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111. Can you name anyone of equivalent place in American society
who said something like this?

If so, I'd like to know. Seriously. Maybe Gaeton Fonzi, who was an investigator on the HSCA, comes close, but he's just a journalist, not ex-military etc. As I've said to you before, I really have not followed this closely since the early '90s. Nor am I as fixated on this as you seem to be, but this thread is inspiring me to do fresh research (assuming my real job and family/community responsibilities will allow that).

As I've also explained to you, I was as surprised by Wilkerson's comments as the interviewer seemed to be.

Now I'm going out for a walk in the real world for awhile.

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  -Ret. Col. Lawrence Wilkerson discusses possibility of a conspiracy to kill JFK deutsey  Nov-30-09 07:09 PM   #0 
  - Thanks  WeDidIt   Nov-30-09 07:12 PM   #1 
  - The Warren Commission was hogwash.  Octafish   Nov-30-09 07:28 PM   #4 
  - Hi, Octafish  deutsey   Nov-30-09 07:31 PM   #5 
  - Hi, Dwayne!  Octafish   Nov-30-09 07:44 PM   #16 
  - i'll drink to that!  Soylent Brice   Dec-01-09 12:06 PM   #31 
  - Anybody who believes the JFK conspiracy shit is a nutball  WeDidIt   Nov-30-09 07:32 PM   #7 
  - You've said that before.  Octafish   Nov-30-09 07:42 PM   #14 
  - End of discussion? So--you're out of here?  librechik   Dec-01-09 12:20 PM   #33 
  - What about people like me that know the identity of real "government protected" operatives that have  bobthedrummer   Dec-01-09 02:28 PM   #50 
  - Why aren't you out there exposing these people who you say you know  stopbush   Dec-01-09 02:31 PM   #52 
     - Troll land.  peacetalksforall   Dec-01-09 08:44 PM   #77 
     - For starters, Senator Feingold's office as well as Reps. Kind and Kagen's are aware of the facts in  bobthedrummer   Dec-02-09 02:19 PM   #119 
  - Yes, anyone who believes in one unpopular version of events is exactly like  Time for change   Dec-01-09 03:47 PM   #56 
  - Honestly TFC, is it any wonder why we can't make headway? ...  rtassi   Dec-01-09 05:25 PM   #64 
  - I just don't know  Time for change   Dec-01-09 09:45 PM   #91 
  - Or how about all that is still sealed & may never be released.  mother earth   Dec-01-09 06:40 PM   #74 
     - What, exactly, is sealed? Care to enlighten us?  stopbush   Dec-01-09 08:47 PM   #79 
        - What a joke. There is a deathbed confession by one of the  mother earth   Dec-02-09 06:44 PM   #126 
        - The deathbed "confession" you refer to was a cassette tape made by  stopbush   Dec-03-09 10:46 AM   #138 
           - E. Howard Hunt was defending Nixon up until the very end....  AntiFascist   Dec-01-11 01:35 AM   #159 
        - Here's some interesting links to get you started. 3 more CT's.  mother earth   Dec-02-09 07:17 PM   #129 
        - You're grasping at the usual CT straws here, my friend.  stopbush   Dec-03-09 12:52 AM   #137 
           - No, you are the one grasping at straws, but no amount of  mother earth   Dec-03-09 07:07 PM   #147 
              - Care to explain why you only provided half of that Nixon quote?  stopbush   Dec-04-09 12:35 AM   #151 
              - And I'm guessing that you're a birther, since you don't seem to believe  stopbush   Dec-04-09 02:14 PM   #153 
        - The CIA Ioanides files, for one thing... even Posner joined the lawsuit to release those.  JackRiddler   Dec-03-11 11:11 PM   #161 
  - If you really believe that then you are the netball.  zeemike   Dec-01-09 04:12 PM   #58 
  - Troll land.  peacetalksforall   Dec-01-09 08:42 PM   #76 
  - Anyone who believes that knows little about the facts . . .  defendandprotect   Dec-01-09 11:45 PM   #96 
  - And it doesn't make you look any smarter the second time around . . .  defendandprotect   Dec-02-09 12:11 AM   #98 
  - Because, after all, you have the one and only version of the Truth, yes?  mnhtnbb   Dec-02-09 06:49 PM   #127 
  - Octafish!  David Zephyr   Dec-01-09 05:02 PM   #61 
  - Chief Justice Warren was coerced into chairing this commission...  MinM   Dec-01-09 08:00 PM   #75 
     - Thanks Min . . . good to see someone tracking the JFK coup here . . .  defendandprotect   Dec-02-09 12:27 AM   #99 
        - Col. Lawrence Wilkerson is one of the more astute political commentators out there.  MinM   Nov-30-11 03:31 PM   #157 
  - Oh, the irony...  Ghost in the Machine   Nov-30-09 07:31 PM   #6 
  - Birthers, Truthers, JFK Conspiracy Theorists, New World Order nuts, People who believe in UFOs  WeDidIt   Nov-30-09 07:33 PM   #9 
     - Galileo was a nutball, once.  SutaUvaca   Nov-30-09 07:40 PM   #13 
     - No, he wasn't  WeDidIt   Dec-01-09 05:35 AM   #24 
        - John Kerry was a nutball then.  jbnow   Dec-04-09 12:43 AM   #152 
     - You're a real piece of work...  Ghost in the Machine   Nov-30-09 07:47 PM   #17 
     - The religious bulshit is my primary reason for having never voted for a Republican in my life.  WeDidIt   Dec-01-09 05:33 AM   #23 
        - Not that it will matter to you, WeDidIt, because you probably will not read them, but there  bertman   Dec-01-09 05:30 PM   #65 
           - No need to bother with any of these lousy books, We DidIt.  stopbush   Dec-01-09 08:56 PM   #81 
              - If you're going to give an honest rebuttal of the books that's one thing, stopbush.  bertman   Dec-01-09 10:44 PM   #92 
                 - Funny how you can't seem to give an honest rebuttal to my analysis.  stopbush   Dec-01-09 11:30 PM   #94 
                    - You say "Funny how you can't seem to give an honest rebuttal to my analysis."  bertman   Dec-02-09 09:14 PM   #130 
                       - Would you care to provide one or two specific examples to back up your statement that  stopbush   Dec-02-09 11:59 PM   #134 
     - Methinks the nutball here has been exposed.  chimpymustgo   Dec-01-09 12:11 PM   #32 
     - The guy isn't cognizant of the timeline for the HSCA, imagining that  stopbush   Dec-01-09 02:19 PM   #49 
     - Rep. Richardson Preyer of the HSCA was no nutball  unc70   Dec-01-09 04:52 PM   #60 
     - You can read a list of Stone's JFK inaccuracies here:  stopbush   Dec-01-09 09:02 PM   #82 
        - I would describe them as "alleged" and somewhat out of date  unc70   Dec-02-09 02:38 PM   #122 
           - The Stone-dismantling site I provided was provided because it is easily reached on the web.  stopbush   Dec-02-09 02:54 PM   #123 
     - Wilkerson made a mistake. You, OTOH, spout inanities.  Octafish   Dec-01-09 05:24 PM   #63 
     - And then there are the nutballs who believe only what they  mother earth   Dec-01-09 06:36 PM   #72 
        - What records have not been released in the JFK killing?  stopbush   Dec-01-09 09:04 PM   #84 
           - For starters, records regarding CIA man George E Joannides hiding phony Oswald in Mexico City.  Octafish   Dec-03-09 04:20 PM   #143 
           - Records detailing the CIA-Mafia relationship in regards to assassination  Octafish   Dec-03-09 05:19 PM   #144 
           - Personally: I'd like to know who railroaded Abraham Bolden?  Octafish   Dec-03-09 05:53 PM   #145 
           - It's important to know why did Secret Service allow JFK to ride in an open car after Miami, Chicago?  Octafish   Dec-03-09 07:21 PM   #148 
           - Literally -- a ton of documents from the Executive Branch, including FBI and CIA files.  Octafish   Dec-08-09 08:29 AM   #156 
  - I'll take Wilkerson's word over yours, too...  SpiralHawk   Dec-01-09 05:52 AM   #25 
  - Just as you took his word when he backed Colin Powell's mendacious presentation  stopbush   Dec-02-09 11:02 AM   #109 
     - Lt. Col. Wilkerson broke open the Blackwater - Predator drone assassination program.  Octafish   Dec-03-09 10:10 PM   #149 
  - blinders. it's easy to dismiss when you are uninformed.  mod mom   Dec-01-09 03:31 PM   #55 
  - Enter Stage Left - On Cue  AlwaysQuestion   Dec-01-11 12:11 PM   #160 
  - I don't know that he's a "nutball" but the interview veers way off track here  deutsey   Nov-30-09 07:17 PM   #2 
  - Recommended.  H2O Man   Nov-30-09 07:24 PM   #3 
  - Naval Intelligence.  Nikki Stone1   Nov-30-09 07:33 PM   #8 
  - Kicked and recommended.  Uncle Joe   Nov-30-09 07:37 PM   #10 
  - More and more brave public figures are stating what many have long known...  Octafish   Nov-30-09 07:39 PM   #11 
  - I didn't think many mainstream news outlets would cover this.  deutsey   Nov-30-09 07:43 PM   #15 
     - Obama: Profile in Courage, or Cave-In?  Octafish   Nov-30-09 07:58 PM   #18 
        - Hi, Octafish, you are so right!  mother earth   Dec-01-09 06:39 PM   #73 
  - Please spare us from the truth. We cant handle the truth. nt  rhett o rick   Nov-30-09 07:39 PM   #12 
  - Yep... LIHOP...  WillyT   Nov-30-09 08:03 PM   #19 
  - It's been a long time since I've seen you here.  stevedeshazer   Nov-30-09 08:04 PM   #20 
  - Oh, I've been lurking about.  deutsey   Nov-30-09 09:01 PM   #21 
  - Kick  deutsey   Dec-01-09 05:23 AM   #22 
  - kickee.  nashville_brook   Dec-01-09 06:30 AM   #26 
  - Kpfa is the bright side of my exile in CA. Thanks for posting! K & R nt  glitch   Dec-01-09 11:08 AM   #27 
  - ''exile'' in CA? You came from a better place?  yurbud   Dec-01-09 11:37 AM   #29 
  - My heart belongs to the Pacific Northwest. :) nt  glitch   Dec-01-09 01:41 PM   #43 
  - I listen online from the East Coast.  deutsey   Dec-01-09 12:21 PM   #34 
     - It's beautiful right now, but just wait until summer - HOT!  glitch   Dec-01-09 01:44 PM   #45 
  - White House Intruders  BeFree   Dec-01-09 11:28 AM   #28 
  - Bravo Col. Wilkerson!  Vidar   Dec-01-09 11:50 AM   #30 
  - I always heard it was the mafia  marlakay   Dec-01-09 12:25 PM   #35 
  - From what I've read, the mafia and intelligence elements have worked together  deutsey   Dec-01-09 12:35 PM   #37 
  - It seems the mafia were very much a part of it. They felt he'd double-crossed them,  Joe Chi Minh   Dec-01-09 05:42 PM   #68 
  - K&R ...funny how such topics bring about a Hategasm w/certain personality types  Echo In Light   Dec-01-09 12:28 PM   #36 
  - Whether you think there was a conspiracy or not  deutsey   Dec-01-09 12:41 PM   #39 
     - Never trust the "official" explanation on such matters  Echo In Light   Dec-01-09 01:19 PM   #41 
        - Agreed.  deutsey   Dec-01-09 01:54 PM   #47 
        - Have you ever read the Warren Commission report on the shooting?  stopbush   Dec-01-09 02:49 PM   #54 
           - Do you really believe everything you read? Especially, official?  Joe Chi Minh   Dec-01-09 05:54 PM   #70 
           - You obviously haven't read the WCR.  stopbush   Dec-01-09 08:45 PM   #78 
              - My! My! You are a believer, aren't you.... You must be really dim.  Joe Chi Minh   Dec-02-09 04:57 PM   #124 
                 - Sticks and stones, Joe.  stopbush   Dec-03-09 12:29 AM   #135 
                    - My! My! Now the haughty, irate pedantry hasn't worked, we've become a real broth of a boy,  Joe Chi Minh   Dec-03-09 03:14 PM   #140 
                       - I've already answered many of the errors you trollop out yet again  stopbush   Dec-03-09 04:02 PM   #142 
                          - ".... ignoring the facts presented in the WCR that he was, in fact,  Joe Chi Minh   Dec-03-09 06:54 PM   #146 
                             - There is no point in arguing with me when I am presenting facts  stopbush   Dec-04-09 12:29 AM   #150 
           - Chill out, man  deutsey   Dec-01-09 09:03 PM   #83 
              - I guess it comes down to what you regard as reputable sources.  stopbush   Dec-01-09 09:08 PM   #86 
              - I suppose it does. Perhaps I'll dig through them and make a bibliography.  deutsey   Dec-01-09 09:26 PM   #87 
              - Deleted by self. No need to be nastier than is absolutely necessary.  Joe Chi Minh   Dec-03-09 03:26 PM   #141 
              - why does Wilkerson have credentials?  hfojvt   Dec-02-09 12:47 AM   #100 
                 - Maybe "credentials" is the wrong word  deutsey   Dec-02-09 05:49 AM   #101 
                 - You act as if it's a big deal for a person of LW's "place in the social structure"  stopbush   Dec-02-09 11:06 AM   #110 
                    - Can you name anyone of equivalent place in American society  deutsey   Dec-02-09 11:35 AM   #111 
                       - Sure. Gov Jesse Ventura made similar comments about the killing.  stopbush   Dec-02-09 11:47 AM   #112 
                          - Thanks, but your tone seems to imply that I'm trying to defend Wilkerson's rank  deutsey   Dec-02-09 01:40 PM   #116 
                             - If it's not obvious, bringing up Oliver Stone's opinion in the JFK killing scores no points with me.  stopbush   Dec-02-09 02:08 PM   #118 
                                - Hello? I'm not citing them to make a case for anything. I was just adding to your list.  deutsey   Dec-02-09 02:23 PM   #120 
                                   - I read Fonzi's "review" after reading Bugliosi's book and it bore  stopbush   Dec-02-09 02:33 PM   #121 
                 - Ta-da! I've always been a little suspect of him for the exact reasons you mention.  stopbush   Dec-02-09 10:40 AM   #107 
        - That would certainly apply to the HSCA which found there was a conspiracy to kill JFK.  stopbush   Dec-01-09 02:43 PM   #53 
        - It seems strange that they still seem a little fearful.  Joe Chi Minh   Dec-01-09 05:46 PM   #69 
        - Have you signed on with the birthers? You say to never trust the official explanation,  stopbush   Dec-04-09 02:17 PM   #154 
  - I agree with a lot of what he said. I've wondered if we would ever learn the truth  appleannie1   Dec-01-09 12:36 PM   #38 
  - One of the oddities about Ruby was how he was  deutsey   Dec-01-09 12:45 PM   #40 
  - ''It's 'Fair Play for Cuba Committee'.''  Octafish   Dec-02-09 06:56 PM   #128 
  - Where does it say that the President is excused from his oath...  Kansas Wyatt   Dec-02-09 02:00 PM   #117 
  - K & R  AzDar   Dec-01-09 01:37 PM   #42 
  - K&R!  Raster   Dec-01-09 01:42 PM   #44 
  - Sounds like HE may be part of some conspiracy  Matariki   Dec-01-09 01:47 PM   #46 
  - Ha..."we're down the looking glass here, people"  deutsey   Dec-01-09 01:56 PM   #48 
  - ... of course he'd couch his comments with 'I'm not sure but" ...  Myrina   Dec-01-09 02:29 PM   #51 
  - Exactly why I think oxyrush's comments the other day should be taken seriously.  Initech   Dec-01-09 03:59 PM   #57 
  - A Great Book by James W. Douglass JFK And The Unthinkable ...  rtassi   Dec-01-09 04:19 PM   #59 
  - "JFK and the Unspeakable", rtassi. And your are right about a "must-read".  bertman   Dec-01-09 05:34 PM   #66 
     - Thank you bertman, lost a few brain cells in '69 n/t  rtassi   Dec-02-09 09:23 PM   #131 
  - Allen Dulles.  David Zephyr   Dec-01-09 05:05 PM   #62 
  - John McCloy.  Octafish   Dec-01-09 06:29 PM   #71 
  - Thank you, Colonel Wilkerson. And thank you, deutsey. Recommend. nt  bertman   Dec-01-09 05:35 PM   #67 
  - It's so easy to recognize the trolls by comparison to the genuine contributors. The new flock of  peacetalksforall   Dec-01-09 08:50 PM   #80 
  - The Narrative keepers and thought managers of the m$m will tear him apart for that view  ShamelessHussy   Dec-01-09 09:07 PM   #85 
  - Face it. We'll never know. Period.  Taverner   Dec-01-09 09:31 PM   #88 
  - I faced that a long time ago when I stopped looking into the subject.  deutsey   Dec-01-09 09:43 PM   #90 
  - Can a person use the word hologram or holistic in relation to the assassination?  peacetalksforall   Dec-01-09 09:34 PM   #89 
  - Wow. You've really bought the myths, hook, line and sinker.  stopbush   Dec-01-09 11:50 PM   #97 
     - I will check out your claim about jail. An easy cover up. However, there is no  peacetalksforall   Dec-02-09 07:37 AM   #103 
        - "there is no need to repeat stuff that I will never believe."  stopbush   Dec-02-09 10:26 AM   #106 
        - Re: the supposed French Mafia hit team.  stopbush   Dec-03-09 01:32 PM   #139 
  - the "possibility of a conspiracy to kill JFK"  man4allcats   Dec-01-09 11:14 PM   #93 
  - Yeah, I do, but when I wrote this I wanted just "present the facts"  deutsey   Dec-02-09 05:53 AM   #102 
  - Understood. I agree as well.  man4allcats   Dec-02-09 10:13 AM   #105 
     - According to his USMC service record, Oswald qualified as a SHARPSHOOTER in 1956.  stopbush   Dec-03-09 12:38 AM   #136 
  - I used to. I don't anymore.  stopbush   Dec-02-09 12:01 PM   #114 
  - Late K&R . . .  defendandprotect   Dec-01-09 11:42 PM   #95 
  - The HSCA Convened sometime between 1976 and 1977  swilton   Dec-02-09 08:45 AM   #104 
  - The HSCA was constituted in 1976 but didn't actually meet until mid-1977.  stopbush   Dec-02-09 10:59 AM   #108 
     - HSCA also recommended DoJ continue investigation. Reagan-Bush said, 'No.'  Octafish   Dec-02-09 12:49 PM   #115 
  - he only got sucked in by the movie  Tiggeroshii   Dec-02-09 11:49 AM   #113 
  - the south is as hateful toward Obama as they were toward Kennedy  RainDog   Dec-02-09 06:12 PM   #125 
  - Isn't it odd this is not in the dungeon yet?  704wipes   Dec-02-09 09:40 PM   #132 
  - It is now.  stopbush   Dec-04-09 02:18 PM   #155 
  - Well, we're officially discussing the possibility now at least  shadowknows69   Dec-02-09 09:44 PM   #133 
  - Agree MIC/CIA played large roles -- along with other powerful forces -- but they still couldn't have  defendandprotect   Dec-01-11 01:09 AM   #158 

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