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Neily Donating Member (208 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 02:51 AM
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129. hmm I think I would treat them the same...
when it comes to 9/11 as it does with many, if not all other topics... I would encourage them to make their own decisions. But, I would encourage them to never use mainstream media as a basis for their beliefs...

I think that is safe for pretty much every topic... Do independent research... or find independent research, then decide.

Although I am huge on playing devil's advocate and would likely find myself arguing all sides of the issue of 9/11 to remind them that no question is a bad question and no answer is definitive.

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  -Many here feel the Towers fell from implosion Torn_Scorned_Ignored  Oct-31-09 10:00 AM   #0 
  - The answer to your question is Nothing.  HannibalCards   Oct-31-09 10:17 AM   #1 
  - excuse me?  Torn_Scorned_Ignored   Oct-31-09 11:02 AM   #2 
     - Do you have any clue just how many tons of high explosive you are talking about?  hack89   Oct-31-09 01:11 PM   #5 
     - what witnesses are those?  OnTheOtherHand   Oct-31-09 01:27 PM   #6 
     - Sure did  HannibalCards   Oct-31-09 01:46 PM   #7 
  - Here is a WTC dust analysis - show me all the steel.  hack89   Oct-31-09 01:10 PM   #3 
  - The dustification was needed  LARED   Oct-31-09 01:11 PM   #4 
  - What makes you think the dust consists of the steel?  Ohio Joe   Oct-31-09 03:27 PM   #8 
  - Ohio Joe  Torn_Scorned_Ignored   Oct-31-09 03:38 PM   #9 
     - If you put them on ignore simply because they don't agree with you...  SDuderstadt   Oct-31-09 03:41 PM   #10 
     - Well...  Ohio Joe   Oct-31-09 03:55 PM   #11 
     - I do not think ALL the dust is from steel  Torn_Scorned_Ignored   Oct-31-09 04:22 PM   #12 
        - Jesus...  SDuderstadt   Oct-31-09 04:26 PM   #13 
        - Which begs another question...  Neily   Nov-03-09 01:38 AM   #116 
           - Send me a picture....  SDuderstadt   Nov-03-09 01:41 AM   #117 
              - I was begging the question of the hole you referenced... n/t  Neily   Nov-03-09 01:45 AM   #119 
                 - And I was asking for your picture....  SDuderstadt   Nov-03-09 01:52 AM   #120 
                    - Too Funny  Neily   Nov-03-09 01:59 AM   #121 
                       - Slow down....  SDuderstadt   Nov-03-09 02:13 AM   #122 
                          - You do serve a purpose here afer all...  Neily   Nov-03-09 02:23 AM   #123 
                             - I'll bet you say that to all the boys....  SDuderstadt   Nov-03-09 02:26 AM   #124 
                                - If you only knew... n/t  Neily   Nov-03-09 02:29 AM   #125 
                                   - Well, you DO talk in your sleep....n/t  SDuderstadt   Nov-03-09 02:34 AM   #126 
                                      - Actually I do...  Neily   Nov-03-09 02:38 AM   #127 
                                         - Who cares if we're off-topic.....  SDuderstadt   Nov-03-09 02:46 AM   #128 
                                            - hmm I think I would treat them the same...  Neily   Nov-03-09 02:51 AM   #129 
                                               - Okay...  SDuderstadt   Nov-03-09 02:58 AM   #130 
                                               - Yeah... I am too demanding..  Neily   Nov-03-09 03:04 AM   #131 
                                               - Alright...that does it...  SDuderstadt   Nov-03-09 03:05 AM   #132 
                                               - What do you think about this?  Torn_Scorned_Ignored   Nov-03-09 10:05 AM   #136 
        - Well...  Ohio Joe   Oct-31-09 04:49 PM   #14 
           - perspective  Torn_Scorned_Ignored   Oct-31-09 11:30 PM   #16 
           - What perspective?  KDLarsen   Oct-31-09 11:42 PM   #17 
           - I don't get it  Ohio Joe   Nov-01-09 01:31 AM   #18 
              - Look  Torn_Scorned_Ignored   Nov-01-09 10:23 AM   #24 
                 - Looking at the last picture  KDLarsen   Nov-01-09 10:36 AM   #25 
                 - Bottom line... I have no answer for you  Ohio Joe   Nov-02-09 08:51 AM   #57 
                    - I pretty much agree with you  Torn_Scorned_Ignored   Nov-02-09 11:05 AM   #58 
                       - What kind of weapon can get past the Easter Bunny's defenses?  Bolo Boffin   Nov-02-09 11:12 AM   #61 
                          - WTF?  BeFree   Nov-02-09 12:51 PM   #67 
                             - As long as we are discussing questions with no basis in reality...  Bolo Boffin   Nov-02-09 01:07 PM   #69 
                                - heh  BeFree   Nov-02-09 01:09 PM   #70 
                                   - Oh, bruddah.  Bolo Boffin   Nov-02-09 01:45 PM   #74 
                                      - Yeah, too real  BeFree   Nov-02-09 04:52 PM   #91 
                                         - When is your next "vacation", dude?  SDuderstadt   Nov-02-09 04:52 PM   #92 
                                         - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-02-09 04:58 PM   #93 
           - Easy or not so easy answer to your question....  Neily   Nov-03-09 01:44 AM   #118 
              - 200,000 tons of steel  Torn_Scorned_Ignored   Nov-03-09 09:49 AM   #135 
              - Although he is talking about Scrap Metal  Torn_Scorned_Ignored   Nov-03-09 11:02 AM   #141 
                 - True  Neily   Nov-03-09 10:33 PM   #147 
     - It seems to me that simply falling down wouldn't have caused materials such as  Mist   Nov-02-09 02:56 PM   #79 
        - That's because it didn't "simply fall down".....  SDuderstadt   Nov-02-09 03:33 PM   #80 
  - What I would start with is this. What evidence leads you to conclude that...  Realityhack   Oct-31-09 05:34 PM   #15 
  - Evidence:  thepeopleunited   Nov-01-09 03:35 AM   #19 
     - You are looking right at it.  HannibalCards   Nov-01-09 04:27 AM   #20 
     - Exactly. I'm looking at a field of ashes  thepeopleunited   Nov-01-09 08:59 AM   #21 
        - you are?  OnTheOtherHand   Nov-01-09 09:37 AM   #22 
           - I am. That is exactly what I see.  thepeopleunited   Nov-01-09 09:47 AM   #23 
              - Neither is the religious beliefs of 1 random individual such as yourself. n/t  Bolo Boffin   Nov-01-09 12:29 PM   #26 
              - "There is some steel in the pile of course"  OnTheOtherHand   Nov-01-09 01:44 PM   #27 
              - I'm not sure what you expect to see  vincent_vega_lives   Nov-02-09 11:07 AM   #59 
              - um  Torn_Scorned_Ignored   Nov-02-09 01:44 PM   #73 
              - All the "evidence" you ought to need is right there in the photo in post #23.  WillowTree   Nov-29-09 05:43 PM   #153 
              - The problem is that the subbasements didn't collapse.  thepeopleunited   Nov-02-09 03:51 PM   #81 
              - Oversize photo showing the WTC debris:  thepeopleunited   Nov-02-09 03:55 PM   #82 
              - subbasement pic  Torn_Scorned_Ignored   Nov-03-09 10:40 AM   #139 
              - had collapsed into the sub basements. - FEMA photo  Torn_Scorned_Ignored   Nov-03-09 10:44 AM   #140 
              - Why would the cheese graters be radioactive?  ryan_cats   Nov-30-09 09:56 AM   #156 
                 - There is a small but fierce contingent of "truthers" that firmly  LARED   Nov-30-09 05:34 PM   #159 
                    - Nuked, huh, well ok.  ryan_cats   Dec-02-09 09:39 AM   #163 
                       - Why are you trying to "suppress the truth"....  SDuderstadt   Dec-02-09 06:10 PM   #167 
     - I see the problem now. You have no evidence...  Realityhack   Nov-04-09 01:55 PM   #148 
        - incidentally, I really love the title of the OP  OnTheOtherHand   Nov-04-09 02:32 PM   #150 
        - Absolutely. n/t  Realityhack   Nov-05-09 03:49 PM   #152 
        - What problem?  thepeopleunited   Nov-04-09 10:46 PM   #151 
  - I believe it is likely due to the use of explosive nuclear devices  waldenaut   Nov-01-09 02:57 PM   #28 
  - A Conservative yield - -  Torn_Scorned_Ignored   Nov-02-09 09:29 PM   #111 
     - "As far as I know the evidence doesn't really point to nukes. "  Realityhack   Nov-04-09 01:59 PM   #149 
  - And what happened to the office contents?  rollingrock   Nov-01-09 05:26 PM   #29 
  - You know, it's real embarrassing that thinking as...  SDuderstadt   Nov-01-09 06:34 PM   #30 
  - You sound very angry and bitter  rollingrock   Nov-01-09 06:39 PM   #31 
  - Really, dude....  SDuderstadt   Nov-01-09 06:48 PM   #32 
  - It's amazing these theories continue to get recycled - nt  LARED   Nov-01-09 07:53 PM   #34 
     - It's actually embarrassing...n/t  SDuderstadt   Nov-01-09 08:17 PM   #36 
  - filing cabinet found  Torn_Scorned_Ignored   Nov-01-09 07:47 PM   #33 
  - Jesus, dude...  SDuderstadt   Nov-01-09 08:16 PM   #35 
     - Falling buildings cause filing cabinets to melt?  rollingrock   Nov-01-09 09:29 PM   #37 
        - Jesus, dude....  SDuderstadt   Nov-01-09 09:36 PM   #38 
           - 'dude logic'  rollingrock   Nov-01-09 09:46 PM   #39 
           - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Nov-01-09 09:59 PM   #40 
              - You still think the towers pancaked?  rollingrock   Nov-01-09 10:12 PM   #41 
              - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Nov-01-09 10:23 PM   #42 
                 - Why do you still cling to the pancaking fantasy?  rollingrock   Nov-01-09 10:41 PM   #43 
                    - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Nov-01-09 11:00 PM   #44 
                    - You really should stick to your Pink Panther and Jetsons reruns  rollingrock   Nov-01-09 11:14 PM   #45 
                       - Ouch, dude...  SDuderstadt   Nov-01-09 11:21 PM   #46 
                    - NIST only dropped pancaking as a theory of collapse initiation  Bolo Boffin   Nov-01-09 11:53 PM   #47 
                       - Have you been drinking the SD kool-aid?  rollingrock   Nov-02-09 12:13 AM   #48 
                          - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Nov-02-09 12:20 AM   #49 
                          - Where does it say anything about collapse initiation?  rollingrock   Nov-02-09 12:26 AM   #50 
                             - Jesus fucking christ, dude...  SDuderstadt   Nov-02-09 12:39 AM   #51 
                                - Are you hallucinating again?  rollingrock   Nov-02-09 12:56 AM   #52 
                                   - Dude....this is what I'm talking about....  SDuderstadt   Nov-02-09 01:08 AM   #53 
                                      - Saying it doesn't make it so  rollingrock   Nov-02-09 01:27 AM   #54 
                                         - For the last fucking time...  SDuderstadt   Nov-02-09 08:45 AM   #56 
                                         - You still haven't shown where NIST says the floors pancaked  rollingrock   Nov-02-09 01:55 PM   #76 
                                         - Dude...how many fucking times do I have t  SDuderstadt   Nov-02-09 02:42 PM   #78 
                          - They are clearly talking about collapse initiation there.  Bolo Boffin   Nov-02-09 02:47 AM   #55 
                             - Utter fantasy  rollingrock   Nov-02-09 01:51 PM   #75 
                                - Okay, dude...  SDuderstadt   Nov-02-09 04:07 PM   #83 
                                - You spout plenty of mumbo jumbo  rollingrock   Nov-02-09 04:19 PM   #84 
                                   - massive fail n/t  OnTheOtherHand   Nov-02-09 04:32 PM   #85 
                                   - I fail to understand the mumbo jumbo  rollingrock   Nov-02-09 04:40 PM   #89 
                                      - More stalling from RollingRock.....  SDuderstadt   Nov-02-09 04:43 PM   #90 
                                      - Where's your math, dude?  SDuderstadt   Nov-02-09 04:59 PM   #94 
                                      - Well, you don't always want to use Darcy-Weisbach.  AZCat   Nov-03-09 07:15 AM   #134 
                                   - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Nov-02-09 04:35 PM   #86 
                                - At least you are labeling your posts correctly.  Bolo Boffin   Nov-02-09 05:14 PM   #95 
                                   - 'NIST won't ever deny that.'  rollingrock   Nov-02-09 05:30 PM   #98 
                                      - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Nov-02-09 05:41 PM   #99 
                                      - No, they did not. "Collapse" for NIST is collapse initiation.  Bolo Boffin   Nov-02-09 06:36 PM   #100 
                                         - Your imagination running wild again  rollingrock   Nov-02-09 07:40 PM   #101 
                                            - I'm curious what you think this means  OnTheOtherHand   Nov-02-09 08:08 PM   #102 
                                            - Now I've provided the exact quote where NIST is shown to be talking about initiation  Bolo Boffin   Nov-02-09 08:08 PM   #103 
                                            - dontcha know, context is part of the conspiracy!!1! n/t  OnTheOtherHand   Nov-02-09 08:14 PM   #104 
                                            - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-02-09 09:11 PM   #106 
                                            - Your arrogance is astonishing.  Bolo Boffin   Nov-02-09 09:15 PM   #107 
                                            - Where does it say pancaking takes place after initiation?  rollingrock   Nov-02-09 09:22 PM   #109 
                                            - What does it say, rollingrock? What's that verb? INITIATED.  Bolo Boffin   Nov-02-09 09:26 PM   #110 
                                            - The sad thing is, you don't even know what pancaking is!  rollingrock   Nov-02-09 09:50 PM   #112 
                                            - NIST: "the failure of the inwardly bowed perimeter columns initiated collapse" n/t  Bolo Boffin   Nov-02-09 10:02 PM   #113 
                                            - Okay, dude...this one is your record doozy...  SDuderstadt   Nov-02-09 10:28 PM   #115 
                                            - Can you read, dude?  SDuderstadt   Nov-02-09 08:17 PM   #105 
                                            - So where do they say pancaking was the RESULT?  rollingrock   Nov-02-09 09:16 PM   #108 
                                            - I tried to translate the following into braille so you could read it, but it didn't work, dude.  SDuderstadt   Nov-02-09 10:22 PM   #114 
                                            - surely you didn't mean Braille  OnTheOtherHand   Nov-03-09 06:41 AM   #133 
                                            - It was a two-fold spoof of RR...  SDuderstadt   Nov-03-09 10:34 AM   #138 
                                            - Are you a special needs student?  rollingrock   Nov-03-09 02:31 PM   #143 
                                            - Where's your math, dude?  SDuderstadt   Nov-03-09 04:15 PM   #145 
              - Rust is not an issue here  ryan_cats   Nov-30-09 10:38 AM   #157 
           - Holy crap! The Dude Pancake Theory.  Prometheus Bound   Nov-30-09 06:15 PM   #160 
  - crushed  vincent_vega_lives   Nov-02-09 11:10 AM   #60 
     - No, it is not  rollingrock   Nov-02-09 02:03 PM   #77 
        - Yes it is  vincent_vega_lives   Dec-01-09 12:43 PM   #161 
        - Still pimping your little quotemined soundbite?  Bolo Boffin   Dec-01-09 01:01 PM   #162 
  - I feel like chicken tonight  Theobald   Nov-02-09 11:41 AM   #62 
  - Well, then  BeFree   Nov-02-09 12:24 PM   #63 
     - It's wallboard, concrete and other materials found in offices, dude...  SDuderstadt   Nov-02-09 12:41 PM   #64 
     - you mean, "steel looking like it turned to dust"?  OnTheOtherHand   Nov-02-09 12:47 PM   #66 
     - I see an ignored!! Too bad.  BeFree   Nov-02-09 12:43 PM   #65 
     - You just responded to yourself, dude....  SDuderstadt   Nov-02-09 12:56 PM   #68 
     - there is a vast difference between saying  Theobald   Nov-02-09 01:20 PM   #71 
     - There is evidence of steel  Torn_Scorned_Ignored   Nov-02-09 01:40 PM   #72 
     - You claim that there is steel dust  Theobald   Nov-02-09 04:39 PM   #88 
        - sorry  Torn_Scorned_Ignored   Nov-02-09 05:19 PM   #96 
           - If you have nearly everyone on ignore...  SDuderstadt   Nov-02-09 05:23 PM   #97 
     - Two things  BeFree   Nov-02-09 04:38 PM   #87 
        - It appears  Theobald   Nov-03-09 04:11 PM   #144 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-03-09 10:20 AM   #137 
        - Do collapsed buildings have big craters in the bottom?  Rosa Luxemburg   Nov-03-09 02:14 PM   #142 
           - There are a lot  Torn_Scorned_Ignored   Nov-03-09 07:31 PM   #146 
  - How many clunkities is that?  ryan_cats   Nov-29-09 06:46 PM   #154 
  - Finally someone that makes sense. I'm going to the dark side.  LARED   Nov-30-09 05:47 AM   #155 
     - You already are on the dark side. You just don't realize it.  Raster   Nov-30-09 12:39 PM   #158 
     - Does someone know the units?  ryan_cats   Dec-02-09 09:44 AM   #164 
  - dustification  snooper2   Dec-02-09 02:00 PM   #165 
     - All I know is, when I encounter "dustification"....  SDuderstadt   Dec-02-09 06:06 PM   #166 
 

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