MercutioATC
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Wed Dec-01-04 11:38 AM
Response to Reply #62 |
| 63. I don't think I ever saw his website. n/t |
| -Two questions to MercutioATC (and RH too) |
FannySS |
Nov-26-04 04:54 PM |
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"could it direct a 757 on the facade at plus/minus 1 or 2 meters?" |
Old and In the Way |
Nov-26-04 05:24 PM |
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That´s not my point... |
FannySS |
Nov-26-04 05:35 PM |
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Hani bothering |
John Doe II |
Nov-27-04 03:31 AM |
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I have not yet any data |
RH |
Nov-27-04 07:45 AM |
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Commission Report |
John Doe II |
Nov-27-04 09:52 AM |
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Huh? |
RH |
Nov-27-04 02:31 PM |
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Huh! |
John Doe II |
Nov-27-04 03:20 PM |
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radius |
Make7 |
Nov-27-04 06:12 PM |
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Cryptic |
k-robjoe |
Nov-28-04 08:31 AM |
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A 330 degree turn... |
Make7 |
Nov-29-04 02:59 AM |
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Intended target or change of plan |
John Doe II |
Nov-29-04 04:24 AM |
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The plane was lined up |
RH |
Nov-29-04 09:20 AM |
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Could it be, that .. |
FannySS |
Nov-29-04 10:07 AM |
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As far as I know |
John Doe II |
Nov-29-04 11:41 AM |
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Olson was informed, and |
FannySS |
Nov-29-04 12:00 PM |
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No, I'm not a pilot |
John Doe II |
Nov-29-04 12:46 PM |
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Consider the geography. |
RH |
Nov-29-04 07:57 PM |
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Towards the sun |
John Doe II |
Dec-01-04 07:22 AM |
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Ok |
John Doe II |
Nov-29-04 10:58 AM |
#38 |
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turn |
k-robjoe |
Nov-29-04 08:38 AM |
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So why not |
RH |
Nov-29-04 09:10 AM |
#32 |
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Stall |
k-robjoe |
Dec-07-04 09:31 AM |
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Is there any evidence that places Hani at the controls of FL 77? |
Abe Linkman |
Dec-07-04 09:39 AM |
#74 |
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I have seen nothing |
RH |
Dec-07-04 10:25 AM |
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I actually had a similar discussion about a month ago |
AZCat |
Dec-07-04 10:34 AM |
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Hani "The Boy Wonder" pilot WAS allegedly landing |
Abe Linkman |
Dec-07-04 11:24 AM |
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That's a complete misrepresentation. |
MercutioATC |
Dec-07-04 12:26 PM |
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Any misrepresentation is in YOUR message, Mr - not mine.. |
Abe Linkman |
Dec-07-04 01:03 PM |
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You're still avoiding the issue. |
MercutioATC |
Dec-07-04 02:02 PM |
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You're certainly entitled to your opinion. (even if it isn't just yours |
Abe Linkman |
Dec-07-04 03:59 PM |
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As are you. |
MercutioATC |
Dec-07-04 08:30 PM |
#88 |
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Here we go again with another UNPROVEN, false premise. |
Abe Linkman |
Dec-07-04 09:20 PM |
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Unproven and false? Like a missile? |
MercutioATC |
Dec-08-04 05:45 AM |
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The pilot wasn't landing in the normal sense |
AZCat |
Dec-07-04 02:49 PM |
#82 |
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Yes, pilots (with senority in the majors) are paid a lot. |
MercutioATC |
Dec-07-04 03:01 PM |
#83 |
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I deal mostly with part 135 and JAA pilots |
AZCat |
Dec-07-04 03:14 PM |
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I'm not too concerned about the rat brain... |
MercutioATC |
Dec-07-04 08:19 PM |
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NOTHING was normal about Hani's flying skills, were they? |
Abe Linkman |
Dec-07-04 04:03 PM |
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Tell you what, Abe... |
MercutioATC |
Dec-08-04 06:04 AM |
#91 |
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Maybe you could try out this |
k-robjoe |
Dec-11-04 08:55 AM |
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Looks like the hard way... |
tngledwebb |
Dec-11-04 10:43 AM |
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How do you work that out? |
RH |
Dec-11-04 02:54 PM |
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We don´t know |
k-robjoe |
Dec-11-04 04:07 PM |
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Hasn't "Mercutio ATC" referred you to the ASCE report yet? |
Abe Linkman |
Dec-11-04 03:09 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Dec-11-04 07:04 PM |
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What falls away -- or disappears into the electronic ink wastebasket |
Abe Linkman |
Dec-11-04 07:25 PM |
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You're an intelligent man, Abe. Just respond to the ASCE report. |
MercutioATC |
Dec-12-04 02:15 AM |
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Isn't the definition of insanity... |
AZCat |
Dec-12-04 02:23 AM |
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Point taken. I'm just an idealist. |
MercutioATC |
Dec-12-04 02:31 AM |
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No problem |
AZCat |
Dec-12-04 02:39 AM |
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Thanks. |
MercutioATC |
Dec-12-04 02:44 AM |
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Sure! The same goes here |
AZCat |
Dec-12-04 02:52 AM |
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Sim time (even just observing) would be really cool. |
MercutioATC |
Dec-12-04 02:59 AM |
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We've got a whole crop of sims |
AZCat |
Dec-12-04 03:08 AM |
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Just let me know...I've lived here for the past 29 years (since I was 8). |
MercutioATC |
Dec-12-04 03:14 AM |
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Yeah - that would be great |
AZCat |
Dec-12-04 03:24 AM |
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Looking forward to it...(BTW, I live in Westlake) |
MercutioATC |
Dec-12-04 03:28 AM |
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Repeatedly responding to legitimate questions by referring to a ....... |
Abe Linkman |
Dec-12-04 09:43 AM |
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What standard or criteria |
RH |
Dec-12-04 10:53 AM |
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Sure, I'll go on the record regarding the ASCE report |
AZCat |
Dec-13-04 03:30 PM |
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Pentagon Building Damage Assessment Report |
Abe Linkman |
Dec-13-04 03:35 PM |
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Wow - that was fast. |
AZCat |
Dec-13-04 03:41 PM |
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Thanks for the compliment. Since you ASCE, read this. |
Abe Linkman |
Dec-12-04 09:22 AM |
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So which of the ASCE reports conclusions do you disagree with, and why? |
MercutioATC |
Dec-12-04 10:01 AM |
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The ASCE report is propaganda. So, why would you ask such a question? |
Abe Linkman |
Dec-12-04 10:55 AM |
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So you don't have a response? |
MercutioATC |
Dec-12-04 11:06 AM |
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The sole purpose of the ASCE report was to provide cover for a lie. |
Abe Linkman |
Dec-12-04 11:14 AM |
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The purpose of the ASCE report was to reach conclusions on the damage |
MercutioATC |
Dec-12-04 03:46 PM |
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You could say the same thing about the "magic bullet theory" |
Abe Linkman |
Dec-12-04 04:00 PM |
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Ok, you said "magic bullet"...so you disagree with SPECIFICS of the |
MercutioATC |
Dec-12-04 04:10 PM |
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ASCE report is propaganda. As w/WCR, it is BS from the get-go. |
Abe Linkman |
Dec-12-04 06:25 PM |
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So you can't refute any of the ASCE report's conclusions? |
MercutioATC |
Dec-12-04 07:45 PM |
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ASCE report is propaganda. It's "conclusions" don't mean anything. |
Abe Linkman |
Dec-12-04 08:00 PM |
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You're the one who first mentioned the ASCE report in this thread... |
MercutioATC |
Dec-12-04 08:56 PM |
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Official purpose of ASCE report ( Pentagon Bldg. Performance Report) |
Abe Linkman |
Dec-12-04 09:17 PM |
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I have so many issues with that post that I don't know where to begin... |
MercutioATC |
Dec-12-04 09:35 PM |
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Wouldn't it be better if YOU could respond? I answered your question. |
Abe Linkman |
Dec-13-04 08:00 AM |
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M-atc: ASCE report question for you. (worthless report w/out an answer) |
Abe Linkman |
Dec-13-04 08:36 AM |
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The wings? They did the same thing as the fuselage... |
MercutioATC |
Dec-13-04 02:24 PM |
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See. The ASCE report IS worthless re: evid. FL 77 crashed at Pentagon |
Abe Linkman |
Dec-13-04 02:43 PM |
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Did we read the same report? |
MercutioATC |
Dec-13-04 04:39 PM |
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Where does it say that the aircraft disintegrated in seconds? |
Abe Linkman |
Dec-13-04 05:16 PM |
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Why are F-16 wings "allowed" to disintegrate and not 757 wings? |
MercutioATC |
Dec-13-04 09:00 PM |
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NO wings, no wing debris, NO B757 crashed. ASCE report useless. |
Abe Linkman |
Dec-13-04 09:14 PM |
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References |
Sweet Pea |
Dec-13-04 09:52 PM |
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NO wings debris was found in photos taken hours before cleanup began. |
Abe Linkman |
Dec-13-04 04:02 PM |
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Are you going to double-post in reply to ALL of my posts? |
MercutioATC |
Dec-13-04 04:43 PM |
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Malleable wings. |
seatnineb |
Dec-13-04 04:47 PM |
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And, remember what might be the "best" one of all: |
Abe Linkman |
Dec-13-04 05:07 PM |
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Yeah..... |
seatnineb |
Dec-13-04 05:51 PM |
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Speaking of the lampost brother Steve mentioned... |
Abe Linkman |
Dec-13-04 06:12 PM |
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Graduate in Pentagon physics.... |
seatnineb |
Dec-14-04 10:25 AM |
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As a highly--principled plenipotentiary unto himself, Ron will surely... |
Abe Linkman |
Dec-14-04 10:41 AM |
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So..... |
Sweet Pea |
Dec-13-04 11:42 PM |
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Here's a good book for you. I think you'll like it . |
Abe Linkman |
Dec-14-04 08:33 AM |
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Ok again... |
Sweet Pea |
Dec-14-04 09:21 PM |
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Ask where the F-16 wing pieces are at the Pentagon, Sweet Pea... |
MercutioATC |
Dec-15-04 05:51 AM |
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The purpose was to REACH conclusions. |
tngledwebb |
Dec-13-04 11:13 AM |
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Most investigations are performed to reach a conclusion. |
MercutioATC |
Dec-13-04 02:36 PM |
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WHERE in the ASCE report does it say that it's purpose was to reach... |
Abe Linkman |
Dec-13-04 11:20 AM |
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52 feet outside the building??? |
MercutioATC |
Dec-13-04 02:31 PM |
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So, you won't respond to a legitimate question. What are you afraid of? |
Abe Linkman |
Dec-12-04 11:15 AM |
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I have no problem answering your question...will you answer mine? |
MercutioATC |
Dec-12-04 04:06 PM |
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We don't have Boeing simulators at my center |
AZCat |
Dec-11-04 12:03 PM |
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Microsoft |
k-robjoe |
Dec-11-04 02:45 PM |
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Maybe the pilots are right |
AZCat |
Dec-11-04 07:21 PM |
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How can they be right? |
RH |
Dec-11-04 08:14 PM |
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That's what I mean (regarding lack of info) |
AZCat |
Dec-11-04 09:35 PM |
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Just out of curiosity... |
Sweet Pea |
Dec-12-04 12:56 AM |
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There are. I am not one of them |
AZCat |
Dec-12-04 01:37 AM |
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I thought the projected flight path |
Sweet Pea |
Dec-12-04 01:12 AM |
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You actually |
k-robjoe |
Dec-12-04 05:06 AM |
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thrust the ground? |
RH |
Dec-12-04 07:09 AM |
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Not sure if I get you right |
k-robjoe |
Dec-12-04 08:41 AM |
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The poles are taller. |
RH |
Dec-12-04 10:39 AM |
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Disagree |
k-robjoe |
Dec-12-04 01:30 PM |
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I am astounded. |
RH |
Dec-12-04 02:28 PM |
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One point |
k-robjoe |
Dec-12-04 05:23 PM |
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Look at |
RH |
Dec-12-04 06:51 PM |
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Very Interesting! |
k-robjoe |
Dec-13-04 04:07 AM |
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Where are the 24/7 ubiquitous answerers |
tngledwebb |
Dec-13-04 11:34 AM |
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Maybe they're hoping pesky 24/7 questioners of the OCT will go away.n/t |
Abe Linkman |
Dec-13-04 11:37 AM |
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Or having a beer and a gab-fest |
tngledwebb |
Dec-13-04 11:40 AM |
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Sorry Abe, while you are here... |
tngledwebb |
Dec-13-04 11:52 AM |
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No, it doesn't make a bit of sense to me. But, that's nothing. I never.. |
Abe Linkman |
Dec-13-04 12:00 PM |
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The same jet wake that Probst was immune to? |
seatnineb |
Dec-12-04 05:30 PM |
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Confused with the mast |
RH |
Dec-12-04 06:11 PM |
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That's right by my reckoning, |
RH |
Dec-12-04 06:58 AM |
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The plane |
k-robjoe |
Dec-12-04 08:59 AM |
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Now, there's a novel explanation if there ever was one. |
Abe Linkman |
Dec-12-04 09:48 AM |
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Not novel. |
RH |
Dec-12-04 10:44 AM |
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Abe Linkman agrees that the Official Conspiracy Theory is a lie. |
Abe Linkman |
Dec-12-04 11:03 AM |
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I thought you were more familiar with the questions about all that. |
Abe Linkman |
Dec-12-04 06:51 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Dec-12-04 08:43 PM |
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Ok...I'll bite |
Sweet Pea |
Dec-13-04 11:10 AM |
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What about the helicopter? |
seatnineb |
Dec-13-04 03:07 PM |
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Too much traffic might interfere with evidence planting |
Abe Linkman |
Dec-13-04 03:38 PM |
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Indeed Abe..... |
seatnineb |
Dec-13-04 05:02 PM |
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Amazing - you work for a flight simulator company, |
tngledwebb |
Dec-11-04 09:37 AM |
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Yes and no |
AZCat |
Dec-11-04 12:21 PM |
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Again, out of curiosity |
Sweet Pea |
Dec-12-04 04:24 PM |
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I do not know |
RH |
Dec-07-04 10:29 AM |
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Read the questions. |
RH |
Nov-28-04 05:48 AM |
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I admit |
John Doe II |
Nov-28-04 03:16 PM |
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"plus/minus 1 or 2 meters?" |
RH |
Nov-27-04 07:37 AM |
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That's her words. |
Old and In the Way |
Nov-27-04 11:23 AM |
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See post #2 |
RH |
Nov-27-04 02:42 PM |
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If anybody |
RH |
Nov-26-04 08:36 PM |
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power elite |
demodewd |
Nov-26-04 11:29 PM |
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I am not aware |
RH |
Nov-27-04 07:18 AM |
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re:great lengths |
demodewd |
Nov-27-04 02:18 PM |
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What is NO "red herring"? |
FannySS |
Nov-29-04 05:25 AM |
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I dont know who did it. |
RH |
Nov-29-04 08:20 PM |
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What do you think of the Bin Laden tapes? (nt) |
FannySS |
Nov-29-04 08:53 PM |
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Which of the tapes? |
RH |
Nov-30-04 10:33 AM |
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I doubt OBL knew any details |
TO Kid |
Nov-30-04 12:26 PM |
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Answers (as best I can provide them). |
MercutioATC |
Nov-27-04 12:04 AM |
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what about NORAD? |
demodewd |
Nov-27-04 01:04 AM |
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More answers: |
MercutioATC |
Nov-27-04 01:23 AM |
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intercepts |
demodewd |
Nov-27-04 02:46 PM |
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Laypersons often don't understand this... |
MercutioATC |
Nov-29-04 10:21 PM |
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Good sumarization, Mercutio n/t |
Sweet Pea |
Nov-28-04 09:42 AM |
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my reason to ask: |
FannySS |
Nov-28-04 09:54 AM |
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Predictability |
RH |
Nov-29-04 04:01 AM |
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Interesting! |
John Doe II |
Nov-29-04 04:27 AM |
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Stress |
John Doe II |
Dec-01-04 07:26 AM |
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I'm not a professional, and I don't play one on DU, |
tngledwebb |
Dec-01-04 10:19 AM |
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There is a ground effect, |
RH |
Dec-01-04 01:34 PM |
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I don´t understand you |
FannySS |
Nov-29-04 05:27 AM |
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Heed the evidence. |
RH |
Nov-29-04 09:23 AM |
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Well, |
tngledwebb |
Nov-29-04 10:26 AM |
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Your failure |
RH |
Nov-29-04 07:42 PM |
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You mean some fallen lamp posts |
tngledwebb |
Nov-30-04 04:21 AM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Nov-30-04 10:04 AM |
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But since what you say so often fits your personal attack, so be it. |
tngledwebb |
Nov-30-04 11:40 AM |
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I mean what I say. |
RH |
Nov-30-04 03:25 PM |
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Sorry, but you have written here many times that fallen lamp posts |
tngledwebb |
Dec-01-04 07:40 AM |
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That evidence |
RH |
Dec-01-04 10:17 AM |
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How don't the five lampposts fit the idea that AAL77 hit the Pentagon? |
MercutioATC |
Dec-01-04 10:27 AM |
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OK, but RHs website isn´t online anymore, that´s a pitty ... (nt) |
FannySS |
Dec-01-04 11:29 AM |
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I don't think I ever saw his website. n/t |
MercutioATC |
Dec-01-04 11:38 AM |
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Give not that |
RH |
Dec-01-04 01:22 PM |
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Eyewitnesses didn't report seeing anything hitting light poles |
Abe Linkman |
Dec-03-04 10:47 AM |
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Witnesses certainly did report seeing light poles hit. |
RH |
Dec-03-04 12:18 PM |
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Seeing light poles that had been hit isn't the same as seeing them GET hit |
Abe Linkman |
Dec-03-04 02:43 PM |
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Lime green problem, eh? |
DulceDecorum |
Dec-11-04 01:39 PM |
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I do not disagree. |
RH |
Dec-11-04 03:49 PM |
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I rest my case. |
DulceDecorum |
Dec-13-04 10:47 AM |
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It was meaningful enough |
RH |
Dec-01-04 01:25 PM |
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How do you figure? |
tngledwebb |
Dec-03-04 10:09 AM |
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Of course. |
RH |
Dec-03-04 12:21 PM |
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I wish I could :eyes: in the subject line of a post. |
MercutioATC |
Dec-03-04 07:32 PM |
#72 |
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Wish I could too. |
tngledwebb |
Dec-13-04 11:00 AM |
#162 |
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Still a bit cryptic for me |
John Doe II |
Nov-29-04 10:53 AM |
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I think that the outcome |
RH |
Nov-29-04 07:50 PM |
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remote control: accuracy of one to two meters is possible |
FannySS |
Nov-29-04 03:10 PM |
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Yes, but that's a civilian unit. The government would have access to |
MercutioATC |
Nov-29-04 10:25 PM |
#49 |