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15. Speaking as someone who doesn't believe the OCT, I derive no comfort from
contemplating that the US gov't apparently attacked US citizens.
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  -Turning the Tables: "The Joy of Conspiracy Denial" spooked911  May-25-09 09:04 AM   #0 
  - Easy way out is to accept the OCT  BeFree   May-25-09 10:04 AM   #1 
  - "a clearly defined enemy, a simple solution"  jberryhill   May-25-09 10:28 AM   #2 
  - Will there be a sequel entilted "The Joys of Willful Ignorance"  LARED   May-25-09 10:52 AM   #3 
  - uh, because they've done some research and seen the official story is crap  spooked911   May-25-09 11:31 AM   #4 
  - Googling on teh internets for a few hours is not research. n/t  AZCat   May-25-09 12:01 PM   #5 
  - +1 n/t  Realityhack   May-25-09 11:02 PM   #9 
  - ...and you do real research . . . ???  defendandprotect   May-31-09 10:43 PM   #77 
     - "Truther logic"...  SDuderstadt   May-31-09 10:49 PM   #78 
     - Hypocrisy of OS HUggers  ATTC   Feb-26-10 11:30 AM   #153 
        - nonsense  OnTheOtherHand   Feb-26-10 11:47 AM   #154 
        - Actually  BeFree   Feb-27-10 09:49 PM   #156 
        - This may easily be the most...  SDuderstadt   Feb-27-10 07:46 PM   #155 
  - A few things Spooked911  LARED   May-25-09 12:39 PM   #6 
     - the problem-- assuming you're an honest broker here-- is that you are incredibly naive  spooked911   May-25-09 07:17 PM   #7 
        - Deep politics you claim  LARED   May-25-09 07:36 PM   #8 
           - No Planes  Kalun D   May-26-09 01:58 AM   #10 
              - Clearly sourced ?  LARED   May-26-09 04:40 AM   #12 
              - Clear as Mud=Disinfo  Kalun D   May-27-09 01:30 AM   #18 
                 - Huh?  LARED   May-27-09 05:15 AM   #21 
                    - The Video Age  Kalun D   May-28-09 01:41 AM   #47 
                       - Sure you do  LARED   May-28-09 05:36 AM   #50 
                          - Specifics  Kalun D   May-28-09 08:39 PM   #57 
                          - Uhhh  Kalun D   May-28-09 09:13 PM   #60 
              - I think Spooked is quite sincere /nt  jberryhill   Jun-12-09 09:43 PM   #120 
  - The fact that CTists think in terms of "turning the tables" on the rationalists  stopbush   Jun-05-09 02:51 PM   #114 
  - Good Post  Kalun D   May-26-09 02:13 AM   #11 
  - And Carol Cleveland is? (n/t)  vincent_vega_lives   May-26-09 09:36 AM   #13 
  - eh, that's moot  OnTheOtherHand   May-26-09 10:02 AM   #14 
  - Moot, yes it is  Kalun D   May-27-09 01:40 AM   #19 
     - I'm plenty sick of debating the semantics of "conspiracy theory"  OnTheOtherHand   May-27-09 05:19 AM   #22 
     - I'm sick of debating the semantics, and also sick of hearing the ad hominem.  eomer   May-27-09 12:09 PM   #37 
        - I remember you  Kalun D   May-28-09 12:53 AM   #45 
        - Yes  Kalun D   May-28-09 01:03 AM   #46 
        - for many of us that hasn't been the experience  OnTheOtherHand   May-28-09 05:48 AM   #52 
        - fine by me  OnTheOtherHand   May-28-09 05:46 AM   #51 
     - How binary of you  LARED   May-27-09 05:48 AM   #23 
        - yeah, that struck me too n/t  OnTheOtherHand   May-27-09 06:40 AM   #24 
  - Carol Cleveland is  achtung_circus   May-27-09 12:35 PM   #42 
  - Speaking as someone who doesn't believe the OCT, I derive no comfort from  Mist   May-26-09 10:21 AM   #15 
  - Strangely incomplete for what's supposed to be a psychological profile  William Seger   May-26-09 09:12 PM   #16 
  - No evidence?  BeFree   May-26-09 10:45 PM   #17 
     - No, there is not a shred of credible evidence ...  William Seger   May-27-09 01:58 AM   #20 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   May-27-09 08:23 AM   #25 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   May-27-09 09:53 AM   #26 
        - I'm completely comfortable with rational thinking...  William Seger   May-27-09 10:27 AM   #27 
           - Delusions?  BeFree   May-27-09 10:39 AM   #28 
              - Either you're being deliberately obtuse...  William Seger   May-27-09 10:58 AM   #29 
              - Bushco is a strawman?  BeFree   May-27-09 11:15 AM   #32 
                 - "OCT" is a strawman  Bolo Boffin   May-27-09 11:22 AM   #33 
                 - Your position is  William Seger   May-27-09 11:52 AM   #36 
                    - Wrong again  BeFree   May-27-09 12:15 PM   #38 
                       - ''the oct from bushco''  SDuderstadt   May-27-09 12:23 PM   #39 
                       - You're the one who is wrong. Again.  William Seger   May-28-09 10:42 AM   #54 
                          - Yep  BeFree   May-28-09 10:07 PM   #64 
              - you persist in promoting a flawed starting point...  SDuderstadt   May-27-09 11:08 AM   #30 
                 - Obsession with Bushco?  BeFree   May-27-09 11:13 AM   #31 
                    - you are serious with all this...  snooper2   May-27-09 11:26 AM   #34 
                    - of course, you dishonestly quote me by...  SDuderstadt   May-27-09 11:36 AM   #35 
                       - Quoting:  BeFree   May-27-09 12:28 PM   #40 
                          - the ''oct' is a strawman and so is your claim that...  SDuderstadt   May-27-09 12:34 PM   #41 
                             - Well  BeFree   May-27-09 12:45 PM   #43 
                             - if bush had ''control'' over the mass media...  SDuderstadt   May-27-09 02:36 PM   #44 
                                - The corp press  Kalun D   May-28-09 02:31 AM   #49 
                                - Say what?  BeFree   Jun-10-09 11:28 AM   #115 
                                   - No, the Commissioners didn't say it failed...  SDuderstadt   Jun-10-09 11:35 AM   #116 
                                      - That's it?  BeFree   Jun-10-09 11:45 AM   #117 
                                         - It isn't semantics, Be Free...  SDuderstadt   Jun-10-09 12:08 PM   #118 
                             - Official Conspiracy Theory  Kalun D   May-28-09 02:15 AM   #48 
                                - "arguing their side on straight up facts is so difficult" ??  William Seger   May-28-09 09:04 AM   #53 
                                - You assert:  BeFree   May-28-09 03:57 PM   #55 
                                - You're kidding, right? Most of what we know  William Seger   May-28-09 08:08 PM   #56 
                                   - finally specifics  Kalun D   May-28-09 09:09 PM   #59 
                                   - In other words...  William Seger   May-28-09 09:35 PM   #61 
                                   - How?  Kalun D   May-28-09 09:57 PM   #63 
                                      - How  William Seger   May-29-09 12:39 AM   #65 
                                      - KA-CHUNK  Kalun D   May-29-09 02:43 AM   #67 
                                      - Perhaps you didn't read what I wrote  William Seger   May-29-09 04:06 AM   #68 
                                      - I read exactly what you wrote  Kalun D   May-29-09 10:03 PM   #70 
                                      - No, I'm not changing what I said  William Seger   May-30-09 08:40 AM   #72 
                                      - Your story  Kalun D   May-31-09 06:15 PM   #73 
                                      - I wish you could find a way to post so that they're easy to follow  Marksbrother   May-31-09 09:19 PM   #74 
                                      - Quotes  Kalun D   Jun-01-09 07:47 PM   #87 
                                      - Arguing against what? Vague paranoid suspicions?  William Seger   May-31-09 09:32 PM   #76 
                                      - No normal mainifests, No video  Kalun D   Jun-01-09 09:41 PM   #89 
                                      - Does that mean it might well have been the 19 Arabs? Also,  Marksbrother   Jun-02-09 07:54 AM   #91 
                                      - Evidence  Kalun D   Jun-03-09 02:17 AM   #92 
                                      - Did patsies fly planes into WTC 1 and 2?  Marksbrother   Jun-03-09 07:50 AM   #93 
                                      - Not CGI  Kalun D   Jun-03-09 09:27 AM   #94 
                                      - Thanks. I don't agree, but I do appreciate knowing your thoughts.  Marksbrother   Jun-03-09 09:36 AM   #95 
                                      - Without taking sides, let me say that you are a tough  Marksbrother   May-29-09 05:58 AM   #69 
                                      - Thanks  Kalun D   May-29-09 10:18 PM   #71 
                                      - Why don't you do some research...  SDuderstadt   May-31-09 09:26 PM   #75 
                                      - This is all you ever get.  Kalun D   Jun-01-09 09:53 PM   #90 
                                   - AlQaeda is connected to CIA . . .  defendandprotect   May-31-09 11:11 PM   #81 
                                      - "AlQaeda was taken over the the Nazis prior to WWII"  SDuderstadt   May-31-09 11:13 PM   #83 
                                         - Yes, yes  LARED   Jun-01-09 07:54 PM   #88 
                                   - Heh  BeFree   May-28-09 09:55 PM   #62 
                                      - You guys just keep proving my point  William Seger   May-29-09 12:45 AM   #66 
                                      - Exactly . . .  defendandprotect   May-31-09 11:13 PM   #82 
                                         - I've come to realize that...  SDuderstadt   May-31-09 11:15 PM   #84 
                                            - I've come to realize that when you are forced to face reason...  JuniperLea   Jun-03-09 07:47 PM   #97 
                                            - Please point to any name I have called anyone...  SDuderstadt   Jun-03-09 08:38 PM   #100 
                                            - Truther... all over the place... eom  JuniperLea   Jun-04-09 12:21 PM   #101 
                                            - Referring to someone as a "truther" is not "name-calling"....  SDuderstadt   Jun-04-09 12:48 PM   #102 
                                            - You are lumping everyone who doesn't believe  JuniperLea   Jun-04-09 03:43 PM   #113 
                                            - delete  BeFree   Feb-15-10 07:10 PM   #143 
                                            - No-planer.. also all over the place ... eom  Marksbrother   Jun-04-09 12:49 PM   #103 
                                            - Jesus Christ....referring to someone who believes no planes crashed on 9/11...  SDuderstadt   Jun-04-09 01:04 PM   #104 
                                            - So, referring to someone as a "fake-planer" isn't  Marksbrother   Jun-04-09 01:28 PM   #105 
                                            - No...  SDuderstadt   Jun-04-09 01:40 PM   #106 
                                            - So, you agree that referring to someone as  Marksbrother   Jun-04-09 02:23 PM   #107 
                                            - So, again...  SDuderstadt   Jun-04-09 02:47 PM   #108 
                                            - Would you be offended if someone referred to you  Marksbrother   Jun-04-09 03:14 PM   #109 
                                            - For the last fucking time, dude...  SDuderstadt   Jun-04-09 03:23 PM   #110 
                                            - Thanks. I'll keep that in mind.  Marksbrother   Jun-04-09 03:27 PM   #111 
                                            - If you want me to be "civil".,..  SDuderstadt   Jun-04-09 03:37 PM   #112 
                                - OCT  Kalun D   May-28-09 08:48 PM   #58 
                                - Straw man...  JuniperLea   Jun-03-09 07:44 PM   #96 
        - So you're saying that there's "no evidence" because DU puts 9/11 info in the dungeon . . .???  defendandprotect   May-31-09 10:54 PM   #79 
           - "Meanwhile, demolition experts were of course consulted and they all agree -- DEMOLITION."  SDuderstadt   May-31-09 10:57 PM   #80 
           - Oh, you mean experts that didn't later have their arms twisted to recant?  JuniperLea   Jun-03-09 07:49 PM   #98 
              - "Romero responds:"  OnTheOtherHand   Jun-03-09 08:09 PM   #99 
           - Interesting analogy.  Marksbrother   Jun-01-09 08:31 AM   #85 
              - It is preposterous . . . and I'll also keep moving that thought along . . .  defendandprotect   Jun-01-09 11:59 AM   #86 
  - It's ain't what you say, it's the way that you say it  anigbrowl   Jun-12-09 08:41 PM   #119 
  - 7 Habits of Highly Successful Conspiracy Deniers  Octafish   Feb-10-10 03:09 PM   #121 
  - Incidently..  KDLarsen   Feb-10-10 05:12 PM   #122 
  - Then why didn't you think of them first?  Octafish   Feb-10-10 08:15 PM   #123 
     - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Feb-11-10 06:21 AM   #124 
        - Hahaha  BeFree   Feb-11-10 09:26 AM   #125 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-11-10 09:34 AM   #126 
           - Bushco was overturned 15 months ago...  KDLarsen   Feb-11-10 09:35 AM   #127 
              - See, that's the difference  BeFree   Feb-11-10 09:56 AM   #128 
              - Yeah, one of these days maybe you'll convince everyone that....  SDuderstadt   Feb-11-10 09:59 AM   #129 
                 - Nah  BeFree   Feb-11-10 10:24 AM   #130 
                    - 100 years ago, people were repeating that very phrase  KDLarsen   Feb-11-10 10:42 AM   #131 
                       - Screw that  BeFree   Feb-11-10 10:54 AM   #133 
                       - Good edit  BeFree   Feb-11-10 11:13 AM   #134 
                          - Sometimes not spelling a word correctly actually results in a word that is not misspelled.  Make7   Feb-12-10 05:44 PM   #140 
              - Who's the Secretary of "Defense"?  JackRiddler   Feb-12-10 11:36 PM   #141 
  - It's called 'dis-information'.  sixstrings75   Feb-11-10 10:45 AM   #132 
     - Simple question...  SDuderstadt   Feb-11-10 11:42 AM   #135 
        - I think you are being facetious...  sixstrings75   Feb-12-10 09:36 AM   #136 
           - No, I'm dead serious...  SDuderstadt   Feb-12-10 09:46 AM   #137 
              - Wow. Just wow. I'm not playing your game dude. n/t  sixstrings75   Feb-12-10 10:38 AM   #138 
                 - No, you're playing your own little game...  SDuderstadt   Feb-12-10 11:51 AM   #139 
                    - Oh  BeFree   Feb-15-10 07:09 PM   #142 
                       - "So, it stands: the majority of the story is straight from bush"  SDuderstadt   Feb-15-10 07:41 PM   #144 
  - I agree with her  vincent_vega_lives   Feb-23-10 08:16 AM   #145 
     - yep  BeFree   Feb-23-10 09:56 AM   #146 
        - a guy told you that just the other day?  zappaman   Feb-23-10 06:47 PM   #147 
        - heh  BeFree   Feb-23-10 08:08 PM   #148 
           - yeah  zappaman   Feb-23-10 08:31 PM   #149 
              - Lying eyes?  BeFree   Feb-23-10 08:52 PM   #150 
        - one's opinion hardly constitutes evidence  vincent_vega_lives   Feb-24-10 07:59 AM   #151 
           - Yeah,  BeFree   Feb-24-10 08:45 AM   #152 
 

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