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| 24. Maybe the nose of the plane had been recently reinforced |
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with several layers of concrete... not.
The nose of the plane is relatively fragile and it is inconceiveable that it would have stayed intact through those reinforced walls to produce a perfectly round hole larger than itself.
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| -So who can answer my question? What part of the plane punched a hole thru the far wall |
lovepg |
Aug-15-09 12:11 AM |
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Read Firefight by Creed and Newman. n/t |
Bolo Boffin |
Aug-15-09 04:17 AM |
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I may have to read this my self...thanks Bolo |
vincent_vega_lives |
Aug-15-09 08:28 AM |
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Yeah, thank goodness people keep producing these works of fiction for you to cling to |
whatchamacallit |
Aug-15-09 01:18 PM |
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I'm willing to bet that you know nothing about the book yet... |
SDuderstadt |
Aug-15-09 01:21 PM |
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I guarantee you |
vincent_vega_lives |
Aug-15-09 08:24 AM |
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What else could it be but an airplane part or a big chunk of debris? |
hack89 |
Aug-15-09 09:19 AM |
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What difference does it make what part(s) of the plane or building |
LARED |
Aug-15-09 10:58 AM |
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Pretty neat trick |
rollingrock |
Aug-15-09 12:20 PM |
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I am going to make an educated guess here... |
Realityhack |
Aug-15-09 01:06 PM |
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Yes |
rollingrock |
Aug-15-09 01:16 PM |
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You said it was supposedly |
Realityhack |
Aug-15-09 01:25 PM |
#13 |
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I would guess RR's source to be: |
SDuderstadt |
Aug-15-09 01:29 PM |
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If the plane did not disintegrate |
rollingrock |
Aug-15-09 03:52 PM |
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Queston dodging. Your doing it. n/t |
Realityhack |
Aug-15-09 03:59 PM |
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No, you are. n/t |
rollingrock |
Aug-15-09 04:06 PM |
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See #17 |
Realityhack |
Aug-17-09 05:53 AM |
#109 |
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Whenever you ask an OCTer |
rollingrock |
Aug-15-09 03:56 PM |
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Desintegrating on impact... |
Realityhack |
Aug-15-09 03:59 PM |
#17 |
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I should add... |
Realityhack |
Aug-15-09 04:01 PM |
#19 |
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So now you're admitting it disintegrated |
rollingrock |
Aug-15-09 04:16 PM |
#21 |
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For fucks sake... read the post. before responding. |
Realityhack |
Aug-17-09 05:57 AM |
#110 |
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dis-integrated |
vincent_vega_lives |
Aug-17-09 07:51 AM |
#122 |
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Find one instance where any of us said that.... |
SDuderstadt |
Aug-15-09 10:01 PM |
#37 |
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Dude! And it only took 37 posts! |
lovepg |
Aug-16-09 05:26 PM |
#88 |
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Aggggh |
vincent_vega_lives |
Aug-16-09 06:12 AM |
#40 |
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I find it unlikely... |
Realityhack |
Aug-17-09 05:59 AM |
#111 |
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Unfortunately the Pentagonresearch.com site is gone |
spooked911 |
Aug-15-09 12:41 PM |
#7 |
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Here: |
Subdivisions |
Aug-15-09 12:46 PM |
#8 |
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Your question includes a false premise. |
BuddyBoy |
Aug-15-09 04:21 PM |
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Tell that to the parents who put their kids on Flight 77 that day. n/t |
Bolo Boffin |
Aug-15-09 06:08 PM |
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Some or all of them probably know the truth by now, however, |
BuddyBoy |
Aug-15-09 07:31 PM |
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So, how much do you charge to let people kill your kid? |
jberryhill |
Aug-15-09 07:47 PM |
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Are you asking how much $ relatives of those who were killed |
BuddyBoy |
Aug-15-09 08:12 PM |
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So those whose children were killed at the Pentagon and know about 9/11 |
LARED |
Aug-15-09 09:31 PM |
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Yes, it IS a despicable thought. |
BuddyBoy |
Aug-16-09 08:32 AM |
#41 |
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So to be clear, you believe |
LARED |
Aug-16-09 11:52 AM |
#60 |
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Sometimes perps do get caught despite efforts to keep things quiet |
BuddyBoy |
Aug-16-09 09:32 AM |
#48 |
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The planes, if they existed, seem to have landed . . . probably thought they were |
defendandprotect |
Aug-16-09 06:28 PM |
#95 |
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This is precisely why your bullshit is so... |
SDuderstadt |
Aug-15-09 10:05 PM |
#39 |
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Bullsh** |
BuddyBoy |
Aug-16-09 08:44 AM |
#43 |
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My time and how I use it is... |
SDuderstadt |
Aug-16-09 09:34 AM |
#49 |
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No one is disputing your right to divert attention from the truth. |
BuddyBoy |
Aug-16-09 12:30 PM |
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As evidenced by allowing your non-stop BS to be posted nt |
LARED |
Aug-16-09 01:12 PM |
#64 |
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Said Lared, while staring into a mirror. |
BuddyBoy |
Aug-16-09 02:27 PM |
#67 |
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Hummm, a no-planer calling someone out for posting BS. |
LARED |
Aug-16-09 03:16 PM |
#71 |
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Yes. |
BuddyBoy |
Aug-16-09 03:23 PM |
#73 |
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Why don't you post a poll asking how many here support "no-planes"? |
SDuderstadt |
Aug-16-09 04:08 PM |
#80 |
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That isn't appropriate. |
Realityhack |
Aug-17-09 06:05 AM |
#113 |
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Silly LARED. That's their job. |
Bolo Boffin |
Aug-16-09 03:44 PM |
#74 |
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I should invoke "the rule" nt |
LARED |
Aug-16-09 03:50 PM |
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"horning in"? It's been a complete takeover for many years. |
BuddyBoy |
Aug-16-09 03:50 PM |
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I'm certain medical science has progressed to the point |
LARED |
Aug-16-09 03:54 PM |
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Dude.... |
SDuderstadt |
Aug-16-09 04:06 PM |
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How do you propose a new rule on DU? |
Realityhack |
Aug-17-09 06:03 AM |
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your up for alot of censorship lately arent you hack ? |
Twist_U_Up |
Aug-18-09 07:15 PM |
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An astonishing number of relatives of people on the "planes" have made no claim . . . |
defendandprotect |
Aug-16-09 06:22 PM |
#93 |
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Please provide some astonishing links to this astonishing assertion. |
Maru Kitteh |
Aug-18-09 02:04 AM |
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Where were they at the sites where the planes were supposedly landing??? |
defendandprotect |
Aug-16-09 06:20 PM |
#92 |
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Families of victims on the planes are ALWAYS included in annual mermorials. |
Maru Kitteh |
Aug-18-09 02:15 AM |
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More of your bullshit, BB... |
SDuderstadt |
Aug-15-09 10:03 PM |
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There is no such thing as gravity, and the moon is made of cheese. |
chrisa |
Aug-17-09 08:22 PM |
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Maybe the nose of the plane had been recently reinforced |
undeterred |
Aug-15-09 07:06 PM |
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Who ever said it was the plane's nose? |
hack89 |
Aug-15-09 07:36 PM |
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... |
undeterred |
Aug-15-09 07:43 PM |
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I figured that was to subtle for truthers |
hack89 |
Aug-15-09 07:50 PM |
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Trying to be funny again, I see. |
BuddyBoy |
Aug-15-09 08:18 PM |
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I see you read the report and would like to discuss... |
Realityhack |
Aug-17-09 06:08 AM |
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Exactly. An explosion of some kind, yes. Airplane or part? NO. |
BuddyBoy |
Aug-15-09 08:16 PM |
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What kind of explosion? |
hack89 |
Aug-15-09 08:27 PM |
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See post #7. Makes sense to me. Who planted the debris? |
BuddyBoy |
Aug-15-09 08:43 PM |
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So they blasted a incriminating hole that serves no purpose |
hack89 |
Aug-15-09 09:05 PM |
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Maybe it was planned to mimic the WTC Pinnocchio |
BuddyBoy |
Aug-16-09 08:41 AM |
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So you can't explain the damage patterns inside the Pentagon? |
hack89 |
Aug-16-09 08:49 AM |
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Only the perps know for sure. |
BuddyBoy |
Aug-16-09 08:55 AM |
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But the pictures are available for you to look at. |
hack89 |
Aug-16-09 09:10 AM |
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Interpreting incomplete evidence is an OGCT tactic. |
BuddyBoy |
Aug-16-09 09:14 AM |
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More evasion... |
SDuderstadt |
Aug-16-09 09:37 AM |
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Don't you first have to prove that explosives were used? |
hack89 |
Aug-16-09 09:41 AM |
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Explosives had to have been used since it wasn't a plane. |
BuddyBoy |
Aug-16-09 10:13 AM |
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Circular answer. |
SDuderstadt |
Aug-16-09 10:19 AM |
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Face it. Explosives are the only logical explanation. |
BuddyBoy |
Aug-16-09 10:23 AM |
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If explosives were the only logical solution... |
SDuderstadt |
Aug-16-09 10:27 AM |
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That IS the only logical explanation. Your theory is BS. |
BuddyBoy |
Aug-16-09 10:30 AM |
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More bullshit... |
SDuderstadt |
Aug-16-09 10:36 AM |
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I am actually happy with your answer |
hack89 |
Aug-16-09 11:10 AM |
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Don't be so modest about your efforts to "marginalize the truth..." |
BuddyBoy |
Aug-16-09 12:33 PM |
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And we are damn good at it, you have to admit |
hack89 |
Aug-16-09 12:40 PM |
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Yes. I agree with your subject line. |
BuddyBoy |
Aug-16-09 02:31 PM |
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More evasion from BB... |
SDuderstadt |
Aug-16-09 09:36 AM |
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Some have suggested a bunker buster for one . . . but I think also there were other explosives . . . |
defendandprotect |
Aug-16-09 06:37 PM |
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What kind of anti-missile system do you think was there? |
hack89 |
Aug-16-09 10:24 PM |
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Notice that I say, "they seeminly overlooked an anti-missile system" . . . |
defendandprotect |
Aug-16-09 11:35 PM |
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What missile would they be protecting the Pentagon from? |
hack89 |
Aug-17-09 06:12 AM |
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What missiles are we protecting against with Star Wars . . . ??? |
defendandprotect |
Aug-17-09 02:17 PM |
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ICBMs - that's easy |
hack89 |
Aug-17-09 02:27 PM |
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This actually goes in a direction that "truthers" don't understand when claiming... |
SDuderstadt |
Aug-17-09 02:32 PM |
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The "terrorists" have ICBM's . . . |
defendandprotect |
Aug-17-09 02:46 PM |
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You are more incoherent than normal - are you feeling ok? nt |
hack89 |
Aug-17-09 02:49 PM |
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If D& P were more incoherent than normal, how could anyone actually... |
SDuderstadt |
Aug-17-09 02:52 PM |
#128 |
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Translation: You need to revert to insults again . . . |
defendandprotect |
Aug-17-09 07:35 PM |
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"Truther" Logic |
SDuderstadt |
Aug-17-09 07:40 PM |
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What is that supposed to show? |
rollingrock |
Aug-16-09 02:10 PM |
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In other words |
rollingrock |
Aug-16-09 02:15 PM |
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Where was David Copperfield on 9/11? n/t |
BuddyBoy |
Aug-16-09 02:34 PM |
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Now here's something else |
rollingrock |
Aug-16-09 02:47 PM |
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Where to begin. |
hack89 |
Aug-16-09 03:21 PM |
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Green aircraft primer? lol |
rollingrock |
Aug-16-09 03:53 PM |
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Once again |
hack89 |
Aug-16-09 04:16 PM |
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Pentagon walls |
rollingrock |
Aug-16-09 04:39 PM |
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What is the source of this info/graphic? |
SDuderstadt |
Aug-16-09 04:44 PM |
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Do you enjoy eating crow? |
rollingrock |
Aug-16-09 05:02 PM |
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Dude... |
SDuderstadt |
Aug-16-09 05:06 PM |
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Fair enough |
rollingrock |
Aug-16-09 05:25 PM |
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I fucking DID ask! |
SDuderstadt |
Aug-16-09 05:29 PM |
#89 |
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He did ask... |
Realityhack |
Aug-17-09 06:23 AM |
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This is explains why |
vincent_vega_lives |
Aug-17-09 07:14 AM |
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No - that is the outer wall |
hack89 |
Aug-16-09 05:45 PM |
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It was REINFORCED concrete and STEEL . . . |
defendandprotect |
Aug-16-09 06:43 PM |
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No - it was 4 million for business for business software |
hack89 |
Aug-17-09 08:41 PM |
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you guys love to make shit up ROFL |
snooper2 |
Aug-21-09 01:26 PM |
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'Two separate failure modes' |
rollingrock |
Aug-16-09 05:14 PM |
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Bricks under stress act differently then concrete |
hack89 |
Aug-16-09 05:48 PM |
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Non-sequiter |
rollingrock |
Aug-16-09 06:25 PM |
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Are you deliberately being obtuse? |
hack89 |
Aug-16-09 10:17 PM |
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Ahh... |
Realityhack |
Aug-17-09 06:32 AM |
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How is he revealing any such thing?... |
lovepg |
Aug-18-09 02:32 AM |
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"six more concrete walls, making large, neat round holes in each of them" |
Realityhack |
Aug-17-09 06:40 AM |
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First, the "Magic Bullet" and now the "Magic Plane" . . . !!! |
defendandprotect |
Aug-17-09 08:11 PM |
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Wow -- never saw that junk pile in front of the HOLE before . . . |
defendandprotect |
Aug-16-09 06:34 PM |
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In fact, it could have been a train . .. ???? |
defendandprotect |
Aug-16-09 06:31 PM |
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I hereby nominate this as... |
SDuderstadt |
Aug-16-09 06:40 PM |
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I don't know |
Realityhack |
Aug-17-09 06:26 AM |
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Maybe one of the Pentagon employees brought an IED |
undeterred |
Aug-16-09 07:57 PM |
#102 |
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You misunderstand |
hack89 |
Aug-16-09 10:20 PM |
#104 |
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And . . . |
defendandprotect |
Aug-16-09 11:38 PM |
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Since I know you have seen the pictures of the engine parts and landing gear |
hack89 |
Aug-17-09 06:10 AM |
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I love watching the guy who explains how the wings of the plane peeled back . . . |
defendandprotect |
Aug-17-09 07:56 PM |
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The hole was 85 feet wide - stop lying. |
hack89 |
Aug-17-09 08:54 PM |
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The hole was 20' X 15' until 45 minutes or more AFTER the "plane" went thru . . . |
defendandprotect |
Aug-17-09 08:57 PM |
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the hole was 100' long and 10' high |
vincent_vega_lives |
Aug-18-09 11:33 AM |
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Very funny response . . . |
defendandprotect |
Aug-16-09 06:30 PM |
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Why do you think it was the nose? |
hack89 |
Aug-16-09 10:22 PM |
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Hack the study you gave me the link for, shows at least eight of the columns.. |
lovepg |
Aug-17-09 10:34 PM |
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If you actually read the entire study |
hack89 |
Aug-18-09 10:13 AM |
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No i won't cause i read it and the report does not say what caused the punch out hole. |
lovepg |
Aug-18-09 12:21 PM |
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ANSWER; Same part of plane that sliced thru center core of steel in WTC--!!! |
defendandprotect |
Aug-17-09 07:48 PM |
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A missle could |
Xenotime |
Aug-23-09 07:32 AM |
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But a missile couldn't also make the damage to the front of the building. |
hack89 |
Aug-23-09 08:00 AM |
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Only explosive devices could do that. Remember the cordite ... |
BuddyBoy |
Aug-23-09 08:28 AM |
#149 |
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Cordite is not a high explosive and has not been use since WWII |
hack89 |
Aug-23-09 10:51 AM |
#150 |
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Are you accusing them of lying? |
BuddyBoy |
Aug-23-09 12:42 PM |
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Cordite is smokeless gunpowder - it is a propellant |
hack89 |
Aug-23-09 03:12 PM |
#152 |
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Perhaps they meant to say they smelled the propellant from a can of Secret |
lovepg |
Aug-23-09 03:21 PM |
#153 |
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