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Realityhack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 12:40 PM
Response to Reply #54
55. No it is not in any way mutually exclusive.
You are arguing that the 9-11 forum should be 'treated fairly' that is have the same rules as other forums.

So you would be able to rec/unrec but you would also not be able to link to conspiracy theory sites. And violating that rule repeatedly would get you banned.
IMO that would eliminate many if not most of the posts with links here. That would leave unsubstantiated conjecture and not much else.

Also keep in mind that Skinner could easily decide he doesn't want a 9-11 group at all and simply delete it. DU is not a free speech zone. If you want to discuss how awesome republican policies are you are SOL. Same could be done for 9-11 conspiracy theories.
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  -Dear Grovelbot Pharaoh  Aug-16-09 07:48 PM   #0 
  - I'm pretty sure that DU will not react kindly to ultimatums....  SDuderstadt   Aug-16-09 07:52 PM   # 
  - Thank God it's just a thought...  MrMickeysMom   Aug-18-09 10:06 AM   #39 
  - Self-delete  SDuderstadt   Aug-16-09 07:52 PM   #1 
  - Oh, that star must feel like a mark of shame for you.  Bolo Boffin   Aug-16-09 09:10 PM   #2 
  - I would happily donate more  rhymeandreason   Aug-17-09 06:18 AM   #3 
  - If it was...  Realityhack   Aug-17-09 08:48 AM   #6 
  - It really doesn't seem fair  rhymeandreason   Aug-17-09 07:30 AM   #4 
  - What unique rules and restrictions?  Ohio Joe   Aug-17-09 10:40 AM   #8 
     - I imagine the 'restriction' is that you can't rec. or unrec. posts.  Realityhack   Aug-17-09 11:12 AM   #9 
        - ahhh yes, probably  Ohio Joe   Aug-17-09 11:26 AM   #10 
           - I honestly have the feeling from what I have read here...  Realityhack   Aug-17-09 11:34 AM   #11 
  - I forgot  Pharaoh   Aug-17-09 08:28 AM   #5 
  - Now with the unrec function I wonder how they would make it outside  jakeXT   Aug-17-09 09:55 AM   #7 
  - Good Point!  Pharaoh   Aug-17-09 04:56 PM   #13 
     - Too many unanswered questions  Pharaoh   Aug-17-09 04:57 PM   #14 
     - Since it is not being discussed in the real world  hack89   Aug-17-09 05:03 PM   #15 
        - If the discussion goes like this  jakeXT   Aug-17-09 06:05 PM   #16 
        - Or like this  hack89   Aug-17-09 06:42 PM   #17 
           - Great parody, Hack...  SDuderstadt   Aug-17-09 06:45 PM   #18 
           - How prominent do you think the (video fakery/ no plane) is in the 911^truth movement?  jakeXT   Aug-17-09 06:47 PM   #19 
              - we are talking  Pharaoh   Aug-17-09 06:56 PM   #20 
              - Let's leave Shanksville & Pentagon out, hack was talking about the WTC  jakeXT   Aug-17-09 07:03 PM   #21 
              - Of Course!  Pharaoh   Aug-17-09 07:08 PM   #22 
              - After the highjackings  Pharaoh   Aug-17-09 07:12 PM   #23 
                 - You can learn this stuff, you know...  SDuderstadt   Aug-17-09 07:18 PM   #24 
                    - I am open to being wrong  Pharaoh   Aug-17-09 07:25 PM   #25 
                       - Absolutely...  SDuderstadt   Aug-17-09 07:37 PM   #26 
                          - So then show me  Pharaoh   Aug-17-09 07:42 PM   #27 
                             - Start by going through...  SDuderstadt   Aug-17-09 08:12 PM   #28 
              - Here is wreckage and bodies at the Pentagon (WARNING GRAPHIC)  hack89   Aug-17-09 08:27 PM   #30 
              - At Du - a lot greater than 1 percent  hack89   Aug-17-09 08:21 PM   #29 
        - Here's a clue:  procopia   Aug-17-09 11:34 PM   #31 
        - We are all still impacted by 9/11  procopia   Aug-18-09 07:38 AM   #35 
           - Yes, and if the Truth movement were to ditch the no-planers  hack89   Aug-18-09 09:38 AM   #36 
              - Don't pretend you know what happened  procopia   Aug-18-09 09:56 AM   #38 
              - I know enough about basic science and engineering  hack89   Aug-18-09 10:12 AM   #40 
                 - I find the highly credentialed truth movement "pseudo-scientists"--  procopia   Aug-18-09 10:41 AM   #42 
                 - Oh, please...  SDuderstadt   Aug-18-09 10:46 AM   #43 
                 - By any measure  procopia   Aug-18-09 12:58 PM   #59 
                    - Ahh, yes - the authority of those who have no real knowledge...  AZCat   Aug-20-09 08:01 PM   #106 
                 - ROTFLOL n/t  Realityhack   Aug-18-09 11:28 AM   #45 
                 - You are kidding, right?  hack89   Aug-18-09 09:34 PM   #99 
                    - Steven Jones did post graduate work at Stanford  procopia   Aug-19-09 11:28 PM   #102 
                       - Behold My Hands: Evidence for Christ's Visit in Ancient America  hack89   Aug-20-09 05:53 AM   #103 
                          - Here is what it says...  procopia   Aug-20-09 08:58 PM   #107 
                             - that makes sense if you're new to the forum  OnTheOtherHand   Aug-20-09 09:04 PM   #108 
                             - Not so much  procopia   Aug-20-09 09:19 PM   #109 
                                - then you haven't read very closely  OnTheOtherHand   Aug-21-09 10:46 PM   #113 
                                   - Or maybe I'm just not that impressed  procopia   Aug-22-09 12:58 AM   #114 
                                      - Who cares? n/t  Bolo Boffin   Aug-22-09 03:47 AM   #115 
                                      - moving the goalposts  OnTheOtherHand   Aug-22-09 11:50 AM   #116 
                                         - Fling all the poo you want at the Jones/Harrit paper, but  procopia   Aug-22-09 09:12 PM   #117 
                                            - WTF?  SDuderstadt   Aug-22-09 10:11 PM   #118 
                                            - Until the Harrit paper IS a "journal published, peer reviewed" paper, your post is absurd. n/t  Bolo Boffin   Aug-22-09 10:43 PM   #119 
                                            - Still flinging poo? nt  procopia   Aug-23-09 07:15 AM   #120 
                                            - NO, you're swallowing it...  SDuderstadt   Aug-23-09 08:08 AM   #121 
                                            - Look who's talking  procopia   Aug-23-09 03:38 PM   #126 
                                            - So, where's the groundswell of support from the...  SDuderstadt   Aug-23-09 04:35 PM   #129 
                                            - Has the scientific community spoken out publicly?  procopia   Aug-23-09 06:18 PM   #131 
                                            - How you know which side the scientific community is on.  Bolo Boffin   Aug-23-09 06:19 PM   #133 
                                            - You listed 41 authors,  procopia   Aug-23-09 08:04 PM   #136 
                                            - Did all 700 "architects" and "engineers" in your group publish....  SDuderstadt   Aug-23-09 08:07 PM   #137 
                                            - One is not required to publish papers  procopia   Aug-23-09 08:12 PM   #139 
                                            - Oh, I see...  SDuderstadt   Aug-23-09 08:15 PM   #140 
                                            - You forgot to count the actual scientists who reviewed those papers and granted permission  Bolo Boffin   Aug-23-09 09:06 PM   #142 
                                            - Jones didn't pay to get published  procopia   Aug-23-09 10:01 PM   #143 
                                            - Please prove both those claims. n/t  SDuderstadt   Aug-23-09 10:02 PM   #144 
                                            - No problem:  procopia   Aug-23-09 10:29 PM   #146 
                                            - Wait a minute...  SDuderstadt   Aug-23-09 10:38 PM   #147 
                                            - You're too funny  procopia   Aug-23-09 11:00 PM   #148 
                                            - WTF?  SDuderstadt   Aug-23-09 11:10 PM   #152 
                                            - It wasn't about himself  procopia   Aug-23-09 11:20 PM   #156 
                                            - Clearly how you described that information isn't what Jones said.  Bolo Boffin   Aug-23-09 11:29 PM   #159 
                                            - You're wrong  procopia   Aug-23-09 11:33 PM   #162 
                                            - Read what he wrote again...he states that the university of the 1st or 2nd..  SDuderstadt   Aug-23-09 11:39 PM   #168 
                                            - Ah, yes, I see. But you're wrong about the BYU guy being one of the reviewers. n/t  Bolo Boffin   Aug-23-09 11:40 PM   #169 
                                            - The BYU physics dept. chair internally reviewed the paper  procopia   Aug-23-09 11:45 PM   #171 
                                            - Why do you rely on Jones' statement?  SDuderstadt   Aug-23-09 11:48 PM   #172 
                                            - He's a credible source.  procopia   Aug-24-09 12:06 AM   #179 
                                            - So your source on your source is the source himself?  SDuderstadt   Aug-24-09 12:11 AM   #180 
                                            - Are you about tired of this game? nt  procopia   Aug-24-09 12:26 AM   #184 
                                            - But he wasn't part of the peer review and you definitely tried to imply that. n/t  Bolo Boffin   Aug-23-09 11:58 PM   #178 
                                            - He wasn't part of the BENTHAM peer review  procopia   Aug-24-09 12:19 AM   #182 
                                            - Well, you did imply that he was.  Bolo Boffin   Aug-24-09 12:47 AM   #187 
                                            - It's YOUR claim...  SDuderstadt   Aug-23-09 11:34 PM   #163 
                                            - I'm not asking you to fact-check.  procopia   Aug-23-09 11:37 PM   #165 
                                            - It's YOUR claim....  SDuderstadt   Aug-23-09 11:41 PM   #170 
                                            - How do you presume to know the identity of one of the Bentham "peer reviewers"?  Bolo Boffin   Aug-23-09 11:02 PM   #150 
                                            - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-23-09 11:07 PM   #151 
                                            - Fucking unbelievable...  SDuderstadt   Aug-23-09 11:16 PM   #154 
                                            - Are you saying Jones lied?  procopia   Aug-23-09 11:31 PM   #161 
                                            - Well, he lied about finding thermite in those paint chips. n/t  Bolo Boffin   Aug-23-09 11:38 PM   #166 
                                            - Prove they are paint chips.  procopia   Aug-23-09 11:52 PM   #175 
                                            - Prove they're thermite.  Bolo Boffin   Aug-23-09 11:57 PM   #176 
                                            - OK  procopia   Aug-24-09 12:17 AM   #181 
                                            - Thermite isn't an explosive...  SDuderstadt   Aug-24-09 12:23 AM   #183 
                                            - Who said it was an explosive? nt  procopia   Aug-24-09 12:28 AM   #185 
                                            - So you're just going to continue to pretend that paper is worth anything.  Bolo Boffin   Aug-24-09 12:46 AM   #186 
                                            - So you're going to continue to pretend  procopia   Aug-24-09 09:45 PM   #188 
                                            - Dudette....  SDuderstadt   Aug-23-09 07:04 PM   #135 
                                            - No, I'm reminding you that the Harrit paper wasn't published in an actual scientific journal.  Bolo Boffin   Aug-23-09 11:26 AM   #124 
                                            - More poo  procopia   Aug-23-09 03:36 PM   #125 
                                            - That's good enough for Harrit et al. - it's not a part of the scientific community  Bolo Boffin   Aug-23-09 04:01 PM   #127 
                                            - According to whom?  procopia   Aug-23-09 04:22 PM   #128 
                                            - We aren't discussing a scientific paper. We're discussing Harrit et al. n/t  Bolo Boffin   Aug-23-09 04:52 PM   #130 
                                            - Can't/won't answer the question?  procopia   Aug-23-09 06:19 PM   #132 
                                            - I disagree with a premise you're trying to not talk about.  Bolo Boffin   Aug-23-09 06:21 PM   #134 
                                            - Still no answer?  procopia   Aug-23-09 08:10 PM   #138 
                                            - Who says it is? The burden of proof is on you to show that it is.  Bolo Boffin   Aug-23-09 09:04 PM   #141 
                                            - Your claim, your burden of proof nt  procopia   Aug-23-09 10:03 PM   #145 
                                            - I didn't write the Harrit paper. That's not my claim at all. n/t  Bolo Boffin   Aug-23-09 11:01 PM   #149 
                                            - Your claim:  procopia   Aug-23-09 11:14 PM   #153 
                                            - Wrong, dudette...  SDuderstadt   Aug-23-09 11:19 PM   #155 
                                            - Your claim is that it is, and you haven't shown that.  Bolo Boffin   Aug-23-09 11:25 PM   #157 
                                            - Weasel words nt  procopia   Aug-23-09 11:28 PM   #158 
                                            - No. You say it's a scientific paper. You offer no evidence of this.  Bolo Boffin   Aug-23-09 11:30 PM   #160 
                                            - What is your basis for this statement:  procopia   Aug-23-09 11:35 PM   #164 
                                            - It hasn't been published in a scientific journal.  Bolo Boffin   Aug-23-09 11:39 PM   #167 
                                            - Yeah  procopia   Aug-23-09 11:48 PM   #173 
                                            - And if Jones' paper makes sense,,,  SDuderstadt   Aug-23-09 11:52 PM   #174 
                                            - Well, there you go.  Bolo Boffin   Aug-23-09 11:58 PM   #177 
                             - His paper on Jesus starts with a predetermined result  hack89   Aug-21-09 06:22 AM   #110 
                                - His paper on Jesus was not a scientific research paper  procopia   Aug-21-09 07:04 AM   #111 
                                   - NIST's process was a public one  hack89   Aug-21-09 07:57 AM   #112 
                 - It is the OCters that depend on scientific ignorance! nt  wildbilln864   Aug-18-09 07:17 PM   #88 
              - It seems most people from the OCT are here for fun and they enjoy posting in the outlandish threads  jakeXT   Aug-18-09 11:26 AM   #44 
                 - OPs that are not outlandish are rare  Realityhack   Aug-18-09 11:31 AM   #46 
  - Someone photoshop the Grovelbot with the Freemasonic apron as it's always #33 haha  Bushknew   Aug-17-09 04:37 PM   #12 
  - Just to spite you, Grovelbot did post #32 in this thread.  Bolo Boffin   Aug-17-09 11:56 PM   #34 
     - They changed it!!! I guess it was too obvious hee hee.  Bushknew   Aug-18-09 11:33 AM   #48 
  - ## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ##  DU GrovelBot   Aug-17-09 11:34 PM   #32 
  - If you're not going to actually respond to the OP, don't bother replying. ( n/t )  Make7   Aug-17-09 11:47 PM   #33 
  - Considering how contentious the threads get in the 9/11 forum, I can see  Mist   Aug-18-09 09:50 AM   #37 
  - I disagree... here's why-  MrMickeysMom   Aug-18-09 10:17 AM   #41 
     - Sure. We can start...  Realityhack   Aug-18-09 11:33 AM   #47 
     - Is that what you'd prefer for anyone posting?  MrMickeysMom   Aug-18-09 11:54 AM   #50 
        - MMM. I was pointing out...  Realityhack   Aug-18-09 12:31 PM   #53 
           - That may be so...  MrMickeysMom   Aug-18-09 12:35 PM   #54 
              - No it is not in any way mutually exclusive.  Realityhack   Aug-18-09 12:40 PM   #55 
                 - Precisely...  MrMickeysMom   Aug-18-09 12:57 PM   #58 
                    - Nope it is defined in the rules.  Realityhack   Aug-18-09 01:14 PM   #62 
                       - Wouldn't "reasonable people" leave most truthers....  SDuderstadt   Aug-18-09 01:16 PM   #63 
                       - Yes it would.  Realityhack   Aug-18-09 01:48 PM   #65 
                       - Please provide that link...  MrMickeysMom   Aug-18-09 01:49 PM   #66 
                          - Excuse me....  SDuderstadt   Aug-18-09 01:52 PM   #67 
                          - You is such a nut, I swears to God  MrMickeysMom   Aug-18-09 04:22 PM   #74 
                             - Um... are you trying to sound like Sara Palin or is that accidental? n/t  Realityhack   Aug-18-09 04:26 PM   #77 
                             - Gee, I haven't been studying her, so I wouldn't know. n/t  MrMickeysMom   Aug-18-09 04:30 PM   #80 
                             - I'm actually convinced that MMM IS...  SDuderstadt   Aug-18-09 05:34 PM   #85 
                             - If you'd remember correctly....  SDuderstadt   Aug-18-09 05:32 PM   #84 
                          - There is a link to the rules at the botom of every page.  Realityhack   Aug-18-09 02:29 PM   #70 
                             - Yep, you're right...  MrMickeysMom   Aug-18-09 04:25 PM   #76 
                                - Your wecome I guess. n/t  Realityhack   Aug-18-09 04:26 PM   #78 
                                   - No, really...  MrMickeysMom   Aug-18-09 04:41 PM   #81 
                                      - You are quite correct.  Realityhack   Aug-18-09 04:53 PM   #83 
                                      - Yeah, it probably does...  MrMickeysMom   Aug-18-09 08:55 PM   #90 
                                         - I'll debate single bullet theory with you anytime, MMM...  SDuderstadt   Aug-18-09 09:00 PM   #91 
                                            - I already have been debating it...  MrMickeysMom   Aug-18-09 09:12 PM   #93 
                                               - Do you honestly deny that you called me a "fucking pussy"?  SDuderstadt   Aug-18-09 09:29 PM   #96 
                                               - Oh MY !  MrMickeysMom   Aug-18-09 09:48 PM   #100 
                                               - All the hand-waving and distraction doesn't work, dudette...  SDuderstadt   Aug-18-09 09:55 PM   #101 
                                               - I find it interesting...  MrMickeysMom   Aug-20-09 07:36 AM   #104 
                                               - Typical MMM  SDuderstadt   Aug-20-09 08:22 AM   #105 
                                      - You first, MMM...n/t  SDuderstadt   Aug-18-09 05:36 PM   #86 
                                         - Oh, no... I insist...  MrMickeysMom   Aug-18-09 09:28 PM   #95 
                                            - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Aug-18-09 09:31 PM   #97 
     - I've seen this a lot lately  Ohio Joe   Aug-18-09 11:41 AM   #49 
     - I'll clarify one more time...  MrMickeysMom   Aug-18-09 12:01 PM   #51 
        - ahhh, I see. I don't agree but I see.  Ohio Joe   Aug-18-09 12:28 PM   #52 
           - I don't think you understood very well what I wrote...  MrMickeysMom   Aug-18-09 12:51 PM   #56 
              - I understand just fine, you don't seem to though  Ohio Joe   Aug-18-09 01:36 PM   #64 
                 - Believe me, NOTHING you said backed up ANYTHING you wanted me to "understand"!  MrMickeysMom   Aug-18-09 02:20 PM   #68 
                    - DU is not run by it's members.  Realityhack   Aug-18-09 02:32 PM   #71 
                    - It may be Skinner's board, true-  MrMickeysMom   Aug-18-09 04:28 PM   #79 
                       - What democratic process would that be?  Realityhack   Aug-18-09 04:42 PM   #82 
                          - Yeah, but...  MrMickeysMom   Aug-18-09 09:05 PM   #92 
                    - you guys are too funny  Ohio Joe   Aug-18-09 02:36 PM   #72 
     - Reply to Post #41-Good pointsbut the disrupters would just continue their routines, I'm thinking. nt  Mist   Aug-18-09 12:54 PM   #57 
        - Then, just like so many others who have been...  MrMickeysMom   Aug-18-09 12:59 PM   #60 
           - Funny....  SDuderstadt   Aug-18-09 01:07 PM   #61 
              - To tell the truth...  MrMickeysMom   Aug-18-09 02:24 PM   #69 
                 - I can see how the phrase...  SDuderstadt   Aug-18-09 04:14 PM   #73 
                    - Bbbbraawwk!  MrMickeysMom   Aug-18-09 04:23 PM   #75 
                       - I LOVE your picture...  SDuderstadt   Aug-18-09 05:37 PM   #87 
                          - You always wondered what I "look like"?  MrMickeysMom   Aug-18-09 09:26 PM   #94 
                             - Define "normal" n/t  SDuderstadt   Aug-18-09 09:33 PM   #98 
                             - hey your pretty cute  Pharaoh   Aug-23-09 09:37 AM   #122 
                             - Ahh, but will they ever respect me?  MrMickeysMom   Aug-25-09 12:04 AM   #189 
                                - It's nice having a face to match with the posts. n/t  Bolo Boffin   Aug-25-09 12:08 AM   #190 
                                   - Yes, thank you...  MrMickeysMom   Aug-25-09 12:30 AM   #191 
                                      - How rude. n/t  Bolo Boffin   Aug-25-09 01:49 AM   #192 
                                      - Yes, you were rude...  MrMickeysMom   Aug-25-09 09:22 AM   #198 
                                         - I said it was nice to have a picture to go with your posts. That's rude?  Bolo Boffin   Aug-25-09 11:53 AM   #203 
                                            - MMM thinks anything a debunker has to say is automatically...  SDuderstadt   Aug-25-09 11:55 AM   #204 
                                            - That's right!  MrMickeysMom   Aug-25-09 12:13 PM   #205 
                                            - Nah, you weren't rude for that comment at all...  MrMickeysMom   Aug-25-09 12:16 PM   #206 
                                      - I'm pretty sure Bolo did not snap the pic of you and Burt Lancaster...  SDuderstadt   Aug-25-09 09:10 AM   #196 
                                         - Oh, please grow up  MrMickeysMom   Aug-25-09 09:21 AM   #197 
                                         - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-25-09 09:24 AM   #199 
                                            - You don't think Skip looks like Burt Lancaster?  SDuderstadt   Aug-25-09 10:20 AM   #201 
                                               - Oh, for God's sake...  MrMickeysMom   Aug-25-09 12:18 PM   #207 
                             - Burt Lancaster is still...  SDuderstadt   Aug-23-09 09:42 AM   #123 
  - has been my policy also! nt  wildbilln864   Aug-18-09 07:36 PM   #89 
  - but that would make them visible!  omega minimo   Aug-25-09 02:52 AM   #193 
  - Yes, you're posting in an invisible forum. n/t  Bolo Boffin   Aug-25-09 02:53 AM   #194 
     - Where The Three Blind Mice hold sway  omega minimo   Aug-25-09 05:52 AM   #195 
  - Error: You can't recommend threads from this forum.  rhymeandreason   Aug-25-09 09:45 AM   #200 
  - I don't think DU wants "truther" nuttiness...  SDuderstadt   Aug-25-09 10:21 AM   #202 
     - You have little idea about that...  MrMickeysMom   Aug-25-09 12:24 PM   #208 
  - Locking  undergroundrailroad   Aug-25-09 12:40 PM   #209 
 

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