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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 01:43 PM
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14. Well, the Canadian government seemed to find him somewhat credible.
As did his Canadian jailers.

I'm no Vreeland expert. I've read the "9/11 precog" notes, know his basic story, and a little bit about his court appearances. I've heard his voice message tapes. But I'm no expert.

I doubt he's completely credible. Hell, he could be a disinformation agent, a fraud, mentally ill, or frighteningly prophetic. I just don't know the truth on the guy.

:shrug: It's like many things in life: curious, but inscrutable.
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  -Can someone post a CLEAR explanation of the Vreeland threat? sangh0  Oct-23-04 11:56 AM   #0 
  - Doesn't Vreeland claim Iraq was responsible for 9-11?  prayin4rain   Oct-23-04 12:11 PM   #1 
  - Of course Iraq was NOT responsible for 9/11.  Zhade   Oct-23-04 12:26 PM   #5 
     - Well this is what I found yesterday...  prayin4rain   Oct-23-04 12:33 PM   #6 
        - Well, even if Vreeland were credible (I have no idea if he is)...  Zhade   Oct-23-04 01:25 PM   #7 
        - I agree, they could be fake, he could be fake, the story around him could  prayin4rain   Oct-23-04 01:30 PM   #9 
        - Here are a few people who know WAY more than I do about Vreeland:  Zhade   Oct-23-04 01:39 PM   #11 
           - Thanks!!! I appreciate your responses.  prayin4rain   Oct-23-04 01:41 PM   #13 
           - Hey, no problem. PM one of those guys, they'll be able to tell you a lot.  Zhade   Oct-23-04 01:45 PM   #16 
           - I know Vreeland personally.  God_bush_n_cheney   Oct-24-04 02:42 PM   #69 
              - Do Tell  sufi   Oct-24-04 07:29 PM   #83 
        - Vreeland, Mr. Zhade  The Magistrate   Oct-23-04 01:38 PM   #10 
           - Well, the Canadian government seemed to find him somewhat credible.  Zhade   Oct-23-04 01:43 PM   #14 
           - Not For Long, Sir  The Magistrate   Oct-23-04 04:50 PM   #40 
           - "You can't cheat an honest man." is putting it in the right light.  0007   Oct-23-04 02:07 PM   #19 
        - Doesn't sound like this dude was ever in Moscow.  mzmolly   Oct-23-04 02:06 PM   #18 
        - Self Delete  MagicalSpork   Oct-23-04 02:49 PM   #28 
  - Vreeland was alleged to have known about 9/11 beforehand.  Zhade   Oct-23-04 12:12 PM   #2 
  - He got arrested yesterday.  prayin4rain   Oct-23-04 12:16 PM   #3 
     - Yeah, I read the headline, hadn't read the story yet.  Zhade   Oct-23-04 12:24 PM   #4 
     - Again?  charlie   Oct-23-04 01:29 PM   #8 
     - He was in jail in Ontario, Canada at that point.  nownow   Oct-23-04 01:40 PM   #12 
        - I'm suddenly reminded of the smear against Scott Ritter.  Zhade   Oct-23-04 01:44 PM   #15 
           - Sure -- it's possible this is the case.  nownow   Oct-23-04 02:25 PM   #21 
     - Apparently on  MagicalSpork   Oct-23-04 02:54 PM   #30 
  - From what I've read, I think the guys is a two bit con man ...  mzmolly   Oct-23-04 02:00 PM   #17 
  - what people fail to realize  Minstrel Boy   Oct-23-04 02:14 PM   #20 
  - See? I told you guys Minstrel Boy knows a lot.  Zhade   Oct-23-04 02:27 PM   #22 
  - So what about the Iraq claim?  prayin4rain   Oct-23-04 02:31 PM   #23 
  - some possibilities  Minstrel Boy   Oct-23-04 02:46 PM   #25 
     - Thanks............and creepy.  prayin4rain   Oct-23-04 02:47 PM   #26 
     - And another possibility ...  mzmolly   Oct-23-04 02:48 PM   #27 
  - I read that, and for a moment was taken, however when he was supposed  mzmolly   Oct-23-04 02:46 PM   #24 
     - not true  Minstrel Boy   Oct-23-04 02:58 PM   #31 
        - Check my link please  mzmolly   Oct-23-04 03:08 PM   #32 
        - I know that link  Minstrel Boy   Oct-23-04 03:22 PM   #33 
           - The link involved much research and I feel it proves he lied about  mzmolly   Oct-23-04 03:45 PM   #35 
              - Believe me, after a quiet election, no one would be happier  Minstrel Boy   Oct-23-04 03:51 PM   #38 
              - Peace  mzmolly   Oct-23-04 03:55 PM   #39 
              - I don't think that OJ's lawyers really cared....do you?  liberalnproud   Oct-27-04 05:19 AM   #102 
        - If memory serves me  Karenina   Oct-23-04 03:43 PM   #34 
           - yup. open court.  Minstrel Boy   Oct-23-04 03:48 PM   #37 
              - MB-- do you have a link to this story?  spooked911   Oct-23-04 09:20 PM   #44 
                 - Here's one:  Minstrel Boy   Oct-24-04 11:32 AM   #55 
  - he also  WoodrowFan   Oct-24-04 03:54 PM   #70 
  - Vreebird  MagicalSpork   Oct-23-04 02:50 PM   #29 
  - Thank you  sangh0   Oct-23-04 03:45 PM   #36 
     - Sorry,  MagicalSpork   Oct-23-04 05:54 PM   #41 
     - You want detail?  ParanoidPat   Oct-23-04 10:54 PM   #48 
  - SO NO ONE KNOWS ABOUT THIS???  sangh0   Oct-23-04 09:04 PM   #42 
  - Anyone?  sangh0   Oct-23-04 09:11 PM   #43 
     - Check LBN  seemslikeadream   Oct-23-04 09:22 PM   #45 
        - That's typical of why I don't believe it  sangh0   Oct-23-04 09:26 PM   #46 
           - I could care less if you believe it or not  seemslikeadream   Oct-23-04 09:50 PM   #47 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-24-04 11:07 AM   #49 
                 - Don't blame me for your laziness  seemslikeadream   Oct-24-04 11:16 AM   #50 
                    - So people are going to die, and your answer is "research"  sangh0   Oct-24-04 11:18 AM   #51 
                       - It's already been posted  seemslikeadream   Oct-24-04 11:19 AM   #52 
                          - Where?  sangh0   Oct-24-04 11:22 AM   #53 
                             - I have never said there was a clear explaination because  seemslikeadream   Oct-24-04 11:31 AM   #54 
                             - please read post #48 n/t  Minstrel Boy   Oct-24-04 11:35 AM   #56 
                                - Here  seemslikeadream   Oct-24-04 11:41 AM   #57 
                                - That's your idea of a clear explanation?  sangh0   Oct-24-04 12:19 PM   #58 
                                   - No - in THIS thread.  Minstrel Boy   Oct-24-04 01:05 PM   #60 
                                      - THAT is what needs to be investigated by the media AND the government  seventhson   Oct-24-04 01:36 PM   #65 
                                         - No it doesn't NEED TO BE investigated  sangh0   Oct-24-04 03:59 PM   #71 
                                            - Exactly. It's just like the story of that FBI chicken little who claimed  stickdog   Oct-24-04 06:10 PM   #82 
                                            - I see. One story was true, so ALL stories are true  sangh0   Oct-25-04 11:29 AM   #86 
                                               - No. One story warning about a terrorist strike was not taken seriously,  stickdog   Oct-26-04 12:05 AM   #96 
                                            - Damn! DO NOT INVESTIGATE??? Sounds like the Bush adminstration  seventhson   Oct-24-04 09:31 PM   #84 
                                               - You're VOUCHING for GBNC?? Thanks for the laugh  sangh0   Oct-25-04 11:33 AM   #87 
  - From today's Toronto Star:  Minstrel Boy   Oct-24-04 01:02 PM   #59 
  - Thank you - So basically, the new news  sangh0   Oct-24-04 01:06 PM   #61 
     - Yes - BUT  seventhson   Oct-24-04 01:16 PM   #62 
     - You are distorting the facts  sangh0   Oct-24-04 04:04 PM   #72 
        - They interview Vreeland and ask him the right questions. Then they do the  seventhson   Oct-24-04 09:39 PM   #85 
           - You are not telling the truth  sangh0   Oct-25-04 01:08 PM   #90 
     - We know what Vreeland is claiming  Minstrel Boy   Oct-24-04 01:17 PM   #63 
        - And, we know that at least one DUer claims  seventhson   Oct-24-04 01:32 PM   #64 
        - curious ....  H2O Man   Oct-24-04 01:54 PM   #66 
           - ONI particularly because of Ambassador Leo Wanta.  Minstrel Boy   Oct-24-04 02:35 PM   #68 
           - That doesn't make sense to me  sangh0   Oct-24-04 04:15 PM   #75 
              - Sander Hicks  Minstrel Boy   Oct-24-04 04:22 PM   #77 
                 - That explains a bug chunk  sangh0   Oct-24-04 04:29 PM   #78 
                    - If you can ever read Hick's investigative report on Vreeland  Minstrel Boy   Oct-24-04 05:34 PM   #79 
                    - Thanks. I will look for it  sangh0   Oct-24-04 05:37 PM   #80 
                    - You can only judge someone's credibility from his or her "track record."  stickdog   Oct-24-04 06:05 PM   #81 
                       - SO whats the track record?  sangh0   Oct-25-04 11:37 AM   #88 
                          - Jeex. I guess this is a compliment  seventhson   Oct-25-04 12:19 PM   #89 
                          - You are not telling the truth  sangh0   Oct-25-04 01:11 PM   #91 
                             - I have already said  seventhson   Oct-25-04 01:30 PM   #92 
                                - You are not telling the truth  sangh0   Oct-25-04 02:09 PM   #93 
                                   - You can twist it any way you want, but I stand on my words.  seventhson   Oct-25-04 03:09 PM   #94 
                                      - Which ones?  sangh0   Oct-25-04 04:44 PM   #95 
                          - Q. Who has said that Vreeland is a paragon of credibility? A. Nobody  stickdog   Oct-26-04 12:25 AM   #97 
                             - If he has "impeccable communication skills", why can't he post a summary?  sangh0   Oct-26-04 01:18 PM   #98 
                             - And MB claims there are TWO DU sources for the scare  sangh0   Oct-26-04 01:19 PM   #99 
                                - MB's website LIES about Vreeland's background  sangh0   Oct-26-04 01:21 PM   #100 
                                   - Exactly! He just hacked into their computer from his jail cell!  stickdog   Oct-26-04 06:28 PM   #101 
           - Because he believes anything that fits his preconceptions  sangh0   Oct-24-04 04:07 PM   #73 
              - Why get all David Hume on my ass?  Minstrel Boy   Oct-24-04 04:15 PM   #74 
                 - My apologies  sangh0   Oct-24-04 04:17 PM   #76 
  - Here are past Vreeland threads  seemslikeadream   Oct-24-04 02:16 PM   #67 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-12-04 01:13 AM   #103 
     - NO CHARGES OF CHILD PROSTITUION FOR VREELAND  RisingSun   Nov-12-04 10:20 AM   #104 
        - "I WAS THERE, I ALSO WORKED IN GALATI'S OFFICE  RisingSun   Nov-12-04 03:33 PM   #105 
 

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