingold's office as well as Reps. Kind and Kagen's are aware of the facts in  bobthedrummer   Dec-02-09 02:19 PM   #119 
  - Yes, anyone who believes in one unpopular version of events is exactly like  Time for change   Dec-01-09 03:47 PM   #56 
  - Honestly TFC, is it any wonder why we can't make headway? ...  rtassi   Dec-01-09 05:25 PM   #64 
  - I just don't know  Time for change   Dec-01-09 09:45 PM   #91 
  - Or how about all that is still sealed & may never be released.  mother earth   Dec-01-09 06:40 PM   #74 
     - What, exactly, is sealed? Care to enlighten us?  stopbush   Dec-01-09 08:47 PM   #79 
        - What a joke. There is a deathbed confession by one of the  mother earth   Dec-02-09 06:44 PM   #126 
        - The deathbed "confession" you refer to was a cassette tape made by  stopbush   Dec-03-09 10:46 AM   #138 
           - E. Howard Hunt was defending Nixon up until the very end....  AntiFascist   Dec-01-11 01:35 AM   #159 
        - Here's some interesting links to get you started. 3 more CT's.  mother earth   Dec-02-09 07:17 PM   #129 
        - You're grasping at the usual CT straws here, my friend.  stopbush   Dec-03-09 12:52 AM   #137 
           - No, you are the one grasping at straws, but no amount of  mother earth   Dec-03-09 07:07 PM   #147 
              - Care to explain why you only provided half of that Nixon quote?  stopbush   Dec-04-09 12:35 AM   #151 
              - And I'm guessing that you're a birther, since you don't seem to believe  stopbush   Dec-04-09 02:14 PM   #153 
        - The CIA Ioanides files, for one thing... even Posner joined the lawsuit to release those.  JackRiddler   Dec-03-11 11:11 PM   #161 
  - If you really believe that then you are the netball.  zeemike   Dec-01-09 04:12 PM   #58 
  - Troll land.  peacetalksforall   Dec-01-09 08:42 PM   #76 
  - Anyone who believes that knows little about the facts . . .  defendandprotect   Dec-01-09 11:45 PM   #96 
  - And it doesn't make you look any smarter the second time around . . .  defendandprotect   Dec-02-09 12:11 AM   #98 
  - Because, after all, you have the one and only version of the Truth, yes?  mnhtnbb   Dec-02-09 06:49 PM   #127 
  - Octafish!  David Zephyr   Dec-01-09 05:02 PM   #61 
  - Chief Justice Warren was coerced into chairing this commission...  MinM   Dec-01-09 08:00 PM   #75 
     - Thanks Min . . . good to see someone tracking the JFK coup here . . .  defendandprotect   Dec-02-09 12:27 AM   #99 
        - Col. Lawrence Wilkerson is one of the more astute political commentators out there.  MinM   Nov-30-11 03:31 PM   #157 
  - Oh, the irony...  Ghost in the Machine   Nov-30-09 07:31 PM   #6 
  - Birthers, Truthers, JFK Conspiracy Theorists, New World Order nuts, People who believe in UFOs  WeDidIt   Nov-30-09 07:33 PM   #9 
     - Galileo was a nutball, once.  SutaUvaca   Nov-30-09 07:40 PM   #13 
     - No, he wasn't  WeDidIt   Dec-01-09 05:35 AM   #24 
        - John Kerry was a nutball then.  jbnow   Dec-04-09 12:43 AM   #152 
     - You're a real piece of work...  Ghost in the Machine   Nov-30-09 07:47 PM   #17 
     - The religious bulshit is my primary reason for having never voted for a Republican in my life.  WeDidIt   Dec-01-09 05:33 AM   #23 
        - Not that it will matter to you, WeDidIt, because you probably will not read them, but there  bertman   Dec-01-09 05:30 PM   #65 
           - No need to bother with any of these lousy books, We DidIt.  stopbush   Dec-01-09 08:56 PM   #81 
              - If you're going to give an honest rebuttal of the books that's one thing, stopbush.  bertman   Dec-01-09 10:44 PM   #92 
                 - Funny how you can't seem to give an honest rebuttal to my analysis.  stopbush   Dec-01-09 11:30 PM   #94 
                    - You say "Funny how you can't seem to give an honest rebuttal to my analysis."  bertman   Dec-02-09 09:14 PM   #130 
                       - Would you care to provide one or two specific examples to back up your statement that  stopbush   Dec-02-09 11:59 PM   #134 
     - Methinks the nutball here has been exposed.  chimpymustgo   Dec-01-09 12:11 PM   #32 
     - The guy isn't cognizant of the timeline for the HSCA, imagining that  stopbush   Dec-01-09 02:19 PM   #49 
     - Rep. Richardson Preyer of the HSCA was no nutball  unc70   Dec-01-09 04:52 PM   #60 
     - You can read a list of Stone's JFK inaccuracies here:  stopbush   Dec-01-09 09:02 PM   #82 
        - I would describe them as "alleged" and somewhat out of date  unc70   Dec-02-09 02:38 PM   #122 
           - The Stone-dismantling site I provided was provided because it is easily reached on the web.  stopbush   Dec-02-09 02:54 PM   #123 
     - Wilkerson made a mistake. You, OTOH, spout inanities.  Octafish   Dec-01-09 05:24 PM   #63 
     - And then there are the nutballs who believe only what they  mother earth   Dec-01-09 06:36 PM   #72 
        - What records have not been released in the JFK killing?  stopbush   Dec-01-09 09:04 PM   #84 
           - For starters, records regarding CIA man George E Joannides hiding phony Oswald in Mexico City.  Octafish   Dec-03-09 04:20 PM   #143 
           - Records detailing the CIA-Mafia relationship in regards to assassination  Octafish   Dec-03-09 05:19 PM   #144 
           - Personally: I'd like to know who railroaded Abraham Bolden?  Octafish   Dec-03-09 05:53 PM   #145 
           - It's important to know why did Secret Service allow JFK to ride in an open car after Miami, Chicago?  Octafish   Dec-03-09 07:21 PM   #148 
           - Literally -- a ton of documents from the Executive Branch, including FBI and CIA files.  Octafish   Dec-08-09 08:29 AM   #156 
  - I'll take Wilkerson's word over yours, too...  SpiralHawk   Dec-01-09 05:52 AM   #25 
  - Just as you took his word when he backed Colin Powell's mendacious presentation  stopbush   Dec-02-09 11:02 AM   #109 
     - Lt. Col. Wilkerson broke open the Blackwater - Predator drone assassination program.  Octafish   Dec-03-09 10:10 PM   #149 
  - blinders. it's easy to dismiss when you are uninformed.  mod mom   Dec-01-09 03:31 PM   #55 
  - Enter Stage Left - On Cue  AlwaysQuestion   Dec-01-11 12:11 PM   #160 
  - I don't know that he's a "nutball" but the interview veers way off track here  deutsey   Nov-30-09 07:17 PM   #2 
  - Recommended.  H2O Man   Nov-30-09 07:24 PM   #3 
  - Naval Intelligence.  Nikki Stone1   Nov-30-09 07:33 PM   #8 
  - Kicked and recommended.  Uncle Joe   Nov-30-09 07:37 PM   #10 
  - More and more brave public figures are stating what many have long known...  Octafish   Nov-30-09 07:39 PM   #11 
  - I didn't think many mainstream news outlets would cover this.  deutsey   Nov-30-09 07:43 PM   #15 
     - Obama: Profile in Courage, or Cave-In?  Octafish   Nov-30-09 07:58 PM   #18 
        - Hi, Octafish, you are so right!  mother earth   Dec-01-09 06:39 PM   #73 
  - Please spare us from the truth. We cant handle the truth. nt  rhett o rick   Nov-30-09 07:39 PM   #12 
  - Yep... LIHOP...  WillyT   Nov-30-09 08:03 PM   #19 
  - It's been a long time since I've seen you here.  stevedeshazer   Nov-30-09 08:04 PM   #20 
  - Oh, I've been lurking about.  deutsey   Nov-30-09 09:01 PM   #21 
  - Kick  deutsey   Dec-01-09 05:23 AM   #22 
  - kickee.  nashville_brook   Dec-01-09 06:30 AM   #26 
  - Kpfa is the bright side of my exile in CA. Thanks for posting! K & R nt  glitch   Dec-01-09 11:08 AM   #27 
  - ''exile'' in CA? You came from a better place?  yurbud   Dec-01-09 11:37 AM   #29 
  - My heart belongs to the Pacific Northwest. :) nt  glitch   Dec-01-09 01:41 PM   #43 
  - I listen online from the East Coast.  deutsey   Dec-01-09 12:21 PM   #34 
     - It's beautiful right now, but just wait until summer - HOT!  glitch   Dec-01-09 01:44 PM   #45 
  - White House Intruders  BeFree   Dec-01-09 11:28 AM   #28 
  - Bravo Col. Wilkerson!  Vidar   Dec-01-09 11:50 AM   #30 
  - I always heard it was the mafia  marlakay   Dec-01-09 12:25 PM   #35 
  - From what I've read, the mafia and intelligence elements have worked together  deutsey   Dec-01-09 12:35 PM   #37 
  - It seems the mafia were very much a part of it. They felt he'd double-crossed them,  Joe Chi Minh   Dec-01-09 05:42 PM   #68 
  - K&R ...funny how such topics bring about a Hategasm w/certain personality types  Echo In Light   Dec-01-09 12:28 PM   #36 
  - Whether you think there was a conspiracy or not  deutsey   Dec-01-09 12:41 PM   #39 
     - Never trust the "official" explanation on such matters  Echo In Light   Dec-01-09 01:19 PM   #41 
        - Agreed.  deutsey   Dec-01-09 01:54 PM   #47 
        - Have you ever read the Warren Commission report on the shooting?  stopbush   Dec-01-09 02:49 PM   #54 
           - Do you really believe everything you read? Especially, official?  Joe Chi Minh   Dec-01-09 05:54 PM   #70 
           - You obviously haven't read the WCR.  stopbush   Dec-01-09 08:45 PM   #78 
              - My! My! You are a believer, aren't you.... You must be really dim.  Joe Chi Minh   Dec-02-09 04:57 PM   #124 
                 - Sticks and stones, Joe.  stopbush   Dec-03-09 12:29 AM   #135 
                    - My! My! Now the haughty, irate pedantry hasn't worked, we've become a real broth of a boy,  Joe Chi Minh   Dec-03-09 03:14 PM   #140 
                       - I've already answered many of the errors you trollop out yet again  stopbush   Dec-03-09 04:02 PM   #142 
                          - ".... ignoring the facts presented in the WCR that he was, in fact,  Joe Chi Minh   Dec-03-09 06:54 PM   #146 
                             - There is no point in arguing with me when I am presenting facts  stopbush   Dec-04-09 12:29 AM   #150 
           - Chill out, man  deutsey   Dec-01-09 09:03 PM   #83 
              - I guess it comes down to what you regard as reputable sources.  stopbush   Dec-01-09 09:08 PM   #86 
              - I suppose it does. Perhaps I'll dig through them and make a bibliography.  deutsey   Dec-01-09 09:26 PM   #87 
              - Deleted by self. No need to be nastier than is absolutely necessary.  Joe Chi Minh   Dec-03-09 03:26 PM   #141 
              - why does Wilkerson have credentials?  hfojvt   Dec-02-09 12:47 AM   #100 
                 - Maybe "credentials" is the wrong word  deutsey   Dec-02-09 05:49 AM   #101 
                 - You act as if it's a big deal for a person of LW's "place in the social structure"  stopbush   Dec-02-09 11:06 AM   #110 
                    - Can you name anyone of equivalent place in American society  deutsey   Dec-02-09 11:35 AM   #111 
                       - Sure. Gov Jesse Ventura made similar comments about the killing.  stopbush   Dec-02-09 11:47 AM   #112 
                          - Thanks, but your tone seems to imply that I'm trying to defend Wilkerson's rank  deutsey   Dec-02-09 01:40 PM   #116 
                             - If it's not obvious, bringing up Oliver Stone's opinion in the JFK killing scores no points with me.  stopbush   Dec-02-09 02:08 PM   #118 
                                - Hello? I'm not citing them to make a case for anything. I was just adding to your list.  deutsey   Dec-02-09 02:23 PM   #120 
                                   - I read Fonzi's "review" after reading Bugliosi's book and it bore  stopbush   Dec-02-09 02:33 PM   #121 
                 - Ta-da! I've always been a little suspect of him for the exact reasons you mention.  stopbush   Dec-02-09 10:40 AM   #107 
        - That would certainly apply to the HSCA which found there was a conspiracy to kill JFK.  stopbush   Dec-01-09 02:43 PM   #53 
        - It seems strange that they still seem a little fearful.  Joe Chi Minh   Dec-01-09 05:46 PM   #69 
        - Have you signed on with the birthers? You say to never trust the official explanation,  stopbush   Dec-04-09 02:17 PM   #154 
  - I agree with a lot of what he said. I've wondered if we would ever learn the truth  appleannie1   Dec-01-09 12:36 PM   #38 
  - One of the oddities about Ruby was how he was  deutsey   Dec-01-09 12:45 PM   #40 
  - ''It's 'Fair Play for Cuba Committee'.''  Octafish   Dec-02-09 06:56 PM   #128 
  - Where does it say that the President is excused from his oath...  Kansas Wyatt   Dec-02-09 02:00 PM   #117 
  - K & R  AzDar   Dec-01-09 01:37 PM   #42 
  - K&R!  Raster   Dec-01-09 01:42 PM   #44 
  - Sounds like HE may be part of some conspiracy  Matariki   Dec-01-09 01:47 PM   #46 
  - Ha..."we're down the looking glass here, people"  deutsey   Dec-01-09 01:56 PM   #48 
  - ... of course he'd couch his comments with 'I'm not sure but" ...  Myrina   Dec-01-09 02:29 PM   #51 
  - Exactly why I think oxyrush's comments the other day should be taken seriously.  Initech   Dec-01-09 03:59 PM   #57 
  - A Great Book by James W. Douglass JFK And The Unthinkable ...  rtassi   Dec-01-09 04:19 PM   #59 
  - "JFK and the Unspeakable", rtassi. And your are right about a "must-read".  bertman   Dec-01-09 05:34 PM   #66 
     - Thank you bertman, lost a few brain cells in '69 n/t  rtassi   Dec-02-09 09:23 PM   #131 
  - Allen Dulles.  David Zephyr   Dec-01-09 05:05 PM   #62 
  - John McCloy.  Octafish   Dec-01-09 06:29 PM   #71 
  - Thank you, Colonel Wilkerson. And thank you, deutsey. Recommend. nt  bertman   Dec-01-09 05:35 PM   #67 
  - It's so easy to recognize the trolls by comparison to the genuine contributors. The new flock of  peacetalksforall   Dec-01-09 08:50 PM   #80 
  - The Narrative keepers and thought managers of the m$m will tear him apart for that view  ShamelessHussy   Dec-01-09 09:07 PM   #85 
  - Face it. We'll never know. Period.  Taverner   Dec-01-09 09:31 PM   #88 
  - I faced that a long time ago when I stopped looking into the subject.  deutsey   Dec-01-09 09:43 PM   #90 
  - Can a person use the word hologram or holistic in relation to the assassination?  peacetalksforall   Dec-01-09 09:34 PM   #89 
  - Wow. You've really bought the myths, hook, line and sinker.  stopbush   Dec-01-09 11:50 PM   #97 
     - I will check out your claim about jail. An easy cover up. However, there is no  peacetalksforall   Dec-02-09 07:37 AM   #103 
        - "there is no need to repeat stuff that I will never believe."  stopbush   Dec-02-09 10:26 AM   #106 
        - Re: the supposed French Mafia hit team.  stopbush   Dec-03-09 01:32 PM   #139 
  - the "possibility of a conspiracy to kill JFK"  man4allcats   Dec-01-09 11:14 PM   #93 
  - Yeah, I do, but when I wrote this I wanted just "present the facts"  deutsey   Dec-02-09 05:53 AM   #102 
  - Understood. I agree as well.  man4allcats   Dec-02-09 10:13 AM   #105 
     - According to his USMC service record, Oswald qualified as a SHARPSHOOTER in 1956.  stopbush   Dec-03-09 12:38 AM   #136 
  - I used to. I don't anymore.  stopbush   Dec-02-09 12:01 PM   #114 
  - Late K&R . . .  defendandprotect   Dec-01-09 11:42 PM   #95 
  - The HSCA Convened sometime between 1976 and 1977  swilton   Dec-02-09 08:45 AM   #104 
  - The HSCA was constituted in 1976 but didn't actually meet until mid-1977.  stopbush   Dec-02-09 10:59 AM   #108 
     - HSCA also recommended DoJ continue investigation. Reagan-Bush said, 'No.'  Octafish   Dec-02-09 12:49 PM   #115 
  - he only got sucked in by the movie  Tiggeroshii   Dec-02-09 11:49 AM   #113 
  - the south is as hateful toward Obama as they were toward Kennedy  RainDog   Dec-02-09 06:12 PM   #125 
  - Isn't it odd this is not in the dungeon yet?  704wipes   Dec-02-09 09:40 PM   #132 
  - It is now.  stopbush   Dec-04-09 02:18 PM   #155 
  - Well, we're officially discussing the possibility now at least  shadowknows69   Dec-02-09 09:44 PM   #133 
  - Agree MIC/CIA played large roles -- along with other powerful forces -- but they still couldn't have  defendandprotect   Dec-01-11 01:09 AM   #158 
 

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